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excuse me. everybody quite. >>[chatter]. >> i'm wolf blitzer. >> oh. fantastic. [ applause ] see you came on a good day. dasher and dancers and blitzer. >> and to all of your viewers, have a happy, happy thanksgiving. erin burnett "outfront" starts right now. "outfront" next the breaking news. donald trump about to arrive in florida for thanksgiving at mar-a-lago, this after meeting with his arch enemy the "new york times" and talking racism. and jared kushner in a rare interview, how he secretly ran trump's campaign. he says people felt safe with him in charge. you will hear how he broke the rules. and home to celebrity likes michael jackson, bruce willis and donald trump. we'll take you inside the residential trump tower. let's go "outfront."
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good evening. i'm erin burnett. "outfront" the breaking news. stocks hitting ab all-time high. the dow topping 19,000 for the first time in history. it's risen over 750 points, that is more than 6 percenta4 percen points since trump won the white house. something he's very proud of. and as he's about to land in palm beach. heading to mar-a-lago for the holiday. also this afternoon he met with journalists in "new york times'" offices. trump taking his motor cade across down. you see him at the meeting. 75 minutes conversation, termed cordial. one reporter tweeted trump offered an olive branch to the paper. "i would like to turn it around. i think it would make the job i'm doing much easier they said he said." . this is his second meeting with journalists this week. jim acosta is "outfront" at
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trump tower tonight and jim, trump finally answering some substantive questions and doing so on the record. >> absolutely erin. he's been turning the temperature up. he's been turning it down. that's been the story of this transition. donald trump did leave new york without holding a press conference. but as you said he did sit down with the "new york times" offering answers that reveal he might be ready to put behind him some of that rhetoric from the campaign. today donald trump met face-to-face with one of his favorite target, the "new york times." and the newspaper's reporters were live tweeting the highlights. to all of his supporters calling for hillary clinton to be jailed over her e-mails in the clinton foundation. trump hinted he's leaning against pushing for any sort of prosecution. saying it would be divisive for the country. and a reversal for trump. >> i am going to struck out my
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attorney general to get a special prosecutor to look into your situation. because there has never been so many lies, so many you have deception. >> reporter: chief strategist steve bannon has been accused of showcasing racist news. trump said it is very hard on bannon. i think he's having a hard time with it because it is not him. and even moderated his stance on global warming which he called a hoax, saying i think there is some connectivity between humans and climate change. the president elect has no shortage of flames to put out. with a new reflation that the trump foundation admitted it was involved in self dealing and admitting charitable donations to the mountain conflicts posed by his wiz affairs overseas. trump told the times in theory i could run my business perfectly and then run the country perfectly. there's never been a case like there. >> we're facing anotherism.
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just like naziism. >> and michael flynn, tapped to be trump's national security advisor. after the retired general's comments on zlamism last august. >> this is islamism and as the vicious cancer, inside the body of 1.7 billion people on this planet. and it has to be excised. >> trump has mostly tried to bypass the media since his election revealing his upcoming agenda in this video. >> my agenda have been based on a simple core principle. putting america first. >> a top support's message to the press, get used to it. >> donald trump is going to, you know, make his own way with the press and probably going to do a lot of those videos i would imagine where it is straight to the american people. go around the press. >> reporter: a source familiar with transition discussion says mitt romney is seriously considering joining the trump administration as secretary of state. but this source says romney is right now likely discussing that
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possibility with family members as we speak. the family members are often very close advisors to him, erin. but the source also cautions this decision is not expected until after the holiday weekend, erin. >> thank you very much. and the breaking news. donald trump has just landed in palm beach, florida. you can see his plane taxiing there just after 7:00 eastern. getting off there and heading a couple of miles away to mar-a-lago, which is where jason carroll is "outfront" awaiting him. we've been expecting announcements on cabinet and staff picks. you just heard jim acosta saying secretary of state was on the list. but so far nothing. >> reporter: so far nothing erin. but there is some thought that it is coming. it is coming. there is a question in terms of when it will be coming. there was some thought that perhaps we would hear something about an appointment for secretary of treasury or commerce or even secretary of defense. but i think about what former massachusetts senator scott brown said on monday.
