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good evening and get ready with shock waves still rumbling from las vegas. moments away from what could be another seismic event. donald trump and hillary clinton sharing the spotlight this evening in manhattan. each will be speaking one after the other at the alfred b. smith memorial dinner for catholic charities in the area. guests are eating now. then at top of the hour, the two candidates are expected to speak, gently poking fun at one another and especially at themselves. that is the idea anyway. donald trump is not known for gentle or self-deprecating, speak first then secretary clinton. they didn't shake hands last night. one verbal jab after another at each other. called her a nasty woman.
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and we wait for what could be fireworks. we look ahead to tonight and get back to the debate including the headline making moment when trump would pledge not to accept the elections outcome. today he made head lines again with this as cnn's jason carroll reports. >> i would like to promise and pledge to all of my voters and supporters, and to all of the people of the united states that i will totally accept the results of this great and historic presidential election if i win. >> reporter: that pledge as donald trump has raised unfounded concerns about widespread voter fraud. >> we want fairness in the election. >> reporter: campaigning today in ohio trump said he would accept the result, if it was clear. >> of course i would accept a clear election result. but i would also reserve my
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right to contest or file a legal challenge in the case of a questionable result. >> the gop nominee's comments come hours after he refused to say whether he would respect the verdict from voters on november 8th. >> not saying you are necessarily going to be the lose ore the winner but that the loser concedes to the win asker -- winner and the country comes together in part for the o good of the country. are you saying you are not prepared to do that? >> i'm tell you at the time. i'm keep you in suspense. >> reporter: trump's debate seen as more disciplined than the previous two meetings with clinton but still at times relying on personal attack, interrupting clinton during her response to a question about social security. >> my social security, payroll contribution will go up as will donald's assuming he can't figure out how to get out of it. but what we want to do -- >> such nasty woman. >> -- replenish the trust fund.
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>> reporter: comments that could hurt trump's efforts to chip away at clinton's vacuum of women in the polls. as trump continues to face the fallout of accusations of sexual misconduct, trump denying the allegations again wednesday night and suggesting without proof that clinton and her campaign might be behind them. >> because those stories are all totally false. i have to say that. and i didn't even apologize to my wife who's sitting right here because i didn't do anything. i think they want either fame or her campaign did it. and i think it is her campaign. >> in regards to trump not necessarily accepting the results of the election that is not flying with the rest of the gop right? >> not at all. he's under fire by many members of the gop. take look at north carolina. he'll be there campaigning tomorrow and fletcher just outside of asheville. the executive director of the gop party there releasing a statement basically explaining
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his displeasure. saying quote we at north carolina republican party are not aware of election results being optional. also take a look at someone like main's governor, paul lepage who's been a huge trump supporter. a man known for making his own controversial statements. saying as the stupid comment. he went on to say "get over yourself." it is just a another sign that there are more members of the gop simply losing patience with trump. >> thanks for reporting. as for hillary clinton, she had a quieter day. devoted it seems to not making headlines perhaps from here on out. instead as brianna keilar reports she's taking a victory lap of sorts while high-powered surrogates hit the trail. >> reporter: reveling this her third and final debate with donald trump. >> feeling both relieved and very grateful that more
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-- no more debates. >> reporter: a jab at trump for accusing her of resting instead of preparing while she was off the campaign trail for days. that was the case again today as she leaned on high profile surrogates to rally voters. president obama in miami. >> you can reject somebody who proves himself unfit to be president every single day in every single way. >> reporter: vice president joe biden in new hampshire. >> either he's so stupid that he doesn't understand -- no no, it's possible. no really. it is possible he doesn't understand the damage he's doing. >> no idea. >> -- 17. >> reporter: and clinton did her best to inflict damage last night by landing one little jab after the other. >> the wall donald talks about building. he went to mexico. he had a meeting with the mexican president. didn't even raise it. he choked. >> i sat in my apartment today, in a very beautiful hotel down the street known as trump -- >> made with chinese steel. >> reporter: and saw a huge opportunity in trump's refusal
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to say he'd accept the outcome of the election. calling it horrifying. >> every time i donald sees things not going in his direction he claims whatever it is is rigged against him. he's talking down our democracy and i for one am appalled that someone who is the nominee of one of our two major parties would take that kind of position. >> clinton's campaign thinks trump made a fatal mistake and they will be talking about it until election day. >> to suggest that he will not concede despite losing the vote. and then says today that he will accept the results if he wins? that is -- that is not a joking matter. no no, i want everybody to pay attention here. that is dangerous. >> any word what to expect from hillary clinton at tonight's dinner?
