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and harsh rhetoric of his running mate, donald trump? and buckeye bounce. hillary clinton pulls slightly ahead in the crucial battleground state of ohio. can she build on her momentum in sunday's second-round showdown with donald trump? i am wolf blitzer. you are in "the situation room." breaking news. millions of americans from florida through the carolinas may be forced to leave their homes as a killer hurricane heads towards the east coast. hurricane matthew has left a trail of destruction in the caribbean and is expected to once again be a category 4 storm after moving through the bahamas. florida is bracing for a direct hit. with the governor warning of massive destruction and evacuations are under way as far north as carolina. president obama is warning americans to take the storm very seriously. the latest forecast is just in.
also breaking the justice department announced the arrest of a government contractor for allegedly stealing top-secret intelligence. the fbi believes he took material the national security agency developed to break into computer systems in other countries. he worked for the same firm as the notorious leaker edward snowden. in politics. donald trump has pronounced his running mate the victor in last night's vice presidential debate saying pence won on the issues but he was unwilling to defend the attacks on trump's record by democrat tim kaine. trump is slamming hillary clinton at a rally in nevada just now. a new poll shows clinton has taken back the lead in the critical battleground state of ohio and she is off the campaign trail today preparing for sunday's all-important second-round debate with donald trump. i'll speak with the republican congressman adam kinzinger and our correspondents, analysts and guests. let's begin with the trump campaign. claiming a win in last night's
vice presidential debate even as it prepares for the next rebound. our senior white house correspondent jim acosta is on the campaign trail in nevada. jim, is donald trump happy with the job mike pence did? >> oh, he's very happy, wolf. donald trump is latching onto mike pence's performance in last night's vice presidential debate as a major victory for his campaign. now the question for trump is whether he can out do his number two. donald trump is taking a victory lap, declaring the bottom of his ticket came out on top in the vice presidential debate. >> mike pence did an incredible job. and i am getting a lot of credit because that's really my first so-called choice. i would argue that mike had the single most decisive victory in the history of vice presidential debates. >> if you can't meet the mixing standard. >> gentlemen, people at home cannot understand either one of you. >> reporter: mike pence was at times sprinting as fast as he
could away from trump as tim kaine was in hot pursuit. >> i'm happy to defend him. most of what you said is completely false and the american people know that. >> reporter: while the indiana governor stayed cool deflecting most of kaine's attacks most are talking about his comment about the mexican immigrants being rapists and criminals as a defining moment. >> can you defend it? >> there are criminal aliens in this country. many of them are good people. you keep leaving that out of your quote. >> reporter: kaine repeatedly raised the gop's praise of russian president vladimir putin. >> this is one where you go to the tape on it. governor pence said, inarguably, vladimir putin is a better leader than president obama. >> that is absolutely inaccurate. >> reporter: here is what he said to cnn. >> it's inarguable that vladimir putin has been a stronger leader in his country than barack obama has been in this country.
>> reporter: instead, during the debate pence was talking tough on putin, insisting a president trump would stare down the russian leader in syria. despite reservations voiced by trump himself. >> i would have stayed out of syria. >> if russia chooses to be involved and continue i should say in being involved in the attack on civilians in aleppo, the united states of america should be prepared to use military force. >> reporter: polls show pence's reganesque performance carried the night. shrugging off the fact that trump didn't pay federal income taxes for two decades. >> he said, that makes me smart. it's smart not to pay for the military. it's smart not to pay for health care. >> reporter: when his son was asked by dana bash whether his father had paid federal income taxes over the last 20 years his answer hardly put the matter to rest. >> yes, absolutely. my father pays a tremendous
amount of tax. we as a company pay a tremendous amount of tax. >> reporter: with the next presidential debate days away, the pressure is back on the top of the ticket. this time, trump's campaign manager says the gop nominee will be ready. >> we prepare constantly. and he has gotten very excited about the town hall format. it's a sweet spot for him. >> reporter: donald trump will be holding a town hall event in new hampshire tomorrow night as sort of a dry run for the town hall debate with hillary clinton coming up on sunday. and unlike the way the advisors for donald trump were lowering expectations for the last debate they're doing the opposite this time just as mike pence did last night. they seem to be raising expectations for donald trump for this faceoff with hillary clinton. and wolf, they are pushing back on the notion that he is taking on a lighter schedule to practice more for that upcoming debate. kellyanne conway, the campaign manager for trump told me it's just the opposite.
