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donald trump makes a big speech to supporters in wisconsin. this is cnn tonight. i'm don lemon. trump speaking on law and order in a weekend of unrest in milwaukee. he made a pitch for african-american voters saying hillary clinton and democrats take them for granted. >> he doesn't care at all about the hurting people of this country or the suffering she has caused them and she, meaning she and her party officials. there has been tremendous suffering because of what they have brought. the african-american community has been taken for granted for decades by the democratic party and look how they're doing. it is time to break with the failures of the past. i want to offer americans a new and much better future.
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>> and listen to what trump had to say about one of his favorite topics blasting the media. >> the insiders also include the media executives, anchors and journalists in washington, los angeles and new york city who are part of the same failed status quo and want nothing to change. they don't want it to change. they like it just fine the way it is now. >> trump promised to protect american jobs. >> we'll stand up to china, withdraw from tpp which is another disaster, and protect every last american job. we are going to protect every last american job, which we're not doing now. >> this was the speech that sparked heated debate. you can hear the whole thing
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starting now. >> thank you. what a group. wow. beautiful. thank you. thank you, everybody, thank you. it is great to be here tonight. i'm honored to be joined by governor scott walker. great gentleman and a great, a really great governor. reince priebus and rudolf guiliani. we're at a decisive moment in this election. last week i laid out my plan to bring jobs back to our country. desperately needed jobs. yesterday, i laid out my plan to
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defeat radical islamic terrorism. tonight i'm going to talk about how to make our community safe again from crime and lawlessness. . let me begin by thanking law enforcement officers here in this city and across this country for their service and sacrifice in difficult, difficult, difficult times the violence, riots and destruction that have taken place in milwaukee is an assault on the right of all citizens to live in security and to live in peace. law and order much be restored.
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it must be restored for the sake of all and especially for those living in the affected communities of which there are many. the main victims of these riots are law abiding african-american citizens living in these neighborhoods. it is their job, it is their homes, it is their schools and communities which will suffer the most as a result. there is no compassion in tolerating lawless conduct for anyone. crime and violence is an attack on the poor and will never be accepted in a trump administration. the narrative has been pushed aggressively for years and now, by our current administration and pushed by my opponent,
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hillary clinton, you know, is a totally false one. you know that. the problem in our poorest community seas not that there are too many police. the problem is there are not enough police. more law enforcement, more community engagement, more effective policing is what our country needs desperately. just like hillary clinton is against the miners, she is against the police. believe me. you know it and i know it, and guess what? she knows it. those pedaling the narrative of cops as racist in our society is a narrative supported with a nod of my opponent shared directly
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in the responsibility for the unrest in milwaukee and many other places within our country. they have fosters the dangerous, anti-police atmosphere in america and all throughout america. every time we rush to judgment with false facts and narratives when did in ferguson or baltimore and encourage further unrest hurt those with high crime in our community. a big, big, unfair problem. during the last 72 hours, while protesters have raged against the police here in milwaukee, another nine were killed in chicago, and another 46 were wounded. more than 2,600 people have been shot in chicago since the
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beginning of the year and almost 4,000 people killed in president obama's hometown area since his presidency began. not too good. that's for sure. so how are we serving these american victims by attacking law enforcement officers? the war on our police must end and it must end now. thank you. the war on police is the war on all peaceful citizens who want to be able to work and live and send their kids to school in safety. our job is not to make life more
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comfortable for the rioter or the looter or the violent disrupter for which there are many. our job is to make life more comfortable for the african-american parent who wants their kids to be able to safely, safely walk the streets and walk to school, or the senior citizen waiting for a bus or the young child walking home from school. for every one violent protester, there are 100 moms and dads and kids on the same city block who just want to be able to sleep safely at night. they want safety. my opponent, hillary, would rather protect the offender than the victim. big problem in our society hillary clinton backed policies are responsible for the problems
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in the inner-cities today and a vote for her is a vote for another generation of poverty, high crime, and lost opportunities. i care too much about my country to let this happen. >> the fact is that we all care too much about our country to let this happen. good policing saves lives. my wonderful friend who you just heard, rudy guiliani, knows a thing or two about this. he has done an amazing job. the policies put into place by rudy brought down crime by 76%
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and murder by 84% in new york. think of how many families were saved, how much heart ache was presented when police were put into communities and criminals were automatically and systematically removed. imagine how many lives could have been saved all across this country if democratic politicians hadn't blocked in their cities what rudy did in new york city. i'll make sure we deliver safe neighborhoods here in milwaukee and milwaukee has got so many problems, so many problems. the world is watching. right here, in milwaukee, but also across the country. it is easy for hillary clinton to turn a blind eye to crime when she has her own private security force that, by the way, carries guns, second amendment.
