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the screen. president obama will pardon either tater or tot. i i don't know which is which, but the president does. he'll make that selection. thanks for watching at this hour. "newsroom" with pamela brown starts right now. hello. welcome to "cnn newsroom." i'm pamela brown if nn for bria keilar. the holiday will probably not be entirely stress-free for donald trump and his closest aides. one more high announced, a any discussion, south carolina governor nikki haley trump wants to represent the u.s. at the u.n. trump says haley has a proorch record of bringing people together to move policies forward. haley says she's honored to join trump's team, and she might not be the only one. ben carson just dropped a pretty big hint about a big new job for himself.
cnn's jason carroll joins me from palm beach, florida, with the very latest. so what's going on with carson's tweet announcement about this possible upcoming role? what can you tell us, jason? >> reporter: looks like, pamela, we might van annoyancement sometime this afternoon according to what ben carson is saying. look at this tweet. basically tweeting that an announcement is forthcoming. look what he said on facebook. after serious discussions with the trump transition team i feel i can make a significant contribution, particularly to making our inner cities great for everyone. initially we thought last night perhaps ben carson was going to take the weekend, the holiday weekend, to think about this position, but it now looks like, pamela, looks like we might have a decision sometime later today. >> huh. all right. we'll keep our eye out for that. talk about nikki haley. you know very well, jason, trump is known to place loyalty over almost everything else, but didn't quite choose a longtime fan in this case. did he?
>> reporter: not a longtime fan at all. these two clearly have had a history. right now you've got donald trump saying that this is a governor that is very good at bringing people together in crisis, obviously referring to what happened with the confederate flag and her state of south carolina, but look what happened during the primary. nikki haimly endorsed marco rubio, criticized donald trump repeatedly for not releasing his taxes, for not disavowing donald duke, former leader of the kkk quickly enough. clearly, a tenuous history. take a listen to the critics, the criticisms we've heard these two lobby at each other sort of back and forth over time. >> first of all, she's very weak on illegal immigration. very weak. she's very, very weak on illegal immigration. you can't have that. >> we need to show that south carolina makes presidents, and that our next president will be marco rubio!
>> i will not stop until we fight a man that chooses not to disavow the kkk, that is not a part of our party, that's not who we want as president. we will not allow that in our country. >> well, pamela, you know in politics things can change very quickly. donald trump now feels as though nikki haley, governor nikki haley, is the right person to be a u.n. ambassador. he also says, you know -- the campaign has responded to critics saying she doesn't have the foreign policy experience. jason miller saying she has worked in overseas trading in the past, and nikki haley for her part releasing a statement saying in part, when the president believes you have a major contribution to make to the welfare of our nation, and to our nation's standing in the world, that is a calling that is important to heed. looks like these two have buried the hatchet and are ready to work together. >> all right.
if she is confirmed, important to note her lieutenant governor, who is a trump supporter, who was during the campaign, would then be governor of south carolina. jason carroll, thank you very much. we appreciate it. i'm going to talk more abouthal. appreciate it. you just heard jason touch on the criticism that's come out about nikki haley not having foreign policy chops and experience. what makes her qualified for this job as u.n. ambassador in your view? >> well, to borrow governor haley's catch phrase, it's a great day in south carolina and in america. governor haley established herself as one of the nation's best governors for many reasons. most of which, able to work across party lines a great ability to connect with people. she's a daughter of immigrants with a great perspective on other people's points of views and working across, burriers and party lines. she has that personal touch. a modern leader. she texts, does her own social
media. i think she understands the complexities of the world. every stage of life in her professional career established herself as leader from being president of her freshman caucus class in the state house to last week named vice chair of the rga, republican governors' association. governor haley has the skill set to be an incredibly talent and skilled u.n. ambassador. >> and most people outside of the state first learned about governor haley during last year's protest over the confederate flag. remind us how that went down. >> reporter: well, governor haley on the issue of the confederate flag in the wake of the charleston nine shooting, when it comes to things like floods, hurricane management, she is an incredibly competent manager of people and manager of agencies. i think she'll be good at that, at the u.n. but in the wake of the shooting, in charleston, of the emanuel nine, governor haley helped to bridge a divide here in south
