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i believe it will be a lot of people who look like me and a lot of beautiful people who look like you who voted for donald trump today. >> what about me? i'm beautiful. >> i knew somehow preston would get the last word. talking about his beauty. who would have thought. >> fact-check that. >> thank you. cnn's election night coverage continues now. welcome to our viewers in the united states and around the world. i'm jake tapper in washington, d.c., and there is just one single lead on "the lead" right now. nash, global, political, metaphysical, all wrapped up in one millions of americans going to the polls choosing either the first female president or the first president to have never served in government or in the military beforehand. a true outsider. whomever wins, it will be one for the books. and signs are, voters know that. turnout appears to be quite heavy. we have seen hillary clinton and donald trump and their
respective running mates casting their ballots. we are about an hour away from the first exit poll data and three hours from the first statewide poll closing. we've also seen the trump campaign fire the first legal shot over actual balloting in nevada, and we have just seen a judge answer. we have correspondents out across the country. we'll begin with sara murray at trump election night headquarters in midtown manhattan. what is trump doing today. where will he be watching the returns? >> reporter: well, jake, donald trump is at trump tower today. i just want you to think for a second about what it is like for him in these final hours. he has spent nearly a year and a half running for president. he has never done this before. at this point really all you can do is wait. your ads are on the air. your field staffers are out in battleground states. so donald trump is there in trump tower. he passed through the war room they have set up there earlier. i'm told he was greeted with a standing ovation at trump tower. he is, you know, touching base
in some battleground states. he did a couple of radio interviews. essentially just waiting. we are expecting him to stay there this evening to watch the returns there and later on he'll head over to the hilltton for h victory party. >> sara, the trump campaign filed a request with the nevada court to try to preserve and separate ballots from voting machines in four early voting sites in nevada. why did they do that and what is the status of that request? >> reporter: that's right. we saw donald trump himself talking about this over the weekend when he was campaigning in nevada. they were particularly concerned about a number of polling places. they told cnn that they stayed open so that the people in line could vote. the trump campaign felt like they are unfairly stayed open late. and that's why they put in this legal challenge. the judge did rule from the bench essentially denying their request. and look, these are areas where we saw heavy latino turnout in nevada, obviously there will be
a big election-day vote there as well. so waiting to see how that all pans out for the trump campaign. it was certainly something they were worried out going into today, jake. >> sara, thank you. hillary clinton will be heading out any moment now from the family home in chappaqua, new york, for perhaps, perhaps, maybe, the last time before her life changes in ways that no american woman's life has ever changed. she will be spending the afternoon in a midtown manhattan hotel, a very nice one, before going to new york's big convention center which is named for one of her senate pr predecessors. jacob javits. jeff zeleny joins us live from new york. we saw hillary clinton voting early this morning in chappaqua, new york. what's she been doing since then? >> reporter: she flew back to new york after a final midnight rally in north carolina. as i watched her get off the plane, you could see there was a
bit of confidence in her as she is closing this campaign. they believe this campaign is in a better position than it was a few days ago. you get a sense of where they are still trying to turn out the vote by the number of radio interviews she has done throughout the day. detroit is one. charlotte is one. raleigh is one. new hampshire stations. so those are states she is definitely trying to get her voice into. and she is trying to get out the vote there. now, she will be coming to manhattan to watch those returns in the peninsula hotel. and then she will be coming here to the javits center where thousands of people will be gathering here beneath a glass ceiling, if you can see it above me here. that's a metaphor that i am guessing we'll hear throughout the evening. the stage she'll speak on behind me as well is in the shape of the united states of america. once we see the shots later this evening, that's some of the theatrics and stage craft happening here at the javits center for what they hope will be a victory party. >> getting updates from her war
room, taking in all the information about where they think voter turnout is not as high as it needs to be. indicated to you which states they feel most confident about in terms of the very contested battleground states and which ones they are still concerned about? >> reporter: florida seems to talk the list when you talk to advisors here and on the ground in florida as a state they feel confident about, largely because of the boost of early vote. so much has changed since the florida recount 16 years ago. so much early voting has happened. so florida, they believe they have an advantage because of the early vote. other votes that they are keeping an eye on, other states they're keeping an eye on, michigan. michigan has emerged as a ground zero battleground state. in the final hours and days of campaign, they were slightly nervous about what's happening on the ground in michigan as well as north carolina. if there is one battleground state they think they can definitely win but they're not sure, the 15 electoral votes in north carolina are on their mind. they're trying to get out the
