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thank you so much for watching tonight. cnn with don lemon starts now. e-mails, russia, the fbi, that "access hollywood" tape, what could be next? this is "cnn tonight," i'm don lemon. the race tightening in the last week of this brutal campaign. here's where we are. hillary clinton just four points ahead of donald trump. it was five just yesterday. both campaigns throwing everything they can at the wall just to see what sticks, but it all comes down to the character issue, if it does, who comes out ahead. hillary clinton slams donald trump tonight. >> this is all part of a pattern for donald trump. time, after time, he's done things not because he thinks they're right, not even because he thinks they're legal, but because he thinks they'll get
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away with it. >> donald trump has a novel appeal to early voters who have already cast their ballots for clinton. >> you can change your vote to donald trump will make america great again, okay. >> cnn's mark preston, dana bash, and tom foreman are all here. tom i'm going to start with you, because this is where it counts. let's start with a path to 270. what does donald trump have to do to hit that magic number? >> he has to look at this great big gap and find a way to close it. what that means out of nevada, he has to overcome the union support around vegas and tip nevada into his column here. he has to appear in utah, he has to overcome the fact evan mcmullin is threatening to maybe win the state over he or hillary clinton. he has to get arizona tipped his way, and has to have his appeal in the rust belt work in ohio, and all we're talking about here you'll notice is the battleground states. he has to have that work, he has to somehow grab north carolina
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and he has to get the big prize down here, florida. he has to tip all of that his way just to t in striking range, don. >> so where does he have the chance of getting those extra few electoral votes? you said striking range, because he's going to need more votes to push him over the top. >> he's still behind. he's got to get somehow over the edge. he could look to the rust belt to pennsylvania where he's been trying to push very hard. wisconsin, michigan. the numbers and history there don't work in his favor, so strongly. they've been going back democratic for quite sometime, and colorado could be the key. colorado could be the key because much more recently, is voter republican. he hasn't voted for barack obama, also voted for george w. bush. if he could tip this over, he could be over the top. >> that is an uphill climb b. what about hillary clinton's path to 270? >> what hillary clinton has to do is look at this map and say i just don't need to lose anything
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because look at all the ground out here. if she doesn't lose anything, let's say that exactly what we described happened, donald trump grabs all these western states. let's say he gets colorado, this is let's say he gets ohio. north carolina. let's say he even gets pennsylvania, which is a big prize up there that he's been working very hard on. now look at that. he's finally got the lead. he's right on the doorstep. what does she have to do? she has to get florida. if she does, it's enough, and that's why they're working florida so hard right now, don. >> what's the biggest danger for her campaign? is it not winning florida? >> well, it's not winning florida, and it is the thing i think they have nightmares about, the idea that people might simply go soft on her. they might simply not feel the character issue may hurt her somehow, or that in some places there may be some of her supporters to say hey look at that original number there. she's so far ahead she's clearly going to win, i don't need to
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bother and if that's the case then she could become vulnerable in a lot of places that don't look vulnerable. >> she needs enthusiasm to get out the vote. turnout, turnout. i want to bring in alan dershowitz, thank you for joining us, the new york times is reporting the department of justice asked the fbi not to pursue cases so close to election involving the clinton foundation, and also checking into paul manafort's business dealings in the ukraine. what's your reaction to this report? it shows that justice department used to be in charge but they're not in charge anymore. they've basically given that up. is that because bill clinton met the attorney general on the airplane? is that going to be the explanation for this? but right now, we have either the perception or the reality of a double standard. the justice department and the fbi can't be refusing to report on the manafort investigation which would hurt trump while making the statement comey made about the e-mails investigation. silence is no longer an option