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as, you know, he was there interviewing with trump possibly about taking the position of secretary of veteran affairs. and when pressed after he came out. everyone was asking, when might we hear? he also said perhaps sometime after thanksgiving. so in terms of timing that looks to be where we are right now on a lot of these announcements. when you think about what's happening here. this is a new administration. what they are trying to do is find their way through the whole process. they want to make sure they are making the right decision with the right person. some decisions are going to take longer than others. one thing we can tell you that is going to happen while here in florida, trump is going to release a thanksgiving video, a message to the people about the holiday of thanksgiving. unclear what specifically will be in that message. but we can tell you that message expected to be released tomorrow. erin? >> thank you very much jason carroll. and as we watch that plain await donald trump getting off here, tonight, see if he has anything to say.
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ben ferguson "outfront" now, host of the ben fersen radio show. keith boykin. our political david chalian and alex barns. and best selling novelist. david. let's me start with you as trump is a arriving here in mar-a-lago, that is crucial moment for him. he has a lot of decisions to make. one of them obviously going to be secretary of state. you heard jim acosta say mitt romney is seriously considering taking that o job. which is pretty stunning because these two people have said incredibly horrible things about each other and they disagree on some crucial policy issues. but we are hearing mitt romney a real possibility tonight. >> this would be such a bold stroke for donald trump. and you are right. it would be a surprising sort of acceptance of this offer for mitt romney as well. and clearly takes the counsel of his family more than any outside advisor. so gathering with the family
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over thanksgiving, i'm sure this will be conversation. which is why i think we won't have a final answer if the trump romney diplomatic marriage is to take place. we'll learn after the holiday. you are right to note their differences, specifically on russia is a key policy difference the two have. but on other issues like iran they are very much aligned. >> what do you think the odds here are? both taking a few days. donald trump saying he never takes vacation. i'm sure he'll play some golf. but mitt romney going to be spending the holiday talking to his sons -- >> this has been praised very interestingly. trump as far as we know has not extended this, right? >> right. there is a delicate dance on extending and accepting. >> -- has it but, you know, is trump actually going to give to it romney? would romney take it? i'm not sure we're there yet. and i said this last night and i think it would be great for the country if romney could see his way to be secretary of state.
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you know, we've said you can't have it both ways. you want this guy to be presidential. this is exactly the kind of person you would hope he'd appoint. >> let me bring you in here ben. it appears and we don't know these are things jason points out. a couple of announcements may similar have been made. they have not been. secretary jim mattis for secretary of defense. trump has said extremely positive things about him and yet that's not been announced either. trump has promised to bring back water board asking that came up today with the "new york times." maggie haberman actually said, trump says he is seriously considering mattis for dod. and asked him about water boarding was surprised he didn't favor it. . does trump need a secretary that agrees with him on something like this which trump has made a very big stand on? >> i think obviously donald trump is looking at these people overall as the qualification and not just as a one-issue decision
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on appointing them. look at all of the things that mitt romney said in 40 minutes about donald trump being a con artist and terrible person. ultimately he's willing to say "i'm willing to overlook that and our disagreements if i think you are qualified and if i think you are the best person for the job and i will probably listen to you in that capacity". so donald trump has said he's looking at bringing back water boarding but if he has someone he thinks overall is qualified he may be willing to make a deal on an issue like that. let's be honest. secretary of defense and all the other positions around that when it comes to national security are much bigger than one issue and i think donald trump is seeing it that way and that is why he's taking these meetings with people. i will say one other thing real quick i think it is really important point to make here. donald trump, people are worried he's going to have an enemy's list when he went in the white house if you were against him he will come after you. that's not been done at all here which i think is very surprising with a lot of people.
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>> at least he's meat meth with people. >> seems to be having a good meetings with them. >> he has a different list. >> one trump has officially named, retired general flynn. he has national security advisor. come under fire for his comments on islam. we played some the other day where he talked about islam being a cancer and not being a religion, being something political. in the speech that we played from, some new lines have come out that are pretty stunning. this is just a couple of months ago in august. let me play it. >> we are facing another ism. this is islamism. and it is a vicious cancer inside the body of 1.7 billion people on this planet. and it has to be excised.