carolina in a has divided the state a very long time. the confederate flag. it came down off the south carolina state house grounds. she overcame a lot of division to get that done and she exerted a lot of political will when many said it couldn't be done. so i think that's the case here, too, as u.n. ambassador. throughout her life she has proven people wrong. >> all right. matt moore, thank you so much for coming on the show. appreciate it. happy thanksgiving to you. >> thank you, pamela. and joining me now with more on the haley nomination and nominations yet to come are "washington post" columnist and cnn political analyst josh rogin and ryan lizza. first talk about ben carson. the newest news coming out just before the show, he made this announcement over twitter, something will happen, he'll play a role in the administration. speculation it will be hud secretary. your reaction? >> a couple things. he did run for president, and then his spokesperson, armstrong williams, said last week he did
not, carson was not going to serve in the trump administration, because he felt he was not prepared to run an agency. that is a spokesperson, not carson himself. maybe he was freelancing. first thing, unusual for a spokesperson to say you're not going to serve because you're not qualified. second thing is, we don't know from carson's background any experience he has about the housing issues that the head of hud would deal with. he's going to step into a position dealing with very sticky issues. bare housing act, for example. a lot of important questions around housing, desegregation that hud deals with. the obama administration has been very forward leaning keeping federal funds for cities they don't believe are doing enough on desegregated housing. sticky racial issues he'll deal with if confirmed for this position and, of course, hud is the agency that sued donald trump's organization way back in the '70s and '80s for unfair
housing practices. it's an important position. >> how might he be able to take his personal experience, though, to the table on this? you know, initially thought a good fit for health and human services. he's a doctor, obviously. what makes him a good fit for this in terms of the personal experience he brings to the table? >> i don't know, really. interesting to hear from him how he thinks anything in his packbound prepares him to run an agency like that. it is an important agency in a lot of inner cities. dealing with a lot of sticky issues around race and housing, and as one of the most high-profile african-american republicans, you know, he will bring a perspective to that job that a lot of other republicans might not. >> and what do you make of this, josh? as you pointed out, ryan, just last week his spokesperson, business manager, said he didn't feel he was qualified to run a big agency. as you point out, just a spokesperson. we don't know what ben carson actually thinks. what's your surprise? what's your reaction to this? >> i think the trump transition
team has been very open about the fact they want diversity in the cabinet. the last three were all white guys named mike. >> yeah. >> it's important to show it's going to be a cabinet that has a range of, of racial and gender identity. the other thing, a divide between loyalists and establishment people. a lot of the people that donald trump has been bringing in to see him have been people who weren't involved in the campaign, who weren't always supportive. nikki haley, general mattis. right? this is a nod to those people who are with trump in the beginning they will be rewarded, and the people waiting to see if they also get rewarded include chris christie and rudy giuliani. >> you mentioned nikki haley, criticism, lack of diversity thuft far before the announcement of her nominated for u.n. ambassador, young, daughter of indian immigrants. are those things as important to trump as her resume or perhaps more important given the context of the situation, ryan? >> a couple things. a little bit of south carolina
political intrigue with this pick. right? because the lieutenant governor -- >> pointed out earlier. >> the lieutenant governor ascends to the governorship. >> a supporter. >> early hard-core supporter of donald trump. there's been reporting that in some south carolina politicos really pressing nikki haley into the trump administration. >> you think part of the calculus? >> something that trump would take into consideration. right? a way to reward a loyalist. right? your loyalist is now going to be the governor of south carolina. an important state. look, she -- doesn't have experience, any foreign policy experience. that's important. others send their best diplomats. russia now has vitaly churkin, a longtime professional dip flat russia. we're sending, trump's going to send a governor of south carolina without foreign policy experience. she has to get up to speed on important issues quickly. >> and we hear secretary of
state apparently is romney, if he wants it. if it is offered to him, should he take it, josh? >> right. i think he should, and would take it, if offered. right now according to transition sources i talked to this morning, there are three camp. a camp in new york really wants rudy giuliani to be secretary of state. a camp in d.c., mostly foreign oels establishment people pushing hard for romney and a smaller camp pushing for john bolton. today the mix was thrown into disarray when general david petraeus gave an interview with budget bc news saying he would serve in the administration and could be a candidate for secretary of state. they're trying to find a candidate that appeals to all three camps. romney isn't the guy, they have to go down on their list. right now romney is in the leading position with a lot of support. also a signal to the foreign policy establishment which has been very never trump that the door is open and that they're welcome back into the fold, and that could be a signal for a lot of other people who don't want to work for trump but bo work for mitt romney.