vote there for several hours yet. there are several hours left of voting. so those are the states they're focusing on right now, jake. >> jeff zeleny, thanks. here is something you may have noticed, especially if you are a new yorker. for the first time that we can remember, both election night headquarters will be in manhattan! not just manhattan. both of them will be in midtown manhattan. you can walk the distance if the weather is nice. the pizza eating rat doesn't hassle you. in 20 minutes. joining us now, clinton press connecticut brian fallon. thanks for joining us. polls tightening in the recent weeks. what's the one state you're most concerned about right now? >> well, jake, to be honest with you, woe're feeling pretty good right now. to give you a sense of one of the critical battleground states we've been watching all day. florida. a state donald trump must win. if he doesn't win florida it's game over for trump. not only did we see strong performance in terms of the
early vote. latinos in particular. a million latinos voting in the early voting phase in florida, more than double 2012 early voting levels. in terms of the vote that we're seeing today, if you look at a heavily democratic county like broward county, home of ft. lauderdale, a big county along with miami-dade in southern florida, as of 3:00 today we were looking at about 98% of the ballots returned already. that's even before the afternoon post-work shift. similar numbers in terms of the pace compared to 2012 in hillsborough county in the tampa area. close to 100% already at 3:00 today compared to 2012 levels of turnout. and so, if we can stay on that pace and we have that type of turnout in those democratic performing counties in florida, we think that this could be a very strong night for hillary clinton. >> brian, i asked you about the state you're most concerned about and you told me about the one you're least concerned about
in terms of the battlegrounds. let me ask you about ohio. i heard that turnout in cuyahoga county, cleveland, is not where you want it to be. are you worried about ohio? >> ohio is a state donald trump absolutely needs. if we're able to win a state like pennsylvania and hold on to michigan, both of which we feel confident about, it requires donald trump to essentially run the table of the states that remain. he will have to win ohio. he'll have to win iowa, north carolina, and florida. so ohio is a must-win for donald trump. as we have been monitoring the vote today we were pleased with the early vote patterns in ohio. we have seen turnout numbers in cuyahoga county, franklin and hamilton county that make us optimistic. but we'll watch closely as the night proceeds. this afternoon a nevada court denied a request from the donald trump campaign to
separate ballots from four early voting sites in clark county. do you expect there to be more legal challenges like this one, perhaps even many more, before this is all over? >> well, jake, this challenge was completely frivolous. and we are pleased that the judge acted so quickly to smack it down. it is a fact. everybody knows and everybody watching your program that is thinking of still turning out later today should know, if you are in line at the time when polling closes you are allowed to vote as long as you're in line. that's all that they were accommodating in clark county, nevada, that's now coming under challenge from the trump campaign. they're suggesting it was an unlawful extension of the voting hours in clark county. that's not at all the case. they were following the rules. another example of nevada of you seeing record latino turnout. in clark county you were seeing the long lines, they were being tweeted out at the grocery market last friday night. and that's a big reason why john
ralston, who is the guru about nevada, is saying donald trump has an insurmountable deficit at this point. the trump campaign was waging a completely frivolous challenge there. we wouldn't be surprised if they try it in other states too. he may be trying to sow the seeds for questioning the legitimacy of the outcome tonight. you've already seen republicans distance themselves from his efforts to do that. >> brian, one last question for you. i know you don't know what's going to happen tonight. none of us have any idea what's going to happen tonight. in the event that hillary clinton does win, there has been talk about whether or not donald trump will concede. how much are you considering that in terms of what you do going forward if the networks do declare the race won by her? >> well, you just made a great point, jake, which is the networks like cnn, the associated press, news organizations, they make the judgment call about who the winner is based on the raw vote
totals. that's how it should be made. nothing depends on donald trump making a -- refusing to make a concession even in light of compelling data that the race has been won. and so that will be a big part, i think, in resolving that, even if donald trump refuses to acknowledge reality. another thing i think will suppress donald trump's ability to try to call anything into question is the fact that so many of these battleground states, the elections are administered by republican secretaries of state who have spoken out in the weeks leading up to today saying there is no basis to question the election results in their state. these are people who will be out there in the days after saying the elections were properly conducted. national election leaders like reince priebus and speaker ryan will not indulge attempts by donald trump to litigate this if the result is decisive tonight. >> brian fallon. thank you so much. appreciate it. more ahead as we count down to the exit polling and the actual results. we'll take a break and be right
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turnout appears heavy. looks like voters want to be a part of history today one way or the other. we have correspondents across the country tonight. let's go to gary tuchman in north carolina. gary. >> reporter: in this battleground state there are about ten million people who live here. 6.9 million are registered voters. those 6.9 million people are coveted by the candidates. and that's why so many are turning out at polling places across the state. this is a church in the heart of charlotte, north carolina. it's now one of the 2700 precincts. no voter i.d. is necessary in the state of north carolina. people come to this table, fill out a form with their name and address. they take the form to this table where it's verified that they are in this precinct. folks, you excited about voting? [ cheers ] >> reporter: you followed the election closely? >> yeah. >> reporter: you are excited? >> yeah.