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for comey. he has two options. he has to make a statement and explain that double standard, or he has to resign. he can't know -- he can't any longer by silence allow his last statement to influence this election. look how close it's becoming since that statement was made. to have the fbi influence the outcome of an election and nothing turn up would be an absolute disgrace to democracy. >> dana bash, this seems to back up what the clinton campaign says there's double standard, the fbi has been reporting on the so-called miss dealings and nothing has been shown yet, and nothing on donald trump. >> that's right. and this case not donald trump per se, but the person who for a short time was running his campaign, paul manafort. you're right. it completely plays into that. it's going to be no question, a talking point already is, and
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probably will be from the candidate herself tomorrow. the question is whether or not it's too late and whether or not it matters in the eyes of the voters who are for better or worse now hearing about the fbi's case being reopened or reexamined or however you want to phrase it. and the questions about hillary clinton's e-mail server, the questions about her judgment being front and center as we close this campaign as opposed to what the clinton campaign clearly wants to do, as you just see in their new ads tonight, close on the donald trump statements that they think are simply repugnant to many voters out there. >> so to dana's point, mark we don't know how this is going to impact the race, maybe this has been done. what's your assessment here
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the fbi is facing unprecedented backlash at this stage in the campaign. >> no doubt, don. certainly at this point in the campaign, the clinton campaign is going directly at the fbi, calling into question director comey's motives. in many ways they have to do that. otherwise it would be passive in not being aggressive enough and fighting against it. we don't know if they're duplicates and we don't know what any of that information is. we do know director comey felt he needed to come out and actually announce that they were reopening the investigation and of course telling those on capitol hill it has certainly added fuel, don, to the fire of donald trump, at a time when the campaign needed a boost in the arm. >> there's no reason why comey had to say anything, at least until he knew whether these were duplicates. he -- what he's doing is he's making the announcement at the worst possible time, and if he's going to make the announcement, he should have said i don't know what's in these e-mails any more than any of you do so it shouldn't influence anybody's vote. the way he put it and he said it was pertinent to the investigation, allowed the republicans to say the investigation is reopened, she's
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going to be indicted, trump says it's worse than watergate and she's going to be busy litigating. it becomes a big issue. >> this is a former report. former cnn law enforcement officials say mr. comey's decision to break with justice department guidelines caused these problems. had he handled the case the way the fbi handled the investigation into the clinton foundation and mr. manafort, the argue goes he would have gotten criticism from the republicans but in the future a larger principle that has guided both parties. do you agree? >> loretta lynch was the attorney general. she's taken herself out of the case. the deputy is in there. he's gotten far more power. the head of the fbi should never be speaking at all.
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you never hear from investigative agencies. it should be the justice department that speaks. >> let's talk more about affecting the race and the polls. do you want to weigh in before we go there? >> no, go ahead. >> the cnn poll show this is race is tightening leading by four points. last wednesday the polls had her ahead by seven points. so what are exactly -- we're exactly one week away right now. clearly a lot can happen in just a few days and never mind a whole week. what are you hearing from the campaigns? >> that it's tightening, and a national poll certainly gives you a broad snapshot. what matters are the numbers seen in the battleground states and whether it is pennsylvania, or florida, or you know even states that have new attention from both campaigns like wisconsin, numbers are tightening. now whether or not that tightening continues is still up in the air. i mean, even republicans that i
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was communicating with as late as tonight say they're not going to be really, really sure how many of an effect this fbi story has for example until it's sort of baked into the polls by wednesday, which i guess is tomorrow or thursday, and then they'll sort of know how to go from there. but even before this, i was told by people who are really keeping close tabs on this the numbers were tightening and i think the thing to keep in mind, and don we've talked about this for so long now, it's actually kind of astonishing how volatile the polls have been and continue to be based on where the narrative is, frankly mostly with regard to donald trump when he's on the defense and he is -- you know has a lot of self-inflicted wounds as we saw in the summer and the fall, he really suffers big time in the polls and hillary clinton is the beneficiary of that and the opposite is happening. >> what's going to be -- what is key to this campaign are those early-voting numbers because both sides are trying to get as many people out to vote.
