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i have been taking a series of executive actions that don't require congressional approval. well, here's another one. we can't wait to pardon these turkeys. love this bird. the most powerful position in the world brings with it many awesome and solemn responsibilities. this is not one of them. i know some will call this amnesty. but don't worry, there's plenty of turkey to go around. there has been a fierce competition between a bunch of turkeys trying to win their way into the white house. some of you caught that. >> i have to admit i love when presidents pardon the turkeys. president obama will be doing it for the last time later this morning. the next hour of "cnn newsroom"
starts now. good morning. i'm carol costello. thank you for joining me. the trump transition team hard at work this morning even as the boss spends his holiday in florida. this morning, mr. trump's team announcing the president-elect has chosen south carolina governor nikki haley to serve as u.s. ambassador to the united nations. haley, you might recall, remained critical of mr. trump even after he clinched their party's nomination. south carolina senator lindsey graham praising the decision, calling haley a strong leader who will be an outstanding ambassador. cnn's sara murray is here with more. good morning. >> good morning. well, the trump team is making it official. they are naming nikki haley as donald trump's pick to be u.s. ambassador to the united nations. i think this tells us a couple things. it wasn't just a head fake when donald trump was meeting with people who have been critical of him in the past, that he's actually naming one of those to a top slot. but i think it also tells us he's taken some of this
criticism, the note that there are mostly older white men making out the top ranks of his white house staff and his cabinet positions to heart, so we are seeing nikki haley add a dash of diversity to that. she's ai woman, also the daughter of indian immigrants. now, of course, that's not where the palace intrigue ends when it comes to a potential donald trump cabinet. one of the big announcements we are still waiting on is who he will select to be his secretary of state. one of the top contenders for this job has been mitt romney who was a critic of donald trump throughout the campaign, but some of donald trump's closest allies are not thrilled with this. take a listen to what they said. >> i can think of 20 other people who would be more naturally compatible with the trump vision of foreign policy. >> right. >> he attacked him on a personal level about his character, integrity, his honor. when do you that, there's only one way i think mitt romney could even be considered for a post like that, and that is that he goes to a microphone in a very public place and repudiates
everything he said in that famous salt lake city speech and everything he said after that. >> now, both newt gingrich and mike huckabee have been donald trump supporters since early on. they have proved their loyalty to the candidate. another person who has done that to the president-elect is rudy giuliani. he is still in contention to be a potential secretary of state which makes this a tough decision. and the last name we have to throw in the mix today, dr. ben carson. it appeared for awhile that maybe he was pulling his name out of the running for a top slot. donald trump is now saying that's not the case. he took to twitter today or took to twitter to say i'm seriously considering dr. ben carson as the head of hud, housing and h urban development. i have gotten to know him well. he's a greatly talented person who loves people. i'm told dr. carson is seriously considering the job and will spend his thanksgiving holiday thinking it over. >> many thanks, sara. so this news comes amid some confusion over mr. trump's policy positions. politico counted 15 flip-flops
since election day. a few examples. >> don't you know i have these guys, torture doesn't work. believe me, it works, okay? waterboarding is your minor form. some people say it's not actually torture. let's assume it is. but they ask me the question what do you think of waterboarding. absolutely fine. but we should go much stronger than waterboarding. that's the way i feel. >> all right. but trump told the "new york times" yesterday that quote, general mattis told him i never found it, waterboarding, to be useful. give me a pack of cigarettes and a couple of beers and i will do better. trump said he was very impressed by that answer and then trump added, torture is not going to make the kind of difference that a lot of people are thinking. general mattis, by the way, is under consideration for secretary of defense. then there's trump's campaign promise on hillary clinton. >> hillary clinton will be under investigation for a long, long time for her many crimes against our nation, our people, our
democracy, likely concluding in a criminal trial. >> okay. but trump is changing his tune on that, too, telling the "new york times" quote, i don't want to hurt the clintons. i really don't. it's just not something that i feel very strongly about. and then there's climate change. back in march, trump told "the washington post" quote, i'm not a great believer in man-made climate change but yesterday, he told the "times" quote, i think there is some connectivity, something. let's talk about that and more. ross douthat from the "new york times," errol louis for new york one news and julian selazer from new york university. welcome to all of you. ross, you were present when donald trump was interviewed by the "new york times." what went through your mind as trump ticked off these differing
apparently softening policy positions? >> a couple of things. one is that trump is a salesman, right, and if you put him in a room with a collection of journalists whose views tend to differ from his own, i was probably the most conservative attendee at the "times" meeting. my colleagues won't complain about that characterization. if you put him in a room like that, you will get a different trump than you get on the campaign trail, at a rally where he's trying to rally conservative votes against hillary clinton. and you know, my sense throughout this campaign has been that there are few issues that trump is really invested in, particularly his economic philosophy, the idea that we need to be building more buildings and cutting better trade deals and so on, but then on most other issues, he can move around depending on the situation, the audience and so on. so i wouldn't read too much into what he said to us yesterday any more than you would necessarily read too much into what he said on the campaign trail.