hillary clinton has the lighter schedule these days, wolf. >> jim acosta in reno, nevada with donald trump. thank you very much. tim kaine pounded at donald trump's record last night. hillary clinton is pleased with his performance. brianna keilar is joining us. hillary is off the campaign trail today. >> yeah. that's right. she is, wolf. she is spending the day in washington, d.c., as she and her campaign say that her running mate got the job done last night. >> i just want to talk about the tone that set from the top. >> reporter: the night after tim kaine's debate with mike pence. good reviews from his running mate hillary clinton. she is off the trail fund-raising and prepping for her second debate showdown with donald trump on sunday, but her big-name surrogates are out in force. one-time rival bernie sanders imploring voters to look past clinton's unfavorable ratings on election day. >> politics is not about personality. i know if you watch the tv and you watch national media, they
think that politics is like "dancing with the stars." you know. it's like the super bowl or the world series. it's not. it's not entertainment. what politics is about in a democratic society, and must be about, is which candidate will have a positive impact on your lives. >> reporter: sanders is trying to rally young voters to support clinton in iowa where early voting is already under way. and clinton has been trailing trump in the polls. >> we don't want anyone to sit out and stay home. >> reporter: chelsea clinton also in the hawkeye state. but her dad is in hot water after saying this about obamacare. >> all of a sudden 25 million more people have health care and then the people are out there busting it sometimes 60 hours a week, wind up with their premiums doubled and their coverage cut in half. it's the craziest thing in the world. >> that's not what democrats want to hear from the man president obama once called -- >> secretary of explaining stuff.
>> reporter: today in ohio, bill clinton tried to walk it back. >> there are problems with it. and everybody knows it. the republicans want to repeal the law. their idea of solving the problem is to take 20 million people who got insurance and take it away from them. give it all back to the insurance companies again. hillary's idea is recognize what the problem is. >> reporter: donald trump is seizing on the assessment of president obama's signature docume domestic achievement. >> you read bill clinton's comments about how horrible obamacare. he's right. he'll probably have to pivot and go back. >> reporter: campaign manager kellyanne conway making it clear it will come up at the next debate. >> it's a huge issue that's been left on the table in these debates. bill clinton is now our best surrogate. thinking of having him in the spin room with us in st. louis. >> reporter: in the final five
weeks before election day, the clinton campaign has all of her big-name surrogates on the campaign trail helping her. president obama was supposed to be in miami today. that was postponed due to hurricane matthew. he is scheduled to hit the trail next week in north carolina and ohio. and former vice president al gore will also be on the campaign trail soon. >> new addition, al gore, on the trail. brianna keilar, thank you very much. joining us adam kinzinger. republican congressman of illinois. you've adamantly refused to endorse or support donald trump. did governor pence's performance last night impact you at all to change your mind? >> no, not yet. he did a great job, though. it was an amazing chance to hear people ma turl, to an extent, talk about issues that are important. you had bipartisan agreement that we have to do more in syria than what's been done. that aleppo is a tragedy. that we have an ability to do
some things. i thought governor pence performed really well. if i'm donald trump i'm taking lessons from now pence performed and the rave reviews he got. >> if pence were at the top of the ticket would you vote for that? >> in a heartbeat. i served with pence for a couple years in the house. fantastic guy. has his head in the right spot. if he should ever be called upon to be president, i think he would do a fantastic job. >> speaking of syria. you raised the issue. this is mike pence last night at the debate saying the u.s. should be prepared to use military force against the syrian government if russia doesn't supporting assad's regime. listen to this. >> provocations by russia need to be met with american strength. and if russia chooses to be involved and continue, i should say, to be involved in this barbaric attack on civilians in aleppo the united states of america should be prepared to use military force to strike