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what are you seeing in the totals so far? >> don, let's take a quick look of where we are in the early vote. the road it 270 of course has already begun with 24.4 million people, in 38 states have already cast their vote for a president. when we look at the 12 battleground states, that cnn identified, it's about 12.4 million people, a little bit more than that have already cast their vote. let's look at the state of north carolina, as tom was saying a little bit earlier, donald trump needs to win north carolina in order for his path to succeed to 270. let's take a look at three important constituencies in north carolina, don. the first one, of course, is the african-american vote. let's take a look right here. right now, 23% of the vote right now that have cast early votes is african-american. almost 73% is white. now, let's look at that number though, compared to 2012. look at the drop off we've seen right there. that is a sizeable drop off at
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this point, don. so that is not good news right now for hillary clinton, when you're looking at the obama constituencies. let's look at gender right now. let's look at the break down. women clearly outpacing men by about 12 percentage points, which is good news, but it's about the same as we saw in 2012. so they're not outperforming at this point in the other key leg of the three-legged stool of the obama constituency is age, and let's look at these numbers right here. 2016, look at the first two columns here, 18 to 39, about 10% of the vote, early vote, is -- tend to be younger voters and as you can see, 40 to 65-plus. look at the discrepancy as you can see the percentage. and even a little bit more troubling right now, don, for democrats is that there's been a bit of a drop off when it comes to the younger vote right now in north carolina, while we're seeing a little bit of an edging
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up with the older vote. now, older voters tend to vote for republicans, tend to vote for donald trump. these numbers are not predictive of what's going to happen but gives us an idea how the political parties are turning out their voters a week before the election. >> and that's why this is so important, this whole fbi story. do you think you'll see comey coming out or having some explanation especially because of this story in. >> he's a very stubborn man and he's announced publicly he's not going to make a statement that. is a terrible, terrible mistake. the clinton people are in a very tough situation. if they provoke comey too much he will look to justify what he said and that's the last thing they want, ah-ha, i was right to announce it, i found something. it's a very, very delicate act
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for them. one other thing that's important in populous elections -- and donald trump's a populous, polls tend to under predict as they under predicted the brexit and i worry as a supporter of hillary clinton, the 4% may really be 2%. >> thank you, alan, we appreciate it. mark and dana, stick around. you'll be the first out of the break. thank you very much. when we come right back, just one week to go until the election and we are still haven't seen donald trump's taxes. more speculation tonight about what's hidden in his returns. zuccolis. through ancestry, ld through dna i found out that i was only 16% italian. he was 34% eastern european. so i went onto ancestry, soon learned that one of our ancestors we thought was italian was eastern european. this is my ancestor who i didn't know about. he looks a little bit like me, yes. ancestry has many paths to discovering your story. get started for free at
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ii could stand in the middle of a5th avenue and shoot somebody and i wouldn't lose any voters, okay? and you can tell them to go f**á themselves. you know you could see there was blood coming out of her eyes, blood coming out of her wherever. you gotta see this, i don't know, i don't remember. he's going like 'i don't remember.'
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i want to take you live to fort lauderdale where hillary clinton is speaking at a campaign rally. let's listen in. >> don't get distracted, don't get diverted. focus on the kind of country and world that we want to help create. that's what i've done. i have stayed focused on one thing, on you, on your lives, your families. the problems that keep you up at night, and that's what i'm doing now because i know the day after the election that's what really counts. and yourself what kind of president commander in chief do we need to get the economy working for everyone, not just those at the top?
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>> all right. so again hillary clinton speaking now in fort lauderdale, florida. let's get to dana bash and mark preston. what message is she trying to send tonight to try to get out from under this e-mail problem? >> don't forget what really matters here, which is you're really choosing between not just me as one of my friends who used to work in politics for a long time used to say, none of the above is not on the ballot. it's a choice between her and donald trump, and in that choice, that she's telling voters it should be her and not donald trump. but you know showing florida, going back to what mark preston was showing with the early voting and issues the clinton campaign is having reforming, rebuilding that obama coalition, i've heard from democrats really all day today and yesterday as i've been doing some reporting
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they've very concerned about states like florida, because of that coalition falling short, particularly when it comes to the african-american vote. concern that democratic -- that clinton campaign rather has not done enough to reach out in the african-american communities the way they should have knowing that president obama isn't on the ballot, and that she doesn't have the same relationship with african-american communities. so that's one example of kind of the problems that clinton campaign are running into, when on the flip side, you know i was in iowa over the weekend and the energy -- and the enthusiasm for donald trump is real. a lot of what's driving that, don, is the enthusiasm against hillary clinton, the chairman there said to me, you know, that he would compliment clinton because she's been the best thing that republicans have going to galvanize their base. >> and democrats are hoping for the same thing on the other side with donald trump.
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so, mark, the election is just one week from tonight and we are still haven't seen -- speaking of donald trump we haven't seen his tax returns and there's more -- there are more stories today about how he avoided paying them. the "new york times" calling his methods legally dubious, trump campaign calling that speculation. 73% of voters say he should release them. that's not going to happen is it? >> no, probably not. it would be interesting if donald trump does win the presidency, will we see those tax returns and how quickly will we see them. the bottom line is this is one of those issues that hasn't been fatal for them and hasn't necessarily hurt his support. he has his core support right now and i do think it's powerful what dana just said about hillary clinton. a lot of people think that she is capable and qualified to be the commander in chief, but yet they have a visceral reaction.