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i believe all americans, not just the powerful, are entitled to security. hillary clinton has had her chance. she failed at so many things, almost everything she has done. now, it is time for new leadership. the hillary clinton agenda hurts poor people by far the more. there is no compassion in allowing drug dealers, gang members, and felons to prey on innocent people. it is the first duty of government to keep the innocent safe and when i'm president, i will fight for the safety of every american and especially those americans who have not known safety for a very, very long time.
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i'm asking for the vote of every african-american citizen struggling in our country today who wants a different and much better future. it is time for our society to address some honest and very, very difficult truths. the democratic party has betrayed the african-american community. democratic crime policies, education policies and economic policies have produced only more crime, more broken homes, and more poverty. let us look at the situation right here in milwaukee, a city run by democrats for decade
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after decade. last year killings in this city increased by 69%, plus another 634 victims of non-fatal shootings. 18 to 29-year-olds accounted for nearly half of the homicide victims. the poverty rate here is nearly double the national average. almost 4 in 10 african-american men in milwaukee between the ages of 25 and 54 do not have a job. nearly 4 in 10 single mother households are living in poverty. 55 public sdochools in this cit have been rated as failing to meet expectations despite $10,000 in funding per pupil which is a very, very high number. there is only a 60% graduation rate and it is one of the worst public school systems anywhere
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in the country. one in five manufacturing jobs has disappeared in milwaukee since we fully opened our markets and you understand what that means. we opened these markets to china and many african-american neighborhoods have burnt. look, they have suffered. we opened our markets. they've taken our jobs. they give us our products that we don't make anymore and african-american neighborhoods, along with many other neighborhoods have suffered greatly. to every voter in milwaukee, to every voter living in the inner-city or every forgotten stretch of our society, i'm running to offer you a much better future. a much better job. and a much higher wage.
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thank you. thank you. the democratic party has taken the votes of african-americans for granted. they've just assumed they'll get your support and done nothing in return for it. they've taken advantage of the african-american citizen. it is time to give the democrats some competition for these votes and it is time to rebuild the inner-cities of america and to reject the failed leadership of a rigged political system and that is what it is. it is a rigged system. i'm not part of the corrupt system. in fact, the corrupt system is trying to stop me. i've been paying my own way. tens of millions of dollars. tens of millions of dollars. the voters in the republican
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party this year defied the donors, the consultants, the power brokers and chose a nominee from outside of the failed and corrupt broken system. the nominee is me. the other party, the democratic party nominated the personification of special interest corruption. the democratic party rigged the nomination to give to to to hillary clinton to give the soul of the party this year to special interests. what else is new? i'm running to listen to your voice. to hear the cries for help from so many people in our nation. the quiet voices in our society, not the loudest demonstrators,
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need to have their demands heard. jobs, safety, opportunity, fair and equal representation, we reject the bigotry of hillary clinton which panders to and talks down to communities of color and sees them only as votes, that is all they care about. not as individual human beings worthy of a better future. they have taken advantage. she doesn't care at all about the hurting people of this country or the suffering she has caused them and she, meaning she and her party officials, there has been tremendous suffering because of what they have brought. the african-american community has been taken for granted for
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decades by the democratic party and look how they're doing. it is time to break with the failures of the past. i want to offer americans a new and much better future. it is time for rule by the people. not rule for the special interests which we have right now. thank you. every insider getting rich off our broken system and it is broken, is throwing money at hillary rodham clinton. the hedge fund managers, the wall street investors, the professional, political class. it is the powerful protecting only the powerful. they don't care about you. believe me. insiders fighting for insiders, but i'm fighting for you. that is what i'm doing.
