tv Election Night in America CNN November 8, 2016 10:00pm-11:01pm PST
did tonight. donald trump represents a fundamental change to washington, d.c. and for 30 years elected officials, both republicans and democrats, have made promises they haven't kept. they have brought us into a greater deficit. we've got 21 trillion -- almost $21 trillion in debt. we're leaving our country in a worst shape than our parents left it for us in the first time in the history of our country. and what people have said was we don't want that anymore, we don't want people who make promises that have the most extensive credentials ever to serve as the president of the united states. people don't want that. they want someone who's going to tell them the truth, that's going to go and do what they say they're going to do, to bring fundamental change, and let the people decide how the country's run. that's what we're seeing tonight, is the people have listened to what the media said. they've listened to the narrative of how great the other side was, how everybody is going to join and how the hispanics are going to come out in records proportion, how donald trump is a misonly nift and a bigot and all the things we've heard the mainstream media talk about and they've stepped back and said you don't understand, we are
tired of washington, d.c. we're tired of broken promises. we're tired of people going there and forgetting about us. and we want wholesale and fundamental change. that's what's taking place. >> well, jeffrey, it also looks like he will have a republican house, and a republican senate. >> right. >> the potential for him to effect his policies is great. but there are of course real divisions within the republican party. >> and they will -- and some of them -- >> they're going to start to have to use his name. >> yes, they are. i'm looking for that. >> much more likely tomorrow i think. >> i'm sure. >> one of the things i remember attending at a white house staff meeting is the national governors association meetings. i think they're in february. and they come to the white house for a meeting. i'm just waiting to see governor kasich greet president trump. >> well, there's a traditional meeting between -- it would be between -- >> thursday. >> on thursday between president obama and the president-elect. i mean, to be a fly on the wall during that. >> exactly. i mean, change is at hand here.
and i keep going back to reagan for a purpose because he was the last president certainly on the republican side to bring that kind of change and face that kind of resistance not only as he sought the nomination and ran the election but once he got there. >> i guess the question is how capable -- a lot of promises are made during an election. donald trump has talked about things as a negotiation and that some of the conservative criticism of him early on was that too much is up for negotiation with him, negotiation or compromise can be a dirty word in washington. can -- the wall. reversing obamacare. the supreme court. how much can he actually do and as quickly as he said? >> well, remember at one point paul ryan met with donald trump and came out basically saying, or his aides basically said what donald trump said, just help me get elected and then we'll run -- we'll use your agenda. okay? we will use your agenda.
i think paul ryan is going to hold him to that. and i think that -- i just heard from a republican who said that there could be a populist conservative governing coalition if they can all get on the same page. and i think the fact again as we were saying before, that donald trump had coattails, that he brought in some of these republicans into congress. who were very worried about their jobs. that they now owe him something. >> right. >> and they will -- the question is what do they do to the obama legacy? what do they do with obamacare? what do they do about the premium increases which donald trump has spoken about. what do they do about trade? do they withdraw from the tpp right away? what do they do about the wall? these are things republicans have disagreed on. >> van. >> i think there's a couple of ways to think about it. you're kind of looking for now what happens now, how do you think about this. i think if you're a progressive there are three areas where you
might try to figure out something positive. first of all, the fact that now trump is going to own health care. he's going to own health care for at least 20 million people. and the republicans can't just sort of stand back and let the abad parts of obamacare go on unchecked just because they want to stick it on obama. the republicans are going to have to really step up and do something. that could wind up being a positive. we just don't know. secondly, he made a bunch of promises about urban investment and urban renewal and empowerment, et cetera. i think he should be held to those kinds of promises and let's see if he's actually serious about those things. and lastly, this whole question around trade. i think for the left wing of the democratic party there's probably something there that can make some kind of sense. i think there are three things that are just airredeemably bad that we are going to have to resist this president on as progressives. one is all the stuff around immigration and the muslim bashing. if that becomes a serious part of his presidency, there will be
a big, big pushback from decent people in this country who do not want to see that type of rhetoric and agenda coming from washington, d.c. secondly, the supreme court is going to be a massive fight. and lastly, which we haven't talked about, is this whole question of climate and whether or not we're going to be able to make real progress on climate and climate change. the last thing i want to say because i don't know if i'll get a chance to talk again, there are people around the world who are watching this. they are appalled. they are shocked. they are surprised. the markets are showing it. and there are some people who are laughing. and some of them are in the kremlin. this is not just the first election in which you had a woman running and a businessperson running. this is the first election in which an enemy power deliberately and explicitly interfered in our election and got away with it. and they interfered in our election in a one-sided way. they didn't hack democrats -- they didn't hack republicans. they hacked democrats. and we're going to have to figure out now what is our
relationship to russia going forward. and if russia got away with it this time, if the chinese do it to the republicans next time, we are now living in a completely different context from a national security point of view. that needs to be talked about. >> jeffrey, assuming donald trump because the president, do you think -- he's already talked about there's been some talk about who would be his attorney general, who would be his secretary of state. do you see him reaching out to kind of a diverse group of republicans or whomever to kind of form a cabinet? where do you see -- >> yes. i mean, again, the model for me, which was instantly clear to me as i got to know him, is his own company. i mean, he has a lot of people there, a lot of very different people who are very talented in a, b, or c areas that he brings in to accomplish tasks. that's what he will do. he's an executive. he has an executive's mind. i have no doubt whatsoever.
