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it doesn't really matter they spelled my name right. what's your reaction to melania trump? >> look i think you're right. i think it is a meted topic that we need to discuss as a society. there is way too much hate, way too much venom, way too much violence, and it is horrible and often done under anonymity, done by an egghead, with a fake account or whatever. donald trump does it on his own. he does it with his own persona. he backs up what he says. before we go, a quick if melania trump wants to do something against online programming note about tuesday the. we'll be on wall to wall, bullying, all she's got do is tuesday election day, right here on cnn. that does it for us, "cnn tonight" with don lemon starts put a little melatonin in his now. nighttime milk and maybe lullaby him to sleep. >> or take his phone away. if you thought the world >> take his phone away. series was a nail biter, you ain't seen nothing yet. tie his hands up, do something. this is "cnn tonight," i'm don lemon. i -- i get where she's coming from, but it's a very difficult we have some breaking news for argument to make when you are you. hillary clinton and donald trump sleeping next to donald trump hold dueling rallies in north carolina and that is no coincidence, my friends. who's tweeting at 3:00 a.m. in the morning and tweeting really ridiculous things at 3:00 a.m. >> so the interesting thing, she has a slim lead there, but
everyone -- if you did happen to he cannot afford to lose it. trump speaking on the military split with donald trump, there and getting in a dig on hillary clinton. was one thing that said i just >> under the failed leadership can't go past. of hillary -- talk about for women it was the heidi cruz leadership. thing when he re-tweeted the what leadership? heidi cruz photo. sir this is for you. i don't want to use the word in isn't that definition of online the same sentence. >> while clinton says this. bullying and why isn't her husband held to the same standards she wants to hold the kids to? >> i've said many times he has >> i don't think that's her point at all. shown us who he is, now it is up melania trump certainly didn't to us to decide who we are. think her husband was perfect. >> and meanwhile, president she came out and told her story, what matters to her, in terms of what she would take on as america's first lady. obama rallies early voters in she has an incredibly powerful miami today and saying this about trump. story, one i thought was inspiring and frankly every talk >> you can't boo. he can't hear you boo, but he can hear you vote. >> and melania trump apparently show host and tv show tonight is unfamiliar with her own husband's twitter account, says talking approximate bullying, but in the wrong way. this. instead of attacking melania, why aren't we talking about the real epidemic of cyber bullying. >> our culture has gotten too mean and too rough. sheets to bring and highlight an issue that is a problem. i think we should -- give her credit for that. >> hear with me now, cnn's chief >> i don't think we're attacking political analyst gloria borger, melania.
i don't mean to attack melania. cnn politics executive editor i think she's a class act. i think she's a lovely woman. >> and she said herself -- mark preston, and kerstin >> she's come out to be much powers. good evening to all of you. more grounded than her husband. i want to start with cnn >> she doesn't like a lot of his tweets. >> and she is loving and political director david chalian. there is some good news in the supporting of her spouse, but latest polls, right? he's crazy and tweets crazy >> there are some new polls that things in the middle of the should give donald trump some night. comfort. let's start in new hampshire. that's not normal. a couple polls out there today, >> i would hardly say her spouse one poll shows a one point edge for donald trump, 40% to 39%. is crazy. i think when you say things like that and expect him not to respond is ridiculous. another poll out in new hampshire today, you're calling him a name while getting mad at him -- dead heat, 42% to 42%. >> he's running for president. this is a state in our map we the highest office in the land. have leaning towards hillary >> your father ran for clinton. president. these new polls are certainly >> i was there for that, i welcome news in the trump remember. >> and your father didn't organization. and in utah, this is probably respond to every surrogate, every newsperson, your father some of the most welcome news donald trump got today. took the high road. >> he was also very nice. take a look at this. >> and he's a nice man. we've been talking a lot about evan mcmullin, this third-party, i'm not saying donald trump is not a nice man, whatever. most people go at it different than donald trump. never trump candidate surging. right now donald trump is hanging on to utah. he is seen as a bully. not that he should have to worry, but it's important he's some of things he said is a at 37%, and hillary clinton and
beating mcmullin at 31% to 24%. bully. this is just twitter. look at, that that was just the election cycle. >> the most vicious things in donald trump needs to hold on to this race though -- >> that was just the election side. those six electoral votes. >> let's talk about the terrible things hillary clinton said. looks like he is on his way to >> that's a two-page spread of to so. people, places and things that and a little bit of heartburn may becoming for georgia tonight donald trump has attacked on for the trump campaign. twitter and you and me are on that list. >> and hillary clinton calls millions of americans deplore able and irredeemable, yet that's not a big deal. take a look at this brand-new nbc wall street maris poll, a one point lead in georgia, it has not gone democratic since let's push it aside. 