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>> so that isn't drawing a distinction between radical islam and islam as the peaceful religion. >> that is disturbing. i think it is troubling we have this guy who who is notably islam phobic who will be potentially be there for national security and the idea that he has to work with mitt romney if mitt romney is secretary of state -- >> goes against everything -- >> exactly. and i just don't think that donald trump, even if he is hands up i don't think he's going to be able to separate himself from the chaos that will erupt this his administration. all of these different people with different viewpoints. >> i don't think there is anything here that is going to blow up within his campaign. as you are implying. what you have here is something they think donald trump truly does believe. and many people that voted for
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him believe it. and it is not islam-o-phobia. you do have a cancer in the 1.7 billion. >> he didn't say. this he said all. >> he didn't say -- >> he said within. he said within -- >> preposterous. just own it and -- >> most -- >> -- think every outrageous thing that happens. why don't you just at some point acknowledge something is wrong and make a distinction. >> this is where i disagree. this is not trairjsz outrageous. the reality is there are many americans who believe there is a cancer within the muslim 1.7 million and some of them are extremists. and some of them are creating extremists and allowing and funding these terrorist groups that claim to be a part of islam. that is not islam phobia. that is reality. >> -- that is fine but that is not what he said. >> he said within the body of 1.7 people. >> he said within. >> the question is how big an
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issue is this going to be? >> we know that flynn has strong views about radical islam. to me that -- what he just said there pushes -- probably pushes over the line. okay? i had a problem with president obama and not being willing to say. >> not using the words radical islamic terrorism. >> yes. but you don't want to say that 1.7 billion people are our enemy. that doesn't not help. >> that is not what he's saying. >> -- go back to the water boarding for one second. i hope trump if he appoints mattis will listen to him on this. because trump's experience on this is probably watching "24." mattis is a general and the other thing he knows if you water board, if you violate the geneva conventions you have set your own soldiers up for terrible experiences if they are captured by the enemy and he's very aware of that. >> stay with me. because next trump directly confronted by roertds today.
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also about white supremacists and the neonazis who support him. what did he say? >> and trump's son-in-law, jared kushner, his exclusive interview. how he turned trump's make america great again hat sales to $80,000 a day. and if you are not trump, what is it like to live in that trump tower? >> -- all kind of forces from s.w.a.t. teams, police. >> and we'll take you inside. the long brown path before me leading wherever i choose. the east and the west are mine. the north and the south are mine. all seems beautiful to me.
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>> reporter: president elect donald trump for the first time publicly disavowing alt-right groups, telling the "new york times" it is not a group i want to energize. alternative right refers to a group of people with often extreme conservative views. so much so their movement goes beyond what's widely considered socially and politically acceptable. ryan lentz tracks hate groups f. >> alt-right is hate rebranded for digital age. >> >> reporter: never did we see their views more clearly than when this video surfaces over the weekend. the pro white anti-semitics in full conference where members raised their arms in full salutes. this not far from the white house. >> for us as europeans it is only normal again when we are great again. >> speaking to the crowd, richard spencer from a group that calls itself the national
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policy institute. they hold these conferences every year. he's considered the leader of the so called white movement. but many similar groups exist in the u.s. nearly 900 according to lentz. >> the idea that these groups are in middle america or rural america is wrong. >> reporter: primarily white men from all socioeconomic backgrounds. and a large online presence. >> over the course of this campaign they felt compelled and obligated to come out into brood daylight and speak their minds. >> like it or not mr. trump you have become the spokesmen for white people. >> reporter: and in the hiring of the steve bannon, who is now trump's chief strategist recently told the wall street journal that the alt-right has some racial and anti-semitic ov overtones but said he had no
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tolerance for those views trump today defending him saying if i thought he was a racist or alt-right i wouldn't even think about hiring him. and today president elect trump condemned these groups. but today a reputed -- spoke out against richard spencer in my story. in an open letter johnson told spencer his remarks have sirm just gone too far. especially the promoting of the nazi imagery. >> thank you very much. and my panel is back with me in. you were there in the interview with the "new york times" for this whole 75 minute long conversation. >> and an interesting conversation it was. >> and very interesting. and i will point out on the record, the one i was at yesterday was not off the record. i can't talk about it. but you can. thank goodness. one of the the tweets came out and said if trump feels he did things to energize the alt-right movement. i don't think so dean, trump
