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we begin the hour with a donald trump story no one expected. a man with suction cups and climbing gear may knowing his way up the trump tower which also happens to be the trump home. this played out for about three hours with the elite severances unit, removing windows, cutting you this grill work. positioning themselves to take action. when the right moment came, it all happened very, very quickly. you can see the officers dragging him in very quickly. from there he was taken to bellevue hospital for psychiatric evaluation. donald trump was not home at the time. he was on the campaign trail the day after controversial remarks
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about second amendment people stopping hillary clinton if she is elected president. speaking in sunrise, floored, donald trump had plenty to say about her as well as sharp words. headline making words, perhaps, for president obama. isis is honoring president obama. he is the founder of isis. okay? he founded isis. and i would say, the co-founder would be crooked hillary clinton. that was donald trump just moments ago. jim acosta is at the event. he joins us now. donald trump on the war path. no shrinking violet. he is tossing out the red meat of this crowd in sunrise,
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florida. we heard donald trump address that controversy with the comments on the second amendment. he blasted the media in the way they've covered the story saying that coverage was disgusting. >> offering no apologies for a super heated rhetoric, donald trump tried to make the case that it is hillary clinton who can't get words right. she said it was a mistake. that she is going to raise taxes on the middle class. you saw that one? maybe she misspoke. we have to give them a break. >> one day after he said activists could do something if hillary clinton were elected, trump is pushing back on any notion of it. >> if she gets to pick -- if she gets to pick her judges, nothing you can do, folks. although the second amendment people, maybe there is, i don't
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know. >> trump and his baggers are scrambling. trump insists he was touting the power of the second amendment supporters. >> there can be no other interpretation. even reporters have told me. >> the house speaker thought he was kidding. >> it sounds like a joke gone bad. i hope he cheers it up quickly. >> blood coming out of her wherever. >> with you they fear it will soon find its way into another gop campaign ad using his words against him. cleanse was already looking to take advantage of it during a campaign stop in iowa. >> we had we witnessed the latest in a long line of casual comments from donald trump that crossed the line. his casual cruelty to a gold star family. his casual suggestion that more countries should have nuclear weapons. and now his casual inciting of
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violence. >> that was hillary clinton today. jim acosta, as far as donald trump, as you said, feeding red meat to the crowd there. how did the crowd react? >> well, they seem to be enjoying every minute of it. they like this version of trump. a little earlier he was a bit more low energy to borrow one of his expressions. when donald trump was talking about the coverage of those second amendment comments, the crowd here and i have not heard the. was channelling, lock them up. er as in us, the media. you just called donald trump low energy. what do you expect? >> let's bring back the panel. donald trump called president
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obama the founder of isis. >> well, by not leaving a force in iraq, invading libya, allowing to it grow to 40,000 strong. in that sense he is. i think in this case, this accusation is far more accurate. >> isis was al qaeda in iraq. before barack obama was president. at the action barr al baghdadi is the founder of iraq. the risk here is the way the whole rhetoric of this campaign is deteriorating. led by mr. trump. you're joking about it now when the crowd is chanting, lock them up. it is obvious he is putting on a
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show. it is feeding something in him. we don't know. but it is crazy. where the rhetoric of this campaign, not where it is headed. it is where it already is. he suggested they could take arms into their own hands. if they didn't like the result. so it's clear what he said. >> it is not clear what he said. when this is a discussion about, you're a liar. it is only that insulting your possibly. you can't really have a discussion about the issues that are important. this is an election in which we'll decide the future direction of our country. and it is completely taken out of context. >> let's listen to what you just said. this is why the crowd yelled lock them up. when you say donald trump said, he suggested second amendment folks take arms up, he never
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said that. and liberal world, he said that. in the real world, he did not say that. >> once again -- >> wait a minute, wait a minute. >> i'm a liberal but i think that's hilarious. >> because, listen. >> it is not just that one comment. we don't have to argue about that. you're a lawyer. you understand this. that's an easy one. >> you're a lawyer. you understand logic. >> so i think people can take from it what they want. but it's -- >> you can't change his words. >> the entire pattern i'm talking about. i think it is the entire pattern of the way he wants to conduct this campaign. as if writ a las vegas show. that's what will really be troubling. >> look, the parts about obama and isis are legitimate points of discussion.