they're motivated. there has been a line the entire time. they get their address confirmed and they have the video screens. they have the presidential election here and a close gubernatorial race and senate race. the decision about the senate race could ultimately determine which party controls the senate. elaborate early voting here, lasted 16 days. 3 3.1 people voted early, 45% of the total number of registered voters even before anybody turned out today. >> a lot going out in the tar heel state. let's check in with miguel marques in pittsburgh, pennsylvania. miguel. >> reporter: yeah. it is very, very -- it's begin from busy here in washington county to ridiculously busy. we have a drone up so you can see how long the line is now. it's gotten longer in the last few minutes. this is trump county.
it will give you an idea of what this area is like. this is the last bit of politicking that voters see as they walk into the polls here. this gentleman, the line is so long, he has the right idea. he brought the chair. no beer and chicken, but he is enjoying it while he can. the line i can show you goes all the way down here. this is about an hour-long line to the end of this sidewalk. and now it's snaking around back into the parking lot. this is almost as long as we've seen it all day, probably about an hour and a half, two-hour line at this point. this is a county that has more democrats than republicans but tends to vote republican. hillary clinton opened an office here, but donald trump needs voters in washington county and other rural counties to come out in huge numbers to keep up with her in the cities, both philly and in pittsburgh. very, very heavy turnout here. no early voting across pennsylvania, as you know. so we will know what pennsylvanians think at 8:00 p.m. tonight. jake.
>> miguel. thank you so much. the trump forces are counting on doing at least all right in western pennsylvania. while the clinton campaign needs to pile up votes on the other end of the state, namely the areas around philadelphia and the city of philadelphia. we'll watch both ends of the state. there are plenty more crucial spots on the map. cnn "inside politics" anchor john king joins us with a quick overview. >> 20, 30, maybe 40 counties i'll look at through the night depending on how close it is. back to the 2012 map here. we start to get early poll closings in the 6:00 hour and into the 7:00 hour out into indiana. indiana we expect to be red. mike pence is from indiana. traditionally red state. vigo county has a pretty good track record. only been wrong twice in the last 100 years. 15 elections in a row it's picked the winner in presidential politics. barely for president obama last time. we'll watch that as the indiana results come in early. moving to the east. we'll get some kentucky results.
