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♪ 3:00 eastern, i'm pamela brown in for poppy harlow on this saturday. you are live in the "cnn newsroom." we begin with the death of fidel castro at age 90. to some, a revolutionary hero, the father of modern cuba. to others, a brutal tyrant that ruled with an iron fifty. when he took over power, he released white doves signaling a new era. 57 years later, his death is triggering two very different types of powerful reactions. some are shedding tears of grief
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and others, tears of joy. miami, the heart of the cuban exile community, spontaneous celebrations erupted. many say his death will close a dark chapter in cuba's history. >> for cuban immigrants in miami, we are just happy that we have hope now. >> the mood in the cube ban capl is quiet and sombre. many are wondering about the political implications and what might come next. >> reporter: the cuban people are feeling sad because of the loss of our commander and chief, fidel castro. we wish him, wherever he is, that he is blessed and us cubans love him. >> his body will be created in accordance with his wishes, says his brother who took over cuba's
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leadership in 2008. he held on to power longer than any other national leader except queen elizabeth ii. the mood in parts of miami, florida, is one of celebration. ♪ this was the same last night in the city's little havana neighborhood, the heart of the exile community. hundreds marched through the streets chanting and waving as we see in this video. one woman said castro's death is a celebration of freedom. >> well, we are here because we are celebrating the freedom of cuba. we believe that after this moment, many things are going to change in cuba and also we are not in such happiness, because we are also celebrating all those people who have gave their lives and are not here today, and could not see this moment. for them, it would be a very
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happy moment. >> cnn correspondent, ed lavandera joins me from little havana. you have been there talking to the people on the streets in miami. let me get personal with you. your parents led the communist regime of fidel castro. what are they saying about his death? >> reporter: i think it is a very complicated story and really complicated by the fact that in many ways, cuban exiles didn't expect the end to come like this. for many, many years, they have expected that the death of fidel castro would signal an immediate change. many realize that is probably not going to be the case as they watch this day. i was talking with one man who has been very involved in the protest movement against the castro regime who described this as one of the first steps to bringing about real change to cuba. quite a moment just unfolded
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here. there was a woman who had a ceramic horse, fidel's nickname for the longest time was the horse. she said she bought this horse 50 years ago and saved it for this day. she came a while ago before we went on camera and smashed it down here on the street. she bought the horse specifically for that. we are joined by a man named enrique santos. who, like myself, we have known each other quite a while. parent, cuban, grandparents, cuban. he is a well-known d.j. here in the miami community. really well-known, because you prank called fidel castro. it is one of those things that went viral to say the least. >> it definitely went viral. >> reporter: when you see this, how do you explain it to people who don't have a connection to the cube ban exile experience who in many ways are celebrating the death of a human being? what do you say to those people out there? >> to me, personally, i'm here, i don't thu we should celebrate the death of a human being.
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i'm celebrating the death of a dictator. we are able to see the cuban exiled community on 8th street agreeing. i am proud of my miami crowd right now. there are no fists being punched, nobody is pushing or insulting. it is a lovely community. i see people from venezuela, chile, mexicans as well, united as latinos. they are not able to demonstrate in cuba, here the exiled cube ban community are doing what cuba cannot do. >> reporter: what do you think this means in terms of what happens next in cuba? what do you think the people here -- we know what they want to see. what is the reality of what we are going to see? >> you don't want to be the bearer of bad news. we all know the history. the people in charge there from raul down an everyone that surrounds him, they have blood on stained hands. we know there is not going to be
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any type of transition. i don't think it will mean anything significantly, maybe not any time soon. there is definitely hope that we can see a free and democratic cuba in the veneer future. >> what is your family telling you? >> i'm here with my mom. it is so symbolic to be here. my grandparents, her parents, have both passed away. they weren't able to be here to see this moment. i was at home watching everything. i was torn. too do i go to the radio station and go out and come and see the community? my heart told me i had to be here and bring my mom out here, to be here joinnd spirit with the cubans in the island. >> reporter: thank you very much. >> gracias. >> reporter: that really kind of captures the mood here as enrique mentioned, this has been the site for decades and decades where cuban exiles have come and debated and argued and contemplated the future of
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u.s./cube ban relations would be. no doubt on a day like this, the chant you here is at last this day has come. >> it is fascinating to see the dichotomy of people there on the streets celebrating. people in cuba on the quiet streets. we heard the one woman say she is mourning his death. we'll dive a little bit deeper and talk it over with florida congressman, ileana ross layton. congresswoman, first off, castro was such a polarizing figure. you say, quote, a tyrant is dead and a new beginning can dawn. what do you have to say to cubans that are mourning, specially those in havana who considered castro an inspiration? >> those individuals in havana or elsewhere in the island nation who are mourning his death do so outside of their home, because they don't want to be arrested. they don't want to be harassed.