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however, encouraging people to say lock up the media is very disturbing. and it is not the first time that he's used the media as part of his sounding board ask trying to demonize the media. this is the same person who said he wanted to loosen up libel laws so they can sue the media. that's a first amendment right. i'm sure someone with authoritarian tendencies would like. to address the the idea of me being a liberal. which is the fourth time you've fried tactic and i think it is hilarious and pathetic. if you have a resume like mine, you would know what a conservative was. and if you were a conservative, you wouldn't be supporting donald trump will as a liberal, that means you give money to someone like hillary clinton. pelosi moes, chuck schumer. liberals. that's what donald trump did. a liberal is someone who is pro-choice. supportive of donald trump. a liberal is someone who goes around and does things that donald trump has done his entire
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life like register as one which i have never done. so stop with it the liberal stuff. everyone who doesn't support donald trump is not a liberal. >> i know you're very sensitive about your conservative credentials. >> i'm not sensitive about it. be accurate. >> i know you didn't go to law school. talking about opening libel laws. that's something that justice thsh scalia did. >> you have to allow me to respond. >> hang on. >> he was for opening libel laws. >> not in the context -- >> we'll do this. we'll turn this back. we'll turn this back. >> i think we need to separate them. >> we'll turn this back to donald trump and what he said in the campaign. back to the statements that trump made.
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again, i think al baghdadi may have something to say about it. the argument he's making is that president obama is weak on isis. so there's that. the level of the rhetoric here when statements like that are made. does it change the framework for the entire campaign? >> yes, absolutely. we just saw a great example of why what trump said was beyond what we normally see. he could have said, and he has in the past said that he thinks barack obama did a bad job on foreign policy. it is to trump's benefit to talk about foreign policy. he doesn't to have say barack obama was the founder of isis. he said it pretty clearly because the audience loved it. he kept saying it. and that's part of the challenge his campaign has. donald trump likes that reinforcement. he takes it to the hyperbolic
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extreme. then we get to lock up hillary clinton. the problem is, once you extend to that hyperbolic point, it is very hard to reel it back this and say, wait, hillary clinton shouldn't actually go to jail because she is running against me in a political campaign. once he keeps doing this thing, he keeps going to that extreme. it is very hard for the support here's are very, very enthusiastic about him to understand that is not, that is not an appropriate way to go. >> hang on. we'll take a quick break and maybe a cease fire here. next we'll focus on hillary clinton. the allegations of the big donors to the clinton foundation paying for access. and yes, there are newly released e-mails. then later, the nominees' growing problem with some in the republican party. how he is handling one big name after another saying they don't want anything to do with him. dr. scholl's massaging gel work insoles absorb
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once again, both donald trump and hillary clinton face questions that go straight to their respective weak points. donald trump on temperament. hillary clinton on her honesty and the notion of fair or not that she plays by a different set of rules than the rest us. the latest chapter is the e-mails. allegations of big donors paying for jobs and access. the haste from joe johns. >> tonight, hillary clinton facing more controversy as newly released e-mails from her tenure as secretary of state, raised
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questions about the clinton foundation. a nonprofit organization founded by the former president seeking favors from the state department. the e-mails obtained by the watch dog judicial watch included officials lobbying hillary clinton's state department aides and advisers to higher their associates. the clinton campaign responded that the e-mails are irrelevant, saying neither of these e-mails involved the sector relate to the foundation's work. the e-mails once again raising questions about clinton's decision making and trustworthiness while clinton continues to stumble over the issue on the campaign trail. i may have short-circuited. for that i will try to clarify. >> the issues, citing them as evidence that clinton is corrupt. >> this is big stuff. pay for play. it is illegal. illegal. we'll see what happens with it. it is very serious stuff.