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when we talk about the insider, who are we talking about? it is the comfortable politicians looking out for their own interests. it is the lobbyists who know how to insert the perfect loophole into every single bill and get richer and richer and richer at your expense. it is the financial industry that knows how to regulate the competition right out of existence so there is no competition. the insiders also include the media executives, anchors and journalists in washington, los angeles, and new york city, who are part of the same failed status quo, and want nothing to change. they don't want it to change. they like it just fine the way it is now. every day you pick up a
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newspaper or turn on the nightly news and hear about a self interest banker or washington insider say they oppose donald trump's campaign. but you don't oppose it, that i can tell you. you don't oppose it. thank you. thank you. it is a great honor. you have three times as many people standing outside trying to get in, so i just want to tell you. thank you. amazing. or some encrusted old poll significan addition say they -- politician saying they oppose the campaign or a big time lobbyist say they
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oppose the campaign of trump, i wear their opposition as a badge of honor. because it means that i'm fighting for real change. not just partisan change where everybody else gets rich but you. a rigged, rigged system. remember it, i said it first, i'll probably be saying it for a long time, but eventually, we're going to break that system. i'm fighting all of us across the country are fighting for peaceful regime change in our own country. the media donor political complex that bled this country dry has to be replaced with a new government of, by, and for the people.
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the leadership clash in washington d.c. of which hillary clinton has been a member for 30 years has abandoned the people of this country. they care about themselves. they only care about themselves. i am going to give the people their voice back. think about it. the people opposing our campaign are the same people who have left our border open and let innocent people suffer as a result, including vast amounts of crime. vast amounts of drugs pouring into our country, and poisoning our youth and our people. the people opposing our campaign are the same people who have let us into one disastrous foreign
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war after another. win after another. no wins, no victory, no nothing. the people opposing our campaign are the same people who lied to us about one trade deal after another. they keep getting worse. aren't you tired of a system that gets rich at your expense because that is what is happening. aren't you tired of big media, big businesses and big donors rigging the system to keep your voice from being heard? are you ready for change? are you ready for leadership that puts you, the american people first together. first. that puts our country first.
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america first, remember that. america first. america first. america first. let's talk about what this means for the inner-cities of america. a big, big problem. unsolved forever. it is time to break through the television noise. the entrenched interests which are just decimating our country and our inner-cities. i understand that a lot of powerful people are in our political system. a lot of people who have created our problems will lose a lot of their contracts and a lot of their money if african-american voters and all of the minority voters support my campaign. that, i know. that i know for sure. it is time to stop making the special interests rich. it is time to make the american
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people much richer than they've ever been before. i'm going to make america wealthy again. we have to make america wealthy again if we're going to do what we want to do, we have to be smart. we have to make america wealthy again. the democratic party has run nearly every inner-city in this country for 50 years and run them into financial ruin. virtually every single one. they've ruined the schools, they've driven out the jobs, they've tolerated a level of crime no american should consider acceptable. worse than many third world countries. so bad people don't want to report on it. the real numbers are beyond belief. violent crime has risen 17% in america's 50 largest cities last
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year. killings of police officers this year is up nearly 50%. homicides are up more than 60% in baltimore alone. they're up more than 50% in washington d.c. this is the future offered by the policies of hillary clinton and her friends. more poverty, more crime, and basically just more of the same. the future she offers is the most pessimistic thing i can possibly imagine. it is time for a different future. here is what i'm proposing. first, on immigration. no community in this country has been hurt worse by hillary clinton's immigration and all of her policies than the african-american community and she considers them a guaranteed
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vote. now she is proposing to print instant work permits for millions of illegal immigrants to come in and take everybody's job including low income african-americans. not right. not going to happen. i will secure our border improve your jobs and wages in our communities. we'll improve our wages, improve our jobs, and we're not going to let companies leave our countries so quickly and so easily for other lands and then take their products and sell it to us. not going to happen. . we'll only invite people to joip our country who share our tolerant values, support our constitution and love all of our people. they love our people.