now, will he, as any president should, having won an election, want to steer the country in the direction that he promised he would steer it? sure. will he try to find people who will do that in these individual cabinet departments? the age-old problem in washington is presidents appoint people to run departments and then they wind up doing it the reverse. they wind up representing the department to the president instead of representing the president and the people to the department. but yes, i'm sure he will do this. >> paul? >> that may well be. but i would point out first off the election's not over. there are states in play. and it seems to me, just back in the envelope math, highly likely that hillary clinton wins the popular vote irrespective of even if mr. trump can pull off the rust belt states. only 24% of the vote in california is in. she's likely to win that overwhelmingly. washington, oregon. so you could very well be in a situation what we are, we know no matter who wins that this country is deeply, deeply
divided. and that has been the case for many years. when bill clinton was sworn in, it was on the book of the prophet isaiah. and thou shall be called healer of the breach. then the next president had two terms. he said i want to be a uniter not a divider. then the next president had two terms and he said there are no red states, no blue states, there are only the united states. and yet still despite 24 years of three very different presidents, all talking about that divide and trying to address it, it is deeper and more painful than ever. this on trade, this about russia, but more fundamentally, the pain here is so spectacular that it's going to take a real -- >> we've got another projection from wolf. >> we do have another major projection right now. all right. donald trump, we project, will be the winner in the state of utah. with its six electoral votes. donald trump carries another state. you see the popular vote there. donald trump ahead. he's got 113,000-vote lead over both evan mcmullin, who looks like he's in second place right
now with 41% of the vote, and hillary clinton right now 82,000 votes, in third place. let's take a look at the electoral college count where it stands right now with this donald trump win in utah. right now donald trump is ahead, inching closer and closer to 270 electoral votes. he now has 244 electoral votes compared to hillary clinton's 215 electoral votes. donald trump doing very, very well tonight. it's 270, though. that's the magic number. let's take a look in a key race alert at the numbers coming in right now. remaining states. we'll start with michigan right now. 80% of the vote is now in. trump has an impressive lead of 77,000-plus votes over hillary clinton. there are 16 electoral votes in michigan. trump ahead. in wisconsin, 87% of the vote is in. similarly has an impressive 84,000-vote lead over hillary clinton. 10 electoral votes at stake in
wisconsin. in arizona trump again leading. 60,000-vote lead over hillary clinton with 65% of the vote in. arizona has 11 electoral votes. in pennsylvania look at this. 97% of the vote is in. trump is ahead by almost 51,000 votes over hillary clinton. there are 20 electoral votes at stake in pennsylvania. trump doing very well in pennsylvania right now. let's take a look at some more states where we have not made projections. in new hampshire hillary clinton is ahead but by only 700 votes over donald trump with 85% of the vote in. four electoral votes in new hampshire. in maine, 81% of the vote is in. hillary clinton has a lead of almost 17,000 votes over donald trump in the state of maine. finally, take a look at this -- in minnesota 84% of the vote is in. hillary clinton has a pretty good 71,000-vote lead over donald trump. 84% of the vote in. minnesota has 10 electoral votes. let's go over to jake and dana.
the numbers clearly right now, jake, are in donald trump's favor. >> absolutely. hillary clinton needs to win michigan. she needs to win new hampshire. she needs to win pennsylvania. right now she's only ahead in one of those states with almost all of the vote in. it's really stunning. and van has been talking about some of the dimensions of this race, some of the social dimensions that have people who supported hillary clinton very upset this evening. but let's take a moment and talk about the outsider nature of the campaign that donald trump waged, and looks like he might win having to do with how dissatisfied the american people are with washington, d.c., with institution that's they think are failing them. institutions, whether it is the justice department and the government of washington, d.c., whether they're political or career individuals, and how they are not serving the purposes of the american people. that's one. and a second one i think is very significant, and we haven't really talked about it at all, and that is the role of the
united states in the world. you could make the argument that donald trump is somebody who has talked about how he thinks that we have been involved in too many entanglements in other countries and hillary clinton has been defending that sort of thing. it's one of the reasons why a lot of veterans anecdotally supported donald trump in addition to the fact that many of them are just conservative republicans. and that is they agree with the idea that we shouldn't be involved in too many countries overseas, we should be focused more on the united states. there are a lot of policy dimensions to this. van's touching on some of the social dimensions to this. but there are a lot of policy dimensions to this. and then of course there's trade. and the idea that the trade deals that might be very, very lucrative to corporations and to wall street have not been as lucrative and successful for people in ohio, for people in michigan, for people in pennsylvania. the states that today are really rising up and saying not so fast, washington, d.c. >> and dana, i know you're in touch with folks in the trump
campaign. what are you hearing? >> well, a little bit of news, that i'm told that donald trump and his campaign did prepare two speeches, as we were told earlier by our clinton team, that hillary clinton did. a victory speech and a concession speech. and he is preparing and hoping to give that victory speech. so what will be in it? i'm told that he will be gracious, that he will -- to speak to what van was talking about before and also michael and others about the tone of these speeches being so important, will talk about coming together, will reach out to those who didn't vote for him. so that is the tone that i'm told he will set in this speech. and we'll see what specific words he uses and how specific he gets, whether he says specifically hillary clinton's voters, please understand i know you didn't support me but come my way. but the overall tone is going to be that. and the other is gratitude. >> that's what the victor -- >> victory speech. >> but that's what the victors usually say. they reach out. they try to be gracious. they encourage --