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they don't want to be detained. they don't want to be exiled, which is what happens to anyone that disagrees with the castro regime in any way, shape, or form. cuban disi cents are being rounded up as they always are to send a strong message to the cube ban population that there will be no dissent on these days. privately in their homes, these same individuals who probably are proclaim tog any press covering this in cuba that they lament the loss of their leader, they are probably celebrating inside in the privacy of the home. fidel castro was a tyrant, an evil dictator. i think it is terrible that president obama issued a statement offering condolences to the castro family. what about condolences to the family members of those who fidel castro personally executed, because he did so. what about the family members of
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condolences to them that have been executed under orders of fidel castro or the political disi cents that are or currently are in jail. there are so many victims. i represent a community made up larnlly of victims of castro's tyranny. i was born in cuba, had to flee with my family when i was eight. we did not want to live in an oppressive communis stick dictatorship. i can't believe that condolences are being bestowed on the family of a dictator with no mention of dissidents that are being harassed and detained and imprisoned. yes, castro has died. remember, that transition of power happened years ago where fidel said to his baby brother, not too much younger than he, then you're the next dictator in charge. they don't have election s in cuba, political parties. they don't have free speech. they run this as a freedom and
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the president and state department made no declaration acknowledging the grief that was brought upon by castro's sadistic am bigs. >> you point out, congresswoman that fidel castro handed the reigns to his brother. his brother, raul castro, has said that he will step down in a couple of years. what is your hope for the future in cuba and how do you think that he will rule moving forward now that his brother has died? do you think raul castro will continue the restrictive policies? >> absolutely. he will continue the repressive actions. he will continue that kind of actions against all political dissidents, because why would he need to change? i think he is going to get a wakeup call when president-elect trump takes over, because president-elect trump has said, i'm going to roll back those concessions to the castro regime unless there is freedom for the
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political prisoners and religious freedoms as well. we know raul castro has been ruling cuba with an iron fiftst. what is the motivation for him to change? he wants to step out of power, not because they are going to have elections, not because they are going to choose their leaders. he will choose the next dictator and chief. that is how power is handed down in the castro regime. people want to be free. it doesn't matter if you are cuban or syrian, wherever you live. >> okay. congresswoman ileana ross leightonen, it sounds like we lost you on the phone. more reaction to fidel castro's death. we will take you live to the white house and the incoming president's estate in palm beach. the security could shell out a pretty penny to release space at trump tower. why they are raising some eyebrows jill stein's recount efforts
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ryan, you had just gotten reaction from the trump team what do they say? >> reporter: i think the statement shows that the trump campaign is taking this recount seriously. they are not just ignoring it as donald trump, the president-elect himself releasing a statement. it says, the people have spoken. the elec is ovetion is over. she said, quote, we must accept this result and look to the future. then, trump goes on to really draw most of his criticism at green party candidate, jill stein, hoiwh who is the person this effort. she formally filed the paperwork to make it a reality. >> in recount is just a way for jill stein who received less than 1% of the vote and wasn't on the ballot in many states, to
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fill her coffers with money. all three states were won by large numbers of voters, specially pennsylvania, which was won by more than 70,000 votes. this is a scam by the green party for an election that has already been conceded and the results of this election should be respected instead of being challenged and abused, which is exactly what jill stein is doing. what's interesting about this, it is one thing for jill stein to take this step. now, we also know that the clinton campaign is going to get involved, at least on the periphery. they said they will join in the work being done in this recount to make sure it is done effectively and efficiently. mark elias, counsel for hillary clinton regarding election law says the clinton campaign is taking steps to rule in or out the possibility of outside interference in this vote tally. the clinton campaign themselves said the initial review showed