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going to bring our viewers both clinton and trump live. >> reporter: her campaign is being tight-lipped. but we do know she's speaking second. that's something that could affect how all of this plays out. since we know donald trump really likes to counterpunch, he's not necessarily going to have that opportunity tonight. we heard al smith, iv, the host of this dinner saying he had encouraged civility. told a joke opening up the dinner and said donald trump had gone up to hillary clinton and said how are you doing? and she said i'm fine. now get out of the ladies dressing room. something both candidates haed a chuckle at. but keep in mind they didn't even shake hands backstage. photo receiving line, both part of it and didn't shake hands. so it is really up in the air about what we are going to see tonight when the acrimony between them is very real. i was on the plane last night with hillary clinton and one of her aids said to me after no hand shaking at debate enough is
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enough. you just draw a line. >> you heard what president obama said about a rigged election. you might imagine trump supporters see things differently. report. >> reporter: in the final stretch to november th trump's backers seem em bold bd by the candidate's toughening talk. >> i think could make a difference. >> reporter: they want a change and aren't bothered by trump's refusal during the debate to say he absolutely accepts the outcome of the election. >> it is rigged. >> he said a rigged election. everybody knows there's been things in all elections but he didn't say -- he said wait to see what the results are. he's not going to go i'm going to do this or that before it's even done. >> reporter: and him saying that is okay with you? >> actually we love it. >> of course i would accept a clear election result. but i would also reserve my right to contest or file a legal
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challenge in the case of a questionable result. >> reporter: trump's supporters back him up. >> i think he said he's not going accept it the night or the day after until he sees what happens. >> reporter: but you are optimistic he'll eventually accept it. >> i think so. so what if he doesn't? if she still wins she wins. >> i think if does lose which he's not going to, will have it investigated and if they come one positive proof i think he'll accept it gracefully. >> reporter: trump's repeated rallying cry of a rigged election also seems to be dividing his supporters. some say the rhetoric is troubling. >> i think he should say yea i'll support the person elected. >> and are you hoping he'll change his tune because he didn't say that last night. >> i hope he'll change his tune. which he does once in a while. >> reporter: and others are fired up and buying into the
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unproven voter fraud allegations. >> only because we see that hillary rigged the primary. if she rigged the primary against sanders, why wouldn't she rig it against trump? >> definitely. >> reporter: you think so even though statistics show they aren't rigged and there is very small chances of voter fraud. >> not true at all. they are putting voters out that are illegals. they are not legal to vote. they are signing up people that should not be on the roles. >> reporter: so you think it's okay donald trump is continually talking about the supposed rigged election? >> it is rigged. without a doubt. >> reporter: secretary of state came forward and said hey mr. trump it is not rigged. i control the elections here in ohio. >> maybe not in ohio but i know in other states. >> seems like some people are troubled by trump's talk. why do they look past it? >> reporter: anderson many of the people i spoke with acknowledge donald trump is not
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perfect but they relish the fact that he's not a polished politician. the people i spoke with out here say their anger for washington d.c. is more pervasive than anything and they do think that donald trump is the only person who can shake it all up. >> jessica schneider, thank you very much. let's bring in the panel. clinton supporter and phillip, donald trump saying he'd accept the results if he he would accept the results if he wins, kind of making a joke about it. do you think this will resonate for a while? >> i think this challenge will be through election day. he tried to walk back a little bit today. saying he reserved the right to file a challenge or whatever. which of course any candidate
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can do if there is actually a challenge to be filed. but he's spent weeks talking about how the polls are rigged and in fact the polls show he's losing quite badly and he's spend a lot of time how talk election is rigged and vote fraud and there's no evidence of. can't reiterate that enough. the entire campaign is his own base of support. he's made no overtures to anyone else. there is this insular community which agrees with everything he's saying and he has the opportunity to say to these folks after that this is rigged without any evidence. >> do you think he helped matters today by making that joke? >> in the conservative community. although i was plane bound for a while i tried to tap in and see what was going on there. and they really think this it is mainstream media obsessing over this one line in the speech. of course if you think you've been cheated of election you reserve the right to do something about it. i raise the obvious as other people have come forward and raised the al gore thing. that is what al gore did.