again, kentucky is most likely going to be red for donald trump. we can do a little csi, some clues. how is he doing in coal country? communities like this you can find in southern ohio and over in virginia. clinton has been consistently ahead in virginia. we'll want to watch is donald trump running it up here in the rural areas? how is he doing in the washington suburbs like prince william county not far from here. used to be republican. look how much president obama won it four years ago. democrats doing better with the college-educated suburban white voters and there has been a latino explosion in prince william county. even if clinton is winning virginia, the margin may tell us a lot about how donald trump will do in other places, notably north carolina to the south and the suburban vote may tell us a lot about, you mentioned, the philadelphia area. no question. they call it the t. this is your home state. you know it very well. see this red? donald trump is running it up out here. miguel was just talking about it. hillary clinton has to do well
out here. the vote count tends to come in a little slower here. as it comes in in pennsylvania in the 8:00 hour. we look at center city, philadelphia, she has to run it up by 400,000 or more votes in that area. then bucks county. and montgomery county. this is the more blue-collar county. president obama winning it 50 to 40. just barely. the last time republicans won your great home state of pennsylvania was 1988. george w. bush won these suburbs. we'll watch that tonight. a, is clinton winning the city big, is she winning the suburbs. if she is winning the suburbs, by how much. the margins matter. >> obviously donald trump wants to crack hillary clinton's blue wall which includes the equal y commonwealth of pennsylvania. are there other areas where you'll be looking to see if he is making cracks in the blue wall? >> let's start in pennsylvania. it's an 8:00 state. donald trump went to scranton yesterday. it happens to be the birthplace
of vice president joe biden. that's 1988. bringing it forward into the more recent elections. 63-36. this is an area where again democrats need to run it up in pennsylvania where you have the democratic voters. let's see. is donald trump going to carry it here? i don't think that's a safe bet. are the margins closer? that's how we'll know if pennsylvania is in play and if the blue wall may be cracked. if you see that in a place like the scranton area you may also see it in ohio, which is more republican. when you get to michigan later in the night, what about mccomb county north of detroit. home of the legendary reagan democrats. so scranton, that's where we'll look for early evidence of if the blue wall is cracking or if clinton is holding. we have cnn political commentator and conservative writer mary kathryn hamm and nia-malika hearnederson. david gergen and kirsten powers. trump supporters kaleigh mcenany and andre bauer on the far left
and right. andre, the former lieutenant governor of south carolina. in the middle of the table clinton supporters dan fifer and former philadelphia mayor michael nutter. mr. nutter let me start with you. we were talking about pennsylvania. you heard john king say the clinton team needs to rack up 400,000 votes in the city of philadelphia. will you be able to do that? is turnout that heavy? >> it's significantly hef yif. at my polling place folks were lined up at 6:30 to get ready for the polling opening at 7:00. >> is that unusual? >> it's very unusual. we'll get official election results but overall turnout is significantly up in philadelphia. we expect the same in the suburbs as well as at least in pittsburgh, harrisburg and up through the lehigh valley. those are the key areas. and erie. >> are there any specific areas you'll look at tonight to give
you an indication about how well donald trump will do? >> pennsylvania is always that elusive state that republicans think they can get and it's never quite within reach. donald trump, though, i think he is a different kind of candidate. he might get it. for me, what i am looking at is new hampshire. i think, if you look at the real clear politics averages, we can get 265 with nevada, florida, ohio and iowa. we can get 265. donald trump is winning the averages narrowly. but we need one more state. that one more state i think can be new hampshire plus maine's second congressional district. i am very happy. >> nia-malika let me ask you. how is early voting going? have you heard reports of irregularerates? >> there are also irregularities that pop up. millions and millions of people will vote today. it's hard to know based on anecdotal reports of long lines
or not long lines. we've seen in the early vote sort of a pattern that may benefit hillary clinton in states like florida and nevada. we've seen a tightening of polls in places like new hampshire and michigan as well. you always hear on a day like this -- and we've heard it throughout the campaign -- that this is the most consequential election ever. it really does feel like it. with the supreme court obviously on the line and a real guess as to what the future of the republican party looks like as well. at this point all we can do is sit and wait to see what these hundreds of millions of voters will say. >> david, what will you be looking for tonight? sno >> florida. it will come in early. one is the latino vote. it may be the sleeper story of the campaign, of the election tonight. if florida comes -- is delivered by latinos, it puts it away. but nevada and colorado, all the other states.
maybe even north carolina. the other thing is, i have been wondering during the day with this great outpouring, with so many people voting, will this possibly be a catharsis for the country? people feel they finally have had a chance to give voice and the people who win will feel like we've taken back our country. people on both sides are so angry about this. i think there is something encouraging about the fact that so many are turning out. >> dan, you are a numbers guy. you were on the obama team in '08 and '12. the obama team didn't -- that was a pretty famous team in terms of analyzing the numbers. >> sure. i think the ball game tonight is michigan and pennsylvania. the cnn map has it 268. the clinton team and obama folks looking at the early vote numbers in nevada say it's gone. michigan and pennsylvania. i think that's very, very hard if not impossible. >> andre? >> i think it's, number one, for our country it's great to have
this high participation for a change. people have really paid attention this time and hopefully are getting engaged in the process. and supporting the candidates in the future. that's the key to this country, if you want change, getting engaged. that's what i take away more than anything. it's been a divisive race from both sides. both candidates are flawed. no matter who you're supporting. tomorrow i hope we all wake up with a positive outlook that our country will move forward and we'll all try to be a bigger part of what makes this country great and that is having a bigger voice. we talked earlier about marco rubio looking like he is doing very well in florida. i think that's interesting to study as well. many days after this election is over with we'll all study this thing, scratching our heads. the republicans are going to have to look at how to tap into that latino vote no matter what happens today, to write that much of the electoral vote off i think is wrong. those people i think will come home to the republican party in the end.