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some people do to her, and it's not so much their love for donald trump, but their distaste for hillary clinton that might actually drive them to the polls. that's why we're seeing hillary clinton today down in florida, one of the things that she tried to do was to drive that wedge again between donald trump and those on the fence including republicans about the moral character and the moral issues. they released a television ad using his own words against him, reprehensible things he's said in the past -- >> i want to hear that. >> putting a wife to work is a very dangerous thing. when dinner isn't ready when i come home i go through the roof. grab them by the [ muted ] and you're a star you can do anything. >> so you treat women with respect? >> i can't say that either. >> that ad effective at this point, mark? >> yeah, well, i think it could be. the question is how effective is it going to be in the swing
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states we need to be. we all talk about the women vote and how that's designed to get women, and suburban fathers as well, to turn against donald trump. we'll see if it does work. >> dana, tonight, donald trump addressed early democratic voters. take a listen. >> this is a good time to make an important public service announcement. this is a message for any democratic voter who have already cast their ballots for hillary clinton, and who are having a bad case of buyer's remorse. in other words, you want to change your vote. wisconsin is one of several states where you can change your early ballot if you think you've made a mistake. so if you live here, or in michigan or pennsylvania, or minnesota, those four places, you can change your vote to
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donald trump will make america great again, okay? >> is it feasible, dana? can they go back and change? >> he's right. he's right. it goes state by state. he's kind of mixing up early voting and absentee voting because in some states it's kind of one in the same. wisconsin where he was, you can actually change your vote legally three times if you can believe that, and you see the map up there, minnesota, michigan, pennsylvania, new york, connecticut, and mississippi, you can change your vote. it is legal to do so. so he is right about that, and other states where they do have early voting and even those that don't, you cannot change your vote. so it does go state by state. i -- you know, think it's entirely plausible and possible, but if you're looking at questions that he's raised about trouble with the system, i think a slew of people coming in and demanding to change their votes might possibly add to that. >> do either of you notice anything about that -- about the
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language? because usually they'll say democrat voters, right, because when they're reaching out to democratic voters they use the term properly? did you notice that? no one else caught that but me? all right. any ways. thank you very much. stay with me. >> very astute, don. stay with cnn for all-day coverage next tuesday. we'll have all-day coverage. up next this race is so crazy it would almost be funny if it weren't real life. who better to break it all down, the man behind hbo's veep. frnk rich says the gop powers that be are the blame or the trump's rise. he's next. oks gross what is that? you gotta try it, it's terrible. i don't wanna try it if it's terrible. it's like mango chutney and burnt hair. no thank you, i have a very sensitive palate. just try it! guys, i think we should hurry up. if you taste something bad, you want someone else to try it. it's what you do. i can't get the taste out of my mouth! if you want to save fifteen percent or more on car insurance, you switch to geico. it's what you do.
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hillary clinton and donald trump both out on the campaign trail tonight as new polls show the race getting tighter with just seven days until the election. let's discuss with frank rich writer at large for new york magazine and executive producer for hbo's veep. i'm sure your writers at veep never considered anything like this would happen. you have your material written for the next three seasons. >> i guess so. we're very glad the season we're shooting in los angeles doesn't have an election in it because who could make this up? i mean really, it's just
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ridiculous. >> let's talk about this e-mail situation, huma abedin's e-mails on her computer is not what hillary clinton wanted the media to be talking about and herself either just one week out from the election. where do you think the director james comey, the fbi director james comey has appended this race? >> i think it's sort of shocking. i come from the point of view comey is not a partisan, even though he's a republican, and have a smart guy and vain and ambitious, it seems he's made an enormous blunder of the justice department and is going to look like a fool because whatever happens because he just shouldn't have done it. he should have kept his mouth shut. >> do you think he affected the election of 2016, that guy? >> who knows. if hillary clinton loses, possibly. and even so, he's so compromised, the fbi in his own
