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donald trump taking a victory lap. this is cnn tonight. i'm don lemon. the president-elect kicking off what his campaign is calling the usa thank you tour with a rally in cincinnati tomorrow night. no details yet on plans for any other events but trump says he's heading to indianapolis tomorrow to officially announce a deal with carrier to keep roughly 1,000 jobs from moving to mexico. a big win for him. what will it mean for other companies in the same boat? plus election day was more than three weeks ago, but an ugly battle is raging in one key state where the republican governor is refusing to concede even though he trails by thousands of votes. we'll discuss all of that. let's get to mark preston and ryan lizza and kevin maddon. trump has named his economic team. >> let's start off with the treasury secretary donald trump would like to take over.
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he is steve mnuchin. he's a finance chairman. he helped raise the money for the presidential campaign. he bought indy mack. the most interesting thing about him is he's a hollywood movie producer and produced films like the lego movie. will bert ross is a billionaire investor. he resurrected dying companies. his company owned that mine in west virginia where 12 miners died in the explosion. he was a trump supporter all through the election. interestingly enough about ross, he was a long time democrat. now todd rickus, his family owns the cubs. he initially backed scott walker and supported trump but a superpac. donald trump had negative things
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to say about rickets and the family back earlier in the campaign because he didn't like they were spending money against him, but clearly now he likes him. >> to you, ryan. mark mentioned wilbur ross, and tonight erin burnett spoke to him about the administration's priorities. here it is. >> and you now are a key part of trump's core selling point on trade, right? he says he's going to redo america's trade deals. that was a big part of his stump speeches. what is the big thing you're going to do on day one? nafta? what is it? >> we're working out the fine point details, but nafta is a large part of his campaign. it's a starting point. >> so trump rallied against nafta and nearly every rally. we're rolling -- will rolling back nafta help bring jobs back to the u.s.
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>> most of the studies who looked at nafta said it's a small plus net in terms of jobs. other jobs have been gained. it didn't sound like wilbur ross was a huge enthusiastic backer of ripping up that trade agreement. he said they'd take a look at it. like a lot of the clear promises on the campaign trail, there is a period in this presidential transition where some of the rougher edges are getting sanded off. and it is a republican party that was really at odds with donald trump on a lot of these big issues. i think he's finding it's hard to find nationalist populist republicans. trump is one of the few in the party that believes what he believes, and i think a lot of these people coming in are not totally in sync with him on some of the big issues like trade. >> kevin maddon, to you now. i want to talk about this
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secretary of state job. still haven't seen the pick for secretary of state. tonight newt gingrich ridiculed mitt romney for his change on trump. >> there's a scene in "pretty woman". richard gear goes up to a sales woman and says we need sucking up here. you have never in your career seen a serious adult who is wealthy, independent, has been a presidential nominee suck up at the rate that mitt romney is sucking up. and i am confident that he thinks now that donald trump is one of his closest friends, that they have so many things in common, that they're both such wise, brilliant people, and that -- i'm sure last night at an elegant three star restaurant in new york that mitt was fully at home, happy to share his view of populism which includes a certain amount of superb
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cooking, but it was done in a populist, happy manner. >> i think we can all agree that wasn't a little bit shady. that was some heavy shade thrown. i had hater aid you know mitt romney very well. what is he thinking? what's the political and personal calculus he's making? >> i don't think he's making a political calculation. he's never going to be on the ballot again. think i personally mitt romney would be better off personally enjoying retirement with his wife and his kids and his grand kids. i think he's in this conversation because he's driven by a sense of duty, and a sense that he can contribute to a president-elect who, i think, has sought out and values some of the incites and expertise he may have. when there's criticism from folks inside the trump inner
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circle, i think he accepts it, to tell you the truth. he is somebody who has gone through many campaigns, whether it's been presidential campaigns or as governor of massachusetts. and he's never really worried about the criticism. i think he's always focussed on what can i do to contribute? what can i do to help move the ball forward on policy? who can i -- if there are other elected officials that i can help, where can i do that? and newt gingrich in 2012 campaign when governor romney was the. nominee was helpful for mitt romney. he sought out the campaign and offered a lot of advice that was very welcomed and was very valued within the campaign, and he spoke very highly of governor romney then. that's the newt gingrich i choose to remember. >> i know a couple of people who know mitt romney personally. you know him personally. everyone says he is a decent, nice man, and i think everyone gets that. his egois not a problem. >> he doesn't need an ego that
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has to be soothed. he cares most about what his family and friends think about him. and, again, the reason he's in this conversation is because he's driven by a sense of duty, and remember, he was sought out for his incites on national security and foreign policy. as a result he's been considered for secretary of state. i think if he get it, he'd be glad to serve. if he doesn't, he'd be glad to help in any other way. >> are we getting new information about the director of national intelligence? >> we are. jim acosta and others are reporting there are three people right now under consideration to head dni, the director of national intelligence agency. that is former senator dan coats, former admiral michael rogers and the former homeland advisor fran town send. we're tualking about donald trup putting together his cabinet. the leading contender for the
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homeland security department is a former general by the name of john kelly. donald trump as we're focusing so much on the secretary of state it is so important, there are other agencies right now that the trump campaign is moving forward on, or seems to be closer to putting people in place. >> ryan, did you want to say something before i go on? >> no. go ahead. i was going to say the dni job is interesting, because there are some republican who don't like the setup and want to get rid of it. it will be interesting to see who he picks and if they have a history of favoring the bureaucracy of the dni or not. donald trump has been taking calls from foreign leaders without the state department briefing. they haven't made the readouts public. but the pakistani government released notes and donald trump released a statement a short time ago. he said you have a very good reputation. you have a terrific guy and doing amazing work which is visible in every way.