the fact that he's going to have -- >> wait a minute. wait a minute. so the voters shouldn't read too much into what he says at any given time? >> yes. >> that's right. that's exactly right. this is something that almost with a smile and a wink, the candidate himself, candidate trump, really sort of made clear that he's looking for maneuvering room. he's a good negotiator. he likes to make deals. he doesn't want to talk about this or talk about that. he will change his stance. this is a habit he carried over from his commercial life. the fact is, he can get away with it. there are a number of voters who told pollsters and reporters that they know he's not going to necessarily build a wall. they don't care if it's a fence or a wall or even nothing at all, but they know he's tough and they know they like what he has said. so there are a lot of different reasons people supported donald trump. but a point by point menu of the different policies that he promised is not necessarily one
of those reasons. >> so julian, that's not necessarily a bad thing. that means he can sit down and negotiate and work with people, right? but the thing is for his most ardent supporters, a tenet of his campaign was to build that wall but now it involves fencing. so will they listen to what errol said and say of course that's true and i'm fine with that? >> well, obviously they will be disappointed with these statements. before we go too far in saying donald trump the negotiator has emerged, i think we should be cautious. he did this several times in the campaign but he did come back to certain themes like the wall and tough immigration control, and he has surrounded himself still with appointees, at least the first few picks, who are pretty conservative and he's dealing with a republican party in congress that is very much to the right and won't be easy on him if he backs away from some of these issues. so the "new york times" was just
one moment in a broader picture where i still think he's in the same environment of policies that he was when he started the campaign. >> but ross, mr. trump is reaching out to picks for his staff that a lot of republicans who weren't totally on board with him might like, like nikki haley as u.s. ambassador to the united nations. >> right. we haven't yet seen the most important staffing decisions that president trump will make which are basically secretary of state, secretary of defense and the treasury department. so far he's made picks up until haley that were mostly campaign loyalists, people like jeff sessions. so a lot will turn on what we see in the next few days or a week in terms of the personnel and policy question. more broadly, julian is absolutely right, trump is not remaking himself in some radical way. he has a conservative republican party to deal with. he has a sort of broad vision of
trumpism that's different somewhat from conventional conservatism that he has to try and implement or a lot of his voters will be disappointed. i just think it's useful to keep in mind this is a man who i think, when you listen to him talk about hillary clinton, at our interview, he talked about how she suffered enough, you had the sense as he did in the past, he actually likes the clintons, perhaps more than he liked some of his republican opponents, and he's a reality tv performer. i think that he thinks of a lot of what went on on the campaign trail, a lot of the viciousness, especially the viciousness that came from him himself, as a kind of performance that can be sort of stepped into and stepped out of. >> along those lines, mitt romney, right, because you heard what mike huckabee said, if donald trump appoints mitt romney as secretary of state, romney should get in front of a microphone and apologize for every awful thing he said about donald trump. but does donald trump expect that or want it? >> interesting question. donald trump, i have to say i was a little surprised to see