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they have to love our country. or what are we doing? on trade, i'm going to renegotiate nafta, one of the worst trade deals signed in the history of our country. perhaps the worst signed in the history of the world. we'll stand up to china, withdraw from tpp which is another disaster. and protect every last american job. we're going to protect every last american job which we're not doing now. on taxes, i'm going to give a massive tax cut to every worker in small business in this country, bring thousands of new companies and millions of new jobs on to our shores, and make it very difficult for our
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businesses to leave. it will be a costly proposition for them to fire everybody and leave. i'm going to reform our regulations so jobs stay in america and new businesses come to america to hire workers even right here in milwaukee. every policy my opponent has sends jobs outside of the country and over seas, i'm going to bring trillions and new wealth into the united states. our education, believe me, you look at our education. it is time to have school choice, merit pay for teachers and end the tenure policies that hurt good teachers and reward bad teachers.
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and there is no job more important than a good teacher. please remember that. there is no job more important. we are going to put students and parents first. hillary clinton would rather deny opportunities to millions of young african-american children just so she can curry favor with the education bureauob burocracy. i will let charter schools to thrive and let american kids to get on the ladder of success, a good education and a good paying job. that is what they want. on crime, i am going to support more police in our communities, appoint the best prosecutors and judges in the country.
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pursue strong enforcement of federal laws and break up the gangs, the cartels and the criminal syndicates terrorizing our neighborhoods all around the country and that includes milwaukee. to every law breaker hurting innocent people in this country, i say your free reign will soon come crashing to an end. on healthcare, we're going to get rid of obama care, repeal it, and replace it. it caused soaring double digit premium increases and we'll give choice to patients and consumers across our land. aetna just announced today that they're dropping out as are many of the major insurance
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companies. obama care is a disaster. it is a disaster. on government corruption, i'm going to restore honor to our government. we've seen the corruption of hillary clinton. the mass e-mail -- look at what is going on, folks. look what is going on. the mass e-mail deletions. have you seen the 33,000 deletions? the pay for play at the state department. the profiteering, the favors given to foreign corporations and governments at your expense and taxpayer's expense and it is not acceptable any longer. it is corrupt. we've seen a former secretary of state lie to congress about her illegal e-mail scheme, risk innocent american lives and bring dishonor on to our
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government. great, great dishonor, in my administration, i'm going to enforce all laws concerns the protection of classified information. those laws are already protected, we thought, but perhaps everybody is wrong. perhaps all of those that have served jail time were wrong. she got special favors and nobody has ever seen anything like it in the history of our country. no one will be above the law. i'm going to forbid senior officials from trading favors for cash by preventing them from collecting lavish speaking fees through the spouses where they
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serve. i am going to ask my senior officials to sign an agreement not to accept speaking fees from corporations for the registered lobbyist for five years after leaving office or for any entity tied to a foreign government. what is happening is disgraceful. this is all just the beginning. we're going to make this a government of the people once again. this is our chance. this is it. this is it. the last chance. this is our chance to take back power from all the people who have taken it from you over so many years. the reason you see the establishment and the establishment media lining up behind my opponent is because they are scared that you, with your vote, can take away their power and return it to your
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family and to your community. and they are scared and they have no idea how many people on november 8th are going to come out and vote. these are tough times but i know we can make america greater than ever before. i have absolutely no doubt. i have gotten to know the people of this country and i'll tell you, there are no people like the people i have gotten to know. no people. to do this, we're going to need a fighter in the white house.
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i will be your fighter. believe me. i will be your fighter. to defeat crime and radical islamic terrorism in our country, to win trade in our country, you need tremendous physical and mental strength and stamina. hillary clinton doesn't have that strength and stamina. believe me and you know it and they know it and everybody knows it. she cannot win for you. most importantly, she has very, very bad judgment. bad judgment on terrorism. bad judgment on foreign policy. bad judgment on trade. the only individuals she has ever delivered for are her donors. not the people. just the donors.