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career. it's like he blew himself up and i feel whatever he does now, right up to election day even if he came out two days from now and said oh, it was a big mistake and these are e-mails we've seen before and there's nothing new here, the damage has been done. he's distracted people from talking about donald trump and he's, i think, helped depress hillary clinton turnout and some of the figures that you showed earlier tonight should be terms of her base sort of shrugging off her candidacy to some extent. >> do you think he did the trump campaign's work for them? >> i don't think that was his intention, but we all know and it's been reported that trump's strategy is not to win more voters for himself, but to depress parts of her base and to keep them from turning out by dashing any enthusiasm they might have for her. and i think he's -- i think comey has played into trump's plan unwittingly perhaps, but
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that's a distinction without a difference because the damage has been done. >> we have seen this race frank go through a few cycles where hillary clinton builds a big lead, then it tightens back, then she builds back up a lead again and it tightens back. with a week left, do you expect this race to remain this tight right up until election day or see trump close the gap even further? >> i don't want to predict. i think it's going to be -- it seems like it's going to be very close, but if someone told me that she won on a landslide, i would believe it and if someone told me he eeked it out, i'd believe it. i don't think anyone ins and anyone who is saying he or she knows is potentially making a fool of him or herself. >> let's talk more about what you said earlier about the african-american vote and suppressing the vote and all of that because early-voting data shows african-american turnout is down include something key states like north carolina and florida. >> right. >> how much of that is a natural result instead of this whole
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thing? is that the fact president obama isn't running this time, the first black president, and how much do you think it's real concern about hillary clinton at this stage? >> i think the fact that obama is not on the ticket is obviously has a -- a negative effect, and we saw it after all in the mid-terms during both of obama's terms. a lot of people turned out when obama was on, didn't turnout to vote for congress halfway through each of his terms. so that was always a problem that hillary clinton was going to face. the hope was that she could rise above it to some extent and i feel the other young people, african-americans, bernie sanders supporters, they've not been enthusiastic about her and it seemed like she was really making some progress and it seems to be turning back slightly. >> okay. >> at least. >> i want to read something from your latest piece in new york magazine, the weak republican elites who did little or nothing
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to bring trump 20 down, and pander to his constituency, ever since sara pal in's anti-obama lynch mob cannot slink away from the harsh verdict trump is no hitler. after all hitler wasn't fully hitler -- fully hitler either when too many men in power gave him a free pass in the 1930s. and then you go on to say, that only people with power to shut down trump were those sitting at the top of the republican party. tell me about this. >> you know, the press as you and i know, as well as anyone, has been blamed for trump's rise and not stopping. there's been a ton of investigative work on trump and the press couldn't stop it no matter how many opinion pieces are written or what's reported, the republican party elites particularly paul ryan and mitch mcconnell, who after all are the head of congress, and reince priebus had the ability if they exercised leadership to stop
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this in the primary to bump heads together, get republicans to unite around alternative trump, do stuff at the convention, whatever, but they didn't because they were afraid of their own base. now they own it. they own it whether trump -- if trump wins they own that, and if he loses, they own that, because trumpism is going to survive as it has since sara palin and earlier whether trump wins or not. >> frank rich, thank you. come see us in new york, okay? >> i will. thank you. >> when we come back right are some men uncomfortable voting for hillary clinton because she's a woman? president obama seems to think so. ccolis. through ancestry, through dna i found out that i was only 16% italian. he was 34% eastern european. so i went onto ancestry,
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donald trump spending a lot of time in blue states. it's panel time. let's discuss. contributor at the atlantic, corey lewandowski, former trump campaign manager, and op ed from the "new york times" and kayleigh mcenany. i just want to you look at the screen there. we're going to put it up there.