>> that's right. >> -- the losing presidential candidate to be gracious as well. >> it's true. this is anything but a usual campaign and campaign season, right down to the speeches. so it is i think noteworthy to hear, particularly given how incredibly divisive this has been, that if he does get that magic 270 tonight, if those rust belt states go his way, not to mention pennsylvania, that that is the theme and the tone and the tenor i'm told he will set. >> and what's impressive, very impressive, not only is he ahead in the electoral college map but popular vote he is ahead in the popular vote. i think about 54 million americans have voted for him. maybe a million more than voted for hillary clinton nationwide. that is so impressive right now. >> it's big. but as you note, it's right now. we still have yet to see what happens in california and some of the western states. but just to touch on what dana said in terms of the speech, whoever wins this evening, there is a huge responsibility for
that man or that woman to reach out not only to the people who voted for his or her opponent but to the people who don't like him or her. if donald trump wins, i think there is going to be in addition to his celebration and the victory lap that he has every right to take, there are people who are really bothered by things like when he made fun of that disabled reporter. and he really has an obligation, especially if he wants to be a successful president, and i know he wants to be a successful anything that he tries to do, he wants to succeed at, there is an opportunity now for the country to heal, for the country to come together. whether hill clinton wins or donald trump wins. and i really hope that the victor does take that opportunity to try to unite the country after this extremely brutal election. >> the onus is also on the prern w person who doesn't win to do that. >> absolutely. >> we remember in 2008 john mccain's concession speech is probably one of the best speeches he ever gave in his
life because it was so gracious and telling the people who supported him to please support the next president and because, again, this has been so divisive, so tough, so intense, it is maybe even more important for the person giving the concession speech to give that message to their supporters. >> we'll see what time the victory speech happens and the concession speech happens. we're going to be watching all of that so, so closely. it's still not over yet. they're still counting votes. anderson, back to you. >> yeah, wolf, thanks very much. in terms of what happens in the coming weeks for whoever the president-elect is, in terms of a transition team, i mean, some of them have -- i assume both sides, certainly the clinton side, has already -- you know, they have people in place. donald trump has named as well. what is the process for that? >> chris christie is running the transition -- >> that's a problem. >> -- for donald trump. that's a problem. he also hasn't been particularly
visible of late with donald trump because of the whole bridgegate trial, et cetera. but they have been running a full-bore transition. i think in terms of hillary clinton, when you were dealing with an obama administration who had been here, democrats, the transition might have been a little smoother and a lot easier than if it is president trump then the obama team would have dealing with a president trump's team who wants to actually undo everything that president obama has done in office. >> it is interesting also when you have president obama with the highest approval ratings i guess of his presidency -- well, probably not of his presidency but certainly for a president at this stage. >> up there with reagan. >> and certainly was out there on the campaign trail an awful lot. i mean, to not be able to -- he was able to get himself elected but not -- he didn't have great coattails certainly for hillary clinton. >> obviously. i'm sure he's deeply disappointed tonight. i haven't spoken to him. but he campaigned very, very
vigorously. he felt very strongly about it. but you know, my guess is that they will meet on thursday because that is the obligation of the outgoing president, to try and effect a transition to the next administration. we've done it for several -- for a couple of centuries. and i'm sure he'll feel a responsibility to do it. let me just make a couple of points, though. one of the things i'm going to be watching, you talk about people were swept in on his coattails and so on. some of them were incumbents who were re-elected. there are many members -- or there are more than a few members of congress who didn't endorse him of his own party. paul ryan separated himself from donald trump and excoriated him in very, very sharp terms several times. they don't have the same agendas in many ways. the notion of -- i'll be
interested, i don't think -- i can't think of a time when you had a president who was so at odds with so much of his own base because ultimately he ran against the washington establishment and mitch mcconnell and paul ryan and some of those guys, they're part of the washington establishment. >> but now they're going to have to deal with him and they're going to have to figure out what part of the trump agenda works with what they want to do. as donald trump always says, he's a negotiator. even if he has to negotiate -- >> michael. >> i'll just add to the list of we're in uncharted territory. we seem to be assuming we're going to hear an acceptance speech from donald trump. perhaps, if this goes the way it's -- you know what all the caveats are. here's what i'm trying to say. you can put on that list trying to calm down the market because the dow futures are down 800. i don't know what it is he says tonight or tomorrow, but he needs to, to the point of who will he surround himself with, make sure that he can instill some confidence in wall street sooner than later. >> yeah. and it will also be interesting