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i've said it before and i'll say it again. my opponent asks her supporters to recite a three word pledge. her pledge reads, i'm with her. i choose to recite a totally different pledge. my pledge reads i'm with you, the american people. i will fight to ensure that every american is treated equally, protected equally, and honored equally.
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we will reject bigotry and hatred and oppression in all of the many, ugly forms. and seek a new future of security, prosperity, and opportunity. a future built on our common culture and values as one american people. i am asking for your vote on november 8th, so i can be your champion in the white house. okay? i will be your champion, i will be your voice in the white house. i will be your voice. i will once again be the voice of law and order. and we will once again be a country of great and unchallenged success.
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to every parent who dreams for her children and every child who dreams of their future, i say these words to you tonight. i'm with you. i will fight for you, and i will win for you. together, we will make america strong again. we will make america safe again, and we will make america great again, greater than ever before. thank you and god bless you. thank you. thank you. thank you. >> donald trump just wrapping up his speech in wisconsin. you're looking at him live there
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on the lec turn speaking in wisconsin. we'll get analysis. we have a panel assembled here of a lot of people and i'll introduce them first. corey lewandowski is here. guy cecil is here. van jones, bruce lavell, anna navarro. lefrpz get we'll get to them in just a moment. our jason carroll is also there in the audience at the speech there this evening in wisconsin listening to donald trump. do we have jason? jason it was a tough law and order speech. how did supporters respond there? >> don, this was a speech not just about law and order, i'm sure you realize this is a speech that also made an attempt to reach out to the african-american community. we've heard donald trump speak on a number of occasions, but never in such strong terms in terms of reaching out to the
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african-american community. there were several times when we heard him mention that hillary clinton and the democratic party in his words panders to the african-american community, takes advantage of the african-american community, takes advantage of poor communities, and that he is now the answer going forward to bring not only safety back to communities like milwaukee but bringing back economic development to communities that in his words, once again, have been taken advantage of by the democratic party. there is something that is very striking to me here in washington county where we are now, don, this is a community that is overwhelmingly white. i mean, when you look at the recent census report, 96% of the people who live in this county are white. only about 1% are
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african-american and so while the trump campaign has been criticized many, many times in the past for not doing enough to reach out to african-american communities and communities of color, he did do that here, so he had the message, but he delivered it in a place that was striking to some people here in the room as we looked around and i said to one person who was standing over on the side, she said it is sort of odd that he is delivering that speech, reaching out to african-americans in a room like where we are here. she still agreed with what trump had to say, she still agreed that he needed to say it but why did he say it here as opposed to being in an african-american community and delivering those words. some critics will look at this and say his words would could have much more of an impact. what we're seeing is a direct attempt by the trump campaign to do more to bring more communities of color into the
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tent, as you know, he has been said to run a decisive campaign. this is a law and order speech that he delivered but in no uncertain terms, this was an attempt to reach out to communities of color. don? >> yeah, jason, that was the stark thing and i think the thing going around social media now and that what people will be discussing. he delivered a speech that many, a lot of people may agree with but the speech he delivered it to, he was sort of speaking to the chorus, not really speaking to the folks he really needed to speak to the congregation. thank you very much, jason carroll. we'll get back to you later on. we'll bring in a former trump campaign member cory lewian lewandowski. bruce lavell of the national coalition for trump and cnn political contributor van joene