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>> controversy comes amid poll numbers that shows clinton beating trump nationally, 50 to 44%. and clinton ahead of trump in key battle ground states. besting him in ohio and pennsylvania. the two locked in a virtual tie in florida. clinton is also on top in blue collar wisconsin. 46% to 36%. vying for another battle ground state. >> you can build it in america. and i am determined that we'll build more and we'll be able to create more businesses and more jobs by doing so. >> clinton continues to add bipartisan support to her campaign, add go to the growing list of republican endorsements, long time ambassador and former director of national intelligence john negroponte and carlos gutierrez, the latest to throw their support behind
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clinton. >> joe, what is the clinton campaign saying today about the e-mail story? >> well, these e-mails raise a couple of questions. one about former clinton staffer, trying to get a job. also about a billionaire toner trying on get access to an ambassador. there was no access or at least there was no meeting. the clinton campaign is pushing back on the notion that there was something illegal going on here. perhaps a quid proceed quo. they're also pushing back. they put out a statement calling it a right wing organization that has been attacking the organization since the 1990s, accusing them of mischaracterizing the documents and saying, the fact remains that hillary clinton never took action as secretary of state because of donations to the clinton foundation. so this is an issue that may continue to dog her.
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the e-mail issue has troubled her throughout the primaries and it looks like this is one more development in that long running story. >> all right. joe johns. donald trump wasted no time pouncing on the release of these e-mails and raised questions that the relationship between clinton foundation and the state department. joining me now, the former adviser for presidents david gergen and gloria borger. donald trump says this is a pay to may between clinton foundation and the state department. you have called it a blind spot for how the clintons do business. what do you mean? >> well, i think that they, you know, they keep pledging to do things in a very ethical way. hillary clinton pledged back in 2009 there would be no overslap between the foundation, the clinton foundation and the state department while she was secretary. there would be walls. and they never built those
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walls. so if there is pay for play, they didn't get much play out of it. these are common practices in all of politics that people do favors for each other. that's the way the system works. especially for donors. even so, having pledged to do that. you would have thought they would have an ethics officer set up. everybody would know the guidelines and they wouldn't find themselves seven years later in this controversy as she is running for president. >> for you this gets to the issue that many people believe the clintons have rules and then there are rules that everyone else has to abide by. >> right. 60% of the american public don't trust her because they believe after decades in the public eye, that the clintons do have a different set of rules. in this case you have the fbi director declining to prosecute,
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i might add, over her e-mails but saying she was extremely careless and then you have hillary defending herself that she never passed on classified information. now you have this batch. while it is saying that hillary clinton never took any action to benefit donors of the clinton foundation, you do have these e-mails which suggest that somebody was trying to do that. will this make that number even lower? could it go lower? >> sure. it could go lower.
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>> the good part for her is that voters don't trust trump either. >> yeah. i think she is lucky that that e-mail story broke in the middle of this controversy. >> all of this points out why the american public doesn't leak either of these candidates particularly. >> i agree with that. is the drip, drip, drip that seems to plague her campaign. gloria borger, thank you so much. a growing list of republicans from the elders of the party, the congress members and foreign policy experts. they're abandoning the trump
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senators, congressmen, ceos, some of the most well known members of the republican party. a big group that is growing all the time. informal coalition that has one thing in common that's not backing donald trump. in many cases, they say they're not even voting for him. jessica schneider reports. >> the denouncements of donald trump from his fellow republicans growing louder by the hour. >> trump is too racist and too bigoted for the land of lincoln. >> he lacks the temperament, the judgment, the self-restraint to be our president. >> a trump presidency would really harm our nation. >> the drop in support and the all-out flip in party loyalty began even before trump secured the nomination. >> there is plenty of evidence that mr. trump is a conman, a fake. >> romt romney pleaded with republicans to thwart trump's rise. after the primary, romney said he wouldn't rule out voting for gary johnson. the libertarian candidate.