how quickly and fully he welcomed mitt romney. i think if you want to put it in conventional political terms, this is his olive branch or his way of showing he's at peace with the never trump faction of which mitt romney was maybe the most prominent member and gave a devastating attack on camera against donald trump. what we are hearing of course is that donald trump thinks he looks like the guy who can play the role of, he's casting in a sense, play the role of diplomat and maybe somebody to offset a lot of the belligerent talk that will be coming most likely out of the pentagon and indeed, out of the white house. you will need somebody to go talk to people in cairo and beirut and riyadh and all across the middle east and sort of back away from some of the really hot ugly talk that has come from elsewhere. you know, it's a team effort. it's not just one by one. certainly i think governor huckabee's comments really point to something i have also heard which is that there are a lot of
people who feel loyalty is supposed to count for something and the rudy giulianis of the world who went out when the campaign was at its lowest and defended that videotape from the bus and everything else, are supposed to be rewarded, not necessarily somebody like mitt romney. >> that's true. maybe that's what that's all about, right? from not only mike huckabee but -- i'm sorry, mike huckabee but -- >> chris christie? one of the secrets of trump, too, he likes humiliating people who have already debased themselves to him. >> sorry. >> go ahead. >> i think president-elect trump likes people who are loyal but it's unclear that he is loyal to them. during this campaign we saw many shake-ups where people would come in at the top and they would go, and i don't think the idea that he's someone who keeps his team close and will remain with them, like hillary clinton is famous for being, is true of
him. so i don't think giuliani, for example, should have high expectations of how he will be used. if he's not beneficial to donald trump, donald trump will not have him in the cabinet. i think that is the kind of president we have. >> have to leave it there. trying to think of newt gingrich and mike huckabee. who knows what they really think. thanks to all of you. appreciate you coming in this week. coming up in the "newsroom" tennessee's governor visiting chattanooga after the deadly school bus crash, as investigators try to figure out what went so tragically wrong. people say, let's just get a sandwich or something. "or something"? you don't just graduate from medical school, "or something." and we don't just pull smoked chicken, bake fresh foccacia and hand-slice avocado.
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tennessee governor bill haslam in chattanooga to visit woodmore elementary school after that horrific school bus crash that left five kids dead. the vigil was held last night for the victims and their families. today, federal authorities are looking into the case and trying to answer some of the many questions, including questions about the driver's past and the use of seat belts on school
buses. cnn's nick valencia live in chattanooga with more. good morning. >> reporter: good morning, carol. it goes without saying this is going to be a devastatingly sad thanksgiving holiday for a number of families in chattanooga. just factoring in the ages of these victims, kindergarten to fifth grade. the images are hard to talk about, not least to have witnessed for the 37 children who are on the bus. it was earlier this morning within the last hour that tennessee's governor bill haslam visited the elementary school of the victims and talked about this unspeakable tragedy. >> -- not supposed to have el machine t mentary classrooms with empty desks. the sorrow all of us feel is incredibly deep. i want to bring my wishes for you from people from across the state. the whole state has reacted with incredible sympathy for the tragedy you guys are feeling. i do want to say --
>> reporter: johnthony walker remains in custody charged with five counts of vehicular homicide. we know he has had a past driving that school bus. he was involved in a single car accident sideswiping another vehicle. no one was injured in that accident. of course, investigators are going to be looking at his history. he was only credentialed or credited to drive a school bus back in april, then getting into that accident in september. we spoke to his mother, who said he's a good man. he called her right afterwards, right after that accident, to say it was a drastic accident this happened, that he was trying to help those victims on the school bus before paramedics and police arrived. he has a 3-year-old himself. again, the school bus, the district that outsourced the private company that this school bus was operating, that is also going to be part of the investigation to find out exactly if anything could have been done to stop this tragedy. >> nick valencia live from chattanooga this morning, thank you. checking some other top stories at 19 minutes past. cnn obtained documents that show an accused cop killer used his
