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the work that we do helps us protect it. public education is definitely a big part of our job, to teach our customers about the best type of trees to plant around the power lines. we want to keep the power on for our customers. we want to keep our community safe. this is our community, this is where we live. we need to make sure that we have a beautiful place for our children to live. together, we're building a better california. good evening. top of the hour now, the polls have just closed in wisconsin. as you can see, we are waiting to hear from house speaker paul ryan. it is primary night for the highest ranking republican in the nation. we're going to bring you results live as they come in. we begin, though, with the man who was already giving speaker ryan a permanent ulcer with some of the things he's said, donald trump. today he said more. >> hillary wants to abolish essentially abolish the 2nd
amendment. by the way, and if she gets to pick -- if she gets to pick her judges, nothing you can do, folks. although the 2nd amendment people, maybe there is, i don't know. >> there it is. you can judge for yourself whether trump was joking about someone shooting hillary clinton if she becomes president or whether as defenders say he was calling for gun rights supporters to vote in november or whether he's changing the message as clinton supporter senator elizabeth warren put it late today because his campaign is in trouble. "trump" she tweeted, "makes death threats because he's a pathetic coward who can't handle the fact that he's losing to a girl." rhetoric on all sides tonight pretty heated. that's just some of the reaction. donald trump spoke a short time ago in fayetteville, north carolina. cnn's sara murray is there and she joins us now. sara, some of those comments were made in a stop earlier today in wilmington, delaware. there was a whole lot of
-- wilmington, north carolina, sorry. there was a whole lot of reaction after that. just finished up in fayetteville, north carolina. what's the latest? >> reporter: well, that's right, as soon as donald trump made that comment, it immediately raised the eyebrows of many political observers. of course, hillary clinton's campaign seized on it immediately saying this was donald trump promoting violence, clearly taking this as a threat against hillary clinton. now the trump campaign moved faster than usual to try to clean this up. they put out a statement this afternoon clarifying that donald trump was not talking about violence. they said he was just talking about trying to get 2nd amendment supporters to coalesce behind him. they feel like they have a better shot at winning over these voters than hillary clinton will in the fall, john. >> but donald trump himself, he did not address this tonight in fayetteville, did he? >> reporter: this was another interesting twist by donald trump. usually after a controversy like this, you would see him come out on the stump at the later event, we would hear him talk about it, probably hear him slam the media.
we did not hear that on the campaign trail this evening. but he did talk about it in an interview with fox news. take a listen. >> nobody in that room thought anything other than what you just said. this is a political movement. this is a strong powerful movement, the 2nd amendment. you know, hillary wants to take your guns away. she wants to leave you unprotected in your home. this is a tremendous political movement. the nra as you know endorsed me. they're terrific people. wayne and chris and all of the people over there. and by the way, they've already, i just saw, they tweeted out basically they agree 100% with what i said and there can be no other interpretation. even reporters have told me, i mean, give me a break. >> reporter: now, you see trump insisting that this was about political power, it was not about trying to incite violence but, john, the fact he talked about it in this interview but not on the stump here tonight is as good of indication as any that the cam page wants it get rid of this story and move beyond it, try to refocus on some of the issues they were hoping to talk about this week.