>> mary katharine, you voted in virginia. i won't ask you who you voted for. were the lines long? was there an active, excited ele ele electora electorate? >> at mid-morning they've never been wrong in presidential elections. so much has to fall for donald trump. a couple lucky breaks and to get a little southern on you, it's like covering your grill in a hurricane. there is only so much you can hold down at one time. like, some corners will fly up. i think that's the challenge that he faces. >> and you voted also. i won't ask you who you voted for. what are you looking for tonight, kirsten? >> the same as david. florida. it comes early and it will tell us a lot. obviously he can't win without florida. so democrats are actually feeling pretty good about florida. it could be over early if that happens. in a sort of broader sense, i am really interested, we're watching the latino vote, but the women's vote. it's possible to hillary clinton
could win married woman for the first time since a product -- since her husband -- a democrat last time won, was her husband. we'll watch the swing, probably from romney being up among college white women, educated women, to maybe swinging in the favor of the democrat. this is momentous. >> lots more to talk about. some breaking news. we just learned senator lindsey graham of south carolina has voted, and he did not vote for donald trump. instead, he voted for conservative evan mcmullin. that and more to talk about ahead. we are expecting to get the first wave of exit polls in about 30 minutes. these are still early hours in a marathon night of election coverage. our political team and correspondents are spread across the country to bring you all the developments as they happen. stay with us.
election day 2016. a day that frankly could not come soon enough for many americans after one of the nastiest and most divisive presidential campaigns in american history. millions of americans are casting their votes today, making their voices heard at the ballot box. the outcome of this historic election now in their hands, in your hands. donald trump, meanwhile, still refusing to commit to accepting the results. he equivocated with an interview with a tampa bay radio station this morning. we'll bring you complete coverage of exit polling. jessica schneider is in warren, michigan, a battleground state, kind of surprisingly. >> reporter: it is surprising, jake. the candidates have been focusing a lot of energy here. them along with their surrogates. i am in mccomb county right now, one of the counties that donald trump is counting on. it's home of the reagan democrats, the blue-collar suburbs of detroit. donald trump hoping his message
of jobs and trade resonate here. i just got off the phone with the county executive here. he says the turnout already has been incredible. you can see inside this polling area right now. we are not allowed inside but there has been a steady stream of people. this is where three different precincts are voting throughout the day. this is what it's been like all day long. five miles down the road i heard there is about a two-hour wait. the county executive telling me they should be on track to hit the same sort of record turnout that they saw back in 1980, as well as 2008. we are talking about 69% of registered voters showing up today, a big day. mccomb county, interestingly, though donald trump is counting on this county as one of the ones that might be able to push him over the brink here in michigan, mccomb county itself, it voted for president obama in 2008 and 2012, so hillary clinton, of course, hoping that that holds true for this election. but it is a county in flux. as i talked to the county executive. he says it is a county divided.
so at this point, uncertain which way it could go. could mean big things for donald trump or hillary clinton. all eyes on michigan when just about two weeks ago we weren't even sure this was a state we had to look twice at. >> jessica schneider, thank you so much. even before polls opened in nevada this morning donald trump and his campaign were trying to dispute the results to a degree. lawyers filing a lawsuit last night over early voting in that state. a short time ago a judge ruled against the trump campaign. jim sciutto joins us with the latest on that. when trump was the at the polls in new york he talked about it. >> reporter: this morning trump was talking about a particular kind of voter fraud for which we found no evidence. that is people going to machines, voting republicans and the machines automatically switching the votes to democrat. we haven't seen evidence of that being widespread in any way. in nevada the case was about keeping polling stations open
later than their initial closing time, this during early voting in nevada. but in truth, this complies with state law. what it is is, people who show up and they're still in line when that voting station, polling station, is meant to close. they're allowed to go in and get that vote even if it takes them another hour to get in the building. that's what happened in four nevada polling precincts. trump taking issue with that. to perhaps lay the groundwork for a legal challenge after the election they went to a judge and they said, we want these records preserved. we want to know who voted before the assigned closing time and who voted after. the judge was very quick to dismiss the case. listen to how she handled it. >> why would we issue a writ of mandate. there is no need to. he is obligated to did it already. i can't obligate him to do something he's already obligated to do. he is already obligated to do it! >> reporter: the judge's point being there that that's something they already do. they already keep records like
that. it was also interesting. she also took issue with the trump campaign. the lawyer was asking for the names of polling workers who worked at those sites to potentially make them public. she said there is no way i'm going to do that. have you seen how twitter trolls, in effect, handle people like that. keeping that information private so that they weren't unleashed with twitter traffic or other criticism from folks who thought they might not have been doing their jobs right. >> even though, jim, polls are still open, we are getting some information in. what are you learning? >> reporter: that's right. this on voter turnout. at this point it's largely anecdotal because you can't make a final calculation as to what the turnout will be across the country. i am just going to give you what we are hearing from a number of key states. in alabama we got a report in in the last few minutes from the deputy director for the secretary of alabama saying they have never seen turnout this high. in his words, some people have compared it to game day.