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he did. he protested the election. >> after the election. >> but the question is if donald trump loses big on election night is he going to make the allegation that there was wide spread voter fraud resulting in millions of votes? >> we'd have to wait and see. it would help if there were fact, right? but again i'd have to disagree with my friend phil here. in fact there's been evidence of voter fraud in american history. lots of times. i documented myself 57,000 registrations rejected by the city of philadelphia -- the county of philadelphia in 2008 for forging social security number, using dead people. etc. etc. >> in 2012 the state of pennsylvania's republican governor admitted in legal affidavit there have been no examples of voter fraud -- >> i assure you. decided to let loose inner drew griffin and i'll be checking here in pennsylvania and i'll get back to you. >> but you don't buy what he
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just said? >> i do not. >> government official under oath basically said there was no voter fraud. i think that is the kind of thing that we have to accept. i mean that is a statement under oath by a government official. but -- anyway. let's set the al gore thing aside for a second. right now in this presidential election what we're seeing is donald trump losing. when he was winning everything was great. now he's losing. and we're seeing what a schoolyard bully does when he starts to lose. they whine and whine and lash out at others. so it is very unprofessional. very unpresidential, undignified behavior and bad for our democracy, but it is not surprising because everybody know he's a bully and he's acting like a bully and whining. >> to her point donald trump has himself said when the polls show i'm winning i like the polls and i talk about the polls when the polls show i'm not i don't mention them. i don't buy it. >> it's been very rare we show
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polls that actually show him winning. in the primary no way he can get 40%. he'll never get a majority. and he'll never win. and as soon as all the candidates drop out and republicans can unify against anybody but him they will beat him too. i've heard about these polls that he never can win. he's been beat down the whole i'm and every time it's been can we get one thing extrapolate it and pound pound instead of actually engaging in conversation that took place in the debate -- >> we talked about positive polls all the time in the primaries. i remember doing interviews with donald trump and in fact he would insist on starting out the interviews by having everybody acknowledge how well he's doing in the polls. so pretty much -- >> and he let in the polls from july 17th through the primaries three days. >> even if he challenges as an american he has that right. but what effect is it going to have? zero. it is not going change anything. >> that's not true. as a former elected official you have to appreciate the fact that the democracy reflects on
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the people's confidence that the majority rule carries the day. and this is casting doubt on the idea that the majority's -- >> we have election experts who have debunked this. and we have 30 republican governors in this country. right? so it is beyond the pale that he would continue to do this and one thing i wanted to add as well is the last couple of weeks he's been talking about inner cities, and chicago and philly which is also incredibly dangerous rhetoric because what that is is voter intimidation. you are leading to unrest on the day of the i election and taking us back to the 1950s and 60s and this also is very dangerous. the third thing i want to say is where's the leadership, the republican leadership. where is paul ryan in this? he's a constitutional officer and second in line to being president of the united states right after joe biden and it is his responsibility to also come out. >> the al smith dinner, which we're going
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to be showing live donald trump and hillary clinton because it is the last time, probably the last time they are going to be on a stage together face to face essentially. you have been at this dinner multiple times christen i want to play a joke earlier that one of the speakers kind you have gave. not that she didn't tell it well or anything but let's just play it. >> before the dinner started donald went up to hillary and asked her how she was doing. and she replied "i'm fine, now get out of the ladies dressing room." it is interesting to see how they will relate to each other or don't relate to each other. and told they didn't shake hands backstage. and it is supposed to be telling seve deprecating jokes about yourself as well as the other person. >> i've been to many of these and in the obama/mccain year,
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mccain was way funnier than obama. he killed it up there. but usually the candidates put a ton of work into this. have a professional comedy writer who helps them. they take it really serious and you are as the candidate themselves are as much a target as the opponent. so a question tonight is going to be, you know, given all they have both been through can either even pretend to be funny even and can donald trump make any jokes about himself but it is really as you can see by the days and stuff it is a microscope room. they are going to have to think about their face or just not the whole time. because you are watch -- i was always in the back row, like the top of it. and i i'll never forget i got a text from my wife saying get off your blackberry, you are at the al smith dinner and i was a at the back. microscope. >> we're going take a break. and bring you donald trump and hillary clinton when they speak live coming up. also next donald trump says he'll accept the results if he wins. question is what are the chance of that?