to see what obama says. right? they have this meeting on thursday or so. obama has been very vocal that he didn't think that donald trump was qualified to be president, he didn't have the temperament. donald trump if he becomes president is a complete and utter repudiation of obama. he ran as the anti-obama. and if you look at all the things the transition team has been saying, their goal is to, you know, undo obama's legacy -- >> it is paradoxical because as anderson pointed out the president's approval rating -- >> yeah. >> -- is quite high. but let me just say this. part of what the president and others criticized donald trump for was suggesting that he might not accept the result of the election. i don't think you can do that and then not accept the result of the election. and i think there will be people, and van can speak to it, who are going to be in a resistant mood about this because they'll say donald trump
didn't give barack obama a chance, so why should we give donald trump a chance? and the answer to that is we only have one president at a time and you have to try and make it work. >> we're going to have more with our panel, a lot more. still looking, counting the votes, looking at the numbers state by state. we'll be right back. [ sighs ] [ rumbling ]
we have a key race alert. let's update you on all the outstanding votes right now. let's start in the key -- let's call it the battleground state of michigan right now. 81% of the vote is in. trump maintains a pretty good lead. 72,000 votes over hillary clinton. there are 16 electoral votes at stage in michigan. wisconsin, he's got an 87,000-vote lead over hillary clinton right now with 88% of
the vote in. that's another 10 electoral votes right there. let's see what happens in wisconsin. in arizona he also has a pretty good lead of 64,000 votes over hillary clinton with 65% of the vote in in arizona. 11 electoral votes at stage there. in pennsylvania donald trump maintains his lead. almost 59,000-vote lead over hillary clinton with 97% of the vote in. trump still ahead in pennsylvania. 20 electoral votes right there. impressive leads in all of those states. let's move on to new hampshire right now. 87% of the vote in. hillary clinton has expanded her lead. she is now up by 3,500 votes over donald trump. once again, four electoral votes in the state of new hampshire. hillary clinton does have the lead also in the state of maine. she's up by 17,000 votes over donald trump. 84% of the vote is in. four electoral votes in maine. in minnesota hillary clinton has the lead there. 66,000-vote lead over donald trump. 85% of the vote is in in the state of minnesota where there's
10 electoral votes. and in alaska the donald trump is building up a lead with 28% of the vote in. 13,500 vote lead over hillary clinton. three electoral votes at stake in alaska. let's take a look at the electoral college map right now. where it stands. donald trump is ahead. he has 244 electoral votes to hillary clinton's 215 electoral votes. you need 270 to be elected president of the united states. trump is betting closer and closer and closer in this improbable run, very impressive run for donald trump. john, let's take a look and see where we stand in these remaining states. >> we're not done yet in these remaining states but at the moment six states that president obama carried four years ago have flipped. we're not done completely. but including florida. and at the moment we're looking at pennsylvania, ohio which is done, michigan, wisconsin, iowa. stunning. as you look at it. so let's go back and look and see the ones we're still waiting on. 88% now of the vote. 49 to 46 here.
this has been steady. and we did this by hand a short time ago. now it has fed in. 99% in the vote now in milwaukee. this is where the democrats were telling us earlier just wait, we're going to get a lot of votes out of milwaukee. they did get more votes but nowhere near enough to close the statewide gap. you're still at 49 to 46. and you see the margin there. so let's look around with the blue areas. are there places we can get more democratic votes? we're 100% here. 100% is in. we're 100% here. you come up here, dane county, it's a big county, almost 9% of the state population. university of wisconsin madison. we can expect the votes still out here are going to go lopsided for secretary clinton. the question is are there that many out there? because it's the only place left where you have a big -- large population center relatively, democratic area with the vote still out. and i'm very skeptical that there are anywhere near enough votes there to make that up. you look at some other blue areas. 91% here again. we're not talking about a lot of votes here. it's a smaller area of the state.
you pull out. let's come over here to eau claire. we're at 87% here. but again, 1.7% of the state population. this is what's happening in the clinton war room. they are desperately going county by county and calling their people and saying is there anything missing? what's missing? every now and then a number comes in and you see a drop, they realize they've missed something. but if you look at this right now we're going to count them to the end, but this has been -- it's a relatively small lead but it has been a steady -- call it a stubborn lead in the sense as more votes come in it's holding up in the state of wisconsin. it's 10 and a very important 10. you move over to michigan, which is 16. and again, we've been stuck here for a while. 81%. you see the lead right here. 48 to 47. >> about 70,000 votes. >> if you round that up, it just moved a little bit on you again there. so what are we waiting for? number one, we're still waiting, and this will be the bulk of what we're missing, is right here in wayne county. it's a place hillary clinton is winning quite big. but the milwaukee example, the
clinton campaign tells us just wait, maybe it will be different here but it was not in wisconsin. we waited milwaukee came in, it gave them a boost but nowhere near what they needed. they need a miracle out of waib county to make up some big numbers. translate when you get back out here. you look to the state earlier in the night this was red. marquette was red most of the night. hillary clinton came back but we're at 100% now and so there's no votes to be made up there. you're looking in the middle part of the state, wolf, you're trying to find areas. genesee county. this is flint. 4.3% of the state population. there's more for her. she's winning by a sizable margin. but again you see 62-46. when the rest of that vote comes in it's not -- you're not going to get -- you're not going to make up 30,000 or 50,000 votes there. you might make up some but it doesn't look big enough. that is the issue now, as you go through states, oakland county's at 99%. you pop down, we're still waiting most of all on this wayne county vote. again, mathematically impossible? no. you're starting to look here and here and the word improbable unlikely comes into your head.