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and anna navaror. i have my hands full. to jason's point, he is delivering the speech. he is on a national audience here on cnn and other networks but delivering this speech in front of an all white audience when he is speaking mostly about african-americans. >> well, first off, don, just a slight correction here. i don't work for the campaign. the national diversity coalition which is on is we're -- >> you're working with the campaign, aren't you a surrogate? aren't you trying to help donald trump? >> we're a group of volunteers, sir, we're nationally all over. we represent all of the states from different ethnic backgrounds from african-americans, hispanic americans. we've been doing this grass root coalition for several months since last year and this is what surprised me when i see the polls. hundreds of thousands have
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signed up to be part of the coalition. if you noticed previously throughout the several months, there have been very consultary diverse, you know, different folks from all over the coalition from all over the country that represent mr. trump and have a voice whether you're hispanic, african-american. so i have to respectfully disagree on some of the polls because we have been out on the ground, getting going. a lot of us have surrogates all over the state that speak to urban radio stations and go to the churches -- >> what about specifically this speech where he talked mostly about african-americans and he spoke about crime, he talked about the inner-city. he said hillary clinton is bad for democrats and hillary clinton bad for african-americans. what about this particular speech? jason's point, why not deliver it in milwaukee which has a higher percentage of african-americans which has had so much unrest over the last couple of days. why not there, specifically to this particular speech and his audience? >> well, you know, with all due respect, i don't know that, in terms of logistics, i do know, however, when the trump campaign comes to town, i mean, we're talking about 20, 30, 40, 50,000
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people, so in terms of venue, i don't know, i can't speak for the campaign in terms of where the venue might be or what have you. i don't know milwaukee. but i do know they try to find venues that can house 30, 40, 50,000 people. i have seen that in the past. so, we're not trying to, you know, run from the fact, but however, this message, this speech that he has tonight has been played for millions and misdemean millions of people all over the world. i want to make a quick note on this, mr. trump has been meeting several years with a lot of african-american pastors, hispanic pastors, evangelicals. >> i want to get to this speech and talk to the other panelists. i want to get to van jones. >> first of all, the reason he didn't go to milwaukee is the reason why he doesn't go to african-american communities in general. it is easy to sit up there and talk about a community that
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you're not talking to. there are pastors he talks to he doesn't go. i want top draw a contrast. there was unrest the night dr. king was killed. bobby kennedy, who had a palpable concern for the poor and a palpable concern for people of color and a track record of being there, went right into the heart of gary, indiana, and spoke to those people in a moment of grief and brought peace and calm. if donald trump, with that message, he is at 1% of black support right now. he might be 0% tonight because that message tonight was so shocking in the decisiveness, trying to put blacks against latinos which is the worst thing you can do. acting as if the only reason that we have problems in our community is because of democrats and not because we have not -- both parties have failed to address these under lying concerns. i watched this speech with alarm
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in my heart that an american leader would walk into a situation like this with so little grace. let me just say one more thing. we have a lot of people to talk here tonight. >> we have to get them in. >> there is a way to talk to african-americans about the problems that we have. we're tired of going to funerals. we're tired of crime, but we're crushed between street violence and some unlawful police violence. if you care about us, you have to talk about both sides of the problem and bring us together. not talk about one side of problem and try to divide us against latinos. >> he spoke about law and order. but the way he spoke about law and order and criminalality and crime. it is as if african-americans commit all of the crime in this country. we know that is not true. that is what i got from the speech. what is your take away? >> you know, the speech had some good lines in it. it, frankly, rich, very rich
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lines coming from donald trump. it is almost laughable to hear him at this point say that we're going to reject bigotry and hatred when he has been doing nothing but fanning the flames of bigotry, hatred for this entire campaign. i think this speech was a good speech in some aspects. here is the problem. any well trained parent rot or keet can retate words. it is when a man speaks from his heart and what is in his mind that we get really, really scared. he goes way off the reservation and says things that are offensive, decisive, he does things like mock reporters, he does things like call african-americans, look at my african-american over there, he says -- >> quickly, ana. >> a judge born in the united states can't do his job because of his heritage.