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get closer to what could be another clash tonight between hillary clinton and donald trump. each speaking tonight at charity dinner. whether be charitable toward each other remains to be seen. what's clear is what each candidate faces on the electoral map and while it might change for better or worse, right now it is distinctly better for one than the other. inside politics anchor john king joins us to break it down by the numbers. >> look at swhere candidates wee today. donald trump in ohio. and no one ever won without winning ohio. donald trump knows he needs to win it. the path to 270. going into this debate we already have secretary clinton winning in a lopsided way.
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her goal protect what you have. her campaign thinks you come out of the debate with even more momentum than going in. the trump campaign disputes that. we'll see. we'll know by the weekend. but look at the map right now. donald trump was here. makes sense. he's got to win ohio. president obama down here. this was the biggest change we made yesterday in terms of numbers. vice president biden is a small but important blue collar battleground in the state of new hampshire. tim kaine was here in north carolina. democrats want to take it back. romney won it in 2012 and obama in '08. it is very close. he was focusing there and you also had the first lady out there, the democrats think they can stretch what already is a significant clinton advantage out here. watch the people on the campaign trail. get a sense of the key priorities going forward. no question at the moment clear momentum for hillary clinton and the democrats. >> you also get a sense john just of the bench, the deep bench that hillary clinton has to call on to have primary players in all of these states. what are the one our two states to watch as a test towards any progress towards a donald trump
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comeback? >> and that bench makes such a huge difference because she can stay down today. making phone calls or preparing for the speech tonight. but with the president, first lady, vice president, senator sanders, senator kaine. but what's one or two states to watch? number one. donald trump 72% more mitt romney in utah. if he can't get the ruby red state, game over. so watch polling the next several days. are they moving back to trump sf if not, game over. if you want to watch one state from here on out. donald trump can't win without the 29 in the state of florida. if you want to watch one state watch there. on this point i'm a contraryian. how many months have i said stop asking me about national polls they don't matter in a presidential race? in this they do at the moment. hillary clinton has a 8 point lead nationally. if this stays, don't have to go state by state this tells you it is a blow out. if you see this go back to a three point race then it is time
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to go state by state beginning in places like florida. >> did anything surprise you by either of the campaign's targeting today? >> one as the head scratcher. the trump campaign does this from time to time. mike pence was out in nevada and went from vegas to reno. makes perfect sense. but then he went to new mexico. the democrats won it by ten points last time. 15 points in 2008. as the democratic state. we asked why, they said because he was out west. well, utah is out west arizona is out west. why did he go to new mexico? head scratching anderson. >> thanks john king. when you see john king's latest numbers, they do speak for themselves. is there something? what can donald trump do to try to get back some of these states to kind of reverse the trend? >> i don't have an answer to that question. there is 19 days left. donald trump has had the map working against him basically the entire campaign. he's come close during the national numbers for a while. lead for hillary clinton has grown again.
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there is no indication right now that he is going to be able to rebuild the support with republicans and independents that he's lost over the past couple of weeks to help him make sure arizona is safely red and help him win ohio or florida. no indication he's actually doing what the campaign needs do besides having big rallies and tweeting and that is clearly not doing it. >> jeffrey lord, what do you see the democrats doing? that other folks don't? >> i think tomorrow he'll be in johnstown, pennsylvania. which is where he should be to carry pennsylvania. discussing i'm sure trade issues and coal which is very important in that section of pennsylvania. and as you know she's been out of there saying she in essence wants to take coal miners jobs from them etc. this is having an effect there. so he's going there and i'm sure he's going to be coming back again. >> well you look at the map. >> right. but this is how you have to do it. state by state by state. you have to target your issues and your states and go in there and get this job done. and that is what he's doing. and bring the message all together. the kind of message that was talked about in the debate.