1992. the clinton campaign has not >> we talked about that. that's one thing. >> that's not one thing. been doing an assault and this she constantly has contempt for americans that don't agree with her. >> she said that one time in a where nbc the journal finds the speech. race. may give some heartburn to the do you understand the difference? trump campaign. there's been hundreds. let's look how this all impacts >> you're missing the point of the battle for 270 and look at melania. she wanted to come out and tell two of the most likely paths that donald trump has. her story. still narrow, but two different if anybody in the campaign is paths. one, we call the going low, it's hillary clinton. her campaign -- no-room-for-error path, where if >> she'll apologize, as well. >> her campaign has turned to nothing but vicious, personal you reward all the remaining attacks. these final days that's all she's doing. toss upstates to donald trump she said she was going to take the high road. you see he still doesn't get that's the opposite of what she there, flip new hampshire for has done in this -- >> you're absolutely right. him. >> -- ten days. we saw those two tied polls >> we discussed it the last two today. he's one away.
how does he get that in that segments before that. >> bakari, donald trump called a ? congressional district up in maine. failed cnn announcer, right, he they award their votes by congressional district. that would get him to 270. called you that, is that right? another path, the rust belt. >> yeah. this is what the campaign would >> melania trump says our online culture has gotten too mean and too rough. hope changed the map with a what's your reaction? different type of voter than >> i look in the context of previous modern republican melania trump's two entrees on nominees. to the national stage and melania's team around her failed look what would happen here. her first with the speech at the donald trump wouldn't need all convention and now with the of the toss ups. speech talking about bullying, let's say he hangs on to utah, and arizona. which many say is hypocrisy because her husband is the point he gets florida and ohio, but we person when it comes to online bullying. can give hillary clinton and i don't think anybody is talking north carolina here, but what happens is if donald trump runs through the rust belt and flips wisconsin and michigan, he gets to 270. badly about melania trump. we also know he's playing in pennsylvania. i think she is a women of great two of those three, not even poise. i think she's intelligent and she has or own business, she's sweeping all the toss ups, could beautiful, so no one is get donald trump to 270. criticizing melania trump on don? that, but what i am saying is >> david chalian thank you very her team -- the people around much. >> now let's turn to gloria, her, somebody who said -- who wrote those remarks, somebody mark, and kiersten. who said we're going to talk about bullying and completely disregard -- when you listen to mark, the polls are fast and furious now, the big picture. the speech, it's almost as if who is expanding the map and you want to introduce her to
where? donald trump, because maybe she >> well, let's just first say can work on donald trump. that we think that wind is there's some disconnect there behind donald trump at this point. and i just put that on the campaign. we don't know how many of a head i don't put that on her, because wind he's got going on but he i do think she's a available certainly has some wind going. let's take a look at three -- a valuable different states. asset to the campaign and we let's first look at georgia. should see more of her if she wants to do better with women. this is a big surprise, a new poll that has come out in that >> that was a caveat we all state that shows donald trump only up by one point. very surprising. this is a very red state. gave. hillary clinton hasn't invested she's an admirable woman and very much time or any money and what else is interesting is that is an admirable campaign to we're looking at early vote take up. >> she's talking about child bullying. >> absolutely. numbers and even though they >> and everybody knows the difference, too, and to try to make it something different don't correlate to a poll, don, is -- >> i have to say congratulations we're seeing a decrease in andre bauer, because as far as i participation by can do you haven't been attacked african-american voters in the by donald trump on twitter yet, depends on what comes out of early vote. your mouth, but is she the right so, i'm sure the clinton messenger for this cause? campaign is scratching their heads wondering if in fact >> i like her independence in georgia is real. but let's now go up to the state the fact she's pursuing what she thinks is important. of new hampshire that david chalian had noted and look at this poll right here, that's also in this speech, i think we certainly getting a lot of attention. haven't mentioned that she talked about her journey to it is even now. become a u.s. citizen and she the suffolk university boston globe poll, what's interesting thought it was the greatest thing in her life and this was the greatest country and i think
those are big things, being an about new hampshire now is we've seen hillary clinton in immigrant, coming to this the past few hours announce she's now going to hold an event in new hampshire on sunday and guess who is going to follow her country, talking about her on monday, none other than the journey, doing it the legal way president of the united states, and talking about how proud she barack obama heads up there monday to try to rally the was. troops in that state which has and i'm paraphrasing but that tightened up and let's move west too is a big message. to the state of colorado right y'all have heard me disagree with donald trump before. now, a poll that caught us off he's my man. i want him for president. i think he's the only person guard late last night. that's run in many years that shows that the race is even out can really catastrophically when there in colorado. you can see that 39%-39%, gary johnson at 5%. so many are on the fence, voters that aren't