we'll count them. we've seen strange shifts before. pennsylvania was coming in blue most of the night. it switched late. it is still a one-point race. it's still very close. inside the trump campaign, they think they have this -- they've been checking with their people. they think it's done. you ask the democrats where the votes are going to come from. there is a little here. a little left there. we'll wait. we'll keep counting. we want to be cautious about this. but again, it's a small lead -- >> 60,000-vote lead. >> in a giant state like pennsylvania that's not a huge lead but again, it has been steady and stubborn and persistent. >> pittsburgh still open? >> allegheny last time i checked was mostly in. 98%. this is an area where 10% of the state population. she held the lead there. but the numbers, one of the issues even in places where she's performing by percentage the turnout, you see issues with turnout. that was why the democrats were saying wait on milwaukee. her percentages were about what a democrat needs to do there but
the numbers weren't. it's not just your percentage. you've got to turn people out. and that's a problem. especially when you have in places like this, we talked about this earlier, 350% for hillary clinton to 47% for donald trump. you're not going to win. you're not going to win in a state that has so much conservative territory. these are small less populated areas. but the democrats, the fewer counties in pennsylvania that are blue the democrats know the challenge, not only win but win big and run it up and do well in the suburbs and she's underperforming across. one that has come back, you look to the northeast, new hampshire has come back. let's go back up here to 2016. but look at that. we're talking about 4,000 votes there, a little less than that. a little less than that as you look at this right now. we're going to watch this come in. i mentioned earlier that the trump people were very confident when these votes came in we'd get more of them. still waiting on derry. pretty good lead for donald trump there. we're going to keep counting.
in new hampshire up to 87%. this one is incredibly close. seesaw. you add it all up and you pull it out here from an electoral college perspective at least two out of three of these need to change for hillary clinton to have a hope. probably all three of them. we've still got some business to do out in the western part of the country. some of these states aren't completely called yet. but the two big ones, pennsylvania and michigan, if they don't change the math doesn't work. >> he's got 244 electoral votes by our projection. doesn't need all that many more in order to get to 270. >> that would get you 64, 74, 80. 280 right there. >> anderson, back to you. >> what we have seen tonight is certainly a revolution in american politics and i'm wondering, trump supporters corey lewandowski and jeffrey lord, we used to talk a will the about the autopsy of the republican party done in 2012. there's certainly going to be one done among a lot of democrats and probably even among some republicans. what does this mean, jake tapper made the point earlier about the polls were all wrong. what does this mean for the whole polling industry? what does this mean for how elections are run in the future or is donald trump such a unique
candidate because of the force of his personality -- >> i'd say -- corey probably knows infinitely more about this than i do. but you know, politics is about people. it's about human beings. and one of the things i think we have a problem with in the political world is that everybody is so obsessed with data and there are human faces behind these things and they don't listen. they don't pay attention. i mean, i've told you before about my being at home in pennsylvania and beginning to pick up the donald trump thing even before donald trump announced for president because of the way people were talking about issues that had nothing to do with donald trump at that point. that's what this is about. altogether. and when you abandon that and you're just going to sit in a room full of data, you're going to lose that. >> corey, when you signed on to be campaign manager, i mean, did you honestly in your heart believe this night as it appears to be going right now, was going
to turn out the way it did? did you honestly believe -- >> i don't think in january of 2015 when i signed on to become donald trump's campaign manager, to lay the foundation, anybody thought at that time donald trump was going to be elected president of the united states tonight. that's what is going to happen. it is unequivocal. the numbers are there. he's going to be president of the united states. now, how did that come to be? what we saw, you know, against all of the pundits who said this would never happen, he would never run, file his taxes and all the other things you're aware of, what we saw was the american people didn't care about those things. what they wanted and what they want is someone who tells them the truth that isn't stuck in a washington mentality. and what he did and what we did many, many times and was criticized infinitely by the mainstream media was he would have a rally but this doesn't translate to sxroets democrats understand precisely what mary had for breakfast. she had breakfast and at 3:00 in the afternoon they knocked on her door. that's not how the american people function.