that's in alabama. in mississippi. very high turnout up through the morning, more than they've seen. in connecticut we're seeing similar reports of long lines there, longer than usual according to the state attorney general. in virginia, turnout way up. so at least state by state and, as you know, some of these key states here, virginia included, at least from the secretaries of state, early reports are they're seeing turnout higher than normal. jake. >> jim sciutto, thanks. back with my panel now. mary katharine. we were talking just a minute ago about latino voters and women voters and whether or not they have some sort of momentous impact on this election, the suggestion being that they might help hillary clinton. as i recall from the republican national committee's autopsy about what went wrong in 2012, one of the things that that autopsy concluded was that republicans need to do a better job going after latino voters and women voters. do you think there is a chance going forward that maybe republicans will consider that those two groups actually should be wooed?
>> sometimes one wonders if they read that report and just decided, let's do the opposite. the trump campaign makes an argument that we are reaching certain segments of these voters. look, i think it will be a tough, uphill battle and it was also before, to get those folks to feel like you cared about them and then to listen to your policies, which are the steps you have to take. i think trump did a very good job of that with white working class voters but reaching out to the new groups will be tougher when there has been this surge for democrats, which i think you'll see some of tonight. the thing is, too, with young voters, they lock in that preference. >> interesting to see how rubio does in florida. that will be a test case in terms of his future. i mean, he had always argued that he was the one who could broaden the party, attract latinos. you saw 103% spike in the latino vote from 2008 to now. it will be interesting if you see that he does well with that
hispanic vote, which isn't as cuban as it used to be. it used to be very cuban and much more republican, more puerto ricans, more dominicans as well. i think that will be a very interesting kind of frame to see not only rubio's future, the voting patterns of latinos and how republicans might be able to track that. >> jake, i would think that if latinos deliver florida and possibly a couple of other states, there is going to -- it will put enormous pressure on republicans in the next session of congress to get an immigration bill passed. to continue down the road trump as taken them without an immigration bill is suicidal for the party. >> do you think that democrats, conversely, have an obligation to try to figure out how they lost white working-class voters which used to vote for democrats decades ago? if hillary clinton wins, does she need to reach out to this group in some ways which didn't support her?
>> yes. i think that's something the democrats will definitely be looking at. in erms terms of the republican party, the problem they had before this, they went attracting women and latinos. now they're repelling them. the problem is that a lot of loins and a lot of women stood by and watched these other republican leaders sort of tarnish themselves by not standing up against trump. and so now they're in an even deeper hole is my point, i guess. they have to dig themselves out from an even deeper hole of convincing people -- of the basic threshold of trust. >> are we writing the headline of latinos deliver the election for clinton a little prematurely. >> of course. if. >> i don't believe all the latinos that turn out can just be given to hillary clinton. a number of latinos care deeply about the economy. cubans in particular.
they have an aversion to kind of totalitarian rule, some of the executive power issues we have seen come out of president obama. i think there are going to be latinos who do show up for trump. i am not suggesting he'll win a majority, but i think there will be an at least 20 or 30% to vote for donald trump. >> i'll give you credit, kaleigh, for the high-level academic argument. i think the problem here is they did read the memo. they misunderstood the word "go after." they went after them by insulting them this is a coalition of the insulted now coming together. the problem here is, yes, latinos, african-americans, muslims, whatever group you want to talk about, care about those issues. it's tough to talk about something when someone has insulted you and punched you in the face. we'll take a quick break. much more with the panel ahead. the first exit poll data coming within the next 20 minutes.