>> message control. it is something the trump campaign has wanted to achieve and, of course, yesterday he gave a speech on the economy. that's what they wanted to be talking about this week. >> reporter: absolutely. they were saying they were going to continue to roll out more specifics about his economic plan and one thing that's worth remembering is it's moments like this today that really give republicans and independents heartburn about whether they can get behind donald trump because they feel like they see him saying he's going to stick to a message and it works for a day or so then all of a sudden 24 hours later we're in the middle of the next firestorm. clearly the trump campaign is trying to prove at least today they can put these things to bed and move beyond it. we will see fit works tomorrow. >> sara murray, thanks so much. donald trump's running mate weighing in, speaking to a philadelphia television station. this is what mike pence said when he was asked if he thought trump was inciting violence. >> of course not. no. donald trump is urging people around this country to act in a manner consistent with their convictions in the course of this election, and people who
cherish the 2nd amendment have a very clear choice in this election. >> all right. back now with our panel. joining us this hour, cnn's senior political analyst david gergen. david, you just heard governor mike pence there on the question of whether donald trump was inciting violence. that's an extreme view of what donald trump said. a middle view which is also critical is that he was careless in his words, in talking about violence in a way dealing with presidential candidates and some people think you should never get even close to that line. >> i think careless is being a generous description of what he said. listen, for a great number of years now, what donald trump calls the 2nd amendment people have argued vociferously to keep away gun control restrictions on guns because they think they ought to be able to have their guns. in the event there's a tehran ca t
along comes, candidates, republican candidate like the candidate who ran against out in the west six years ago running against harry reid. said there are -- if harry reids out of control, we have 2nd amendment remedies. what she meant by that is have a right to bear arms. what donald trump said today was not that he was rallying people to vote, that's perfectly legitimate. of course, it is. he said if we lose the vote, there's nothing we can do. if we lose the vote, there's nothing we can do unless maybe it's the 2nd amendment people. this is a dog whistle. most of us know what dog whistles sound like in politics. it's one of the clearest ones we have ever heard. frankly, when other people have engaged in this, jesse helms did this when bill clinton was president. he said if bill clinton comes into our state in north carolina, he ought to bring a bodyguard. within 24 hours he had to say i made a mistake because people jumped all over him. you do not do that with the president of the united states. i worked with two presidents, one of whom almost lost his life, ronald reagan, at the hands of an assassin.
you do not raise the issue in such a way that is open to a reasonable interpretation that you're trying to say if this person gets out of line, we'll take care of them, 2nd amendment folks after they get elected. >> john, donald trump supporter, you heard what david said. he called it a dog whistle. >> well, i'm going to continue to say that this is a very different candidate. i understand what mr. gergen is saying but the reality is donald trump is someone that's speaking to the average american, he's speaking in their language. it's not the political speak that we're used to hearing. it's not political correctness. he's actually moving very much against political correctness. and i think his explanation immediately thereafter and i love the fact that he's not going to address it anymore because it's a ridiculous situation. we need to start focusing on our economy. we need to start focusing on isis and we have to stop nitpicking these little things because we have to choose a commander in chief that's going to be able to get this economy going again, make this military strong again, and make america a true presence in this world.
he's ready to do that. >> i agree with that basic point. i think getting the economy, we talked about this before here, but listen, this is a candidate who began by walling her crooked hillary and basically has been calling her criminal now for some time. this is a candidate who one of the rallying cries he hasn't yet finished is "lock her up." those are the preludes for saying basically dehumanizing somebody, demonizing them and making it possible for some crazy out there and we're talking about crazies. dog whistles go to crazies. and that they may feel well, she's so bad we ought to lock her up, maybe we ought to take care of her all together. and that is the issue that's really out here and it's shameful. it's a shameful statement to be making as nominee for president of the united states. >> the point that john was making last segment that i agree with is that the reason why mr. trump has attracted as many supporters as he has is that he does bring to the race an authenticity, an authenticity