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the disparate parts of it. the elites versus the e american people etc. tie that in with the fbi and state department and all these things, the wikileaks stuff. >> hasn't he been doing this? >> yeah but now this is closing argument time and he needs to take all of his arguments and summarize them and go where he should go. >> but the fact -- i would argue the fact that he -- ohio is so close. >> yeah exactly. >> that pennsylvania is where it's at. if donald trump really had any hope of winning he would be blowing it out in ohio. he would be strong in pennsylvania. those are places he is now weak. he is not winning and that is a real sign he might be able to scurry -- >> how many times has he been counted out this year? >> at some point, you know, i'll give you that in the primaries and everybody counted him out and unfortunately he prevailed in my opinion. but this is a very different race. a two-person race against hillary clinton who is no joke. it is 19 days away. we might be watching a catholic
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dinner but there are no miracles like that in politics. this is over and you see that in his attempts to salvage a couple of the working class states he should win and that doesn't speak to strength. it speaks to weakness. >> a couple of things he's not going win in pennsylvania because of philly and philly suburbs and he's hemorrhaging with college-educated whites both male and female. pennsylvania is off -- literally off the play. here is what's happening. she is expanding in traditional red states and he is defending romney states. that is a problem. that is not where you want to be 19 days out. and so this is does not -- the map looks terrible for him. we're talking about utah, arizona. heck, texas. 38 electoral votes in texas. >> do you think the votes are -- polls are not accurate? one argument trump supporters have been making for a long time is that there is hidden enthusiasm that is not represented in the polls. there is a lot of enthusiasm we
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see at the rallies and there are voters out there who are not represented. >> well i think the polls are calling the historical people that they always call. i haven't gotten a call yet. not one. so i think there are a lot of folks. >> they may have filled in yours and my card. just saying. >> i do think there is a brexit out there. how big? i'm almost positive there is a brexit out there. i don't know how big but you asked jeffrey earlier about what he can do. he talked about term limits. so many people republican and democrat that are fed up with the people who go up to washington and never leave. things like that that across the board gets moderates. he needs to hammer. >> that was one of the things. the drain the swamp thing. didn't even mention it last night at the debate. 1 of those opportunities that was kind of missed. >> and i did. i thought that was a missed opportunity because those -- this is now those middle voters. those swing voters. anytime you talk about the
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corrupt d.c. cartel and getting the bums out, that is a winner and he needs to hammer home those things. >> if i was on the trump side i would also say that is a missed opportunity. but the fact that donald trump in these debates can't land his lines, can't land the blows shows that if he can't even follow debate prep and instruction. >> but he did land a blow -- >> -- how is he going to be able to really lead and be in tough negotiations. >> but after about 40 minutes. there is a time limit on him. it does seem. because you would argue did very well in the first debate in the beginning. arguably in the second debate when he was very aggressive. even in this debate but then like she starts to like just poke at him. mentions his dad gave him $14 million which he denies and then that begins the problem. >> right. i mean, i don't know what to say about that. i think he's -- i thought -- i genuinely thought he had a very good debate and the things frustrating for trump supporters.
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he turned to her and challenged her, why don't you give the money back from saudis and groups like -- countries like this that have such horrific record like this with gays and women? she just blew it off. >> that is called debating and if he was better prepared he could have followed up. >> and similarly to what he does when people ask about his taxes. but i want to go back to what andre said about polls for a moment. one of the things that gives me, you know, positive feelings about the polls is he never broke 40 in the primaries. even when he was winning he never broke 40. we're seeing the same kind of numbers now. high to mid 30s. so there tracks a consistency of who he can get and no more. >> we're going pick up the conversation shortly. and body language in the debate. immediately after afterwards always fascinating to think. this caught people's eyes. donald trump ripping a page from a note pad. a lot of people saw an expression e they had not seen him make before.