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judge a man not by what he reads. just a man by what he says when he is not reading. >> i'll get kelly anne. i would imagine you didn't get the take away from the speech that someone of us got when but as a person of color, that only people of color in this country kplcommit crimes. >> he didn't say that. >> i didn't hear him mention teleother group but african-americans and crime. >> i think the comment -- >> did you hear him mention any other group? hang on, the before you achnswe before you answer did you hear limb mention any other group besides african-americans? >> what i heard him do which is incredibly important -- >> you can say that kellyanne, answer my question first. i'm telling you, that's what many people received. >> many people did not. >> did you hear him mention any other group besides african-americans when it comes to crime? in this particular speech? >> what i heard him say is --
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>> yes or no, kellyanne? >> i don't recall. why are you badgering me? >> i'm trying to get a straight answer. >> you are badgering me. you allowed three people to criticize his speech. >> they answered my question directly. when they veered him -- >> you didn't ask them a factual question about the speech. >> you didn't hear him. >> this is what i heard him say. i heard him talk about facts and figures. if anybody wants to dispute facts and figures, i'd like to hear that. hillary clinton wants the campaign to be about tone and temperament. is it a fact or fantasy that in major cities for a number of years now, decades in fact in some major cities, don, you've had democratic mayors and city the education system, poverty rate, which affects all races? what has happened to the fatherlessness, the lack of opportunities, the crime, street crime van is talking about. donald trump -- >> crime is going down. >> tell the victims of crime that. >> let her finish, van. >> they don't feel it's going down. >> it's going down.
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you said facts and figures. the fact is crime has been going down across the country and we have some spots where there's a lot of pain and suffering. >> thanks for reminding me. >> republicans -- you've never gone to a funeral, you only bring these things up when you can beat up a democrat. come to the community and be with us and we'll listen. >> van, i've been to the community plenty of times, okay? i work with chartered schools in this city. >> kellyanne, let me stop here, everyone. we're trying to have a conversation. >> really? >> yes, we want to have an honest conversation. if you're not answering the questions, we're trying to come to some consensus about donald trump's speech. hang on, please. i asked you a very simple question. answer yes or no then go on with your point. van is trying to make a point to you, no one is attacking you. >> i don't feel ioattacked. >> trying to get an honest -- >> i didn't ep feel surprised. everybody else got to respond the way they wanted to. >> i am allowing you to speak. >> i heard about bigotry, i heard about judges. >> i'm feeling animosity from
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you. there's no animosity. i'm trying to get you to answer the question and you're doing that. go on. >> just say what i want to say about the speech? >> go on, yes. >> as i was saying before, if you want to talk about facts and figures, let's have a conversation. any facts he raised that were not true, figures about the democratically controlled cities where the problems he has identified have been on the rise? is there anything he said about the media consultant donor class rigged corrupt system where hillary clinton is a card carrying member of that? where they nominated somebody who is part of the system that doesn't benefit the little guy. doesn't benefit any of us. hers the outsiders. is there anything he said there that was not true? i'm telling you, if you talk about facts and figures and not just tone and temperament the way people want this whole campaign to be over because they want to talk about that and define it the way -- >> tone andcampaign? >> did i say that? >> that's what you're insinuating. >> i'm not insinuating anything. >> are tone and temperament
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important in this campaign, you can say yes or no. >> you said they're not important. >> just say yes they are. >> of course they're important. you know what else is important, the fact that united health care said it has suffered $1 billion in losses because of obamacare, pulled out of 30 states. you know what else is important to people of all color? that $430 million absorbed in losses by aetna that pulled out of 11 of 15 states. you don't think obamacare, affording caable care act is a disaster? i think that affects lots of people. those are facts and figures. people want to criticize donald trump for not reaching out to the african-american community. and when he gives one speech, they attack him for not doing it the way they think he should do it. >> i don't think anyone is attacking donald trump. i think we're giving a read on what people are feeling about this -- >> don, part of what kellyanne is talks aboing about -- >> please stand by. we have to reset. it's the top of the hour. this is the top of the hour. this is "cnn tonight." i'm don lemon. you heard donald trump giving a