which is welcome in politics and which i think hillary sometimes struggles with and has to do better at and i think she will do a lot better with. but the problem that emerges with mr. trump is that as he becomes more authentic and in his most authentic moments, we see why he is so scary because this moment today, you say that the campaign was hoping that he would talk about the economic speech. i don't think he was hoping that he was talking -- wanted to talk about the economic speech today. i think he talked about exactly what he wanted to talk about today, to get this attention because he is such a narcissist. he loves this attention. he loves sucking up all the air. but when he speaks candidly, he says things like this. sometimes he says well, it's good for turnberry that brexit passed, he goes against the judge and goes against the father. so when we see, when his authenticity emerges with such clarity we see what the man is really like. >> david, i just want to ask you quickly b lly when donald trump
something like this the media often reports it, using his own words, explaining what his own words were, playing his own words. do you think the media is wrong to focus on statements like this as much as we sometimes do? >> no. i think it's one of the major events of the campaign. i think he deserves to stay, he deserved to clarify. people have a right to be -- i think we ought to hear from them, absolutely. but i don't think we should just come out with an equivalence. 50% think this and 50% think that, let's move on to the next story. some things are just wrong. and this is wrong. it is wrong to raise the issue of violence, it's against the law to threaten any federal official, it is against the law. he's coming right up against the edge of the law. >> alice burns, political reporter, you cover campaigns every day. when something like this happen, how difficult is it for you, then, to go back and focus on the estate tax? >> as much as i would like to, it's tricky, john, actually to say what reporters do when something like this happens because something like this never happens. you don't have a presidential
candidates walking as close to the line as trump does certainly on something like this. look, over the last few weeks, really escalating in the democratic convention and since then, you have had a really concerted effort on the part of the clinton campaign but also outside allies aligned against donald trump to cast him as somebody who's an unacceptable candidate, somebody who doesn't belong in public life, let alone the presidency. you had meg whitman, the hewlett-packard ceo, stand by her comments comparing him to hitler. this is extraordinary stuff, extraordinary effort to cast him as somebody who simply does not belong in the election. donald trump when he does something like this, he makes that kind of effort an awful lot easier at a moment when he badly needs to be appealing to people who are skeptical of his campaign. >> christine, corey lewandowski, 30 seconds each. >> john, this is what american people, this is clear speaking to them, somehow implying they don't understand other type of language is not true and american people are smart. the american people don't want
their leaders talking or implying or leaning toward violence. they've seen too much violence in this country. they don't want anymore of it which is why the vast majority of gun owners support the type of legislation secretary clinton does. >> korly, last word? >> i don't think any gun owners in the country support hillary clinton. donald trump is endorsed by the nra, the earliest endorsement they ever made before he was the actual republican nominee. what we're not talking about right now, policies of the clinton administration which have gotten people killed in benghazi. we're not talking about the families suing hillary clinton for the failed policies because their children were killed in benghazi. want to talk about gun violence, that's the gun violence we should be talking about today. >> again, alex, the reason we're not talking about that tonight is? >> this is a classic position heal thyself. to say get back on track with the economy, maybe if trump stuck to the script we would be. we're going to come back and talk about a lot of things including perhaps the economy after the break. we're also going to talk about the way donald trump gets his ideas across. many people are saying things about the way he keeps on saying
"you don't want to live with mom and dad forever, do you?" "well...i'm not changing." "how do i check my credit score?" "credit karma. don't worry, it's free." "credit karma. give yourself some credit." as we wait to learn paul ryan's fate in his primary we are talking about the latest thing donald trump is saying, saying, we should add with memory still fresh from the last thing he said. his suggestion, his insinuation that an iranian nuclear scientist who helped the u.s. may have been executed because of hillary clinton's e-mail issues. it came in a tweet and many people are saying it revealed a lot about how donald trump operates. more on that from cnn's chief political correspondent dana bash. >> reporter: it has long been a staple of trump-speak. >> some people have been saying that. a lot of people are saying that. half the people in this room are saying it. some people. i don't know. >> reporter: then this tweet.