>> david petraeus name is floated now. someone who not long ago reach add plea deal with the justice department over mishandled classified information. how likely is he to be someone in trump's cabinet? >> so far does seem like trump has a lot of respect and admiration for former military officials. right? his national security adviser general flynn, mattis is being considered seriously for defense. and now we've got petraeus in the mix. i don't know how serious petraeus -- maybe josh has more reporting on that, but the first thing people 30i7point out if te picks petraeus. >> given all the criticism about hillary clinton. >> the response simple. donald trump on the campaign trail. debated david petraeus. his whole thing, petraeus didn't do anything that bad and hillary clinton for doing much worse. if they choose david petraeus
saying, see? donald trump was on petraeus' side the whole time. >> a great, very telling pick. ideologically on foreign policy trump associated with one camp. the republican party. much nor non-interventionist, against the iraq war, more willing to engage with russia. the circle of people he's choosing here are in those camps in various ways. romney is probably the most, almost polar opposite of trump on all of the big foreign policy issues. if he chose romney, interesting, not because romney was his biggest critic but ideologically, haven't been the same. >> and nikki haley, a critic on the trail. >> and anti-iran, pro-israel. that would fit with romney if he decides to go that way and it would be a signal to the foreign policy community andals to countries around the world american foreign policy isn't really going to change as much as they might have thought. >> interesting discussion. thank you so much. ryan and josh, appreciate it. and up next, president-elect
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dealdash.com for great deals. and start bidding today! president-elect donald trump pushing back as questions about his international business ties telling the "new york times," in theory i could run by business perfectly and then run the country perfectly. there's never been a case like this. trump's argument, the law is totally on his side and the president can't have a conflict of interest. discussing this with cnn legal analyst and defense attorney danis savalas. get right to you it. is donald trump right when he says the president is exempt from conflict of interest laws? >> he sourrt of it, although phrasing it in a truly trumpian fashion, he is right when he says the federal criminal law that would apply to conflicts of interest for federal officials exempts spis s specifically the president and vice president and
specific rationale behind that is that the president every day makes so many decisions that have a butterfly effect all over the world. so it would be impossible to really analyze his conflicts of interest. whether they be business or otherwise. so it exempts him and allows him, trusts him with his judgment and the vision is that he will use his best judgment, even though it may adversely affect his business interests or promote them. >> what about, you know, you have anti-corruption laws, constitutional bans on accepting donations from foreign governments. the trump organization does businesses with companies all around the world. turkey, china, saudi arabia. azerbaijan. what, then? could anybody be enforced to keep the president in check potentially? >> it's a thornier issue whether or not he's violating what's called the emoluments clause. what that essentially does, prohibits the president from receives gifts, whatever those
may be, from foreign governments. an issue very little litigated. a lot of this is conjecture. for example, what constitutes a gift or payment from another country? what if it goes to trump's business and not him, he himself? how much can he separate himself? and then apartment end of the day, there is an issue of what's called justiciability. that basically means there are certainly issues you simply can't take to port. left to the political branch. for example, the president impeached and didn't like the process he can't ask a court to intervene because the court would recognize that process is laid out completely and left to another branch other than the judiciary. so this may be an issue that may not even be able to be adjudica adjudicated. >> and short of impeachment, there's really no way to enforce certain laws against him? really the only way when he's
president? >> that's the theory. exe for example, an emoluments clause, it's a precatory law. hope you use your best interest because there's nothing we can do about it if you decide to go rogue. >> thank you very much. bringing in brian hook, former foreign policy adviser to mitt romney, and with us, former chairman of the washington, d.c. democratic party. brian, start with you. thank you both for coming on. i appreciate it the bay before thanksgiving. "washington post," reuters and our outlet medias echoes richard nixon's infamous line to david frost almost 40 years ago. take a listen to that. >> in a sense you're saying that there are certain situations, houston, part of it one of them, where the president can decide that it's in the best interests
of the nation, or something, and do something illegal? >> well, when the president does it, that means that it is not illegal. >> is that a fair comparison, brian? >> well, scott -- i'm scott. >> scott. i'm sorry, scott. >> definitely i like brian. >> brian, jump in. >> of course, that statement was wrong. we know what happened to nixon shortly thereafter. the bottom line, this conflict of interest law, we've never had a candidate like donald trump. >> and donald trump says himself. >> right. so the statute, 203, the commentator was speaking about, didn't go far enough, because it presumed the president would do the right thing. set up a blind trust and what have you. so, of course, there's a conflict of interests here. of course, it may not be enforceable, but remember this -- the conflict of interest law is one thing. if the president or president trump breaks the law in some other way, whether it's fraud, foreign practices act, any other outwardly breaking of the law,