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this is the electoral map. there are six true battleground states here. there's nevada, arizona, utah, ohio, north carolina, and florida. all six of those states go to trump. if all go to trump that only puts him at 264. he's campaigning in these blue states. does he have -- what's his best shot of turning any of these blue states red? >> well, the good news is he's ahead in early voting in florida and ohio. you're right he definitely has to turn a blue state. i think pennsylvania's a good bet. the latest polls show he's behind by two or three points. he wins if he wins florida, ohio, pennsylvania. i will point out the momentum is clearly going in his direction. he gained 13 points in the avc poll in one week, that's a big deal. when you do that you start to put unconventional states in play. newt gingrich has been pointing out there was a state wide election in high school students, 77,000 high school students voted. donald trump won. who in their right mind would
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think donald trump would win among high school students in minnesota. he did. >> pennsylvania, and ohio. >> and florida. >> does anyone disagree with that? >> if you look at colorado, the public poll, the real clear average shows him down four points. there's the real clear politics average. if you look at michigan, that's where he's been. he's down three on the average there and if you look at wisconsin, where donald trump was tonight campaigning, not just by himself, but as ron johnson was with him tonight, the governor of wisconsin, very popular there. reince priebus, chairman. party unit bringing as what they say is bringing that base home, bringing the republicans home. if he can do well in wisconsin, that's going to help ron johnson and maybe steal a state like that where no one is expecting. >> but no paul ryan? >> paul ryan had a busy day today. [ laughter ] >> before we jump to turning the blue states, you have -- i mean you have a candidate who is down in the -- regardless of whether or not there is momentum and shifting or whatever, to sweep every swing state and you're
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down in the polls, and in most of the swing states you're still down even if you narrowed the gap -- >> what polls have you been looking at? >> i'm looking at the polls that show him down. i'm sorry what are you saying he's not down in colorado? >> have you looked at the abc poll? ohio? >> have you looked at the six swing states we put on the board? >> sure. >> is he ahead? >> he's ahead in florida and ohio, and within two points of pennsylvania. >> that means down. >> in one of those, one. >> there's six of them, right? >> he doesn't have to win all six. >> he's ahead in two. that means he has to sweep all six -- >> no he doesn't -- >> i'm sorry, can you let me finish? >> of course. >> is that okay with you? but i'd like you to -- >> one at a time. >> that would be so nice. so he has to sweep all six of those and he still is not at 270.
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>> he doesn't need all six of those. >> he has to sweep all of those. >> if he wins the romney states plus florida, and ohio. he wins the election. >> if you look at the statistician, who aggregate, the 538 average for instance has trump chances up around 30%. that's a lot better than he was doing a week or two ago when he was down at 15%. the "new york times" up shot average still has him down closer to 10%. there's no question. he has gained some ground. he's back where he was now after the first debate. he lost a lot of ground after the first debate. he's made some of that but it's still worth noting that his chances of winning are at less than one and three probably one and four. >> i want to talk about this. this is interesting and probably there is some truth to it. governor weldon says they want to vote for donald trump, alan dershowtiz, who a couple segments ago said when you have
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a populous candidate, often under polled and if you look at brexit, if you look at other populous candidates and the polls are not just accurate, he could be instead of behind two, he would be up three. >> we didn't see that in the primers. in the republican primaries the polls turned out to be very accurate. >> it was different because he was up against donald trump. >> yeah, but we haven't seen that so far with donald trump, is the only point i'm making. >> he said it just this week n pennsylvania, he thinks there's hidden vote for donald trump. this is the former governor, very well respected democrat. he says there's hidden vote for donald trump. if that is the case and we see the intensity very high right now, he's bringing those republicans home, he's doing much better among the african-american community, than mitt romney did, or john mccain, the remmington research poll -- >> the remmington research? >> real politics -- >> you're choosing one poll. >> donald trump in colorado is getting 27% of the
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african american vote and pennsylvania getting 19% of the vote and wisconsin is getting 22% of the american vote. in a poll which real clear politics uses for the poll of polls, that's my research -- >> do you have any numbers? >> it seems more plausible to look at the numbers across -- don't interrupt me. you choose one poll. and three states. wouldn't it make sense to look at the aggregate number -- >> what's the aggregate among african-american voters? >> i don't. >> okay. corey does. >> i have the numbers right here. >> one particular poll. >> survey "usa today.." >> there's new article, after news article, donald trump is actually under performing. >> which one? >> which news article? >> let him finish. >> i don't happen -- >> give me one. >> "new york times," the "washington post." >> who wrote it? >> don't give me this nonsense.
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>> i'm not getting paid by one of the candidates, okay? >> neither am i. [ overlapping dialogue ] >> on that note, stand by. stand by, stand by. 27% of african-american vote in colorado, there's like five african-americans -- >> are you kidding? please. >> there's 27 black people? who are you talking -- >> we'll be right back.