military targets of the assad regime, to prevent them from this humanitarian crisis that is taking place in aleppo. >> so you just heard him suggest that maybe the u.s. should use military force against russia even in syria. do you agree with him? >> i think it's essential that we enact a cost on the regime for violating the ceasefire. we have to have an "or else" in order to negotiate the next ceasefire. i think it's essential. what people fail to realize, this just isn't about humanitarianism in syria. that's tragic and compelling in and of itself. this is about the mass migration of people out of the middle east into europe where now you have a rise of these nationalistic parties. you had brexit. it's affecting the wheel gole geopolitical sphere. we didn't attack syria and it's
gotten worse beyond our wildest nightmares. >> you listen is to donald trump over the last months and listen to pence last night, they seemed to be on syria at least on different tracks. >> i noticed that too. >> and trump, whether it's pushing back on russia, striking assad, i hope donald trump mirrors that and means it on sunday. if he doesn't, that's very concerning to me. but i thought what pence said yesterday was emblem aatic of where america needs to be. cain agreed. >> this could start a larger war with russia. are you ready for that? >> i think the russians, if they know we're serious, are not interested to starting a war with us. they have an economy the size of italy, an economy far inferior to ours. they are willing to push to where there is a stop. there will be a no-fly zone. look, we're going to strike regime targets. if they happen to get into the
middle of it it's a decision they make. not a decision we're making. >> pence said we should be prepared to work with others to establish safe zones in syria where refugees and humanitarian assistance could be provided. that could be potentially dangerous too. >> it could be. you have the turks doing this by de facto. when the turkish military moved into syria, you have a little bit of safe zones being established now. it will take probably american and western air power. look, there are our friends over the region begging for us to do something and alleviate the crisis. they'll be willing to do a lot of the military action too. nobody -- i've never heard anybody in five years advocate for 100,000 military in syria. the cost of inaction is beyond what we can imagine and further inaction will only get worse. >> there is considerable difference in the words pence uses as far as putin is concerned and the words of trump. trump calls him a strong leader. pence last night called him a
small and bullying leader. i assume you agree with pence. >> i do. >> how do you explain the fact that the presidential nominee on the republican ticket, the vice presidential nominee on the republican ticket, they express these different views? >> i don't know. this is what donald trump will have to explain it. we'll see what he says on sunday. i'm sure he'll be asked about this. this is why i have been reluctant to support the ticket, because of the concern with russia and what's going on in syria and foreign policy. we don't want more people to get nukes and everything else. all eyes on the debate on sunday. donald trump has an opportunity to mirror pence's language and win back support and gain in the polls. if he doesn't i fear it will continue as it is. >> we're following breaking news. new details on another alleged case of a high-ranking u.s. military contractor stealing allegedly secrets from the national security agency here in
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secrets. some classified at the highest levels. among the information the fbi believes he stole were documents detailing a sophisticated hacking tool that the nsa developed to break into foreign computer systems. a couple of months ago, the computer code for the tool show upp up on the ind net. someone called the shadow brokers offering it for sale online. the code dates back a few years. it's not the latest technology but still considered highly sensitive. the fbi raided martin's home in august and he was arrested then but the arrest was only made public today. cnn caught up to his wife outside his home in the d.c. suburbs. listen to what she had to say. >> he is a good man. that's all i can really tell you, okay. i would greatly appreciate it if you guys would respect my privacy and respect my family's privacy and that's all i'm going to say, okay. i am going to get the rest of my groceries in the house. >> sure. >> okay? thanks so much. >> you said he was a good man?
>> i said i love him very much and he is a good man. >> reporter: martin worked, wolf, as a contractor for booz allen hamilton. he had a top secret security clearance. booz allen being the same contractor who employed edward snowden who carried out one of the biggest leaks of american government secrets. so far investigators don't think he was working for a foreign government but it's still something the fbi is looking at right now. his attorneys issued a statement this afternoon that reads in part, quote, there is no evidence that how martin betrayed his country. what we know is that mr. martin loves his family and america. he served his nation honorably in the u.s. navy was a lieutenant and has devoted his entire career to making america safe. wolf, this is another major blow to the nsa which has been working to rebuild its reputation after the snowden leaks.