some late word from donald trump. he is tweeting. i am not sure how accurate the tweet is. here is the tweet. just out according to cnn, utah officials report voting machine problems across entire country. in point of fact, cnn is not reporting that. the problem is problems across the county, a county, not the country.
as mr. trump tweeted. the difference of an "r," but kind of an important one. heavy turnout across the country and not just at the polls. in rochester, new york, people lining up not only to vote but also to honor a leader of women's suffrage. activist susan b. anthony. some have left their voting stickers at her grave site on her grave. susan is in columbus, ohio. >> reporter: hey, jake. it has been very active, very busy at this polling station here. we are at life church at easton. part of franklin county, three precincts voting here. 2400 people are expected to vote. more than 500 have actually cast early ballots. unlike some of the other polling stations, about 70% in ohio that depend on paper ballots, you have 16 voting machines here that they are able to use. and voters actually have an option in terms of whether or not they want to use the voting
machines or the paper ballots. these are the paper ballots. i want to go to our friend jeff here. this is the first time you've had media here. observers. this is a really big deal. a lot of people have been asking questions about security in the ballot security. how do you do this? there are three different copies in the machines? >> that's right. the machine itself has memory where the votes are stored. there is a removable memory cartridge that has the second set of the vote. and there is a paper printout of every choice that every voter made. so that -- >> sui am sorry, susan. i need to interrupt you. >> reporter: we'll take it back to you, jake. >> i am being told we need to bring you live pictures of former secretary hillary clinton and her motorcade leaving their compound in chappaqua, new york, going downtown to midtown manhattan, where she'll watch the returns in a hotel. and so there are those live
pictures of secretary clinton leaving and proceeding to go downtown to new york city. thank you so much for the report. the first polls will close a little more than an hour from now in parts of indiana and kentucky with the rest of the country following throughout the evening. it will be a while before cnn or anyone will be able to call any of the states. we'll get the first exit polling information in a few minutes. cnn political director david chalian joins me. what kind of information are we expecting to see in the exit polls? >> these are interviews we do across the country as people are leaving the polls telling us how they voted and why they voted. the kind of information we look for right away is sort of the makeup of the electorate, along racial lines, age, education, gender. these are the kinds of things that will sort of look and give us the tapestry of what the electorate looks like tonight
and does it look different than it did four years ago and in what ways and how it might be advantageous for one candidate or the other. the other thing we look at is what people were looking for when they went to the polls today. the quality of the candidates. when did they make up their mind, the voter behavior. the makeup of the electorate and why the voters are making the choices they are making today. >> back with our panel. dan pfeiffer, what will you be looking for in the first wave of exit poll results? >> are we seeing the obama coalition turning out. if that is the case hillary clinton will win. if we're seeing depression in latino, african-american and increase in older white males. that's good for donald trump. >> andre. >> he hit it spot on. did trump turn out the working-class voters in pennsylvania, in florida, in michigan. i mean, the fact that michigan is now on the table speaks a
lot. i don't think donald trump gets enough credit. we are talking about an individual that had no political experience who took on the media, he took on his own party, the democratic party, the unions. you name it. the u.n. you can laugh if you want, but he took on discussions that we have needed for a long time as a country. a lot of times it alienates voters but that doesn't mean leaders shouldn't engage in the discussions. i am thankful that he engaged in these discussions. not all of them by any stretch of the imagination. but it was a different approach. he said we need a wall. we need a border in this country. nobody who is a u.s. citizen should have a problem with that. the fact that we argue that i am shocked over. but this is different. he actually -- it's a mazing what he's done. nobody give him credit early on. the fact that we're even talking about michigan shows that he's hit a real nerve in this country. >> mr. mayor. >> i am looking for soon to be congressman dwight evans and the
west-northwest coalition driving that number in the city. >> 400,000. >> net positive out of philadelphia. similar significant activity in the philly suburbs and over in the western side of the state, put it all together, hillary clinton wins pennsylvania, probably five to seven points. >> shoutouts to your pennsylvania friends. >> what are you looking for? >> exit polls. income levels and voters without a college degree. if the polls are off one to three points, voters didn't answer pollsters and admit they were going to vote trump it will be among those voters in michigan, pennsylvania, wisconsin is a stretch but maybe wisconsin. i'll be looking for heavy turnout from that demographic. if they turn out, donald trump will be the next president of the united states. >> kirsten? >> i think all of the issues that people raised, but then also looking at the issues, right? so if you ask people what's your top issue? do you want thing? so if they want change, i expect