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i am looking forward to seeing you soon. pakistanis are one of the most intelligent people. i am ready and willing to play any role you want me to address and find solutions to outstanding problems. it will be an honor and i will do it. feel free to call me, even before the 20th of january before i assume my office. >> it certainly sounds like trump. >> every word in the conversation with the leader of pakistan is scrutinized. is there a danger in this kind of nonchalant call? >> there's a huge danger. the balance between pakistan and india is delicate, and both countries look for any sign to see whether the president or the incoming president is favoring one country over another. and so you have to be really careful in what you tell the leaders of these countries, especially when it's publicly released.
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i don't think we have that much visibility into what kind of briefings if any donald trump is getting. but that's one of the most delicate relationships in the world. and you could very easily make a mistake, and in the indian and pakistani press this is a big story what he said to the pakistanis and the indians read that and if they -- if he said something that they interpret as leaning more toward pakistan than india, that has big g geopolitical ram ri facts. the power of the president-elect's words. in the campaign it's like a garden hose. when you're president it's like a fire hose. you're making policy on the spot. >> thank you, ryan. we hadn't seen you in a while. glad you're back. thank you kevin. >> just past any bedtime. >> mark, thank you. when we come back, an ugly election battle still raging and
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election battle raging tonight has nothing to do with donald trump and hillary clinton. it's in north carolina where the state's republican governor is refusing to concede to his democratic challenger roy cooper. the state's board of elections today ordering a machine recount where cooper received the majority of the vote. we have more. >> reporter: in north carolina
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an ugly battle rage on. three weeks after donald trump easily beat hillary clinton. the republican governor is attempting to hold onto power despite trailing in the vote. >> we're going to do this the right way. >> reporter: on election night his democratic opponent roy cooper was nearly 5,000 votes ahead. just one tenth of one percent. the race was declared too close to call. election precincts got ten days to recount the ballots. but then the campaign filed challenges in 50 counties. or half the state. alleging ballots were cast by dead people, felons and double voters. some of those claims have been dismissed due to a lack of evidence. monday there was a lead that grew to over 9,800 votes. democrats implore the governor to give up the fight.
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>> be the bigger man here and realize you can't keep trying to delay the inevitable, but that you lost. and you have to move on. >> reporter: state election fishes also issued a directive. challenges to a voter's eligibility filed after election day must be thrown out. a devastating blow to the mccrory campaign, coopers team declared. now state republicans are focussed on durham county where they believe ballots still being counted will swing in their favor. >> the process has to be gone through whether there's a likelihood of changing the outcome or not. >> voting rights group say while there's little evidence of voter fraud in north carolina, there has been plenty regarding voter suppression. this past electn democrats noted early voting hours dramatically reduced in black communities. just days before the election the naacp accused three counties
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of illegal voter purges targeting african americans and a federal judge agreed ordering to restore names to voter rolls. >> we pledge to fight with every legal and moral tool we have. >> reporter: and don, today a federal judge extended a deadline for another legal challenge, this one by a conservative group taking issue with same-day voter registrations. it was supposed to happen on friday. that has been now pushed pack to december 8th. stay tuned, don. >> absolutely. thank you. i want to bring in now the executive director of the north carolina republican party. good evening to you. you just saw him, by the way in that report. let's start with the governor's race. governor mccrory behind by thousands of votes. there's now a recount in durham county. do you think it will change the outcome? >> well, i don't know the answer to that. what i believe it will change is
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it will give people confidence in the outcome, don. we believe that we have a duty to the public to make sure that they have confidence in the result. the board of elections found tonight that there were significant voting irregularities in durham. they had voting machines crash. they had corrupted data. that was the finding today. so we're going to recount durham. i got to tell you, suzanne is a good reporter, but she had several inaccuracies in the support. there's been no voter suppression in north carolina. we offered more early voting hours and more early voting sites than ever before in north carolina. what happened to democrats as we defeated hillary clinton and we defeated democrats up and down the ballot was there wasn't a suppression problem but a depression problem that they didn't like their candidate, but there were more early voting opportunities than ever before. >> two things, she's an excellent reporter.