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no evidence that there was any thought of outside interference but now that the stein campaign has taken this step, the clinton campaign is going to join them to rule out any possibility. >> what is the white house saying about this call for a recount? >> there are a couple of things they want to reemphasize. they still believe that russia, at least tried, in part, to influential the election, that they did, in part, ask or order hackers to do so. they are not absolving russia's role. they also believe they were not effective in doing that. this is from a senior administration official i spoke with earlier today who told me that the federal government did not observe any increased level of malicious cyberactivity aimed at disrupting our electoral process on election day. as we have noted before, we remain confident the overall integrity of electoral infrastructure, a confidence borne out on election day. as a result, we believe our elections were free and fair
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from a cybersecurity perspective. they are not ruling out the possibility. i know it still has to play out whether or n there was any kind of voter fraud, machines, ballots that were not counted. they did not want to get into the details of that. they want that to simply play out and have the american people be confident in the election results but when it comes to russia and russia's role in trying to alter this, they say that ultimately, they were not successful, pam. >> what is clear, russia wanted to cast doubt on our election system and our process, which the white house had been talking about in the weeks leading up to the election. suzanne malveaux, ryan nobles, thanks so much for your reporting there. we appreciate it. it has long been a landmark on the new york skyline. trump tower has become the center of the political universe. straight ahead, how secret service agents are keep teeing secure and who is paying the staggering price tag. you are live in the "cnn newsroom." we'll be back.
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we have lernld the secret service is considering renting an entire floor from trump tower to protect the president-elect and his family. it comes with a huge price tag. about $1.5 million a year on average. cnn's rachel crane is right outside trump tower. who would be responsible for footing the bill?
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>> reporter: well, pam, as usual, it would be taxpayer dollars that would go towards protecting the president. the unusual thing here is that trump organization owns trump tower behind me, meaning that if that floor of trump tower is rented by the secret service, that money would be going back towards the trump organization. we know that donald trump intends to hand over the reigns of his business to his children once he becomes president. we have more details on that. >> they are fantastic people. i want to thank the secret service. >> reporter: 725 fifth avenue, also known as trump tower, might be getting a new tennant, the secret service. a law enforcement official tells cnn that the secret service is considering renting a whole floor of the famed tower in order to establish 24/7 command post ensuring the safety of the future first family who won't
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all be moving to the white house in january. melania and their ten-year-old son, baron, will continue to live in trump tower. when asked about the timing of their move, trump said this. regardless of when they relocate, the command post at trump tower won't be cheap. the going price for the space, around $1.5 million a year. the price tag is striking. it is not just cost that's raising eyebrows. the trump organization owns trump tower. so tax payers would be paying the president-elect for his own security. officials tell cnn secure plans are still evolving since many things are up in the air like when the future first family will move to the white house and how often the president-elect plans to visit them in the meantime. >> pam, the interesting thing is that this could actually be the
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cheaper option, renting this floor in trump tower. the alternative would be the secret service renting hotel rooms in the area. being in mid-town manhattan, hotel rooms are not cheap. trump's security detail involves the nypd. sources tell us that $1 million a day is going towards keep thg area safe. >> certainly not cheap, protecting the president or president-elect. rachel crane, thank you very much for that. we do appreciate it. coming up on this saturday, the clinton campaign announcing they will take part in recount efforts in several key states. donald trump weighing in on the recount efforts. we are live in the "cnn newsroom" and will be right back.