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replies take us inside the room. what was this like when trump was being asked about racism and the alt-right. >> it was tense without being outrageously so i guess. trump came in and the beginning of the meeting was him sort of critiquing our coverage for being unfair in his view. and then rehashing some of his greatist hits from the campaign trail.est hits from the campaig trail. reliving the glory of his rally and so on. and he was a little tense. but he also clearly -- his strategy and the subject came up later again in the conversation. but the strategy was basically to disavow and move on to. basically treat it as obvious that he would disavow these people which in fairness he has done in the past after the david duke controversy and so on. while sort of keeping it arm's length any suggestion that he or his campaign or steve bannon or anyone else might have sort of stoked this kind of ferveer in any what or manipulated. >> and that is a big part of the
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question here. i remember one time there was a robo call. i asked him it. he said he disawe void. and yet here what he said is he didn't do anything to energize the movement. chairman of the american nazi party begs to differ. here is what he said. >> now, if trump does win, okay. it is going to be a real opportunity for people like white nationalists. >> clearly they are energized. trump can disawe vow them but they are energized by him. >> i think they see ab opportunity where the media will be happy to talk to any one of these people that they say is somehow connect order might be connected in some crazy way to donald trump. there are always chrysts that come out.
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i've been around in talk radio since i was 12 years old. i've never heard of these people and i've been in the conservative moveme conservative movement since i was twelve. but they saw an opportunity here that if they could say anything that referenced "make america great" or donald trump. that the media would cover them and somehow they would a momentum of relevance again and maybe some nut jobs off the internet would show up in a group in a basement at their parents house nobody knew existed until yesterday. they knew how to play everyone very well and get free media when no one knew who they were before a couple of years because people become obsessed with the alt-right which i didn't even know existed in this form. >> can ben successfully dismiss it this way or are these people, american nazi part and others energized by donald trump? >> of course they are energized by donald trump. and he doesn't have to say explicitly come and support me.
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but the dog whistle, the winks and the nods. the guy started his political career by attacking the legitimacy of the first black president of the united states. he started his presidential campaign by attacking mexican immigrants and then proceeded to attack muslims and called for a ban on all muslims coming into the united states. why on earth would people who were racist and xenophobic rally around a guy who says those things? mainly because he's contributing the rhetoric that's encouraging that and he has to be more than just responding to people. he has to be affirmatively leading the effort against them. he was willing to go out and talk about hamilton or "saturday night live" without any imp cakes that he has to do it. but he has to be prodded to talk about white nationalists. >> on that point the neo-nazi leader who you just heard with the hail trumps said something about trump's victory this weekend very specifically. here he is. >> america was until this past
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generation a white country, designed for ourselves and our posterity. it is our creation. it is our inheritance. and it belongs to us. >> david, does trump feel that he needs to do anything differently than he has been doing? which is answering the questions from the press. which he doesn't look doing. he avows. the questions keep coming back. people keep saying things like that. >> he said that and he was hailing donald trump and touting the trump victory. i -- i -- i don't say that trump went in there to sort of organize this conference in any way. but i do think there is a difference. donald trump chooses his arguments and his fights. keith just referenced "hamilton." he went vociferously after the cast for what he perceived to be rude, demanding an apology.
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when he just says i disawe vow that gives him the distance.vowt gives him the distance. but it doesn't give him the leadership moment he could have in addressing why is, why does donald trump think it is that these white nationalists find opportunity in his -- >> -- find opportunity pause you take the bait. here is the thing. you can't go out there every day and disavow. donald trump has disvows consistently. the reason is because they knew they would get on tv -- >> ben, i'm talking about the larger moment. don't you think donald trump could seize an opportunity to speak to the widest possible audience of americans possible about what he thinks of these
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group, not just disavowing. >> he disavows them. you don't give people credibility that are crazy. you disavow and move on. he's done it every step of the way. you don't give them credibility by having a press conference. disvouing is the most you can do?avowing is the most you can do? >> where do you think he is on this? >> i think he'll keep addressing it to the extent. i sort of agree with both sides. i think trump and bannon and others in the campaign have sort of seen it to their advantage to sort of play to this group in certain ways, giving them encouragement. doing things like starting off the campaign with the birth certificate stuff was clearly i think a dog whistle too these groups. at the same time the media attention of these groups often elevates above their actual station in american politician. the 200 people who crowded into a ballroom are not a mass movement in american politics.