sure which way she's going to go. bernie sanders is going in on saturday. a blue state such as colorado when he mounds that message of term limits, cleaning the pool out, draining now seems to be on the board at the swamp, getting rid of people least from this poll's lobbying after they've been in perspective and clearly the public office, which i could clinton campaign has some have done, but chose not to. concerns that's why they're when he talks about making those sending in two of their big guns changes i think that's where he to try to rally the last-minute gets his best bumps. votes, don. i think that's where people really see the donald trump that >>, et cetera a good thing this so many of have you stood happens only once every four behind. years event' sure people at home >> i don't think that -- >> going after the people on the internet, that's not his strong suit. are going, my goodness. >> i was going to say i don't think you're going to get
attacked. goria, were you commenting there under your breath? that's why -- at the end you >> no, i just -- i feel like we wrapped it in a bow. do see this every four years. we'll be right back and we'll continue our conversation. in 2012 when, mitt romney made an election day trip to ohio. we were all talking about the tightening in pennsylvania. this is what happens at the end of a presidential race. this has tightened a bit because of the comey news out of the fbi of course and that hasn't been good for hillary clinton. let's not pretend that it is and that it's just a natural kind of settling and tightening of a race in a very divided country. i was talking to somebody in north carolina who pays a lot of attention to their early voting who said to me, 90% of republicans will come home in north carolina and that's really good for donald trump. the african-american vote is down. will hillary clinton be able to gather her more progressive, younger, multicultural coalition, to win that state, we just don't know. >> yeah.
>> there are some really key states, north carolina, florida, ohio, and pennsylvania, are my four that i'm really going to be looking at election night. >> i said georgia. s that my thing. i think georgia is going to be up there. but listen -- >> it could be a surprise. >> if you thought the world series was a nail biter, skiier -- kiersten, wait until you see what we're about to show you on cnn tonight tonight. tonight, tonight, i like that. gloria mentioned the bad news that came out for hillary clinton, but the thing is, is donald trump has been trying mightily to stay on message and not to blow it. let's listen and i'll let you respond. >> there's so much more brave than me. i wouldn't have done what they did. i've brave in other ways. i'm financially brave. big deal. right? he's a real brave. when i look at these great
admirals and these great generals, and these great medal of honor recipients, to think of her being their boss, i don't think so. and you know they're incredible patriots. they would never say a thing, but i know what they're thinking. it's not for them, believe me. >> so kiersten, that was on the border. it was borderline, but can he keep control -- >> that was borderline? >> i mean for donald trump. >> i was wondering what you were going to call that, don. >> can he do that for five days? can he keep control of himself for another five days? >> i'm going to call that out of bounds. i don't think that's borderline. we keep hearing people say this and i think it's true. and i think we've lowered our standards too much. to me that's not what you see. to me, the implication also -- maybe i'm seeing sexism beyond
every bush. but it seems sexist, you can't imagine these people, her being their boss, so maybe it's been too many days of him being on script and he's going to start going off script because let's face it, what's his record for actually staying on script? i don't think it's been more than a couple weeks probably. >> i can't believe i'm asking you -- >> i think he thinks it's working -- >> go ahead, gloria. >> if he thinks it's working, don, he might just stay on script and he seems to be having a great deal of success with it, and so i think as long as he thinks it's working, he'll go with it. i mean, he channeled himself yesterday, i believe, and sort of you saw the thought bubble coming out of his head when he said -- >> no, he said it out loud. it wasn't a thought bubble, gloria. >> right. it was a real -- >> maybe it was in the prompter, who knows. mark i have to ask you -- >> i don't think so. >> for the clinton campaign, it
. back now with my spectacular seems like there's -- before panel, which includes sarah huckabee sanders, anna navarro, this letter came out from the bakari sellers and andre bauer. fbi, before comey and after north carolina is going to be key in this case. comey, and then before comey, i want to play this, her name is clinton pivoted to what she may brown wiggins, and she says would do as president. she was discriminated against now she and her surrogates are attacking, listen. when she tried to rent a >> just a few days ago i want property from the trump property you to hear this because this in the '60s. has never happened to a major -- to a nominee of a major party. just a few days ago, donald listen. the trumps just turned me trump was endorsed by the away because of the color of my official newspaper of the klu klux klan. they wrote their endorsement under the slogan of his skin. and they had done the same thing campaign, make america great again. to many others. they said it's about preserving when i think about how they lied white identity and they've placed their faith and hope in to me just because i was black, him. >> so, gloria, i want you to respond, but kerstin said -- if i'm looking at my notes earlier, i still feel the anger. kerstin said she should leave the hitting up to his surrogates and focus on a more positive message. i can't share this experience do you agree with what she said to our producers earlier? with you without the pain.