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prompting people to write in a presidential candidate. >> i'll be writing in general colin powell. >> i am probably going to end up writing in the name of someone. >> senator susan collins said her writing could be george w. bush's secretary of state condoleezza rice or jeb bush who last spoke out about the state of the race on may 6. writing in november, i will not vote for donald trump or hillary clinton. but i will support principled conservatives at the state and federal level just as i have done my entire high of. the former first lady barbara bush expressing her dismay with trump in february. >> he has said terrible things about women. terrible things about military. i don't understand why people are for him for that reason. >> hillary clinton's campaign now seizing on those defections, citing nearly 50 endorsements from cabinet secretaries, current and former members of
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congress and business leaders. people like hewlett-packard meg whitman and chris shays. >> she's going to make government work again which is something i think some republicans don't want. >> all while trump's primary opponents give vague hints about how they will or won't cast their ballots. >> vote for candidates up and down the ticket who you trust to defend our freedom. to be faithful to the constitution. >> i wish that i could be fully enthusiastic. i can't be. >> leaving open the chance even more republicans willment on not to vote for their own nominee come election day. cnn new york. so we said this campaign cannot get any more surprising. we spoke too soon. donald trump speaking in sunrise, florida, had this to say about the people sitting behind him and the people sitting behind hillary clinton.
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you think you have the best location and do you in one way. the people behind me, they'll be famous. they'll be famous. they're going to be famous. by the way, speaking of that, was not it terrible, when the father of the animal that killed the wonderful people in orlando sitting with a big smile on his face behind hillary clinton. how many of you know me? a lot of you know me. when you get those seats, you sort of know the campaign. he knew. they knew. >> now we want to point out, speaking of the people behind him. a guy sitting behind donald trump in the blue blazer there is former congressman mark foaley. now, foley you'll remember
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resigned ten years ago dogged by allegations that he sent sexually explicit e-mails to teenage boys who were working at congressional pages. sitting behind donald trump tonight. now back with our panel. with the "washington post," i don't even know where to begin. what to make of this. donald trump in his speech was talking about people sitting behind him at rallies. and i was reading an article behind with quotes from mark foley about why he was excited to be at that event. an odd picture to have him behind donald trump. >> one would think that donald trump would either fully vet the people behind him for the next 48 hours or so, or not draw attention to it. there is clearly a distinction between father of a terrorist and murdered exnumber of people and a guy under disgrace a while ago. but donald trump likes to make his points. he likes to have the people angry about hillary clinton. he likes to rif off the cuff.
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this is another example where it didn't work out. >> mark foley who left congress in disgraceful a lot of people think that was a tipping point for congress losing in 2006. is he the guy you want behind you at any political event? >> i would not have chosen him. >> okay. we'll leave it there. it gets to, you've worked in politics. we were talking about it yesterday. how can both campaigns let the happen in one week? >> yeah. it was clearly, a ball was dropped. whoever the advance team was for the clinton campaign. they should be fired. the trump campaign doesn't have a campaign apparatus that we know of.
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donald trump does everything. he is the campaign coordinator. the press secretary, the fund-raiser. apparentlily, he is the advance person, too, picking people behind him. this is just another exam many of, don't cast stones if you live in a glass house. so you know, it is kind of silly because there is no comparison. but donald trump needs to stop trying on point fingers other places where he clearly makes the same mistakes as well. >> it is important to point out that my colleagues on the left, had omar mateen's father behind him who was pro taliban who gave cover to al qaeda and who is anti-gay. this is who hillary clinton had three rows behind him. and he said he was invited. you can choose to believe that hillary clinton's team who said he was not invited or you can believe him that says he was invited. we know 64% of people don't trust hillary clinton. but it is unfathomable that he had a person who is was pro taliban.