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-- >> she's a great reporter but that was wrong. >> there have been several reports of voter depression. >> voter elections will show you more early voting hours, more early voting sites than ever before despite the rhetoric. >> duly noted. i think it's more than rhetoric, but let's move on get back on track. >> it's rhetoric if you don't accept the facts and correct them and recognize we had more early voting hours. that's what the state board of election us reports. why don't you fact check me and bring me back? >> why don't we stick to the point and i won't have to bring you back and we can discuss what we're supposed to discuss. if we want to talk about that, we'll decide to talk about it, maybe not with you but with somebody else. >> maybe with somebody who gets facts right. >> if you want to be confrontational, the viewer gets nothing out of it. if you want to have a
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discussion, i would like to do that. can we agree to do that? >> i just want to make sure we have the facts right. >> you didn't answer my question. >> we provided more early voting opportunities -- >> are you going to answer the question or just sit here and filibuster. >> what's the question? he >> you have dismissed the charges of voter suppression q but we saw early voting sites reduced by 16 to one this year. the naacp also had to sue to get people back on the rolls who were mistakenly purged. you don't think that's voter suppression? >> we had nothing to do with any removal of voters. i believe they were put back on. we don't believe any legitimate voters should be taken off the rolls. >> i didn't ask if you had anything to do with it. you don't believe it's voter suppression? >> i think your facts are not right on that, but we do not favor removing legitimate voters
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from the rolls. and i'm not aware anybody was kept from voting. >> okay. you wrote an e-mail soon after a federal court struck down north carolina's voter i.d. law that county election boards should make party line changes to early voting by limiting hours, keeping polling locations closed on sundays, so what was your intent there, then? >> well, i mean, our party is not necessarily in favor of early voting. excuse me, on early voting on sundays. i would just say that i presume you live in new york or new jersey where there's not one single day or early voting or one single day in virginia. we have 17. we allow people to vote early by mail for two months and we have ample opportunities. at the same time we have a partisan system and a right to advocate our position which is we don't think we ought to vote early on sundays. we think six days a week over 17 days is enough, but we weren't effective in that because we voted on sundays anyway and we
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ended up having lots of early voting and lots of people voted early. by the way, we had record turnout for early voting. we're proud of that. >> you don't think people should be given the opportunity to vote as many days as possible as many hours as possible as part of the american process? >> i think -- i guess we could start voting right now for 2018 or 2020 or 2022. >> that would be interesting since we don't know who the candidates are but go on. >> you said they ought to be able to vote as much as they want forever. i'm just answering your question. i think we have a right to have some limits. but what i would say is the bottom line is we conducted this election under the rules the democrats crafted. 17 days of early voting. we had more early voting sites across the state than ever before, more early voting hours and more people voted early. i don't know what the argument is. it's not our fault the democrats couldn't motivate their people
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to come vote. they should have nominated a better candidate that excited some of their people. >> yeah. i don't think anybody is arguing. maybe you are. thank you dallas woodhouse. appreciate it. when we come back, the man leading the fight against voter suppression. [ male announcer ] eligible for medicare? that's a good thing, but it doesn't cover everything. only about 80% of your part b medical expenses.