time on the run to get married. otistyrone mccain got married one day after benjamin marconi was gunned down. he got married monday morning. that afternoon he was arrested. the 50-year-old lawman was shot at close range as he wrote out a traffic ticket outside of police headquarters. a dakota pipeline protester is recovering this morning after nearly losing her arm. it happened during an explosion sunday night as nearly 400 protesters and police clashed. both sides blame each other for the blast. police say protesters used improvised weapons against them. construction of the dakota access pipeline has been suspended pending talks with native american leaders. a global watchdog group says it will look into russian claims that syrian rebels are using chemical weapons in the embattled city of aleppo. both the government and the rebels have accused the other of such attacks. the organization has a prohibition for chemical weapons
and asked russia to provide samples of the alleged chemicals. the group says it is still waiting for the samples. an all-out offensive. iraqi led forces now say they have the isis stronghold of mosul completely surrounded. that means isis forces inside the city are isolated and essentially cut off from supply lines at the west. the fight isn't over yet. cnn's phil black live in erbil 50 miles outside of mosul. >> reporter: yes, isis is essentially trapped in mosul, we believe. they can't get out, they can't get to the syrian border in the isis controlled territory there, nor can they get new fighters or supplies. after some six weeks or so of the battle for mosul, this is really just the end of the first phase. there is still a lot of fighting to do. in other areas around mosul, but more importantly, in the city itself. that's where iraqi forces will now need to go from house to house, street to street, in order to wipe isis out of iraq's
second largest city in this way. we already started to get a taste of this around mosul's eastern flank, where iraqi forces have penetrated the built-up area. we have a sense of just what a tough fight that is. that is where isis is resisting them fiercely, where they prepared, where they motivated and knew this was coming. with a combination of tunnels, suicide car bombs, snipers and really an all-out defense including mortars in this heavily built-up, populated area, isis has been able to withstand the iraqis pretty well so far, although the iraqis are advancing slowly. what all of this means is that there is a lot of fighting to do and that iraq will not be declaring victory in mosul imminently. there's a lot of work to do just yet. >> phil black reporting live for us this morning, thank you. still to come in the "newsroom" he has been president-elect going on three weeks but some democratic electors want that all to end on december 19th. when coughing keeps your family awake.
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be pretty happy. hi, ryan. >> reporter: pretty happy because you are talking about one of the busiest airports in the country. the idea is it's not like the 405. you can see, look at the security line. we are not able to say this very often. the tsa has this moving very quickly. we have seen a lot of smiles throughout here. just to show you how this kind of extends, you are talking about one of the busiest terminals around here, the american airlines, and there's barely anyone in line. we have seen people traveling. we have only seen a few people running to get to their flights. that's good news. everyone is smiling so far. that's the best part about this. we caught up with another traveler. you say you are going to d.c.? i see you have a little one. what has it been like so far in terms of dealing with security and what's next? >> i was surprised at how short the line was. we are hoping to get through quickly to get this little guy off and running. yeah. >>. >> reporter: did you plan to be here early? >> we did. we did. we planned to be here a couple hours early. i think we will be okay.