that's certainly enforceable against him, and secondly, look for congress, regardless whether republican run or not, look for them to strengthen some of these laws in this conflict of interest law. while they're all republicans they have good government types there and donald trump acts like he is abusing it like not divesting himself, what most elected officials do, then that's going to be a problem. it's not going to be -- he cannot be emperor of the united states of america. he has checks and balances and look for even republicans to keep limb in check. >> what do you think, brian, about that argument? go ahead. >> i think as donald trump said, this is unprecedented. in modern times we have not seen anybody with the scope and scale of his business holdings go into the oval office. and this is going to require, i think, a lot of necessary steps, a lot of consultation with white house ethics lawyers. he has haven't good lawyers working for him and every incentive to avoid the conflicts
of interest. elected to drain the swamp. very important i think for his voters and incentivized a think to put these issues behind him. reince priebus and mike pence both said that they will take all necessary steps to stay on the right side of the law. the right side of the constitution, and avoid the appearance of conflict. >> what is the incentive beyond him coming outside saying i want to drain the swamp? what really is it? what would incentivize him? >> the big incentive, you don't want a drag on your policy agenda. he wants to be able to advance the issues he was elected to help get passed through congress. if he's spending all of his time trying to knock down conflict of interest stories and getting on the right side of the constitution, that isn't where he wants to be. i think as time goes on, look, he was in business 50 years. the election was two weeks ago. it is going to take some time to work through all of these issues, and i think we have to assume they want to take the necessary steps.
>> if will take time. we have to take it into perspective. >> timing is one part of it. the reality, does donald trump and his team have the aptitude to drain the swamp? because if he doesn't divest, doesn't pay attention to these conflicts of interests, he's digging a deeper swamp, if you will. ily lly think politics, the meda big part in keeping him in check. midterms coming in two years. you can't ignore that. that's the stand the democrats will put their stake in to try to get back at least one of the houses. >> all right. i want to get your reaction, both of you, on this announcement, this tweet from ben carson about an announcement forthcoming about his role in helping to make america great again. the tweet right here. what do you think? scott, trump has been criticized for his lack of diversity in his cabinet. appears to be tapping ben carson. heard the nikki haley announcement earlier today. what's your reaction? >> initially publicly 0-4 on
diversity. maybe going to be 2-6. a natural pick for him. the, ben carson took him to detroit during the campaign. donald trump promised to change urban america with jobs, job training, entrepreneurship. if we're going to rebuild the city, as carson said in his tweet, most likely he's going for the department of housing and urban development and there's a lot to be done, ironically, hud is the one that sued trump 30 or 40 years ago in regards to race discrimination and tenants in the '70s. >> right. we brought that up earlier. >> an interesting pick, ye. >> yeah. >> and ben carson turned down health and human services. didn't want to do that. looks like trump doubled back. ben carson is an intelligent guy and will give to do trump straight. >> he said in the announcement today he had been talking to the trump transition team. this sort of makes sense.
what's your view on ben carson potentially being the hud secretary? >> ben carson is a natural pick for hud and nikki haley also a natural pick for u.n. ambassador. i think they both fit well in those respective roles. i think especially nikki haley, a very were bedside manner, something every diplomat needs. do well in turrettle bay and se to be good picks. >> what about mitt romney, secretary of state? >> the question, not so much whether he can be secretary of state, but an outstanding secretary of state compared to trump and his views on international relations. the question is, can mitt romney do it and work within this administration, because if donald trump is going to be the president, he'll be meddling with cabinet secretaries, that's a problem. >> and they have vastly different views when it comes to russia, for instance? >> how long would he last? >> exactly. thank you both for coming on. appreciate the interesting discussion. happy thanksgiving to you both. >> and to you. just ahead, the mayor of
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his blood sample sent too the state lab for processing and the ntsb is investigating. officials say the bus was going well over the 30 mile-per-hour speed limit. three fourth graders, a first grader and a kindergarten dired. 12 still in the hospital. six in the icu. the procedure of 6-year-old sy jana harris rushes to the bus i. go to the bus stop every morning and evening and know he gets in the same spot. when they told me at the front of the bus -- it automatically gave me the mother's instinct my baby was up there. i was putting on the kids one by one and hadn't seen my son yet. >> after hours of waiting, she learned her only child had died. doctors had trouble identifying students because they were so young.