>> this -- i do. i think that this isn't the way >> listen, bakari, donald trump hillary clinton intended to end would have been 17 at the time her campaign. remember when she said they go miswiggins filed a complaint against his father's company. low, we go high, and i think that the whole comey-fbi matter we know ten years later trump's company was sued by the federal threw her off script so she's on government for housing the attack. discrimination. how do you feel when you hear we should not be surprised. her story? >> well, i think that's -- i the candidates are attacking think if we look at it in totality, that type of pain is what a lot of african-americans during the last handful of days feel as if donald trump is of a presidential campaign. >> shocking. emblematic of. when you think about just this >> i do get that. week, don, i mean this week you but i do believe that that kind of an attack, i totally agree had a black church in should be left to a surrogate to mississippi that was bombed that do. she can -- she's clearly trying said vote trump. to get out african-american you had david duke that is on the main stage in a debate down voters because she is not reaching for example barack in louisiana. you had the kkk, their newspaper obama numbers in north carolina, come out and introduce -- and nor by the way, should she be expected to, but they need to endorse, excuse me, donald trump. then you have these stories like get up the african-american vote ms. wiggins and, you know, there in a place like north carolina. so she's doing that. are so many people. we are not that far away from but i think that that might be ms. wiggins' generation, from better left to a surrogate and her story. to hear her pain, i mean it is she ought to be making the case very tough. and the question that people have to really ask themselves in not out of fear so much, but to this election is do you want to
barack obama out of hope about what she can do for you in the vote for someone hto be presidet last day or two and maybe she will get there. of the united states who >> okay. >> but she's not there yet. literally turned people away because they were colored. >> hey, kerstin, i'll let you those were his words. they literally marked c on an application for people that were colored and would not rent to respond. i have to get to the break. them, and they were sued i'll let you respond on the successfully not once but twice. so i appreciate her story, and i other side. stand on the shoulders of women make sure you stay around. stay here, everybody. president barack obama won big with women in 2012. can he help hillary clinton do like ms. wiggins. it this year? i just applaud her for her strength. >> listen, regarding the church, we don't know what happened and saving so much money on their car insurance there in the church. the church -- there was a by switching to geico... burning of that church and a well, just look at this setting. vote trump on the side but we do you have the ring? don't know who was behind it. oh, helzberg diamonds. sarah, what did you think of the another beautiful setting. woman. >> i agree with bakari. think her story is powerful and i'm not crying. was tough to hear, but like you i've just got a bit of sand in my eyes, that's all. said donald trump was 17 at the geico. time. that certainly wasn't action fifteen minutes could save you that he took. fifteen percent or more on car insurance. look, donald trump and the campaign itself have disavowed it's your tv, take it with you. and rebuked time and time again with directv and at&t, watch all your live channels, on your devices, data-free. all forms of bigotry and racism, switch to directv and lock in your price for 2 years. and certainly don't condone it or support it.