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>> interesting. >> there is a sense in which it's both true. what the media should be doing is covering things like when trump does things like the birth certificate stuff without covering spencer himself. and it's a tough balance the strike but the right one i think. >> -- appointing someone like steve bannon to be his chief strategist. i does send a message he's not doing enough to create a sense of unity. somebody like mitt romney may send a better signal but those people are questionable for a lot of americans -- >> >>[chatter]. -- >> racism in controversies 35 years ago. that is world -- and he's very conservative. and liberals have ever reason to oppose him. but he's just not in the same political ballpark as -- >> -- probably saying it was the voice of the alt-right very recently. so there are questions there too. thank you all. next jared kushner. exclusive interview how he rewrote the rules for the campaign. how he ran the donald trump campaign. he hasn't talked about it yet.
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new tonight. one of donald trump's most trusted advisors breaking his silence. jared kushner. donald trump's 35-year-old son-in-law, married to ivanka. maintained a low profile during trump's campaign. that is an understatement. it was a no-profile, is how i would describe it. and now speaking out for the first time after he helped trump win. no understatement either. he had a chance exclusively to speak with kushner. and you were talking about, you cover technology, and you know so much about technology and that was a crucial part how jared kushner helped his father-in-law win. technology. they had a sit down and donald trump says hey, can -- jared what you say has been on twitter since 2009 and never tweeted. >> very private. >> and donald trump says okay, run my facebook. and from there it took off.
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>> and filet of fishes on the private jet and saying take this over. and jared is in real estate but he invests in a lot of tech companies so he knows people like peter thiel. his brother josh is a very formidable venture capitalist. made the phone calls and treated trump like an e-commerce company. consumer tech. all you do is want to get attention and eyeballs and voters. that is what he did. >> so he had $8,000 a day they were getting on hats and he managed to get to it $80,000. >> trump is a very unique. we never had a candidate like him. they used targeting. found a way to get people on facebook and twitter. going from $8,000 a day selling hats and stickers to 80,000 a day. and gave them money and turned all these people into walking trump billboards. that was just one thing. then evolved into this hundred person secret data center and had data do everything. determined his schedule, his rallies and even what he spoke about in the rallies.
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>> even what he spoke about the rallies. to us it seems oh here he goes. this was driven by a team of a hundred people in a secret warehouse. >> and tweet the speeches and u.s. tv. instead of skaing i want to buy a hundred points in philadelphia. we know that people who watch ncis care about obamacare. let's run a commercial for that and found a way to microtarget television. >> amazing. you keep hearing there wasn't a lot of planning here but you are saying jared was at the center of it there was a lot. and in fact the interview you said when you talk to jared you said he was -- people knew they could trust him. what was he like in person when you speak to him. as i say he keeps a no-profile. what was he like in person 124. >> really polite. and excessively polite and guarded. doesn't mean he's quiet. he's very personable and the controlled. orthodox jewish and supporting some who have a alt-right voters.
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and the comes from a significant democrat family and running a the republican campaign. and put the ax in chris christie. never lost his cool and the put a thoughtful answers to each question in the story. >> you said his judaism is very important. in his office right there on display. >> the first thing you see. book, symbols. he's -- he keeps shabis and everything. it is pat of his life and very apparent. and opposed to donald trump it is all the ego of trump. jared's walls are sparse and you can see he's a man of faith. >> wow. all right. well thank you very much. pretty stunning and by the way an amazing article. i hope everyone will read it. detailed long. so many anecdotes in it. i want to talk more you with jeffrey lord and jonathan to see democrat strategists. you just heard what steven was saying about jared. excessively polite. incredibly polite.