they've been doing a lot of work to try to prevent things like this, the so-called insider threat. >> thank you, evan prez. back with adam kizeninger of illinois. you know a lot of classified information. you served in the air force. you served in iraq and afghanistan. the nsa, which is the pinnacle of u.s. intelligence capabilities, electronic intelligence, once again apparently something like this could happen. how do you explain it? >> i can't explain it. it angers me. after the snowden stuff. when it's all found out what snowden has stolen, which i know a lot of it. it's not all declassified yet. it was a lot and it was extremely damaging. the people who have this idea, whether they're working for a foreign government or are on a one-man crusade that they're going to determine american fortune policy by going onto a computer and downloading something and releasing it to crazies on the internet, that is wrong and bad and needs to stop. whatever it takes for the
contractor or the government to ensure this doesn't happen. we cannot continue creating things necessary for state craft, which is very important for what we do for protecting americans, leaked on the internet. >> you think there are more snowdens out there serving in the u.s. government? >> i didn't think so until today when we found out about this arrest. there easily could be. we need a top-down and bottom-up look at clearances, the access people have and making sure the wrong people don't have access to the wrong stuff. >> i want to play a controversial clip. donald trump said this the other day about u.s. military personnel who come back from iraq and afghanistan and have real serious post traumatic stress problems. listen to this. >> when you talk about the mental health problems, when people come back from war and combat and they see things that maybe a lot of the be folks in this room have seen many times over and you're strong and you can handle it but a lot of people can't handle it. >> a lot of people can't handle
it. what was your reaction when you heard that? >> my initial reaction wasn't good. obviously i thought it was a very inartful way to say it. then when i thought about it -- i have been critical of donald trump, we know that. i think that was something that i don't necessarily put on him as meaning that he thinks there are weak veterans out there. i am not going to hit him as hard as maybe some would on that. you should clarify it, come back and say he didn't mean that, i'm not going to hit him as hard as some out there would. >> i know you'll be going on active duty soon. wish you the best of luck. thank you so much. congressman adam kizeninger of illinois. >> thank you. coming up, now that the runs mates set the stage, the political experts look ahead to what we can expect in sunday's debate rematch between hillary clinton and donald trump. plus, breaking news with mandatory evacuations under way. the latest forecasts are coming in as hurricane matthew threatens tens of millions of people along the u.s. coast.
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breaking news. we're following, we're getting in the updated forecast on hurricane matthew. this powerful, deadly storm is threatening tens of millions of people in florida, georgia, and the carolinas. within the past hour florida officials ordered more mandatory evacuations. we'll have more details in just a few moments. we're also watching important developments on the presidential campaign trail today as donald trump and hillary clinton head toward their second crucial debate this sunday night here on cnn. let's bring in our political experts. david chalian. in the debate last night, the cnn/orc poll, 48% of those who watched the debate said governor
pence was the winner. did his performance really boost donald trump's chances of getting the presidency? >> it's a good question. he was clearly the winner in terms of style and presentation. i think that was clear across the board. if you look deeper into our poll, wolf, you find the majority of people who were watching the debate actually said they weren't swayed either way because of the debate. i don't think the debate itself moves the needle. but it accomplished something important for donald trump last night which was sort of stabilizing what was a terrible week of a bit of a tail-spin. stabilizing and giving hope to people like adam kinzinger or other people you've spoken to to think there may be something to get on board with. he gave calm and ease to conservatives, but i don't think there is anything he could have done to make sunday easier for donald trump. i think sunday is a big moment for his campaign. >> he was very aggressive. he interrupted pence a lot of times.
how successful was that strategy? >> it certainly came across to a lot of people as jarring because he was a little bit frenetic because he was so determined to get his points in, that he did interrupt a lot. however, that was a big part of the strategy going in. to do just that. we were talking about it before the debate. we were reporting on the fact that the main goal of the clinton campaign was for tim kaine to shine the light on what they considered daylight between mike pence and donald trump with one important goal, to continue to paint donald trump as not ready to be president, out of the mainstream, even by conservative standards from their point of view. so, if that was their goal, then there was success. despite the fact that kaine sort of fell on the sword a little bit with regard to his performance because, as those of us who know and have covered tim kaine, that was not tim kaine. >> rebecca. pence according to our poll, he won the debate, but he also