offers starting at $50/month. to try to paint donald trump as a racist i think is wrong, and i think frankly it is very dishonest and a dangerous road to go down. i don't think that helps create the type of unity we want in our country, and i certainly think it is a very terrible trajectory that, frankly, the clinton campaign is trying to paint. i think she is using this as a distraction to take away from the fact she is under investigation, multiple investigations by the fbi. >> but -- >> i don't think most americans think, and they certainly shouldn't, that donald trump is racist because he isn't. he has empowered hundreds of african-americans at his company, hired them, put them in places of executive office. >> he has to do that by law. as an employer he must do it by law. >> he doesn't have to do it on his campaign and he does. >> let me just ask this question. i mean what is hillary clinton -- because we've gone down this road and people always say that all of a sudden you're playing the race card or this or that. but what has hillary clinton said about donald trump and his issues and his interactions with race that have been false? i mean there's inning false.
i mean he did -- his company, his father's company, him, they were both sued for housing discrimination. he has not apologized to the central park five. he leld the birther movement. >> i went to central high, i think i know a little bit about the school. i graduated from central high. >> i said central park five. >> i thought he said central high. >> no, i understand central safety doesn't come in a box. high, but, no, central park it's not a banner that goes on a wall. five. >> yeah. >> so when you have these instances of race, i mean, yeah, it's not something you do now and then. okay, we're playing the race card. that means it must be full of or when it's convenient. facts. >> no, it is the fact you are it's using state-of-the-art simulators trying to paint him as something to better prepare for any situation. that he isn't and you're trying it's giving offshore teams onshore support. to make him accountable for actions of other people like and it's empowering anyone to stop a job david duke when he wasn't. i think it is hillary's way of making it a distraction from her if something doesn't seem right. own failed record. she wants to do anything she can at bp, safety is never being satisfied. to talk about the fact she is and always working to be better. under investigation by the fbi, which all but disqualifies her. >> we're talking about not the david duke thing, but about the woman. >> i think that woman's testimony should make us all reflect. it should make us all sad, break
our hearts. this is not ancient history. this is living history. she is telling her living story. and it should make us reflect on how badly this debate, this rhetoric, this campaign rhetoric has gone. it has been way too divisive, too much hatred. too much division has been injected into this campaign and we must as americans figure out a way to come together november 9th. we just have got to do it. >> mo' matter what happens, i agree. >> there has been people screaming jews s.a. at the press. people accusing the press of back with my guests. taking shackles to do this. kerstin is on the attack. immigrants have been bashed and does she have a choice though? bashed all over again. this must stop. this unbridled passion, this >> well, yeah because she does have some great surrogates who unbridled anger that's out there can be doing a lot of the must stop and we must do it attacking for her and if you look at what we're seeing, this because of ladies like her. >> andre, i'm out of time. sort of new hillary coalition, she's not doing as well with i will see you later on the
show. >> oh. >> sorry about that. thank you very much, everyone. black voters but she's doing a great discussion. great discussion. we will be right back. lot better with hispanic voters -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com than barack obama did. so her coalition is sort of looking more like -- we're looking at early voting, more white liberals voting for her, and more hispanics. fewer millennials and fewer black voters, and so if you look at a state like north carolina she doesn't have -- she can't balance out the low african-american and latino vote because there's very high african-american vote there around 20 plus percent and around 3% latinos so she needs to think about the message and she's doing particularly bad with black millennial. who are looking for a much more hopeful message. these are obama's surge voters who came out because they love the hope in change -- >> the sanders people. >> -- so telling them he's bad isn't going to motivate them. >> the sanders coalition. >> right. >> i think it's worth saying too that clinton campaign's fighting a war on a couple fronts. they're fighting with donald
trump, but they're also fighting with the fbi director. they took him on immediately after it was revealed that he was reopening the investigation or looking back into the e-mail server, and it's funny, i was talking to a democratic strategist not aligned with clinton campaign tonight and unbeknownst to me, this strategy just came out to said to me i can't believe they went after director comey. that was the stupidest thing they could have done and i said well why, that's the only thing they could do. the strategist should have said you know what, they should have embraced comey and said look, the guy's just doing his job, we have nothing to hide, we have nothing to hide. we hope he can do a thorough job, and that was kind of interesting, it hadn't crossed my mind, but i wonder if they had done that, would this be playing out a little bit better for them. >> i think alan dershowtiz is on for two nights in a row and said very similar things on monday and tuesday. >> you notice she stopped.