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the qulclinton campaign announcing it will take part in recount votes in wisconsin, michigan and pennsylvania after
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a group of computer scientists said they found possible evidence of hacking. the clinton campaign says it is not going to contest the results but ensure it is fair to all sides. let talk about this. joining me symone sanders, she worked with the sanders campaign and supported clinton in the general election. and join meing me martha kumar. trump says, the people have spoken, and the election is over and as hillary clinton herself said on election night, in addition to her conceding by congratulating me, we must accept this result and then look to the future. this is a scam by the green party for an election that has already been conceded and the results of this election should be respected instead of being challenged and abused. symone, pretty strong word there
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from donald trump. democrats were up in arms at the mere suggestion that trump may not accept the election result if he were to lose. are clinton and others not doing the same thing by pushing for this recount? >> absolutely not. no one has said we are not accept willing the results of the election. democrats haven't said that. i don't believe the clinton tam pain has said that. there is evidence across the board that the russians were campering in our election process from the fake news, to hacking and the democratic national committee, the clinton campaign, personal e-mails and others. this is ensuring the integrity of the process. no one is challenging the results just yet. there are mechanisms for a recount and that is what dr. jill stein is exploring. the clinton campaign is coming in to make sure it is done right. >> i want to bring in scotty nel hughes. we have her on the telephone. we have you in person there. i want to ask you, on the wake
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of what we heard her say. trump claimed the election was rigged and he had people monitor polling stations. he said, all three states were won by large numbers. in michigan, he was up by 10,000. if there was a possibility that election systems were compromised or hacked and votes were counted improperly, should that be investigated. >> the difference what mr. trump was saying for the last year and a half and what the democrats and jill stein are claiming are two different things. they are claiming somebody outside of the u.s. came in and hacked and changed votes forever. mr. trump was claiming it was a rigged system that was against him. you had there at the polls actual votes happening that day. there could be polls or vote switching. it wouldn't have been an outside group coming in to aller elections. we are looking at 9 of the 13 battleground states mr. trump won. if the democrats want to spend
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more of their time doing this than figuring out why their party lost, i'm all for it. put your energy into this. they should step back and say, why did they lose connection with these states? >> symone, does she have a point? >> i would like to say hillary clinton won the popular vote and the democrats did something right. the american people that did go to the polls overwhelmingly voted for secretary clinton. a chance to take a look at the electoral college. regardless, no one is saying the election is rigged. nair are folks na say there is some evidence that perhaps our systems were tampered with. that is worth looking into. both side, democrats, republicans, independents, green party alike, should care about the integrity of our elections. >> just to be clear, there was
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no evidence that the systems were hacked. >> millions were raised and the people have spoken. there has been one filing. we will talk to jill stein. i want to switch gears and bring in martha. i want to turn to you to what we just reported before the break, about the potential costs to protect donald trump and the first family. i learned from a law enforcement official that the secret service plans on potentially renting out a floor at trump tower, about $1.5 million a year and the $1 million a day to protect the family there in new york city. how does this compare to past presidents? is this unusual, martha? >> i think that people want their president protected, no matter how much it costs. the thought of not having a president fully protected is unthinkable. whatever it takes and the secret service certainly knows its business. it knows how to protect a president. i don't think anybody is going
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to quibble about how much it costs. >> scotty, now, on that note, this is obviously a large price tag. as i pointed out earlier, it is expensive to protect a president-elect or president. it does raise potential ethical concerns because trump's company could benefit from his own protection detail at the cost to tax payers. what is your reaction to that? >> well, i think, like the other guest just said, we will do whatever it takes to protect our president. it is obviously something that was in the thought of the secret service. i am sure they have been preparing for months either way, whether hillary clinton was elected or donald trump was elected. if this is the best way to do it. as regard the money going back into the trump organization, it is all about keeping that person safe. let's remember, hillary clinton, we talked about how much money the secret service has had to pay for other past presidents. this is not the first time that money has gone back into the family. there was property rented from the clintons they were able to
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pay. it is a very large sum. whatever it takes to protect the president, that's what we need to do. >> we do not know what negotiations are happening. the bush twins went off to college and had to have protection. how is that different from them protecting trump's son when he is at school in new york? >> i think the president and the president-elect's family has to be top priority. it is the price tag raising issues. no one knew prior to the election that melania trump would not be moving to the white house. this us unprecedented. none of this is normal. this $1.5 million price tag that is raising issues. that's something that we have to talk about. that's an exorbitant amount at
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the cost of safety. one could argue that the safety of the president's family is priceless. >> also, it is a dangerous world. think how dangerous our world is and how many threats there are and how many threats there have been against presidents. that's just something that i think that one tonigdoesn't wan really question. >> the secret service has their work cut out for them. the fact that trump tower is right there on fifth avenue, busy corridor, one of the busiest cities in the world. when you take a step back and look at this transition and how it has played out so far, is there anything in particular that stands out to you? >> i think that the shift from campaigning to governing has certainly been -- is one that has been working pretty well, particularly in the area of appointments. he is ahead of his predecessors
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in appointments and also it is a particular challenge when you make that move. and troy to assemble a new team and do it in a very short period of time. appointments have been doing well. on policy, you can see he is making the shift where you find that maybe not all of the ideas that you campaigned on are ones you want to govern on. he has been adjusting, people's expectations in areases like immigration. his prosecuting, calling for the prosecution of hillary clinton. a lot of the very sharp edges from the campaign you see softening now as you approach governing. you are making the move of being the candidate of one party to
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being the president of all the people. you have to take into consideration all the different views that there are on these subjects. >> it is fascinating too that he is willing to let in foes during the campaign trail into his cabinet. we will have to see what happens about mitt romney. there is speculation he might be named secretary of state. symone sanders, martha kumar and scott ty neil hughes. thanks very much. how the world is reacting to the death of fidel castro. you are live in the "cnn newsroom." we will be right back.