>> reporter: you always do that with small ones because you want to make sure you don't have to worry about security and the whole nine. >> sure. this is his first time flying but we always tend to get here early anyway. it's o'hare. >> reporter: usually it's more packed than this. >> yes. oh, yeah, definitely. >> reporter: good luck. happy thanksgiving, buddy. wave to carol there. that's the best part about this, everyone is smiling about this. their line is short. we know it will be one of the busiest travel periods in a long time. so far, so good. >> that was one adorable baby. ryan young, thanks so much. happy thanksgiving. >> reporter: happy thanksgiving. good morning. i'm carol costello. thank you for joining me. hillary clinton might have won the popular vote but donald trump did take the electoral college. now some democratic electors are saying not so fast. they are pushing republican presidential electors to vote
against trump when the electoral college meets on december 19th. with me is one of the electors leading the effort, a colorado state elector and dnc national delegate. welcome. >> thank you, carol. >> first of all, explain to people like how this works, because this is like very confusing for people to understand. the electors get together on december 19th. what does that look like? >> well, i have never been an elector before. i believe we go to our courthouses, they swear us in, it's a public ceremony and i encourage everyone in all 50 states to actually do that this year, to go out and to see what we are doing and shed light on this process of the electoral college. >> so normally, the electors would just say put the check near donald trump because he won the electoral college. >> i don't think this year is a normal year. it's been a very divisive
campaign. i'm reaching out to republican electors, to democratic electors and we are searching for a unity hamilton candidate to really unite this country. >> what do you mean by a unity hamilton candidate? what does that mean? >> a candidate who reflects the values of our founding fathers, reflects the values i believe that americans have, and who reflects the values of what i learned in the united states marine corps. honor, courage and commitment are critical and i think our next president needs to have certain set of values and i don't believe donald trump has that. a mayor wrote an excellent piece in the "times" speaking of the demagogue and i believe donald trump matches that. >> so in order to achieve your wish that donald trump not become president of the united states in january, you have to persuade 37 republican electors to reject trump. is that really possible? >> it can be. it's within the rules. it's within the law.
we are reaching out, i'm on cnn here from a standing start trying to reach out to the american public, trying to reach out to republican electors, to democratic electors. if we unite, we can avoid a donald trump presidency. >> but here's the thing. it seems that republicans of all stripes are coalescing around donald trump. it's not the other way around. they are not running from him. it seems they are kind of on board at this moment. >> you know, i think the general election polls, the exit polls showed 58% of republican voters wished they had a different candidate and i do believe, i have some reason to believe there will be some republicans soon. once that first republican elector jumps on board, who knows what happens. that will change the landscape. i believe there will be a wave. we are just waiting for the first person. >> a lot of democratic voters and independent voters weren't so happy with hillary clinton's candidacy either. >> i mean, right now, that's not
what our message is. our message is to unite around a hamilton candidate, to potentially vote for another republican and we believe that that's what is critical at this point in time. we can avoid donald trump because i really, i'm excited to see what republicans do with full control because if their ideas succeed, then america starts to succeed. if their ideas do not, i think we will finally be able to move on and progress to new ideas. >> look, even donald trump says he wishes that candidates won by popular vote. that's just not the way it works in this country right now. and he ran his campaign to win the electoral college. he says hillary clinton did not. so why are you continuing down this pathway? >> you know, i believe it is our role right now to deliberate using the federalist papers as a guide, using the twelfth amendment and i believe we are faithful electors. we are doing our job and making sure the next president is best able to do his job.
what i don't want to see is donald trump be zachariah taylor and the death of the whig party. we are trying to give republicans the best chance to succeed because i believe that's what's important for america. >> well, is it possible, even a tiny possibility, that you could give donald trump a chance? because we don't know what kind of president he will be at this moment. >> we have seen the rhetoric that he's had over the primary season, over the general election, and he also has i believe 26 more days until we vote again, because i hope that on january 20th, i know on january 20th i will be in full support of the next president and the office that they hold, but i don't believe what we have seen so far from mr. trump, that he is that man who is fit for office. i believe there are more palatable republicans that can better unite this country. >> thanks for being with me this morning. >> thank you, carol.
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president obama's dreamer program. it's technically called deferred action for childhood arrivals or daca and it's why 750,000 undocumented immigrants can get driver's licenses, legally work and attend college. now many college presidents want to protect those undocumented students so let's talk about that. with me is president of the university of san francisco, father paul fitzgerald. welcome, father. >> thank you very much for having me. >> thanks for being with me. tell me what your undocumented students on campus are saying to you. >> at the university of san francisco we have about 80 students, undergraduate and graduate students, who have participated in the daca program. they have given the federal government their names, their birth dates, their home addresses in exchange for this promise that they would be allowed to continue to finish their education, get work permits and then upon graduation, enter the work force and contribute to the economy of the united states. >> so what is their fear?