"many people are saying that the iranians killed the scientist who helped the u.s. because of hillary clinton's hacked e-mails." that harsh allegation using only "many people are saying" as his proof has turned the catchphrase into an instant internet sensation. #manypeoplearesaying hash tag went viral becoming a forum to mock trump. hillary clinton spokesman nick merrill saying a unicorn is housed in a cage atop trump tower. the band, spoon, many people are saying our next album will heal the sick and end all war. it's just what many people are saying. beneath the sarcasm is a serious question. why does trump send conspiracy theories into the ether with only a version of many people are saying to back it up? >> is he a natural-born citizen? some people -- i don't know. >> reporter: sometimes it's about knocking an opponent off message like during the primaries and trump questioned
canadian-born ted cruz's eligibility to be president. >> a lot of people think you have to be born here. you have to be born on this land. >> reporter: cruz, who was then gaining on trump in iowa, denounced trump's allegation. >> the legal issue is straightforward. the son of a u.s. citizen born abroad is a natural born citizen. >> reporter: other times it appears trump uses it to change the subject when he's getting bad press. trump's monday afternoon tweet connecting clinton to an executed iranian scientist came little more than an hour after "the new york times" first reported about a letter signed by 50 gop national security experts warning trump would be a dangerous commander in chief. >> lot of people are very skeptical as to what happened and how he died. >> reporter: when trump started focusing on clinton after he locked up the gop nomination, he used his "some people say" phrase to road test conspiracy theories from the 1990s like questioning whether clinton aide and friend vince foster really committed suicide. trump telling "washington post" "there are people who wont continue to bring it up because
they think it was absolutely a murder. i don't do that because i don't think it's fair. beyond why trump does this, the question is, do these people exist and if so, who are they? one source familiar with how trump operates tells cnn sometimes those people are some of trump's 10.8 million twitter followers, many of whom constantly send him ideas and suggestions. remember this trump m.o. worked for him in the gop primaries and even before he ran in 2011, seizing on the obama birther movement. >> a lot of these birthers are really quality people that just want the truth. >> reporter: still, scroll through trump's twitter feed and you realize he's relied on the phrase for years, even to promote his businesses. "many people have commented that my fragrance, success, is the best scent and lasts the longest. try it and let me know what you think." dana bash, cnn, washington. >> it is a great fragrance. all right. let's talk about it. david gergen is here, cory lewandowski is back and joining
us, "washington post's" josh rogen, reporting on the iran treat and is also a cnn analyst for us. corey lewandowski, let me ask you this. should the bar for a presidential candidate be higher than many people are saying, because, and i say this partly in jest, but many people are saying the moon landing was faked, many people are saying big foot roams the pacific northwest. >> i think what you have with donald trump is he has advice and counsel from a lot of people and he gets advice and counsel from a lot of people as opposed to individually naming those people, saying i spoke to general flynn or admiral -- whoever that may be, he uses the term as a catch-all. many people have told me this. that's where he receives a lot of that information. so what happens is as opposed to individually naming each person he's talking to about a specific issue, he uses a general term. that's not uncommon. it happens all the time. i've worked for multiple elected officials who would tell me that three people in their district had told them something was going to occur. now, whether or not those three people actually existed for that
particular elected official, may be up for debate. >> it is often in donald trump's case tied to a questionable or controversial theory. i use that word loosely. david gergen, you briefed for many different places including from inside the white house. would you get away with a phrase like that? "many people are saying"? >> not for very long. you may get away with it for awhile. donald trump's a very clever man. i think we ought to say that up front. he's discovered ways to talk to the american people that have eluded most political figures. so there are a lot of things about him, you have to say leek look, that's worked. but in his cleverness he's found a rhetorical trick, to be able to introduce something saying i'm not saying this, i'm not the one putting this out there, other people are putting it out there. now let me tell you something really scurrilous about hillary clinton or let me tell you something about barack obama, where he was born. you play into conspiracy theories but you have deniability, oh, i didn't say it. i would never say that. of course. many people think. but i can tell you, people start