that's not what they want. what we do know is connecting with people directly and having them buy into what you're doing, i think that's the big difference. how many people bought into -- >> how much did donald -- in your opinion did donald trump -- i've always thought donald trump has an extraordinary antenna, pleth it's a political antenna or whatever it is, for sensing things in other people, in his company or the crowds he's talking to, he feeds off it. how much did donald trump when he came down that escalator, do you think had in his mind what the mood of the electorate was? how much do you think he sensed once he started going out, meeting crowds of people, talking to people, that he learned from them? >> i think and the "washington post" has reported this, bob costas has said, it he's the greatest raw political talent of a lifetime. the greatest. because he understands people fundamentally. and what you have in donald trump and what the blue collar sees in donald trump is donald trump is worth billions of dollars, has created an amazing
company, employed tens of thousands of people, but you know what he does? he stops at mcdonald's and eats there. and you know what he does? he walks to the construction site and he talks to everybody with respect and dignity and doesn't think anybody is better than anybody else. i've seen it firsthand on so many occasions. when you go with him to a construction site, and i witnessed it here in washington where he's building the old post office, he would stop and talk to every person there working and ask them is this the right way, and he would notice small things. taking pride in everything that he does at his properties. giving pride back to the people who are doing the work. making sure that they understand that he appreciates it. the american people see that. and it was real and it is real, and that's what the american people respect. >> i know van and paul -- >> well, three things. first of all, let's just try to be clinical about it. when there is a revolution in media, when there's a new media form, a new master usually comes along and shocks everybody. radio with fdr. people totally wrote fdr off and then he understood radio better than everybody else and he broke
through. jfk. totally written off. but he understood television better than anybody else and he broke through. obama totally written off but he understood the nrnths thinterne you could raise money, small donation dollars, viral videos, and he was able to break through. donald trump understands social media and reality television better than anybody else. and that's the era that we're in. and so things that you do in social media like being outrageous, insulting people doesn't get you fewer followers on social media. it gets you more. the idea of being the villain. the villain actually is the star in a reality tv show. and he kind of understood -- played up the villain kind of thing. i was saying all along, as you guys will remember, that this guy was a major threat. i used to call him trumpzilla. and every democrat told me i was wrong. when brexit came out i did a
video called "freak the f out." part of it is understanding the media environment. the other is understanding, quoting "lord of the rings," where will the hammer fall in and i said the hammer will fall on the rust belt. and people said no way, it's going to be blue forever. there is a problem with the democratic establishment not understanding the media environment that we're in, not understanding where the pain is in the country, and taking a lot of stuff for granted. so you guys were able to take advantage of that. that said, it's not as rosy as you say. >> paul, i want to get you in and we have to go to break. >> we have to understand the political environment as well. donald trump did. he gave voice to this spectacular anger. but at the same time, 69 out of 99 state legislative chambers are controlled by the republicans. the highest since 1920. 34 of 51 governors. third highest since the second world war. 54 senators. highest since 1928. 274 house members. the highest since 1928.
there's a huge constituency for republicans. this is a republican country. president obama, he cut through that. but to try to win a third term has never been done by the democratic party in my lifetime. >> we've got to take a quick break. we'll have more. we'll continue to count the votes, continue to look at the states. we'll be right back.
we have another projection right now. cnn now projects that donald trump will win the state of alaska. alaska has three electoral votes. donald trump will carry alaska. another win for donald trump. let's look at electoral college map. with this win, the three electoral votes, donald trump has moved closer and closer to this magic number of 270 needed to win the white house. he now has 247 votes. hillary clinton has 215 votes. he is getting closer and closer to that number of 270. let's do a key race alert right now. all right. let's start off with the states that are still outstanding. we'll start off in michigan where 84% of the vote is now in. trump has a nearly 80,000-vote lead in the state of michigan which right there has 16 electoral votes. michigan, we're waiting for more
votes. wisconsin, 89% of the vote is in. trump also has a pretty impressive lead. 86,000 vote-lead over hillary clinton. another 10 electoral votes right there. arizona, 66% of the vote is in. trump has a 62,000-vote lead over hillary clinton. 11 electoral votes at stake in arizona. he is ahead. in pennsylvania he is ahead as well. 97% of the vote is in. that's a healthy number. he is ahead by almost 77,000 votes over hillary clinton. pennsylvania alone has 20 electoral votes. trump is ahead at this late stage right there. let's take a look at the remaining outstanding states. new hampshire 87% of the vote is in. hillary clinton has the lead. about 3,700-vote lead over donald trump with four electoral votes at stage in new hampshire. in maine, another four electoral votes at stake there. hillary clinton is up there as well. she has an 18,000-vote lead over donald trump. 86% of the vote is in. and in minnesota hillary clinton is amead by almost 57,000 votes