>> they are very afraid that in exchange for that voluntary surrender of information about themselves, that they have now put themselves and especially their families in danger of deportation. >> so there have been mass protests at universities across the country. what do the students protesting want university presidents to do? >> they want us to do what i and over 250 university presidents have already done, which is to pledge publicly that we will use every legal means to protect these, our students, that we will provide them with a quality education, give them every chance to participate in life on campus, provide them with legal advice, best legal advice for their particular situation, help them to seek other immigration status, if it's possible. about 15% of daca students do have other immigration avenues open to them. so we are doing these kind of
things. also we are offering a lot of personal support. >> can you actively keep federal agents off campuses or local police off campuses if they do come for these undocumented students? >> well, i happen to be blessed to live in the city of st. francis and mayor lee in san francisco, for 23 years, has continued this pledge 23 years old that san francisco is a sanctuary city which means the sheriffs department and police department do not actively give information to immigration authorities if they stop someone for a traffic violation who doesn't have documentation. >> but as far as federal agents coming on to your campus, is there any legal way that universities can prevent them from coming on campus? >> 20% of my students, so about 2,000 students, are documented international students. we cooperate very closely with immigration to maintain the visas of our international
students, our documented international students. we have a balance here of obeying the law, supporting all of our students, but offering the most vulnerable of our students every legal protection that we can as well as psychological and emotional support. >> there is a chapel on your university grounds, correct? could undocumented students go into those chapels and be protected in any way? >> my understanding is at least in the obama administration, where there have been many, many legal deportations of undocumented people, that immigration authorities don't like going into people's homes. they certainly don't like the visuals of going into a church or synagogue or mosque and dragging people out. so i would hope that our university as a whole, including st. ignatius church, would be a
refuge but the real refuge has to be the hearts of all of our citizens who make this choice that we be a nation of immigrants and we be hospitable. >> president-elect trump says he wants to deport those undocumented immigrants who have committed crimes, then he said you know, we will think about the other stuff later. will you give him the benefit of the doubt that he will figure out a good solution for these undocumented students? >> that's my ardent hope. i think that's the hope of every decent person in this country, that the new president succeed, that he govern well, that he uphold the values of the nation. there's a practical side to this, too. the united states does not produce enough college graduates to fill the needs of our economy, to deport 700,000 college students would be shooting ourselves in the foot. and to do anything that would
stop the inflow of international students who come here to study, $32 billion a year are brought into the united states by international students coming to study with us. i think it's the moral thing to do but it's also the smart thing to do to let the united states be this great magnet of talent and intelligence and hard workers. >> father paul fitzgerald from the university of san francisco, thank you for joining me this morning. >> thank you, miss costello. coming up in the "newsroom" donald trump's unprecedented political rise from the escalators at trump tower to the steps of the white house. up next, the behind the scenes stories from one cnn reporter who watched it all along the way. attention: are you eligible for medicare?