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>> first of all, the campaign and secretary hillary clinton have fully disavowed -- >> we trust her completely. >> we sure don't trust donald trump so let's set that aside. if you're trying to say there is a choogs between hillary clinton and this man whose son massacred lgbt people, that is beyond defensive. so i don't know what you're implying. being that he was not invited. c, donald trump is going tomorrow with mark rubio in florida, not far from the post knight club where 49 lgbt people were massacred to an anti-gay organization event. so do not try to equate the mistake that was made by her campaign staff. and i agree with tara. whoever was in charge of the crowd should lose their job. and wait a minute, wait a minute. no. you can't ask me a question. >> because you can't answer the question. >> you can't ask me a question i
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can't answer. >> what attract the father of the laebld terrorist to your candidate? >> he is a mentally ill individual. >> pardon me? >> what attracted him to your candidate? your answer is he is mentally ill? >> stop smiling and smirking like it is a funny thing. that there is a man in north whose son massacred 49 people. and that man in my opinion, contributed to who his son was. he is clearly mentally unbalanced. running for president of afghanistan. >> kaley -- i have to ask you a question. and you are outrageous. >> hang on. hang on. again -- we're getting into issues here -- >> what attracts ant-gay people to donald trump? why does donald trump support the conversion therapy? answer those questions and don't spit out some legal jumbo jumbo. we may not be lawyers but that doesn't mean we're not the
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smartest people at the table. >> you brought up, what attracts david duke to donald trump? >> we are asked that every day. >> then answer it. >> for the first time i'm asking the same question to you that i've answered time and again. i've amountsed it time and time again. we cannot control how third parties support us. however, in this case, i think your party's weak policies on isis, your candidate's weak policies overrun by isis is what attracted the father of an isis terrorist. >> you don't think race baiting, attacking a makesan judge, you don't think that's what draws in one of the worst racists in america? >> you did this to ronald reagan. it didn't work and he was the best president we've ever had. >> i don't think david duke -- >> perhaps to the idea that campaigns, getting back to who is sitting on stage behind the candidates. tonight it is mark foley.
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does this not get to the idea that maybe these campaigns are not as tightly run as we thought they might be? >> well, yes, it certainly does. i think the mateen things a huge screw up. i think this is a much lesser screw up. it was mostly a screw-up but we should not come fair two campaigns. hillary clinton is running a campaign. donald trump is not running a campaign. it is weird to say that because he is a candidate. he is out there on the trail. but he is not running any tv ads. he is not on the ground anywhere. there are volunteers who do it because he is not out there doing it. >> you've been sitting here ally quiet. >> i would not have invited either one of these people to my rally. >> i don't know that either one was invited. we were talking about what the orlando shooter's father was
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saying. and mark foley said he's been friends for a long time. certainly this is an unfortunate occurrence when it happened in the clinton campaign. they say, and i believe them that they knew nothing about it. that this rally was open to the public. we don't know why mr. foley was there but i don't think it is a huge deal either. we have to focus on the important things. and the photograph behind the candidate at the campaign rally. it could be sometimes a security issue. certainly the they know in florida was not a good moment for anybody. their we're going to leave it there. more coming up on the guy who climbed trump tower today before he was pulled in through window by police. dramatic moments. we'll give you the latest. what if a company that didn't make cars made plastics that make them lighter? the lubricants that improved fuel economy.
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as you might have seen, it was pretty hard to turn away. for about three hours today, a man using suction cups scaled trump tower before the nypd pulled him in through a window
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on the 21st floor. this guy was climbing for several hours before police finally pulled him in. what's the latest? >> a pretty dramatic rescue. thousands of people were on the ground surrounding trump tower, looking at it. oohing and aahing it. we know this man is 20 years old from virginia. according to police, he came here from virginia last night. he spent three hours going vertical and horizontal, eraising police who were trying to tell him to get inside. and he kept saying that he was going to go all the way to the top. so it was a very dramatic scene unfolded before everybody's eyes. luckily it all ended safely. that man under bellevue hospital under evaluation. >> he posted a youtube video yesterday. what did he say? >> he told police about this youtube video as he was continuing his ascent.