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the death of cuba's fidel castro is prompting reaction. pope francis sent a telegram to his brother, raul, on receiving the sad news of the death of your dear brother, i express my sentiments of sorrow to your excellency and other family members of the deceased dignitary as well as to the people of this beloved nation. with the death of fidel crass stro, the world has lost a man who was a hero for many. china said, the chinese people have lost a close comrade and sincere friend. this from vladmir putin, in a telegram sent to raul.
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we continue to look at the life and legacy of fidel castro. the impact of his near half century in power depends on who
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you talk to. martin savidge looks back at castro's life and how he came to be one of the most reviled leaders in the west. >> reporter: depending on whom >> reporter: depending on who you talk to, fidel castro was a legend or a despised tyrannical dictator. there is no middle ground. castro came to power in 1959 in widely popular revolution, overthrowing the country's dictator, fulgencio batista. it wasn't long before the bearded rebel's ideology put him on a collision course to america. the u.s. decided to act. >> i have directed the armed forces -- >> reporter: first launching an
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assassination attempt, while the cuban leader allowed the ussr to build missile silos on the island, bringing the world to the brink of nuclear war. thousands of castro's well to do cubans fled the country. the millions left behind became a one-party communist state, led by one man himself. >> translator: he imposed the idea that those who didn't like it could leave. he divided families. >> reporter: many saw positives. education and health care for all, racial integration. what fidel achieved in the social order of this country has not been achieved by any poor nation and by even rich countries, despite enormous precious. >> reporter: but critics say it came at a terrible cost. >> translator: the freedoms given to the cuban people were
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turned into the nightmare we have today, a totalitarian regime in which all liberties have been abolished. >> reporter: castro was unable to bring economic prosperity. for that castro blamed the united states and its embargo. but many blamed the man himself, pointing to his unwavering believe in a socialist model. opponents were often dismissed as traitors, imprisoned or compil exiled. castro became a target of international condemnation. but castro never backed down, proudly defending his record on human rights. >> interpreter: never has a person disappeared in cuba. we feel proud of our clean record in relation to this problem. >> reporter: call it pride or
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selective reasoning, but castro never lost faith in the revolution. his intelligence and shrewdness continued to command fear and respect. he would eventually outlive many of his critics and outlast ten u.s. administrations. in the end it was illness, not washington, that forced him to retire. passing cuba's leadership to his younger brother raul. in his last years, castro appeared only occasionally, mostly in photos, looking frail. at times he tried to play the role of elder statesman. but more and more he simply seemed inconsequential. >> interpreter: the cuban government has been very agile. it slowly removed him from the scene. it would have been one thing if he abruptly died back in 1986. instead his importance has slowly faded. >> reporter: castro insisted death is not something he
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feared. >> interpreter: i have never been afraid or concerned about death. i do not feel attached to positions and not attached to that called power. >> reporter: that latter statement seems ironic coming from a man who almost singlehandedly dictated over cuba for nearly half a century. >> our thank you to cnn's martin savidge for that reporting. after the break, more on the death of fidel castro, one of the world's most infamous leaders. we're live from miami's little havana neighborhood. later, the recount in several states that could upend the election. president-elect trump calls jill stein's effort ridiculous. walked around the shelter,
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