using it on him, people start saying, hillary starts saying, many people say donald trump is a serial con man, many people say donald trump hasn't read a serious book in 25 years, many people think that donald trump is certifiably crazy. many people are saying that but there's no hard evidence to support those. >> josh rogen, you who are an expert on twitter and social media, you know in this world of social media, you can say things that get picked up and get an awful lot of mileage. so in a way, the way donald trump speaks and the where he's doing it only add to each other. >> right. mark twain said a lie travels halfway around the world before the truth can get its boots on. he didn't even know about twitter when he wrote that. i mean, you know, the bottom line -- >> as far as you know. many people say. never mind. >> the point here is not that where donald trump is getting the information. the point is that it's wrong and he doesn't seem to have the basic curiosity or rigor of
thought to determine that it's wrong before he perpetuates these things. i don't know if cory's right and he actually believes these things or is just so irresponsible he doesn't check them before he perpetuates them or if he's intentionally misleading his millions of followers in order to create attacks on his political enemies. either way it's a really bad practice, okay? it's a pattern and it's an intentional pattern of sort of taking these conspiracy theories or rumors, you know, giving them enough oxygen then pointing to that oxygen as confirmation. it's by its nature deceptive and creates a pakistanization of the media where every sort of crazy theory has enough life to last forever and no one can really unwind any of his conspiracies. >> you know, cory, what is the process when there is a discussion inside the campaign, how does something get from donald trump's head to a twitter account? >> i think i can only tell you when i was there the way the campaign functioned. mr. trump has the ability to
view his own twitter account. he's got 10.8 million followers on twitter. if you look at the totality of his facebook page, social media account, 20 million people he interacts with directly by bypassing the mainstream media. to go to them directly. he looks at his twitter feed, looks at the people that are posting. you have seen many times where there are very relevant stories that are on those twitter accounts, whether it's the a.p., "washington post," "wall street journal" or many other credible news sources he will retweet or repost. that happens on a regular basis. so not only does he have access obviously to look at his twitter feed and post to that directly, he will also assign a staffer a specific task of posting certain things to his twitter feed if he deems it appropriate. >> david? >> i will just tell you this. you get any college professor who has a paper that comes in and cites social media as a source of facts is going to get flunked like that. it is not a reliable source of information. it is not double-checked. that's the whole point of journalism.
if journalism were like social media, we'd have been out of business a long time ago. but the fact is there's more expected. i will just tell you, there was a time in richard nixon's white house i ran the research team for speech writing for a while. before he went out, we had a "time" magazine method of checking. every single word had to be checked for veracity. every single word. you had to put a little checkmark on every single word before a statement would go out. this is richard nixon, not the most truthful guy we ever had in the white house. >> in this age of information, the information is instantaneous. you have the opportunity to directly bypass the media and if you want to put something out to your supporters, look, i know the media has a twitter feed that follows donald trump and every time he tweets something, they're alerted to it differently. >> josh, quick last word? >> cory is totally missing the point. it's not a twitter problem. okay? it's an honesty problem. okay? the fact that he's putting out these facts that are easily refutable and doesn't seem to care when they are refuted and doesn't apologize is a terrible indicator of what he would be
like as president. if he's getting information from unreliable sources, failing to check it and failing to even bother to acknowledge it when it's wrong, that's a problem for his credibility, okay? that's the problem we face if donald trump were to actually be elected president. >> all right, i goes. stick around. coming up next, we're going to talk about hillary clinton and what many people talk was a serious stumble by her campaign. i just said "many people believe." plus, we're going to head to wi wrisconsin where paul ryan's re-election bid has landed in the spotlight courtesy of donald trump. we're going to get the latest results from today's voting. that's next. defeating malaria. improving energy efficiency. developing more clean burning natural gas. my job? my job at exxonmobil? turning algae into biofuels. reducing energy poverty in the developing world. making cars go further with less. fueling the global economy. and you thought we just made the gas. ♪
all right. numbers just starting to trickle in in wisconsin with paul ryan's bid for re-election. we'll bring you those results as they come in. first we will speak about hillary clinton, her battle her campaign says to turn red states blue and also what seems to be a big mistake her campaign made. jeff zeleny has the latest from the clinton campaign trail. >> reporter: hillary clinton is casting a wider net tonight. >> thank you for the work you do every day. >> reporter: searching for new republican supporters and newly competitive red states, possibly up for grabs in the wake of donald trump.