>> many of them were unable to spell their names. did not know their birth dates. or even their parents' names. several said, mama when asked who their, what their name was. >> hmm. absolutely heartbreaking and we also lorned the name of another child killed in this crash. sa yeah ra mateen on the bus with her two sisters. couldn't find her because she was smashed between the seats. andy burk joins plea to discuss. first of all, mayor, truly or hearts go out to the families and condolences and your community for this terrible tragedy. today bill haslam the governor visited your school. >> the people are distraught and also generous. up here we're giving thanks for what we have, even though we know that there are many, many
problems that people are having in our cities. we certainly understand on this week, because it's thanksgiving, we all need to be with our families, appreciating them, thinking about our kids, because there are a lot of families hurting in our city right now. >> and how has the community pulled together? it's been pretty remarkable to see what everyone has done to sort of pitch in and help out in the wake of this tragedy. >> well, when i was at school this morning, people were putting together care packages. some had food and some had toys. we see that going on everywhere. at the hospital, the night of the incident, hundreds of pizzas were delivered to the hospital to help staff and even now for the families. the kitchens are stocked at the hospital where there are still six children and in intensive care. we put up a website where people could donate to the families, because of the amount of
traffic, it almost crashed yesterday. we had to do some technical work to make sure we could handle the traffic. it's just been a tremendous outpouring of support. particularly because one of the most unnatural things is to see a child suffer. we have seen a great deal of it as a result of this bus wreck, and people are trying to participate in any way possible. >> there has been a lot of scrutiny in the wake of this tragedy about the bus driver. we know he had been involved in a september crash. some parents say they had complained about his speeding. do you know why he was still driving a bus with these children? >> yes. the city doesn't actually operate the schools or the buses and i don't have any detailed information about that. what i can tell you is that we're asking anybody who may have information about the accident or anything that happened in the minutes before or even months before, to come forward and talk to our police
officers, in addition, the national transportation safety board is here. they're conducting an investigation. so anybody who has information of that kind, we would love to have them come forward and give it to us. >> all right, mayor andy berke, thank you very much. our hearts go out to you. and up next on this wednesday, what goes into protecting the president-elect at his vacation home? take you to mar-a-lago to see the major security changes happening right now as we speak. where we explore. protecting biodiversity. everywhere we work. defeating malaria. improving energy efficiency. developing more clean burning natural gas. my job? my job at exxonmobil? turning algae into biofuels. reducing energy poverty in the developing world. making cars go further with less. fueling the global economy. and you thought we just made the gas. ♪ energy lives here.
there will be no shortage of security restrictions on the ground, in the air and at sea. cnn's ed lavandera take as look. >> reporter: protecting president-elect donald trump is a challenge unlike any other, from trump tower in new york, to his private club in florida. >> so we're approaching mar-a-lago right here. >> reporter: it's a 20-acre waterfront estate in palm beach, secluded from the public, but he also shares it with as many as 500 members, who are willing to pay $100,000 to join. >> basically it's a compound. we have to treat it as such. >> reporter: former secret service ren ip rodriguez says in many ways ready-made for president's security. >> behind this natural barrier here, i assume is a fence. >> there's a wall back there. >> a wall. a tall wall. >> yeah. more than -- than 13 feet, i believe, which is great. which is great for -- for
deterring anyone trying to come on the premises. >> reporter: behind the wall, trump keep as residence that could become the winter white house. >> and i love florida. this is my second home. >> reporter: where presidents spend their vacations is a window into their personalities. george w. bush liked to spend the hottest month of the year on his ranch in crawford, texas. >> this is a wonderful spot to come up here and just kind of -- think about the -- >> reporter: george bush senior famously enjoined peaceful serenity of kennebunkport, maine. mar-a-lago is cut down the middle by a two-lane road, nestled between a stream of multimillion dollar homes. the best view from across the bay. rodriguez says secret service teams are assessing threats that could come by land, sea and air, and standing outside the club, it doesn't take long to see the skies above will be a major concern. >> i mean that plane is what,
maybe a couple thousand feet over us. >> reporter: the airport just a few miles left of mar-a-lago. >> you can see the -- the path for commercial aircraft. >> reporter: for years trump raged a legal battle to keep commercial and private planes from flying over this estate. now that he's president-elect, he might have just gotten his way. when on the property, rodriguez says the air space over mar-a-lago will be closed. >> the type of aircraft individuals would use to drive his plane on to the property. >> reporter: in the waters around mar-a-lago, the u.s. coast guard is already setting up security zones. some parts completely off limits. other areas that require permission before entering. rodriguez says secret service agents will also conduct renewed background checks on every club member, and inside the club they can also expect to see new levels of visible and invisible layers of security.