contradicted donald trump, his boss on several key issues. let me play a few of them. >> donald trump, during this campaign, has called mexicans rapists and criminals. >> he also said and many of them are good people. you keep leaving that out of your quote. >> when mexico sends its people, they're not sending their best. they're bringing drugs. they're bringing crime. they're rapists. some, i assume are good people. >> more nations should get nuclear weapons. try to defend that. >> he never said that senator. >> he absolutely said it. saudi arabia, south korea and japan. >> wouldn't you rather, in a certain sense have japan have nuclear weapons when north korea has nuclear weapons. >> you have no problem with japan having nuclear weapons. >> we have to say we're better off if japan can protect it civil. we're better off if jausaudi ara
can protect itself? >> he said inarguably vladimir putin is a better leader than -- >> that's inaccurate. >> i think it's inarguable that vladimir putin has been a stronger leader in his country than barack obama has been in this country. >> i think putin has been a very strong leader for russia. he has been a lot stronger than our leader. that i can tell you. >> donald trump and i would never support legislation that punished women who made the heart-breaking choice to end a pregnancy. >> do you believe in punishment for abortion yes or no as a principle? >> the answer is there has to be some form of punishment for the woman. >> these guys have said it. deportation force. they want to go house to house, school to school, business to business and kick out 16 million people. >> that's nonsense. >> are you going to have a massive deportation force? >> we're going to have a deportation force. >> so these contradictions, does
it hurt trump? we just saw the little collection? >> what's been so tricky about donald trump for this whole campaign has been that he's usually inconsistent on a lot of these issues. he'll say things featured in that very compelling montage but then he'll say something totally different. depending on the situation he can point to whatever is most politically convenient for him, and that's sort of what mike pence was doing in this debate. i am sure there are other remarks donald trump has made or he has made that he could point to to back up what he said in the debate. but that's also one of the major problems with donald trump's campaign is that he is so politically and verbally fluid that no one can really know what he means. and so fortunately for mike pence, it's open to interpretation. he can choose his favorite donald trump position. but that makes it difficult for voters. >> jamie, you have been talking to republican insiders. what are they telling you about pence's performance? >> what's interesting is he may be a little too much of a good thing.
my mailbox was flooded this morning. i reached out to these are veteran gop establishment people, all of whom have said they will vote for donald trump. when i said, what did you think of the debate last night? pence, 2016, exclamation point. they stole jeb's exclamation point. i said do you mean 2020 that he's working on? no, no, no, no, no. if only he were at the top of the ticket. they think he is the mvp. they were relieved. they were thrilled. we don't know how donald trump will feel about him getting such good reviews. >> pretty amazing. >> stay with us. we have a lot more to come up. everyone stay with us. we'll take a quick break. i want to ask about donald trump's newly scheduled town hall in new hampshire. is this the best way for him to practice for sunday's second presidential debate? the updated forecast on hurricane matthew also ahead, which is now threatening tens of millions of americans.
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we're back with our political experts as we follow the presidential candidates' preparations for their crucial second debate this sunday night right here on cnn. you can watch it live here, 9:00 p.m. eastern. donald trump is holding rallies in nevada today, but he just added a town hall tomorrow in new hampshire to his campaign schedule. sunday's debate also is a town hall. dana, what are you hearing? how is donald trump preparing to
launch a fresh round of attacks against hillary clinton? >> just in terms of the performance aspect, which, as we learned last night, preparation does matter. it makes a big difference because pence worked very hard on it. but donald trump, i am told, cannot and will not be convinced to change his prep and the way that he does it. and so, he is not going to do a mock debate. he is not going to have a formal person playing hillary clinton. it's just not going to happen. he runs the debate room -- the debate prep room, a conference room sitting around the table, and that's it. so, as much as they could do with him was this issue that they're going to do tomorrow night. when i say issue, it's a real town hall, in public, in front of real voters. and it's going to be done at the area that chris christie started his campaign in new hampshire in 2016. because chris christie basically lived in new hampshire all year and used the town hall to connect with voters.
he didn't get very far but he used it. a town hall is an art. and donald trump doesn't have the experience doing it. they're hoping this will help. >> it is amazing when you think about it. any presidential candidate that gets to this point usually has done a ton of town halls. donald trump, even things that were billed as town halls during the nomination season were not traditional town halls. they were basically smaller rallies. so learning how to be empathetic with a voter, listen to their question or their story and respond to that, that's not something that donald trump has had a ton of experience doing at all. so that is something you do want to practice before you go into this different venue. because i think sunday's debate, just because the format is different, will create a totally different tenor to it than their last debate at hofstra. >> what are you hearing, jamie? you're well plugged into some of the republican sources about his preparation, what he should be doing for this big debate? >> they're all hoping that he will do everything dana just said he won't do.