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he appears to be grinding his teeth. people took note and spent the day analyzing the debate with a body language expert. >> just like the last debate they did not shake hands when it started. what does that tell you we're going to see for the next 90 minutes? >> it is going to be an angry debate and this time calculate. the last time you could put it out to accident, layout of the room or tension in the area at the moment. but this time they had plenty of time to shake hands and didn't. >> there was an exchange and you said in one second you could tell a lot about what donald trump was saying even if the sound was turned down. let's play that. >> because he'd rather have a puppet as president of the united states. >> no puppet. >> so there you see this face. and what does that face in that split second tell you? >> as you say that went by so fast and yet freezing it like that you can see the disgust and anger in the face. he really didn't like that
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comment. >> he was disgusted and angry. but does that work for him or against him. >> this is trump being consistent. consistently angry. >> and hillary clinton we hadn't seen much of in this debate. it was notable in this debate. it was her looking down a lot. >> the russian government has engaged in espionage against americans. >> i think she's uncomfortable here. i think it is a tell for hillary. she normally makes very good eye contact with the audience. with the questioner. in this case she's looking down because she's a little uncertain of what she's talking about. >> interesting moment in the debate when the moderator said something funny and we have very different reactions from the candidates. >> there is almost no issue than separates the two of you more than the immigration. actually there are a lot of issues that separate the two of you. >> you have her not only smiling but laughing and him looking down and very serious. what does that tell you? >> hillary's reaction is more human one. she's laughing in response to the humor. that is what we'd expect from an
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ordinary person. trump's response is consistent with his overall anger. it never changes. it never varies. >> we talk about this a lot during the debates and presentations but it was very present during this debate last night. the water sip. >> espionage against our people against the life and the health of the mother. they have 4 million american citizen children. competition in asia you said increasing jobs. we've got to do more. >> what does that tell a body language expert. >> both people are going to be nervous. they are going to get the adrenaline coursing through the system. one of the effects of t adrenaline is dry mouth. and donald gave into that and sipped plenty of water in effort to alleviate that symptom. >> something we haven't talked about in any of the body language segments during the debate season but was interesting to notice last night. let's call it the microphone adjustments.
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>> we talk about the supreme court. -- citizens united, a decision -- but there is no doubt that i respect the second amendment. >>s this is a fidget. no doubt. and now one of the key moments of debate, something that everyone is talking about today. >> are you saying you're not prepared now to commit to that principle? >> what i'm saying is i'll tell you at the time. i'll keep you in suspense. >> he's absolutely sincere. his face opened up. eyebrows went up. he's happy to make this pronouncement. he's been absolutely genuine. he intends to keep us in suspense. >> donald trump called hillary clinton quote such a nasty woman. we'll hear some reaction about that moment from women who are undecided going into the debate. and also tonight what's supposed to be a light-hearted event when they step up to the podium we'll bring you their comments live. that's supposed to take place very soon.
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soon hillary clinton and donald trump will speak at a charity dinner in new york city. we'll bring it to you live. and two of donald trump's . phrases from last night's debate set the internet on fire. bad hombres and nasty woman.
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the reaction was swift online and today you can actually buy tee shirts with those phrases if you are so inclined. >> trump interrupted her in a question about social security and medicare. >> my social security, payroll contribution will go up as will donalds, assuming he can't figure out how to get out of it. but what we want to do is replenish -- >> such a nasty women. >> some women who called themselves undecided going into the debate. take a look. >> who has actually decided on a candidate? and who have you decided to vote for? >> donald trump. >> donald trump. >> hillary clinton. >> of the six women we gathered in las vegas two are firmly now behind donald trump despite his comments about women and women's issues at the las vegas debate. when asked about the women accusing trump of groping them, this was his response. >> those story have been largely debunked.
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i don't know those people. i have a feeling it was her campaign that did it. >> in fact some of the women's stories have been corroborated. >> did it bother you that he just flatly brushed aside all the accusations during the debate? >> yes it bothered me. it shows me the level of -- to me the level of respect that he has for women who are defenseless. >> shows no respect for women. it just shows that it is just an object like your toy. >> this newly minted trump supporter liked that trump said he hadn't apologized about the accusations to his wife melania. >> i think that was totally the right answer to say. i didn't apologize because it didn't happen. >> trump was quick to say no one respects women like he does. >> i think he respects women. the way he treats his children. his wife. to me that is respectful. >> respectful was not how some in this group thought trump behaved when he leaned into the microphone to call hillary clinton such a nasty women. >> the chancellor of germany is a female.