the clinton campaign's concerted effort to recruit some of the republicans peeling off trump is paying off. at least in small ways. two prominent republican environmentalists who ran the epa during the nixon, reagan and george h.w. bush administrations, announced their support today for clinton. they said trump has shown a profound ignorance of science, particularly on climate change. yet not all republicans coming out against trump are turning toward clinton. including republican senator susan collins of maine. >> i have a lot of concerns about hillary clinton and i am not going to support her. >> reporter: cnn has learned the clinton campaign is also eyeing new investments in georgia and arizona, exploring whether trump's challenges have created a realistic opening in republican territory. those are two red states with a high share of hispanic and black voters. democrats believe they can flip. it's a delicate dance for clinton.
in florida today, blasting gop congressional leaders for not signing off on zika funding. >> get a bill passed. get a bill that is focused on combatting zika passed. >> reporter: while in south florida, clinton also visited ousted dnc chair, debbie wasserman-schultz. >> please do everything you can to make sure debbie has a resounding victory on august 30th. >> reporter: she's fighting for her seat in congress in a primary this month. it's one of the remaining wars in the democratic family feud. bernie sanders is supporting wasserman-schultz's rival. >> after you take a few days off, we got to get back to work for november. right? >> reporter: all this as clinton's rally monday night outside orlando focusing on trump -- >> he wants to roll back regulations on wall street. >> reporter: -- suddenly overshadowed by another man. the father of the pulse nightclub shooter was sitting just behind clinton, watching as she talked about the nation's
deadliest mass shooting, killing 49 people in june. >> i know how many people, family members, loved ones and friends, are still grieving. >> reporter: he told cnn affiliate wptv he's a democrat and wanted to attend the rally. the clinton campaign said it did not know he was in the audience or selected to be onstage. >> why they shouldn't be surprised, i love the united states and i have been living here for a long time. >> reporter: he said he supports clinton. >> clinton is good for united states versus donald trump. >> all right. jeff zeleny joins us right now. jeff, what's the clinton campaign saying about this man's presence at the rally? >> john, they're saying once again they had no idea he was in the room, that it was a rally of some 3,000 people and they simply didn't know he was in attendance until after the fact. until after he was spur viewed. john, i was at this rally last night outside orlando as we have
been to hundreds of rallies over the course of the last year or so. and i will tell you some campaigns do set up people directly behind the speaker. you know that just as well as i do from covering campaigns. but in other times, they often rush to fill the majority of them in a more haphazard way. people stand in line for a long time, so i am often surprised that these events even come together as they do. it's very chaotic as opposed to being planned from an official white house event. the reality is here, it was not a smooth operation. he should not have been in her line of sight. the clinton campaign is aware of that. they know that. they know they will likely have to disavow his support for her because of the comments that he has made. now they are trying to not add fuel to this faire here, john, but there's no way this controversy will go away or it's unlikely it will go away until they make that step. we'll see if that happens in the coming days. >> jeff zeleny, thanks. we do have breaking news now for
you in wisconsin in the primary race for speaker of the house, paul ryan. we're joined now from janesville, wisconsin. manu, tell us what happened. >> reporter: well, looks like that paul ryan will be the victor of this primary against paul neland who's a political novice, someone who really was seen as a major underdog here. if he had won this race, it would be one of the biggest upsets of the century, maybe even the past two centuries. this race got into the national spotlight last week when donald trump said that he was not going to endorse paul ryan initially. and, of course, a few days later turned around and said actually he was going to endorse paul ryan. that didn't amount to much it appears like in this race. one reason why, in the april presidential primary, ted cruz took this district and won it pretty overwhelmingly. this is not necessarily donald trump country. when donald trump actually starts to compete here in wisconsin, expect him to spend a
lot of time in southern wisconsin. that's where actually mike pence is going to be later this week as well. but paul ryan and his campaign sort of viewed that flap back and forth with donald trump as nothing more than a distraction. paul nailen was never able to get much traction in this race. even as he tried to align himself with donald trump and go after paul ryan on the issues of immigration and trade issues, where paul ryan has differed with donald trump over. but now that this primary is over, it looks like paul ryan's going to win and win by a pretty healthy margin. expect him to hit the road, do a lot of campaigning for house republicans, raising money, trying to save house republican majority that could be increasingly at risk if donald trump's standing in the polls continues to decline. john? >> all right. any word on the margin right now? we're still waiting? too early to tell? >> reporter: we're still waiting. numbers are still coming in. but it appears it's going to be a pretty big victory and just in a few moments, paul ryan will be talking to reporters here.