they want him to be -- there was an old michael jordan dergscomml a long, long time ago. be like mike. they want him to be like mike pence in this case. they want him to prepare. they want him to be disciplined. number one, they don't want him to take the bait because they know she's going to go after him over and over again. and one thing, i spoke to six different people, all experienced veterans. they all said at the end of talking to me, they don't think he's capable of doing any of those things. >> rebecca, you wrote an important article that just came out and is causing quite a buzz. a lot of his supporters wanted to go out and attack the bill and hillary clinton foundation on sunday. you wrote an article, and you got new reporting, how donald trump has used his own foundation to at least set the stage for his political ambition. tell our viewers what you learned. >> that's right. well, i learned that from 2011 through 2014 and 2011 is when
trump really started to become politically active, toy with running for president, he used his own foundation, his charitable foundation, to send almost $300,000 to conservative policy groups. which in turn helped to raise his political profile. now, i talked with sources on both sides of this, on the trump side and also on the conservative group side, who told me that this was intentional. it was strategic donations. he wanted to raise his political profile. curry favor with these groups, potentially get speaking engagements at their events, which he ultimately did. events like cpac or the citizens united summits across the battleground states. and so it gave him this early political cache that he wouldn't have had otherwise in 2013 and 2014. none of us thought of him as a viable presidential candidate but he started showing up at these political events and it all started with donations from his foundation that was funded by other people, not by donald
trump. interesting. >> how big of a blunder was it for bill clinton to suggest that president obama's affordable care act, obamacare, his great legacy achievement, in his words, i'm paraphrasing. craziest thing ever. very critical of features of the obamacare program. >> you know it's a big blunder when bill clinton had to go out back out there this morning and say i was in favor of that legislation. it's a blundser. it's an opening. it's a red-meat issue for republicans. so donald trump -- bill clinton gave trump a huge opening. remember in 2012 the obama campaign called bill clinton the secretary of explaining things. and he explained the criticisms of obamacare really well this week. not to his wife's advantage. so i think that it's an opening. the trump campaign is using it. i don't think it's drucrushing her candidacy or will knock her off course. you talked to john podesta yesterday. he had to dance all over it. >> the hillary clinton campaign
chair. you know donald trump will use this against hillary clinton sunday night. >> he is already using it on the campaign trail. okay, we say he is not practicing. that is one area where he is kind of practicing his lines that are written in the teleprompter for him about bill clinton. why wouldn't he? we've been talking about it since bill clinton said what he said, that, you know, he had maybe a moment of candor, maybe he kind of forgot where he was in the political calendar, in the political world, that it's actually a democratic president whose health care plan the democrats want to say they want to build on, not destroy. as you said, he cleaned it up. >> he didn't say he wants to destroy it. he said it was the craziest thing. he used that word "crazy" twice, i know from talking to people. white house officials, hillary clinton campaign officials, all deeply disappointed in what he said. breaking news. the national hurricane center updated the forecast for hurricane matthew. tens of millions of american are
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breaking news. a newly updated forecast shows hurricane matthew heading for florida and the southeastern coast. this is a powerful, deadly storm with 120-mile-an-hour sustained winds. roads and highways already are clogged with traffic. there are more mandatory evacuations that could be ordered. florida's governor says this may force the largest evacuation in the state's history. let's bring in our meteorologist
jennifer gray. jennifer, where is the greatest danger? >> right now, the greatest danger is in the bahamas. but the next step is that southeast coast, the florida coastline, up and down the georgia, south carolina, and north carolina coasts. so right now, winds of 120 miles per hour. wolf, this is still a category 3 storm, gusts of 150, moving to the northwest at 12. on the latest forecast track, this could actually strengthen even more over the bahamas, becoming a category 4 by the time we get into thursday afternoon. and you can see that forecast track that has shifted to the west, we could be talking about a landfall in florida right along the space coast or a storm just offshore. whether it makes landfall or brushes by is going to make the biggest difference, because hurricane force winds, the strangest winds are right around the center, and then they will fan out from there. but they extend out of the center of the storm by about 30
to 45 miles. so if it shifts a little further to the east, that would be best case scenario. a little further to the west, then devastating consequences up and down the florida coast. it's expected to bend back to the north and east, and then a lot of uncertainty once we get into the beginning part of next week. some models bring it back around, hinting at maybe some around florida and other models are taking it out to sea. so it's going to be something, we're really going to watch. but we always talk about, wolf, these models that don't agree very much, they are agreeing right now. the european model right now, the center right around cape canaveral, and then the american model right there, as well. so wolf, i think we're very confident, at least for the next three days, where this storm is going to head. wolf? >> jennifer, we'll stay in close touch with you. coming up, donald trump looks for momentum going into sunday's rematch with hillary clinton. we're standing by with his next
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