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we have women leaders in the world. are you going talk to them this way? i was insulted that he would say that. >> i thought it just debunked what he said about respecting women. the fact that he would act like a 4-year-old. here is something he doesn't like a policy he doesn't agree and and he goes and says nasty woman. it shows his character. >> not everyone agreed. >> it wasn't probably the best, nicest thing to do but at the same time you look at her and the look on her face and, you know, it makes you just want to shake her. >> perhaps it was trump's comment on late-term abortion that divided our group most. >> in the ninth month you can take the baby and rip the baby out of the womb of the mother prior to the birth of the baby. >> it's a terrible decision someone has to make. and to make it seem like they just got a knife and ripped it
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out like that was easiest decision in their life. >> that is how the baby is pulled out of the mother so he was not far off. >> sounded like a cesarean, yes. >> it didn't bother you? you stand by him? >> i appreciate him speaking truth in that. there are ugly words but they have to be put out there. >> more ugly words in one of the ugliest campaigns ever. randi kaye, cnn las vegas. >> joining me now. trump supporter kayleigh mcenany and clinton support christine quinn. given donald trump's lack of supporters among women voters was a comment like such a nasty woman helpful? >> probably not. look, i think he was frustrated in that moment. i think there are a lot of woman -- women who looked at hillary clinton and did see smug, arrogance. certainly conservative women and there is a deep frustration with some of the things she's gotten away with. there is a lot of frustration there. and i think that was a moment of
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frustration that donald trump said those words. i don't think he should have said it. but i think if it were a man sitting there he would have said nasty man. probably doesn't help but i think most women are voting on issues. >> he's certainly been versus aggressive towards the men he was against in the primary. >> i don't take this as much as a sexist comment honestly. i just take it as an incredibly rude, boorish, bullying comment, which he does across the board. and it really says to me he's not a respectful person. i think we've seen clear evidence he is particularly disrespectful and more than that against women and relating to women. what this really shows is he lacks the temperament to be president. an opponent kind of picking at him. giving little like ping-pong ball shots makes him say something that's undignified, unpresidential and not good for his race. if he could be goaded like that
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on this stage, what would he possibly do in meetings with international leaders? this shows another reason he just doesn't have what it takes. >> do you believe he could be goaded easily? she says he's a puppet. he instantly fires back i'm not a puppet, you are the puppet. >> i don't think so. i think there is a donald trump on stage or at a rally or in a debate or in front of the tv camera and also the donald trump who created a $10 billion brand and he didn't do that blowing up but by negotiating behind the scenes with other very important business leaders and i think his business speaks to the fact he can do that. i think this is where we mislead ourselves. i don't think anyone is going to go into a voting booth and say he called her a nasty woman, i can't vote for that guy. i think thinking about how kid can afford college, have a higher wage. >> do you think the temperament idea. the character or temperament to be president is something people
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are going to vote on? >> maybe and hillary clinton has done good on making this about temperament. and this is onus on trump to make it about issues. and he wins issues every day of the week. >> whether or not it is going to be a voting booth issue we'll know in a couple of weeks. i think it is generally how people should behave though. people who are running to be president of the united states, the most powerful position in the world should not behave poorly. should not call other people names and we've seen donald trump do that all through the primary with person after person after person. it is not how i would want my nieces and nephews and grand nieces and grand nephew to behave. and i think people running for president of the united states should behave better than the 4 and 5 and 6-year-olds in i life. and what if they were watching it and all of a sudden they think it is okay to call people names. it is not about the votes it is more important about --
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leadership and sending a message of civility. >> people running for office should always be able to pass a basic test for a security clearance and none of us are certain hillary clinton is going to pass that. >> quite certain a hundred times over. >> christine quinn, thanks very much. minutes from now donald trump and hillary clinton are going to speak at the annual al smith charity dinner here in new york. ritual of politics. supposed to be an evening of fun self-deprecating humor. but in this bare knuckles election will tonight's roast become something of an i inferno? we'll bring it to you live . i've been on my feel all day. i'm bushed! yea me too. excuse me...coming through! ride the gel wave of comfort with dr. scholls massaging gel insoles. they're proven to give you comfort. which helps you feel more energized ...all day long. i want what he has.
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just minutes from now, we'll find out if donald trump and hillary clinton can pull off what might seem impossible, hit the pause button for their disdain for each other. it's a ritual of politics, a night where partisan rivals are expected to poke gentle fun at themselves and at each other. al smith iv, the mc, is setting the tone tonight. >> donald, even though there's a man sitting next to you in a robe, you're not in the locker room. so -- so, please, watch your language. >> well, that's what they're aiming for. and here's how it played out over the years and the
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candidates. jeff zeleny looks back. >> it's a ritual stop on the road to the white house. a place where democrats -- >> i went shopping at some stores in midtown. i understand governor romney went shopping for some stores in midtown. >> and republicans. >> it's nice to finally relax and to wear what ann and i wear around the house. >> reporter: have long come together for a night of comedy and comity. the annual al smith dinner in new york has drawn presidents and aspiring ones. in years gone by, there's far more self-deprecating satire. >> this is an impressive crowd. the haves and the have-mores. some people call you the elite. i call you my base. >> reporter: then score-settling. >> i can't shake that feeling that some people here are pulling for me.