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back now with my panel. kaylee, i want you to pay close attention because i want your reaction first. i want to get your reaction to something president obama said tonight in ohio. he is imploring men to think about whether their opposition to clinton has anything to do with the fact she is a woman. >> and i know that -- that my wife is not just my equal but my superior. that i want us -- i -- i want every man out there who is voting to kind of look inside yourself and ask yourself, well, if you're having problems with this stuff, how much of it is, you know, that we're just not
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used to it, so that, you know, like -- like when a guy's ambitious and out in the public arena and working hard, well, that's okay. but when a woman suddenly does it, suddenly you're like, well, why's she doing that. i'm just being honest. i want you to think about it, because she is so much better qualified than the other guy. >> what do you think, kaylee? >> i think he is encouraging men to look and analyze if they have any sexist tendency. i think there's a big assumption there people aren't voting for clinton because of her gender. i think really a lot of men out there say, do i want the first woman president -- a lot of women out there, do i want the first woman president to be someone who is under federal criminal investigation by the fbi, not on one count by on two. the answer is no. i think it is an insult to my je gender to have the first female president to be someone so corrupt, done so much bad for the country. >> i have to be honest, i have
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heard men here in new york city say, you know, and you think new york city is one of the most diverse cities in the country if not the world, say, i'm not sure that a woman can be president of the united states. you guys have not heard anybody say that? >> it is not even that. just turn the glove inside out and put on to clinton all of the things that are on donald trump. if you had a woman, who if hillary clinton was caught on tape saying she liked to grab men by the penis because she was rich and powerful and she still would be in the race and still be competitive, if you believe that's true there's no sexism. if you had a woman who had been in charge of a real estate dynasty and had been sued for racial discrimination, a pattern of racial discrimination, found to have a pattern, sued once by the justice department, if that person would still be competitive, there's no sexism. if you have a person who has said all of these things, you know, has no experience really, governmental experience and has said all sorts of horrible
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things that under line the fact they have no sense, no concept whatsoever what foreign policy even means, and if that person would still be competitive, then there's no sexism. but maybe because it is not her, it is him, and he is still competitive and maybe there is something to be said. >> corey, to the point, if you look at hillary clinton's resume, right -- you may not like her, maybe you don't like her policies, but she is a very qualified person in her political qualifications, i mean, by far surpass donald trump. >> i think if the qualification we need someone who understands washington, d.c., that's been part of the system 30 years, that can go down and make sure nothing changes, absolutely she's qualified. she's been first lady, u.s. seven for, secretary of state. there's no question she has those credentials. the question is do the american people want those credentials. i think we see the plur alt of the american people think the country is moving in the wrong driks. i can give you the statistics if you like or you can look them up yourself, but most people think the country's on the wrong
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track, and they want a change agent to go to washington. >> you don't think there's sexism in there? >> it is not about sexism. it is about keeping status quo or bringing change. what donald trump is bringing, look, to your point they don't want someone with governmental experience, that's what we have seen. if that was the case, jeb bush or some other candidate with the government experience would be the nominee. >> but -- but one second, sexism is about status quo. let let's remember that. sexism, misogyny, all of the isms are about maintaining status quo. >> it took me three seconds on my phone to tell statistics. there was "washington post" poll, usa today poll, 538 did a run down, look after the break. on if question of sexism, putting hillary clinton aside, there's research about how people respond to women in power. what we know is that men and some women as well tend to
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respond to people differently. there was one academic study where they took to hypothetical state senators and gave a paragraph about the people and said they were ambitious. people didn't respond negatively to the male politician being ambitious but did to the woman being ambitious. it would be bizarre if there was not a sexist response to hillary clinton or any other potential first female president because we know from academic research it is baked into the way people respond to people in power including women. >> here is what is so bother some to me as a female. you know, i've been on college campuses for the last decade of my life and i've seen my peers out earning their male counterpart, getting degrees at higher rates. we are out achieving our male counterparts. when you have hillary clinton stand on a stage and play, use your -- oh, make you think i'm yelling because i'm a woman. it is an insult to fem nichl, an insult to young women like me out achieving our counterpart.
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>> you realize you're the exception and not the real, right? >> i hear this all the time among young women on campus. they don't like when you play the victim card and hillary clinton does that all the time. >> we will see what percentage of those young women vote for donald trump. in fact we know people respond differently to women when they raise their voices, there are academic stuldys. we don't have to imagine this, it is proven. people respond to women differently than to men. >> you guys will be back the next hour. we will continue this. there was an interesting moment i want you guys to respond to in the next hour at a hillary clinton rally. you won't believe what happened. you won't believe what happened. we will be right back. -- captions by vitac -- we danced in a german dance group. i wore when i first got on ancestry i was really surprised that i wasn't finding all of these germans in my tree.
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