>> she stopped. >> she has stopped. >> but also i've heard strategists say it could work in her favor if people see her as the victim and this in some way is partisan because there are reports it's a partisan attack there is report in the guardian saying it's trump left hand at the fbi. it could turnout the other way. i don't know if it will, but strategies are also saying that. >> i think that they can turn something like hillary clinton's into a fighter. and she never gives up and she will always continue to fight and fight for you. >> which is what donald trump said you're a strong lady and you don't give up. >> right. i think going after the fbi was keen of a reflexive action. lots of democrats did it, lots of republicans were surprised by it. and i think that she ought to train her eye more on donald trump, which is what she is doing, and -- and that is what barack obama's doing.
what's interesting in this campaign now and we're still in a very negative phase. we haven't gotten to the closing arguments and the hope and change stuff, and when i was listening to president obama, i was -- and him campaigning for hillary clinton, he was talking about what would happen, how awful it would be, and his bases, and democrats and his voters if donald trump were elected and i thought that's interesting because that's not the barack obama i saw when he first ran for office, he was all about hope, and now, what they're doing, is rallying their base, trying to get out their voters, and the way to do it is to remind them what they dislike about donald trump and what scares them. >> let's play some of that because -- >> so not only is hillary clinton doing that but the president is. ♪ >> he specifically talking about women and minorities today. here's the president. >> yep. >> if you disrespected women he retweets white before you were in office, you will disrespect women as president. supremacist and spreads racially-tinged conspiracy
theories. >> hillary clinton attacking donald trump and focusing on if you accept the support of african-american voters. and these great medal of klan sympathizers before you are honor recipients behind me, to think of her being their boss? president, you will accept their support after you are president. >> donald trump goes after if you discriminate before you are president, then that is what hillary clinton, raises some high brows as he reaches out to you will do in office except you will have more power to carry veterans. >> all of this as two new battleground polls show the race out the twisted notions that you too close to call with just had before you were in office. >> as you said, she has powerful surrogates. you don't get more powerful than the current president and the first lady being your surrogate. do you think it resonates with women and minorities, that message? >> yeah, i definitely do, i think he is a great mess i think injury as well. you know because they really are so good at talking about these issues in a way that doesn't sound angry, necessarily.
it sounds righteous, right, but it doesn't -- it's not off putting i think. so president obama today was at his absolute best. i would put it up with one of his best speeches of all time and he's given so many great speeches. so he's completely on fire and he's doing a great job. so i don't think hillary can't -- hillary can criticize trump it's just that she needs to also be giving a more positive, hopeful message and speaking maybe to the issues that matter to the voters that aren't turning out, millennial and the black voters. >> he's doing a bit of code switching today, come on, y'all, man, especially in north carolina. right? it was -- it's fun to watch. thank you all. i appreciate it. stay with cnn for all day coverage on election day, tuesday. up next, melania trump making a rare appearance on the campaign trail, denounces bullying, which has to make you wonder has she ever seen what her husband says on twitter?
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raes with five days to go until the election. many americans will be glad to see this campaign come to an end, but what about the course language, the incendiary rhetoric, the lack of civility, that has defined this election? here to discuss this is nicholas christoff from the "new york times." thank you for joining us. i think this election has set a low bar when it comes to what's going on. and then today, melania trump gave a rare speech. and she said everyone say whoa when she said this. listen. >> our culture has gotten too mean and too rough, especially to children and teenagers. it is never okay when a 12-year-old girl or boy is mocked, bullied, or attacked. it is terrible when that happens on the playground and it is absolutely unacceptable when it's done by someone with no name hiding on the internet.
we have to find a better way to talk to each other, to disagree with each other, to respect each other. we must find better ways to honor and support the basic goodness of our children, especially in social media. >> so bullying children is terrible. it is -- you know, and it's an admirable quest for her -- initiative if she wants to do that, but it is also terrible when a presidential candidate mocks and bullies and attacks people, everyone else say, you know, on twitter, for years on end, what did you think when you heard this. >> i thought three possibilities, so one is that secret endorsement by melania of clinton. seems unlikely.
another is just the height of hippo crass y given that nobody has done more to -- you know, to attack the disabled, to attack latinos, to attack muslims, to attack fellow republican candidates, to attack journalists, women, miss piggy, miss housekeeping, john mccain, or maybe it was total obliviousness. >> i mean, clearly. come on, the campaign, right, this was their strategy, because if you believe the abc interview, or her reaction, she doesn't realize she was going to be giving two speeches as he said, so this was clearly not her idea to do this and then she -- but this is strategized, so why would they -- why would they have had this strategy? >> i think it's a misfire, but because the moment melania talks about bullying, what is everybody going to think of? they are going to think, if you want to talk to people about addressing bullying, then how about your pillow talk. talk to donald.