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toppled political convention all the way to the steps of the white house. cnn's team of reporters were there all along the way to watch his unprecedented rise. the stories are in cnn politics' first ever book written and reported while it happened. i want to bring in cnn politics reporter jeremy diamond for more. you spent a lot of time on the campaign trail. how does it feel being off the campaign trail? >> strange. strange. i will tell you that. it's weird to wake up in the same place every morning and to not think about where you have to move and fly to. >> do you feel you sort of have nothing to do now? >> i wouldn't go that far. there's plenty of work to do. >> that is very true. let's talk about this book. you know, a lot of people give their eye teeth to be on the campaign trail and to follow a candidate all the way through. tell us what that's like. >> well, it's fascinating. i covered donald trump from the very beginning of his presidential campaign. i actually interviewed him once before he started running at
cpac in 2015 to. watch the evolution and questions of whether this would last and seeing it on the ground, the real enthusiasm in the summer into the fall when people were wondering if this was just a temporary thing, the reporters, those of us on the ground then, knew this was something real and that he would go at least into the early primary states. who knew he would actually become president of the united states. >> so did it start off as sort of a happy campaign, where donald trump's supporters kind of like welcomed the media and said hi, then it turned into something much different down the line? say, for example, like this? let's watch. [ bleep ]. >> traitor! >> you experienced a lot of that. was there an evolution? did it get progressively more -- >> it did get nastier but let's remember that from the very beginning of this campaign, in
the first weeks, certainly in the first month, donald trump did begin his antagonistic relationship with the media, mostly stoked by his controversial comments which we would call him out for every day, pretty much. and also, that played out with relationships with reporters individually. i think back to a moment that's in this book which is in october of 2015, i was covering a donald trump rally that had a lot of protesters that day and so i was covering obviously the fact that there were dozen or so protesters and who had interrupted his rally, and no sooner had donald trump left the rally, my story was already up on cnn.com, and i get a call and it's donald trump's campaign manager at the time, corey lewandowski, who starts chewing me out for the story. he goes hold on. then all of a sudden, i hear jeremy, you are very dishonest guy. >> it was donald trump? >> it was donald trump on the phone chewing me out for a story about protesters and about the crowd size at his rally.
i had seen the protesters myself and the number of them and i had also checked with the fire marshal for the crowd count but it didn't matter. that was just an interesting peek into the mind of donald trump. what matters to him, the crowds that matter to him, and the way in which he tried to gain favorable coverage by sometimes bullying the reporters who covered him. >> i think that will continue. thanks so much. i can't wait to read the book. thank you. unpress didn't presprecede stores december 6th. preorder your copy today at cnn.com/book. still to come, cowboys quarterback dak prescott is talking trash but in a totally earth-friendly way.
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influential people. andy schulz has the bleacher report. >> the medal of freedom is the highest civilian honor given to those who make a significant impact on culture or other endeavors in the united states. president obama said all 21 of the people honored touched him in a powerful way and he had some fun while presenting michael jordan with his medal. take a listen. >> he's more than just a logo. more than just an internet meme. there is a reason you call somebody the michael jordan of. michael jordan of neuro surgery. or michael jordan of rabbis. or the michael jordan of outrigger canoeing. >> other sports figures were kareem abdul-jabbar and vin scully. new details are emerging of the treacherous path that many cuban players take to get to the major leagues. a smuggling ring held cuban
baseball stars at gunpoint in mexico, threatening to kill them if they tried to escape before signing lucrative contracts. two of the players who allegedly endured this were white sox first baseman jose abreu. court documents laid out yesterday accused bartolo hernandez of partnering with a smuggling ring in order to force exclusive deals as agent for 17 cuban baseball players. the trial is set to begin in january. cowboys quarterback dak prescott earning high praise for being caught on camera picking up an empty cup after missing the trash can. yesterday he talked about his heroics. >> more people need to pick up their trash, if it was that big of a deal. yeah, i just simply missed the garbage can. didn't think much of it. i don't shoot behind my back too much. i think the can was behind me. it was a little flip-back. >> most players wouldn't have got up to go get it.
kudos to him for being a standup guy. >> i love that. his mom taught him well. lions/vikings. got to give us a preview. thank you for joining me. "at this hour with berman and bolduan" starts now. i'm john berman. kate bolduan is off this morning. breaking news, a morning of firsts and lasts for the president-elect. the first time he taps someone other than a white male to be part of his administration. we have learned that south carolina governor nikki haley is the choice to be the first ambassador to the united nations, an up and coming leader in the republican party. on the subject of firsts, this is her first foray into international relations. other names floating this morning, reports that ben carson has been offered hud secretary. mitt romney is still a leading contender at state. and former cia chief david petraeus would take a job