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primary voters in house speaker paul ryan's district have just delivered him a pretty big victory. we are expecting to hear from the speaker shortly. back now with the panel. let's talk about this a little bit. alex burns, how did we get here? where paul ryan's re-election battle became a question mark, or was it never really a question mark but it was just a strange thing? >> based on the margins we're seeing right now it doesn't really seem like it was ever really in doubt that he would prevail. i think we still all have this eric cantor hangover that he was not supposed to lose his primary, he ended up losing by a pretty decisive margin. so you do have to approach these things with caution, but paul ryan is a guy who has, despite his climb up the national chain, always been pretty attenitive t his district and always stayed himself, his own views and policy he's advancing close to
the mainstream conservative wisconsin tradition. so there's not a ton of room for somebody to outflank him on the right with the voters who actually live in his district. >> you can't outflank him at home. he went home all the time. cory lewandowski, given that it appears that paul ryan won big, was this whole donald trump thing worth it, where he says i'm not ready to endorse and ultimately he did? was it worth that song and dance from donald trump? >> what i think is you have donald trump and paul ryan continuing to understand what their relationship's going to be like if donald trump is elected president and the way they will work together. while they have sot fundamental -- >> if that's the case, it's going to be complicated. >> there are fundamental differences. particularly have a major difference when it comes to tpp and the trade issue. that's something they need to work through if donald trump will be elected president to work with the speaker of the house. other than that they have a great relationship. they met on multiple occasions. they agree on more things than they disagree with. this is a good night for donald trump. >> tell me the margins right
now. >> 28 pk i% in, ryan is leading 70%. what does that mean? it's 90/20? he's up by 70%. david gergen, what does this do for paul ryan going forward in his relationship with donald trump? >> well, i think it has two significant implications. one is relationship with donald trump, i think this last -- this dust-up between them is going to leave him less enthusiastic obviously about going out and campaigning for trump, but i also think paul ryan is a realist and knows it's really, really important if he wants to preserve the house majority that trump either win or not lose by very much. if trump loses by ten points, the house probably goes to the democrats. so he's got a self-interest in working with trump. i think the other issue, though, with this spotlight on paul ryan, i think he's now safe and he clearly is going to be, if trump were to lose, he's going to be either the singlie most, one of the three or four most important republicans in the country to put the party back together. i think this gives him a safe base from which to do that. >> 85/15, i'm hearing. 85/15.