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north carolina's ugly election battle raises questions about voter suppression. here the president of the north carolina naacp. reverend, thank you for joining us. first your response to what you just heard. he said there is no voter suppression in north carolina. >> very interesting. he's used to saying things like that, but the reality is the federal courts have said north carolina and the republican party and the governor legislature passed the worse voter suppression laws since jim crow's surgical racism. the courts have ordered they must redraw and have a special election in 2017. they were found guilty of purging voters, african american
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voters and forced to put them back on the books. he was caught red handed writing a memo suggested to republican led boards of election local that they should put in place rules that represident-elect the republican values and not the values of the courts. we know the facts, 158 let's sites this year in early voting. one example is greensboro had 16 in 2012. had only one in the first week of early voting and all the sites were removed from the campuses. the rhetoric of brother woodhouse and the facts are different thing. >> what about widespread voter fraud. >> that's interesting. what you have is the group that was found guilty of engaging in fraud, in voter suppression now trying to say other people are guilty of fraud. so you have the guilty party trying to blame project onto other people. there's been no voter fraud.
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it's not proven. they filed a bunch of bonus compliants. canvassing is normal. we support it. we support counting provisional ballots and hearing complaints and recounts but they should be done legitimately, not through bonus complaints that his own republican led local boards and state board has thrown out. don, i don't mean to make a joke. it's not funny. it's like don lemon is suing don lemon. you got the republican party suing the state board of election that they control. the governor that controls the state board of elections fighting themselves. it's tragic. and what it is is this is the only state that trumpism didn't sweep everything. the governor's race that was held by the attorney general and the state supreme court were
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all -- >> let's talk about donald trump. the director of the democracy program at n y u said the trump administration could change the voting landscape in a few ways. voter rolls are trying to push legislation through congress. are you also concerned here about what a trump administration might mean for voting rights? >> deeply. as soon as the federal courts rule that north carolina, for instance, had engaged in the worse voter suppression since the voting rights act and surgical racism, trump came to town. and questioned the courts' ruling and continued to tell his lie about fraud, and he continues to do that. we are in the worst position protection wise than we've been since '65. we're almost back to the 1800s. right now section five of the voting rights act is not
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enforced. the congress sat on fixes that for over three years. they refused to do their duty under the 15th amendment. it means the state legislatures can pass rules that don't have to be precleared and you can only sue after the damage has been done. and now we're talking about appointing somebody like jeff sessions who has gotten a zero on the naacp report card for years, and also somebody who tried to sue people and criminalize people who were registering people to vote. we're in a very dangerous time when it comes to the protection of the right to vote, and we're going to have to be vigilant. >> what are you doing to fight voter suppression? >> the law is still the law. section two is still in place. that means we're going to have to gear up with larwyers even i we have to sue after the fact. we're going to have to have mass
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immobilization and sometimes civil disobedience to drive home how serious they are. you can fundamentally change the outsome of elections. we're going to have to build bridges with progressive whites and latinos and stay focussed. and next year when there's a change in the legislature. because of the new districts, we'll have to get out the vote in an off year election and have an impact in who gets into office. >> we were discussing in the last segment, mcrory recusing to recede and it went from zero to 100. what are your thoughts on this governor's race? maybe i can get it from you, the refusal to concede. >> let's acknowledge it's a close election. i can understand that. it's a close election, and if you're under 10,000 votes after the canvassing, you have the right for a recount. now we're over 10,000 votes and
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you don't have that right. just don't file bogus complaints. but once things are done legally and right, you need to concede. if he wanted to be governor, he should be to focussed on public education and health care expapgs and raising the minimum page. 0 80% of north carolina people want that to happen. now he's no longer going to be the governor. what we're watching is he will not call a special session and they will suspend the rules and try to add two seats to the supreme court as a way of trickery to change that dynamic. we're watching that closely. >> thank you william basher. when we come back, donald trump delivers on his promise at carrier. could another big company be his next deal?
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>> president-elect heading to indianapolis to formally announce the carrier deal. let's discuss now.
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kayleigh mcenany, and bakari sellers. kayleigh, smug to be here. >> smug to be here, always. >> inside joke. >> yes. >> you have to watch snl. donald trump has delivered. does he deserve credit? >> i think you have to give him some credit. i think you would be somewhat rude and dismissive of the 850 families that now get to keep their jobs here in the united states. those people who have bills to pay. you have to recognize that. and you know, we can get down in the weeds and look at this from a microlevel and look at the fact that but for mike pence being the governor of indiana it doesn't happen. you can look at corporate welfare. it lacked any transparency, but i want to look at it from the macro level so we understand how big this job of president is.