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i'm delighted to see you here tonight, hillary. >> the white tie dinner, a benefit for catholic charities, has often provided relief from the rancor of the campaign trail, like this exchange in that epic race 16 years ago. >> one of my favorite shows is "who wants to be a millionaire?". well it should really be called after taxes a $651,430 person. >> talk a lot about our economic plans and my opponent keeps saying i give too much tax relief to the top 1%. but he hasn't heard my latest proposal. the bottom 99% will do well when they get to split dick cheney's stock options. >> reporter: during his two appearances at the dinner, president obama often poked fun at himself.
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>> tonight's not about the disagreements governor romney and i may have. it's what we have in common, beginning with our unusual names. actually, mitt is his middle name. i wish i could use my middle name. >> reporter: his rivals, did too. >> and i come here tonight to the al smith dinner knowing that i'm the underdog in these final weeks, but if you know where to look, there are signs of hope. >> reporter: the laughter flowed both ways, a respite from the negative campaigns that almost seemed quaint this time around. respect for the office seemed clear, from the winners -- >> mr. vice president, i can't wish you success, but i do wish you well. >> reporter: and the losers. >> don't tell anyone i said so, but our 44th president has many gifts and a beautiful family that would make any man proud. in our country, you can oppose someone in politics and make a confident case against their policies without any ill will. >> reporter: tonight's dinner, a test for whether that message still stands. jeff zeleny, cnn, washington. >> donald trump will speak first tonight. he's expected to take the stage
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in a few minutes. we'll be taking that live. joining me now, gloria borger, john king, and david gergen. gloria, the dinner is designed to kind of be a break from the constant campaign back and forth for candidates. do you see that happening tonight, though? >> i sure hope so. i think we could all use it and i think they could use it if conversation this evening you've been having anderson, is very different from the conversations in the past. we're talking about, did they shake hands? we know they posed for pictures. but did they talk to each other? did they engage with each other? we haven't had those conversations in the past years, because it wasn't a question at all. and i think after last night's debate, in which donald trump called her, hillary clinton, a nasty woman and, you know, they got into it last night and she said, after the debate, that she
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was horrified about his charges that the election is rigged and that he might not accept the results. they have to sort of dig deep and get some great joke writers here to allow them to kind of get past that and show a little bit of humor. >> david, you've worked in past administrations. how important is something like this? >> it's really important. these kind of dinners like the gridiron dinner in washington and other dinners in washington and this annual hallowed tradition here in new york of the al smith dinner, they're real tests of people, of their character, and their humor. humor is extraordinarily important, of course, too, i think to succeeding as president. ronald reagan used his humor. jack kennedy had humor that was very important. but here tonight, i think the test is, can these two people take a joke from each other? donald trump is notoriously thin skinned. >> and make jokes about themselves. >> make jokes about themselves. that's where the tension is and the focus is. how well can these people handle this, especially trump?
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>> let's go back to the waldorf astoria hotel where al smith is now speaking. >> let's recognize several dignitaries in the room. governor cuomo is here tonight. at last night's debate, gave an idea. he told bill marrow that he wants his staff to start calling him a tough hombre. mayor de blasio is here tonight. mr. mayor. we would like to apologize. we could not grant you your request to sit to the left of everybody. he got here on time. chuck schumer's here.
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you may not know this, but chuck is running for his fourth term. chuck has a favor to ask. can someone tell him who his opponent is? senator gillibrand is also here. senator, it must be nice to see two new yorkers vying for the highest office in the land. it just goes to show you that if you were born into immense wealth or your husband was president, you can accomplish anything. rudy giuliani is here. mr. mayor, don't worry, we aim
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the lights just right to make sure you'll be in donald trump's shadow all fight. governor christie was supposed to be here, but he got stuck in bridge traffic. it's always nice to be with my friend, cardinal dolan. in this difficult time for our nation, we should think about the deep questions of faith. cardinal dolan asks us all things like, how can one fully understand the holy spirit? what does salvation really mean? and are you going to finish that?