>> you may recognize this paper. >> i think i've heard of that paper. >> look at this. at times, all the places and things that donald trump has insulted, just on twitter, this is -- >> 282 people. >> since the start of this campaign, it is -- it's unprecedented. so that's why -- listen, not to beat up on melania trump, but just on the -- you know, the strategy of having her do this, like -- >> yeah, i think it's great. essentially in this campaign, when people are talking about hillary clinton then trump benefits, when people are talking about trump, clinton benefits and melania's comments immediately turn the conversation back to trump and his bullying and his meanness, so i think from that point of view is a mistake. >> so when you were talking about basically the trump effect here, how it's spreading, i'm going to put this up. this is a texas agriculture commissioner, name is sid miller he tweeted this on tuesday and identifies trump as trump and secretary clinton as the "c"
word. he said it was a re-tweet and in virginia, the parents of students are upset with a high school principal and his secretary for dressing up as hillary clinton and donald trump. hillary clinton in prison garg -- garb, in orange. these are educators. do you think they have the license now to act disrespectful in part because of what's happening on the campaign trail? >> look, individuals are always going to post obnoxious tweets and individuals are always going to have halloween costumes, but i do think that donald trump has essentially given license to his supporters to say things that he would not otherwise say. at his campaign rallies, as you know there are people shouting not just lock her up, but things like "hang the bitch," and i'm from rural oregon a town right on the edge of atlantic valley, it traditionally was white. latinos had moved in. in this area you see the social fabric coming in because there
was certainly resentment for years but white kids in the schools have now been -- one of the local schools hanging banners saying "build a wall," in physics class, saying "build a wall," and targeting latino kids in ways that can't be redressed and solved on monday night. i mean, there is tearing of the social fabric and it will take time to heal. >> kkk leader, david duke, former knight of the kkk, he's running for u.s. senate in louisiana, and during a debate, just a few things that happened during that debate, okay? duke said inflammatory things about black lives matter and hillary clinton should get the electric chair. when asked about a term he uses "cnn jews", that's his term, duke said, quote, there is a problem in america with a very strong powerful tribal group that dominates the international banking.
i'm not opposed to all jews, i think he also said he'd be donald trump's greatest advocate. how is this happening in a debate for the seat for the united states senate and this is someone who is clearly a big supporter of donald trump who said you know i don't know if he endorses him in the beginning and then denounced him. >> i think one of the problems has been the fragmentation if you will, in the media, we all like to complain about political correctness, but in a certain civility, people felt things they were unwilling to say because they thought they would get in trouble if they did. and these days increasingly, people get their information from you know maybe alt-right web sites, and i think in that context, they feel they can say crude, vile, racist, or sexist things and they feel liberated to say that in part because someone who reflect this is is now nominee for president and running in a very tight race. >> and that's what nicholas
christophe writes about in his opinion column today. >> let's be clear i am a lib tongue in cheek. >> and you said let's be clear on how it happens. >> there are a lot of people who feel that they then left out and trump in a sense is empowering -- empowering them to say things they never could have before. >> thank you, nick. >> great to be with you again. >> appreciate t always. when we come back you heard what melania says about online bullying so how does her husband get away with all those mean tweets?
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so let's talk about the big campaign speech today for melania trump. she spoke out against online bullying. i wonder if it was a surprise to her husband. here, is cnn advisor to donald trump, and anna navarro, and bakari seles is here and andre bauer, former lieutenant governor of south carolina. that's a very admiral cause, but can we just -- i want to start with you, ana, i want to start with online bullying and what she said. she talked about how horrible
it is when someone hides behind the internet and attacks children. donald trump who is her husband has called me a light weight, dumb as a rock. he's called you a flunky, one of the dumbest people in politics, said you had no persona. >> that was on a day he liked me. >> that was a day i disagree for the record, maybe he's right, who knows.