pretty good win, john. you've been involved in some elections. you would take that. but it does, does it empower paul ryan going forward to say look, there was this issue, paul nehlen, the guy who ran against me, was supportive of donald trump, tried to run under the trump banner and i just crushed him. >> well, i never had an 85/15 win so i know he's a happy man right now but i don't think he's going to be the type of person that's going to harp on the past. he's going to look forward, like david gergen says. we have to maintain the house of representatives. we have to maintain the united states senate. it's going to be important that we work together on the issues that we have in common. that's what he's going to focus on. that is what his mission is right now. and he's a pretty smart guy. he knows the deal. he came out and said are you going to endorse donald trump, not quite there yet. donald trump gave it back to him a little bit. paul ryan's a pretty regular guy, too. the guy playing the guitar, remember, running for vice president. he gets this. he's a great leader. he's going to do an awesome job
as our speaker, continuing into the next house. >> i think the republicans are playing a game here, right, because i think no one who knows paul ryan really believes he wants donald trump to be president, but he's in an extremely difficult position. i mean, but he also has an upside as david says either way. if donald trump loses, he becomes the most important republican in the country or at least one of the most important republicans in the country but he can't lose by too much because if he loses by too much, paul ryan could lose control of the house. >> john was talking about again, recreationist history here. that interchange between donald trump and paul ryan, paul ryan and donald trump, earlier in the campaign when paul ryan said he wasn't there yet, that's not what we're talks about right now. we're talking about him endorsing trump, trump having him open the republican national convention and then seemingly out of nowhere recently, donald trump saying i don't know, i don't like him anymore, used to
like him, i don't like him and i may not going to be with him, then again republicans piling on donald trump and him for five seconds behaving and endorsing paul ryan. what it shows is again, what we are talking about is a lack of unity in the republican party driven by trump's inability to stay on message or behave in a presidential way. it keeps the conversation on how he's unfit to be president. >> we're not saying black lives matter, either. >> hang on. hang on. >> alex burns, 20 seconds left. >> i do think, john, as we go forward, i think corey's right, we are figuring out the balance in the trump and ryan relationship. i think you will see a shift toward ryan as the election comes closer. if trump stays back in the polls, it's going to be ryan who republicans are looking to for signals as to how they ought to run their campaign and ryan's district just gave them a big vote of confidence to keep doing what he wants to do. >> thank you very much. paul ryan does not want hillary clinton to be the next president of the united states. i can tell you that. thank you, everyone. we're all right. up next, more people infected with the zika virus
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talking about amusement park safety, after two horrible accidents. >> i've got three kits that have fell from the farris wheel. >> reporter: monday, three girls fell about 45 meet from a ride in tennessee. one of them severely injured. >> one fell, bounced off. another one fell, hitting the concrete. >> reporter: and just one day earlier, 10-year-old caleb schwab died from a neck injury after riding this 168-foot tall water slide in kansas city, kansas. a foot taller than niagara falls, it's dubbed the world's largest water slide. >> there is very little federal oversight or regulations. they're not required to report their injuries. and pump of this is handled at the state and local level. >> reporter: there are more than 400 amusement parks in the united states, attracting more than 330 million visitors per year.
no federal agency is responsible for oversight. it's up to the states to regulate, and some are more strict than others. but the trade group that represents amusement parks tells cnn "serious incidents are extremely rare." the most recent data from 2014 shows of the millions of visitors to amusement parks in the u.s., there were more than 1100 reported injuries. but that number does not account for water parks or traveling parks like the farris wheel incident in tennessee. that data is harder to come by. it also doesn't account for close calls like this. a texas father forced to hold his 6-year-old son mid ride after the safety restraint came loose. and fatal incidents like the woman who fell out of a roller coaster and plummeted to her
death in texas in 2013. >> she goes up like this and it just releases and she tumbled. >> reporter: all raise questions about why there isn't one standard to ensure the millions of riders are safe. >> they're expecting to have a safe ride. we need to make shower that all of the work on the design, maintenance, overnight and inspection is done so there is a safe ride for everyone. >> reporter: there is some federal oversight for temporary fairs and carnivals, but legislation was revised preventing the federal government from regulate water parks and amusement parks. they've been trying since 1999 to restore federal oversight but it hasn't happened. >> authorities in tennessee say mechanical failure caused the
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time now for cnn tonight with don lemon. this is a new campaign low for donald trump? breaking news. did trump threaten violence against hillary clinton by saying this -- >> if she gets to pick her judges, nothing you can do, folks. although the second amendment people, maybe there is, i don't know. >> but his campaign manager says that's a dangerous suggestion of violence. but trump's campaign says it simply means that supporters of the second amendment will vote in record numbers for trump in november. we're going to begin with breaking news. house speaker paul ryan easily won his gop primary, defeating his challenger. this despite the controversy over donald trump who withheld his support but then endorsed him.