>> but life's going to change around here the next four years? >> yes, it will. most definitely. >> that was ed lavandera. thanks to him for that report. joining me now to discuss all of this, jeff bidi, lecturer on national security at the university of new haven and former fbi special agent and cia counterterrorism officer. thank you for coming on, jeff. appreciate it. i want to look at the comparison between mar-a-lago, where donald trump is spending his time for the holidays, and what past presidents have done. clearly, this is a different situation, because you have president-elect sharing mar-a-lago with 500 other people. how much of a security concern is that posing, or challenge, should i say? >> reporter: there are a host of new challenges, and unique challenges, every time a new president is sworn in. now, fortunately, there's only 500 people there. that may sound like a lot, but it is a group of people that can be easily checked into.
their ability to have guests when the president is in residence there in the future is going to be affected, but this is something that is well within the capabilities of the secret service working closely with local law enforcement and state law enforcement officials. it's something they can do quite handily. i was listening to the piece that ed had there, and speaking with rene about some of the threats from the air. you know, the last inauguration, and since then the drone threat has now evolved into something that is very real. so it's not just commercial aircraft. that's one of the new threats that the secret service will have to be addressing at mar-a-lago and elsewhere. >> right. d.c., you have the no drone zone, but else wre i think they're trying to figure out what to do about drones and how to regulate them. an interesting challenge. another interesting challenge for the secret service is the fact that trump will obviously be traveling to places like mar-a-lago, possibly to new york on the weekends. trump tower where we know milan dia and barron is to finish out
his school year. is the secret service equipped to handle all of this? >> well, the secret service in the past relied upon the assistance of state and local law enforcement. it's not a, an absolutely huge organization. it can't do it alone. you know, every time you've seen motorcades, i'm sure, every time a president comes to town, local police are involved with their motorcycles and blocking off side streets, et cetera. it's not thinking that canythin done alone by the secret service and thend the help of the joint terrorism task force in new york, florida, and elsewhere, or wherever the president might go. the threats evolved in recent years. so the secret service will have to have more coordination with other folk whose can help them do their job. >> you mentioned the threats evolving. talked about drones. do you believe trump's inauguration will pose additional security challenges than with past presidents? >> yes, it will.
although in the past i've consulted, for example, on the rose parade in pasadena. we were quite concerned about the type of attack we saw on the 14th of july in nice, where an individual took a truck and drove it through a crowd and killed 87 people. you know, when you have an inauguration route that is going to be used when the president is sworn in, you have got to do more to protect the side streets approaching. i mean, physical barriers. this is going to be something, and dwoent have to worry about just one person. you have to worry about perhaps a cell of people, who after all, on 9/11, we had multiple aircraft. imagine this, somebody tries to come in through a side street using a large vehicle. hard to stop. maybe able to threaten the motorcade. you might have a secret service vehicle ta sacrifice fises itself to block or take that out and get out of the kill zone. but what about two side streets down or a third site streed down? we've run our assets quickly.
a barrier plan has to be put in place. the likes of which we've not seen before. while some security officials anticipated as we did this type of threat it took about 10 or 12 years to manifest itself in nice and this is something people will have to contend with going forward. the motorcycles depend upon the will be kwapcooperation and a terrorist will not give you willing cooperation. >> jeff bidi, thank you for that. appreciate it. >> thank you. coming up on this wednesday, a story you have not heard from a presidential race like no other. shedding new light on president trump's stormy relationship with the press including the angry phone call he once got from mr. trump himself. find out i'm only 16% italian. o so i went onto ancestry, soon learned that one of our ancestors was eastern european. this is my ancestor who i didn't know about.
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would see throughout his presidential campaign, and just one of the early signs of his contentious relationship he would have with reporters cov covering him on the campaign trail and the way in which he tried to sometimes bully reporters to gain more favorable coverage. >> after that, did he ever single you out again? >> there were several other instances. one that comes to mind was a press conference back in march when i asked donald trump a question about policy, about his trade policy and the effects that would bring on the american consumer. donald trump didn't really like that question and what he said to me, jeremy, nobody listens to you. nobody listens to you and urged me to sit down. i was able to get a follow-up question in, however. >> well, i listen to you jeremy. thanks so much for coming on. >> reporter: thank you. >> thank you for coming on and sharing that story. appreciate it. be sure to check out the first-ever book from cnn politics, "unprecedented: the election that changed the
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