over donald trump. 87% of the vote is in in the state of minnesota right there. so you see donald trump is doing -- well, once again let's take a look at the electoral map. you can see 270 needed to win. 247 -- 247 for trump, 215 for hillary clinton. you see those yellow states. one, two, three, four, five, six, seven states remaining outstanding. jake, donald trump in the biggest of those states right now is ahead. >> and can i just say we've been talking for months about what the effect of donald trump and comments he made would be on the latino vote and on the vote of white college-educated women. and the truth of the matter is that according to exit polls the effect was not as strong as anybody would have predicted. anybody did predict except for maybe mr. trump. donald trump only lost white
college-educated women by six points according to exit poll data i saw. that's not the huge gender gap chasm that we thought we were going to see. but perhaps even more surprisingly, i'm looking at exit poll data comparing the percentage of the latino vote that romney got versus the percentage of the latino vote that trump got in four states. in florida trump got a smaller percentage than romney got. but in nevada, in new mexico, and in north carolina donald trump did better with latino voters than mitt romney did. i mean, tell me who had that on their bingo card. >> nobody. but that speaks to sort of taking it up to 10,000 feet here, going back to june 16th, 2015 when donald trump announced -- i see corey over there. he was there. he remembers. every step of the way. he announced, nobody thought he really meant it. he wasn't going to give his financial records, he did. i remember vividly the -- a top
aide to one of the early front-runners in the republican primary contenders saying why are you guys talking about donald trump, there's no way he will ever be the republican nominee. and then fast-forward to all of these ups and downs that he had, and he was completely resilient for the reasons that you were just talking about. because it all comes down to an economic message that he, no matter what else he veered off in, and he veered off in a lot of directions that his campaign did not appreciate, but he had the fundamental appeal to people who felt and feel left behind. and that was something that was impenetrable for these voters, and that is why he was teflon trump. along the way we can chronicle -- we could sit here for 20 minutes and chronicle all of the zigs and zags of the trump campaign, but he kept coming back because it was that fundamental. >> and when you look at this is traditionally a night when we'll
talk about what the winner did right and not necessarily what the person who doesn't win, the loser, does wrong. but when you look at the campaign of bill clinton, talking to working-class voters in 1992, versus the campaign of hillary clinton talking to voters in 2016, i don't think you got the "it's the economy, stupid" message from hillary clinton that bill clinton and james carville and paul begala and others drove home. it was a very different message. and apparently, enough people in union households, in white working-class households in michigan and wisconsin and pennsylvania and ohio and iowa, thought she's not talking to me, she's not telling me what she's going to do to make my life better, and donald trump is. which seems obvious now. but at the time i think probably a lot of democrats were frustrated by that.
>> all of us remember a lot of those trump supporters and there are millions of them, i think about 55 million already have voted for him tonight. so many of them were angry at hillary clinton when she used that word "deplorables" in describing donald trump supporters. and they said we're americans, we love this country, we are not deplorable. >> no question. it didn't turn out to be the mitt romney 47% moment that kind of sort of played on a loop. but there's no question that the deplorable concept was something that the trump supporters embraced. how many times did we go to a trump rally and people were wearing t-shirts saying i'm a proud deplorable, adorable deplorable. i mean, they embraced it because they thought it was so ridiculous because they thought that their voices and they think that their voices should be heard too and that trump supporters were misunderstood and some of them were and some of them weren't, but that's a story for down the road. but the bottom line, at the end
of the day, is that he's surprised constantly throughout the entire republican primary season and he clearly seems to have continued to do that through the general. >> and you know what else, jake, he showed during the republican primary contest when he beat 16 or 17 republican senators and governors and so many of them had a lot more money in paid commercial advertising than he did, he had relatively little during the primaries, but he was on television clearly all of the time, and in the general election hillary clinton, her campaign spent so much more money on negative ads against him, yet look at how well he has done today. >> at the end of the day it's not necessarily the richest candidate, as jeb bush showed us earlier. it's not necessarily the candidate that is flashier necessarily. it's the candidate that has a message that appeals to the plurality or majority of voters. and he apparently -- we haven't called this race yet.
but he apparently had that. he apparently -- that message of jobs, border, terrorism, washington's broken, saying it over and over and over again, that was appealing. people think washington is broken. they think they have lost their faith in american institutions, including republican leaders and democratic leaders in congress, including law enforcement, including counterterrorism officials, including the mainstream media. they have lost their faith. and he was giving voice to that. >> and dana, he stuck by his basic message from day one. he said we're going to build a wall, mexico's going to pay for it. he still says that. in the past few days he continues to say that. he's going to repeal and replace obamacare, the affordable care act. he still says that. he's been saying that since day one. he's stuck to those messages. and it seems to have worked. >> it's true. and as you're saying that, i'm thinking of kellyanne conway, his campaign manager, her mantra. she said it to me.
she said it to both you have as well in interviews. which is her sort of diplomatic way of saying that she didn't think that donald trump did well when he hurt himself by getting distracted by other issues but he did the best when he was talking about the issues. on that note, let me tell you what she did in her tweet well instructed from kellyanne conway. things that were true, under cover trump vote. hillary's floor and ceiling were the same. rally crowds matter. >> we're watching the final electoral votes come in. we'll take a quick break and be right back.