them to be going donald trump. or are you looking for somebody with the temperament to be president which hillary clinton wins. what is driving people. terrorism. on the economy. he is tied or slightly up. we're looking for how these rank in terms of people's priorities. >> david, where do you come down on the debate on the idea of hidden white, working-clos voters or hidden white voters with college education who don't answer the polling questions, that they're not really there, that that's an imagination? >> well, we have seen over time in polling going back 50 years, not only in this country but in other countries, that there are tendencies for some voters to give the answer they think the person who is calling on the other end of the line is -- especially if it can be offensive in society. i think there is a possibility of a brexit type vote. you have to look out for that tonight. is it a brexit type vote or is it that the coalition sticks together. if the coalition sticks together
and the democrats win the popular vote for the sixth time in seven elections, that's historic. it means the republicans are on the wrong side of history and they really need to come back. on the other hand, if the brexit vote turns out, it's a very different reading of where we are politically. >> nia i heard pennsylvania democrats and a former governor dell who said he thinks there may be a trump under vote. people not telling pollsters because they feel they may be judged negatively for voting for donald trump. do you buy it? >> no. i think it's an absurd theory. if there is -- it seems to be like there would also be a hidden hillary clinton vote. i don't think we have seen any evidence that people -- i mean, think about donald trump's rallies. i mean, 10,000, 20,000 people. those folks don't seem shy at all. they don't -- they're people who love donald trump. this idea that someone would get on the phone and be ashamed of admitting that they like donald trump. it seems absurd.
>> they tend to live in the same areas, so they're around people who support donald trump. it doesn't make sense. >> mary katharine, what about the people in the suburbs of philadelphia or northern virginia who might be trump supporters but don't want to be judged? >> there can be marginal differences about that. anytime polling is within three points in a lot of these states it can be often. it doesn't have to be because of a giant hidden vote. if there is a hidden white worki working class vote there may be a hidden hispanic vote. in any place where it's this close it can go a different way without a giant underlying story. it's because the polling was close and we don't know the composition. >> until we know, we have to talk about it. [ laughter ] >> do you think there might be a hidden -- in the same way there might be a trump hidden undervote, there may be a clinton undervote. some of these blue-collar women who don't want to advertise that
they don't like donald trump because they're around a lot of trump supports, might feel compelled -- or maybe some of these blue-blooded republican women who don't really want to feel comfortable with that? >> i am not a big believer in the hidden vote. i don't think it will be a major factor. there is a lot of division. the white catholic vote which romney won overwhelming and trump will probably win in a smaller margin. white catholic women and men will probably split in how they vote. >> thanks, everyone. we'll take a quick break. when we come back, more coverage of election day. thank you so much. ♪ before it became a medicine, it was an idea. a wild "what-if." so scientists went to work. they examined 87 different protein structures and worked for 12 long years.
data. hillary clinton is heading into manhattan right now. she hopes that manhattan will be where she celebrates victory. donald trump is doing the same. he hopes where he'll be celebrating victory, just blocks away. checking in now with sara schneider in langhorne, pennsylvania. >> reporter: it's bucks county. a very important county. in 1988, that was the last time this county went red. that was george herbert walker bush. they helped put him into the white house. every single election since then has gone democratic. however, the trump campaign hoping that this can be a county that helps to kind of push out one of those bricks in the democratic firewall that has been pennsylvania for so many years. 1992, 1996. you name it. this has gone democratic since 1988. a very important county to watch. that is why you are also seeing very long lines here as well where we are standing. we've been seeing this pretty much all day long.
early in the morning, lots of folks. and now after work, there's a whole long line here ready to vote. jake. >> pennsylvania a key commonwealth. sarah thank you so much. thank you for joining us this hour. we continue now with wolf blitzer and anderson cooper. america votes. whatever happens next, american history is being made. will the night end with a first woman president elect. >> first exit polling data coming in now. what the numbers could say about how the night ends? early signs that it is high. >> trump forces fire the first shot in what could be a long legal battle over the election, and a judge fires back. >> i'm anderson cooper. >> i'm wolf blitzer. it's a cnn election coverage special and you're in "the situation room". a