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very low key. his religion very apparent when you walk into his office. he had donald trump's ear. he is there with him at meetings. i've seen that. he is family. you have met him. you have corresponded with him. do you agree with steven's takeaway of his persona? >> i do. the thing that strikes me about him is he has utter common sense that he's very, very grounded. he thinks things through. and i should say here. he's not my best friend in life or anything like that. i met him in the course of the campaign once. and as i say, we have corresponded on occasion. but i find him to be very, very -- in addition to being very smart, very cool and calm. which is exactly the kind of person -- i mean, i would hope seriously that his goes into to t white house. presidents going back to john adams have had family members as confidants in the white house or
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in government and he's exactly the kind of person president trump would want at his size. >> sources say he could likely end one top national security clearance. yet he's married to ivanka trump. and obviously they are husband and wife. they talk about things. -- she was also present at the meeting between trump and prime minister of japan. this is pretty incredible. is this okay? you have her with this now intimate relationship even though she's supposed to run the business, intimate relationship with all of these calls and her married to jared kushner who clearly is her father's right hand man if not more. >> first of all erin to you and to jeff, happy thanksgiving if i don't get to talk you do again. >> ditto my friend. >> okay. my friend. you too. before i now say terrible things about your candidate. look, i think all of this normalization of the trumps and
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of kushner and these profiles we have to go to the top, to the head. and when donald trump came into washington and said he was going to drain the swamp, there is a major problem with that. is that donald trump is the swamp. and if you look at both his entanglements in business and the way he's conducted himself to date. two examples i'll give. trump university a scandal and fraud. he paid a $25 million fine just a few days ago and thousands of people who he stiffed and he essentially did not pay them. he essentially was a con man. we then ask how is he going to behave in the oval office. and it is hard to believe and not credible to think that all of a sudden this man who's been a fraud and con man is all of a sudden going to come into the oval office and not try to take advantage, making deals with heads of state as we're worried about, using his family ties, his children. this is the thing that we should be concerned about. frankly the republican party should be concerned about. >> erin --
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>> does jared make this concern about the family involvement and whether it's appropriate better or worse? >> me or jeff? >> to jeff. i think it is better. first of all the things that john has just talked about have been litigated by the american people. that's over. it's decided. donald trump is going to be the president of the united states. >> i'm not disputing that. >> i had my own column today at the american speculator about the persons of the jared kushner. and as i say i went through all of american history. not every president but a lot of presidents had family members, sons, other family member, wives etc. whom they appointed their private secretary. and andrew jackson's nephew. namesake. andrew jackson donaldson served as his white house private secretary for years and was incredibly influential. all throughout history. >> jeff quickly before we go i want to ask one ore thing -- >> if i could respond to that erin.
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>> i just want the to get that in quickly because i had a conversation with ross about it. to the "new york times" he said jared kushner could help make peace between the israelis and palestinians. jeff was not kidding when he said that. it might have been a bit of hyperbole but he's not kidding. is donald trump expecting way too much? now it is peace in the middle east on jared's back? >> well no. i think what he's doing is assessing his son-in-law's abilities. and i think that jared, at least it's my impression. i've never had this conversation with him. but it is my impression that he's been extensively involved in middle eastern matters in terms of being pro ezeli and th -- pro israeli and that sort of thing. the american people elected a peanut farmer in georgia from 1976 who solved the egyptian-israeli relationship. >> he wasn't a con man. >> against all odds. >> and next trump's mar-a-lago,
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blaeking news. moments ago president elect trump arriving at mar-a-lago in palm beach, that is where his family will be celebrating thanksgiving. no shortage of security restrictions on the ground in the air and in the water. >> reporter: protecting president elect trump is a challenge unlike any other. from new york to his private club in florida. >> we're approaching mar-a-lago. >> reporter: a 20 acre waterfront estate in palm beach. excluded from the public but he also shares it with as many as 500 members. who are willing to pay a hundred thousand dollars to join. >> basically it is a compound. >> reporter: special agent
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rodriguez says in many ways it is ready made for presidential security. >> behind natural barrier. there is a fence i assume. >> yeah. >> a wall. a tall wall. >> more than 13 feet i believe, which is great for -- for deterring anyone trying to come on the premises. >> reporter: behind the wall trump keeps a residence that could become the winter white house. >> i love florida. this is my second home. >> where presidents spend their vacations is a window into their personalities. george w. bush liked to spend the hottest month of the year on his ranch in crawford, texas. >> a wonderful spot to come in here and just kind of think about the budget. >> reporter: george bush senior famously enjoined the peaceful certainty of maine. mar-a-lago cut down the middle by a two lane road on an island.