let's update you with a key race alert. the remaining states, there are votes outstanding in michigan, 16 electoral votes. 85 85% of the vote is in. donald trump is ahead over hillary clinton. michigan, donald trump is ahead. wisconsin he's ahead even more impressively. an 85,000 vote lead over hillary clinton. 90% of the vote is in. wisconsin, 10 electoral votes at stake in this state. in pennsylvania donald trump is ahead with 97% of the vote in. he's ahead by almost 75,000
votes over hillary clinton. 20 electoral votes at stake in pennsylvania. in arizona he's ahead as well. 11 electoral votes in arizona. he's ahead by more than 67,000 votes in the state of arizona over hillary clinton. donald trump doing well in all of those states. we're watching them very, very closely. very more states we're watching in new hampshire right now. hillary clinton is expanding her lead. she has a lead of almost 3500 votes over trump with 87% of the votes in in new hampshire. he's on top in maine. another four electoral votes. she's up by almost 20,000 votes. 88 % of the votes in in maine. in minnesota she's up by 44,000 votes. 88% of the vote is in. let's take a look at the electoral college map right now. it's all important.
donald trump has 247 electoral college votes. hillary clinton has 215. you need 270. he's inching closer and closer. we are joined from clinton head quarters in manhattan. a crowd behind you. what are you hearing over there? >> reporter: wolf, there is a crowd behind me. you can see there's a little bit more activity right now. and they have turned off the election coverage for the last several hours. this crowd here has been watching our coverage and others really somber mood here. i am told john podesta is on his way here. he's on his way here and is going to be giving some type of an announcement, a message. i'm told secretary clinton is not going to be coming here, at least not now at this moment. the clinton campaign is still
watching this hand full of states that remain out there, but i can tell you, optimism among all democrats here, supporters here, has essentially faded. top advisors across the board, drop donors and strategists all are recognizing that hillary clinton is not likely to be the next president. so john podesta is coming here to make some kind of a statement. we don't know what it will be, but we'll bring it to you. >> it's approaching 2:00 a.m. here on the east coast. jeff zeleny, thank you. let's go to john king. you taking a closer look at these hand full of states that will determine who the next president is. >> and we currently have donald trump at 247. pennsylvania would be 20. you're looking at the math rear and trying to find with 97% of the vote in is there some way for secretary to make it up? you want to give everybody a benefit of the doubt. you move out here, 98% of the
vote is counted. you're looking for places where is it possible there could be a miracle comeback? is there a pile of votes yet to count? this is more populated here, the suburbs of philadelphia, but look how close it is. even if you make up a little bit of what's left, a lot of times you get to 99% and not 100% until the next day. you're looking at that, and i can't find them. i've been looking for hours trying to find more votes to find the math. if you go through the trump votes, most of them at 100%. maybe a couple, one or two at 98% earlier when i was going through, but they're coming in at 100%. you assume most of the trump vote is counted, but so is most of the clinton vote. looking at pennsylvania. >> 75,000 votes is a lot of votes to overcome. >> especially when the votes are out are democratic areas but as i said, when i was in the
suburbs here earlier, 99%, there's not that many votes here. over here she's not winning by as much. if they keep with the trend of the night. when you get to 99%, it's hard to see something come in late that will defy what's been coming in. looking at pennsylvania, if you're in the clinton war room, they're calling their people around the state, and they're not there to be found. that doesn't mean -- >> doesn't look good for her there. let's look at michigan. >> michigan, the same boat except more votes out. 14% of the vote yet to be counted, but a healthy lead there. modestly, but healthy. earlier i said if this was going to happen, the most likely source of it was here, detroit. we're up to 96% in wayne county. a very big healthy lead for hillary clinton when it comes to percentages, but no more votes. oakland county, no more votes.
tennessee county, the last time just above 40%. now they're up to 84%. those are votes for secretary clinton, but even if she gets another five or eight thousand more out of there, doesn't match up. it's getting hard to find the votes. let's go over to wisconsin. we're in the same boat here. 90% now. >> 85,000 vote lead that trump has. >> it's a healthier lead there. milwaukee is up to 99%. this would have been your biggest chance to get votes. we went from 87 to 99. she didn't make up enough. the clinton campaign has been saying watch dane county. 16 % of the vote is out here. it's conceivable when you get that, 16% of the precinct. you could get a giant stack of votes. if you're looking at the map, you're thinking there it is, but you're placing a giant bet on one county. when you go through the rest of this, most of it is in. 91% here, but look at the p percentage of the population.
if you're in the clinton war room, you're hoping against math. with donald trump at 247, hillary clinton has to block him. she's leading in new hampshire right now, but if donald trump gets two of the three, it's over. >> let's go to jim acosta at trump head quarters. what are you seeing over there? what are you hearing? >> reporter: i just walked to a senior trump advisor a few moments ago who said if donald trump is declared the winner, and they believe that is going to happen very, very soon, that he will deliver a speech that calls on the country to come together. he will, obviously, talk about this as being a very big upset win. he's going to praise the movement that brought him to the white house. that is, of course, if everything goes the way it seems to be going right now. but, wolf, as for this issue of bringing the country together, you can hear the chants behind me. the