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and he said basically, it is a message to mr. trump. a very gothic message. he said he was an independent researcher. that he had a message for mr. trump and he wanted to speak to him and he said this was the only way that he would get mr. trump's attention. if he went about it a conventional way, nobody would listen. that was his purpose. it was sort of rambling. it didn't say what the message was but he did hope he has donald trump's attention to deliver whatever that message may be. certainly an interesting way to go about it. >> at this moment, he is in bellevue hospital receiving psychiatric attention. and authorities will decide whether to press charges. of course, this is not the first time someone has looked at a super tall building and said, hey, i need to chime that thing. >> look at this view. the video taken that i a daring chimer in 2012. the man filmed himself as he
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chimed. often pointing the camera at the ground. the camera reportedly clenched between his teeth. it is dizzying to watch. that climber, the building was completed in 1952 and has 32 floors. it is considered one of the seven sky scrapers in the city known as the seven sisters. on his youtube page, the chimer wrote, this is the most dangerous thing i've ever done in my high of. please don't repeat under any circumstances. in april 2014, the french chimer used suction cups to chime the galaxy macaw tower in china. he did it to promote the amazing spiderman 2 movie. all he used were suction cups and a roam. in all he has chimed over 100 of the tallest buildings, chug dubai's tower. he pulled it off at 52 years
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have age without ropes in less than 70 minutes. it is considered the highest twisted tower in the world. >> when i climb, there is no space for fear. you are pushing aside everything and it is a lot about positive thinking. but everything is depending a hot on your mental and your physical. >> he also chimed "the new york times" building in manhattan. the first of three climbers to do so before the times increased security. the third man was david malone. unless 2008. while he scaled the building, police cordoned off the sidewalk when he managed to climb ten stories. >> it will be presented to the grand jury and ultimately, the truth will come out. >> still, a grand jury indicted malone on several charges mplg
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including misdemeanor reckless endangerment. >> in 2014, two russian dare devils pulled off an amazing stunt. skag the world's second tallest building. it was under construction and stood 2073 feet high. the men disappeared into the clouds without even using ropes or safety equipment. they filmed the terrifying feat for the world to see. journaling about the climb, they wrote, they chose the day to do it figuring security would be less watchful. they reportedly spent 18 hours on top of the building, sleeping and waiting for better weather for the climb down. police vowed to increase security after the two men escaped. cnn new york. >> thank you. a reminder of what happened. a man climbed up the side of trump tower. a lot of police resources, a lot of law enforcement resources were deployed.
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an investigation is under way in florida after a retired librarian acting like a victim in a shoot/don't shoot exercise was shot and killed by an officer who mistakenly fired live ammunition instead of blank rounds. victor blackwell reports. >> it just doesn't seem real that the brightest light in our life is gone. >> reporter: in a heart breaking irony, the tragedy that dimmed that light was not supposed to have been real. mary noelton volunteered to take
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part in a fake incident. noelton said his mom signed up for a different reason. >> we had been talking a two nights before about how bad things were for the police in this nation and she wanted to show her support, make it clear she supported them. >> noelton teamed up with another volunteer for a shoot/don't shoot role play. it's an exercise they've done before, even using the same revolver from other exercises. but that revolver had live ammunition. >> we were unaware that any live
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ammunition for this particular weapon existed. we believe that the particular caliber of the weapon used, that there were only blank rounds available to the officer. >> noelton, a wife for more than 50 years and a mother of two was shot once, according to police. she was pronounced dead at the hospital. >> why he had to shoot at her, i don't know. you sit and question, second guess. i washi had a time machine, i could go back a day and stop her from going. i'd give anything to talk to her again. >> a loss also felt personally by the police chief. >> mary noelton is a phenomenal person in this community. i know her very well. she attends a lot of community events. it's a horrific time for all of us. >> as the florida law enforcement tries to figure out how and why that live round was
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used, the officer has been placed on administrative leave. >> i know the guy that did this probably can't even live in his own skin right now but we want him to know we're sure he didn't intend on this happening and i forgive him. >> grief counseling has been given to the officer and to those who witnessed the shooting as police try to understand how such a tragic accident could have happened outside their own police station. victor blackwell, cnn, atlanta. >> just awful. we'll be right back. a model needs vibrant hair color to light up the runway. schwarzkopf presents color ultîme. its color blend formula locks pigment in for brilliant, vibrant colors. discover runway colors that last. color ultîme, developed with claudia schiffer.
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that does it for us. time now for "cnn tonight" with don lemon. >> security breach. authorities grab a man who climbs up trump tower, and they talk to the campaign about trump's second amendment remarks against hillary clinton. this is "cnn tonight." i'm don lemon. trump still battling the fallout of his comments, clinton slamming trump, telling supporters that words matter. >> if you are running to be president or you are president of the united states, words can have tremendous consequences. his casual inciting of violence. >> trump blasting clinton over a new batch of e-mails that point to a link between h

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