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the best view comes from across the bay. rodriguez says secret service teams are assessing threat it is a could come by land, sea and air. and standing outside the club it doesn't take long to see the skies above will be a major concern. >> that plane's what? maybe a couple thousand feet over us? >> reporter: the palm beach international airport is just a few miles west of mar-a-lago. >> you can see the -- the path of commercial aircraft. >> reporter: for years trump has waived a legal battle to keep commercial airplanes and private planes from flying over this estate. and now that he's president elect he might have just gotten his way. when he's on his property t air space over mar-a-lago will be closed. >> this would be a type of aircraft that an individual would use to drive his plane into -- on the property. >> and in the waters around mar-a-lago, the u.s. coast guard
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is already setting up security zones. at so some parts completely off limb limits. others that require permission before entering. >> and rodriguez says secret service agent wills also conduct renewed background checks on every club member. and inside the club they can expect to see new levels of the visible and invisible layers of security. >> but life is going to change around here for the next four years. >> yes it will. most definitely. and the president elect just touched down moments ago there of course at mar-a-lago. have you noticed any drastic changes in security where you are right now compared to say 24 hours ago as you were working on your reporting? >> reporter: totally different scene here. moments ago the motorcade drove past our live shot here. and closer to the lights you see behind me. coast guard boats out in the water. and every entrance in mar-a-lago
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president elect donald trump weighing in on the deadly school bus crash that left at least five elementary school students dead. tweetic minutes ago. bush crash in tennessee so terrible. these beautiful children will be remembered. the driver just 24 years old, now facing five counts of vehicular homicide, reckless endangerment and reckless driving we also learned he hit another car while driving a bus in september. one student lucky enough to survive the crash explaining what happened in horrific terms. >> he wasn't paying attention. he was -- and he had a garbage bag and he had a [indiscernible] >> martin savidge is there. what do police know at this
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hour? this is horrible? and we're now learning this man had been in an accident before while driving a bus? >> reporter: he told me he had his commercial driver's license since april. he had only been driving a short time. and according to authorities had another accident in september. ran his bus into a car. all of this could have been --. the real indicator is our speed. this is where authorities are saying that looks like a real culprit. looks like he was doing well above the 30 miles per hour posted speed limit. the children still here, six are in intensive care and critical condition. last night they had to deal with dozens of children. many of them so young and so much in shock they were unable to really speak. couldn't say a phone number, give a parents name or even give an address. when the parents flocked to the emergency room they all had pictures of their children in the cell phone and they began showing them and they were then
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able to reunite them with the children in the back. until they came across one family that had a photo and the hospital didn't have that child. it became quickly evident why. and then there was a teach who are stepped forward with a photograph of that staple child taken that day. and listen to the rest of the story told by the medical staff. >> i saw, you know, the student earlier in the day. and this is what was going on. it was a very happy situation. they were celebrating thanksgiving. so it is very touching to see that. and i think it was helpful for the family to know what the last moments of, you know, might have been. >> this was a child that did not survive. >> right. >> reporter: just so you clearly understand, his teacher had taken a photograph with her student. that child did not survive. the last photo they had was to share with the parent of the child of happy times earlier. it would have to last the roast
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rest of their lives. >> just so so horrible. kindergartener, first grader among those. needlessly and horribly lost their lives. we'll be right back. how about front row seats to the best show in town. and that is why you invest. the best returns aren't just measured in dollars.
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and thank you so much for joining us. ac 360 starts right now. good evening. john berman here in for anderson. breaking news tonight. donald trump is in florida. he arrived about two hours ago for thanksgiving at mar-a-lago but not before making a ton of news back here in new york. he sat down with the editors, the publisher and top media and political writers at the "new york times." he said a mouthful about everything from putting hillary clinton in prison, no longer a priority. to conflicts of interest that there are no conflicts of interest when you are president, to peace in the middle east. the president elect says his son-in-law might be able to make it happen and he was apparently serious. we begin though with breaking news. more evidence that the seemingly unlikely prospect of mitt romney becoming secretary of state could be growing more likely.


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