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law speech speaking on law and order in a wake of a weekend of unrest in milwaukee and made a pitch for african-american voters say democrats take them for granted and took a shot at hk illary clinton. i'm joined by my panel. we're going to continue. >> immediately coming out of donald trump's speech, did he deliver this in the right community? that's the first response. outreach to african-americans, not talk at the fact he said, look, our country is at a perilous point, we have to protect our police. make sure our communities are safe, make sure people have good education. >> how are you going to talk about that? >> i understand. >> the first person we went to was a reporter -- >> to question where the speech was being done. that's not objective. hillary clinton was in scranton, pennsylvania, with joe biden yesterday. no one said to her, that's not an african-american community because joe biden talked about african-americans. what's the african-american population in scranton, pennsylvania? i didn't see the reporters talking about that as soon as that speech was done. where's the equity. >> where's the fairness? i don't see it. that's the problem. >> she wasn't giving a speech on
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african-americans. >> but donald trump wasn't just giving that speech. le he was talking about security, violence against police officers -- >> the bulk of his speech. >> there's an 80% increase in gun violence against police officers over last year. that's a fact. >> what was the bulk of the speech about? >> it was a broad speech about charter schools, about homeland security domestically which is protecting police. it was about economic safety. it was about changes in washington, d.c., and the corrupt system. >> it was. he spoke a lot about african-americans. >> it wasn't just about that. that's you focused in on. >> nobody said it was just about african-americans. he spoke a lot about it. >> does he have to give a speech in washington, d.c.,broken? >> we're analyzing the speech, corey. everything can be analyzed. go ahead, van. >> corey, i thought that the most remarkable thing about the speech, he said a lot of divisive stuff and law and order stuff in the past. the most remarkable thing about the speech is he did address the african-american community and said the word african-american and the african-american people almost two dozen times. i done think you can sit up here
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and say he's -- he was not aiming this speech in important ways at a new constituency. in general, that's a good thing. we've wanted him to reach out. he's doing that. unfortunately he did it in an arena that made it somewhat laughable and with rhetoric that was very, very, i think, disrespectful. the african-american community has other things going on than just crime. the only thing that he's saying about us is we're the victims of crime or committing crime. that adds to stereotype. >> van, that's not what he said. he said the democratic party has taken f taken advantage and taken for granted, and he's reaching out to slow that under a republican administration, under a trump administration, what that would look like is better schools, better jobs. stop illegal immigration with digs proportionately hurts african-american communities. he talked all about that because it is true the democrats have taken advantage and taken for
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granted the african-american community and trup trup reaching out to say there is a second choice. >> what you're trying to aim at, you're correct, there's a section of the black community that is frustrated the democrats have not delivered. he is smart enough politically to go after that. the execution of it, the way he went about it i thought was despicable. he tried to divide us from our latino citizens and brothers. if you know anything about what's going on -- >> van, how did he do that? i missed that. >> he said that on the undocumented community, i think he said illegal community, is there leer tahere taking jobs. >> he said hispanic. he didn't say that. you said that. >> let's correct that. >> i'm going to make the assumption -- >> don't try to say he's playing -- >> one at a time, please. one at a time. >> respectfully, let's get it right. >> dually corrected. i'm going to make the assumption most people didn't think he was talking about canadians, most people didn't think he was talking about swedish models.
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>> van, come on. >> let me finish. people -- >> come on. >> that's what most people heard. one of the greatest things that's happened in the country is there's been a big healing at the grassroots level between latinos and blacks. used to be a lot of violence, a lot of anger. for him to go and try and rip that back open for political purposes is wrong. >> bruce, you want to respond? >> i disagree with that. you know, it's what he said in the speech, he said, van, he said, you know, hillary's using, you know, her motives to gain other people of illegal immigrants and not -- that does affect african-american jobs. that's true, van. i mean, really. there's nothing, you know, guys, i'm sorry -- >> speaking of guys, guy has not said one thing the entire time so, guy cecil, go ahead. a i've heard you, seen you reacting a couple times. >> silence is valor. this is a good example of that. i think context is important here. you lad a republican candidate
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who has brought in 1,100 workers from overseas to staff his businesses, complain about workers coming in to take african-american jobs. he could have easily hired them in his workplace. you u have someone lecturing us about crime. you have someone that's trying to speak about the african-american community but left out the fact his own company was marking applications for apartments noting which ones were african-american before outright rejecting him. yes, words are great. whether you like the speech or dislike the speech, the fact of the matter is that donald trump has had an entire career of attacking people. a couple of days ago he talked about low some communities, some communities in pennsylvania are going to engage there massive voter fraud. now, you don't have to be a genius to know which communities he was talking about. whether it's been been inference, intentionally dividing african-americans and hispanics, whether