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donald trump literally has to create 5,000 jobs a day for 30 days to equal the number of jobs created by barack obama last month. donald trump literally has to create 1,000 jobs a week for the next 30 years to total the amount of jobs that barack obama saved during the auto bailout. while we're champions that, keep our families in our harts and prayers. this is a drop in the bucket. donald trump needs to create policies. >> i want to go to kayleigh. critics are saying it sets a bad preceden precedent. other companies are going to be looking to leave the country and this sets a bad precedent. do you agree? >> i don't think so. one of the reporters offers there were incentives offered previously. they were still going to send the 2,000 jobs to mexico. we don't know what went into the negotiations. i think is difference is there's
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a president that's going to have a 15% maximum corporate tax rate. it's going to help businesses and encourage them to keep jobs here, not send them abroad, b but bakari is right. i think donald trump is the person to do it. it's a big task, and i think you'll be surprised bakari. i think he'll do a good job. >> if i may just briefly, i think we know on a larger scale why this company not just the tax incentives. their parent company gets $5.6 billion just from federal contracts and now because the president of the united states has targeted carrier, they're at risk at losing some of the federal carriers. we know why they did what they did. >> you brought up a point i tried to mention earlier. mike pence is the governor and this probably has -- is a mike pence deal rather than a donald trump deal. but donald trump's name is at the top of the ticket. carrier released a statement.
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the agreement in no way diminishes our belief in the benefits of free parade and the forces of global organization will require competitiveness in the u.s. and american workers moving forward. doesn't that seem to be a stance at odds with trump? >> i think they can read the temperature in the room and didn't want to be the first company to poke the bear after donald trump was elected. they not only were a company planning on shipping the jobs to mexico. they were an issue in the campaign. he brought them up repeatedly. we had the guy who was the union president of the local chapter that represented all those workers that were going to be laid off on the radio station out here in los angeles, and these guys were furious. i think the last thing they wanted to do was to end up on donald trump's list right as he was heading into the white house and seeing his popularity spike. >> you're not calling donald trump a bear, are you?
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>> it's more than that, though. you really have to pay attention to the point baa rkari made. >> carrier wasn't the only company that donald trump targeted during his campaign. he also spoke about the parent company of oreos. listen to this. >> i don't like oreos anymore. >> they're closing their big plant in chicago and moving it to mexico. >> i'm not eating oreos anymore. you know that, but neither is chris. you're not eating oreos anymore. no more oreos for either of us. >> so hillary, the chicago plant isn't closing but it did lose about half of the job to the new plant in mexico. so could oreos be trump's next deal? what's your response? >> and you know when trump went after ford when they were creating new jobs in mexico. we have a global competitiveness
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problem with an uneven tax structure and uneven trade policy. country don't know what to expect and unfair labor practices in many countries around the world. that is not going to be a sort of bully pulpit by bully pulpit solution. i think tax reform will help the situation, but in the case of united technologies, they jumped at the chance to cut a deal with this new president. we have no idea what he's promised. that's my problem with this. i agree with bakari that it's great they don't have to worry about their jobs. there are several hundred workers down the road that are still threatened, but we don't know if he promised defense contracts or promised other things going forward. so i think he owes it to the american people to say what it was that made this deal viable, and if united technologies just
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didn't want to piss off somebody who was going to control their defense contracts, you can't blame them for that. but every company in the country that has jobs here is not going to be in that same situation. so really thoughtful policy is the only thing that's going to fix it. >> maybe he'll answer that tomorrow when he gives an announcement on this. stick around. we'll be right back. (vo) it's the holidays at verizon, and the best deals are on the best network. (both) yes! (vo) with no surprise overages, you can use your data worry free and even carry over the data you don't use. and right now get four lines and 20 gigs for only $40 per line. and, just for the holidays, buy the new pixel phone by google and get $400 back. i love you in that, no, i love you in that. no, i love yin that! (vo) get the best deals and the best network, only on verizon.
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president-elect announcing more cabinet picks today. back with me now a panel. i'm having a little sneezing fit. kayleigh got to witness it here in the studio. i hope it doesn't happen on air. john, let's talk about transition news. trump named steve mnuchin to lead the treasury department. what message does this send to the blue collar workers? >> he ran ans aspirational campaign. i'm a rich guy and you should be rich too. i'll bring in sharks on wall street and they'll be cutting deals on behalf of the american
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people. he was out there laughing, but it's everyone -- >> it's everyone except for john and kayleigh. why are you laughing, bakari? >> that spin, i mean, on my next campaign i'm hiring john philips. he spun the hell out of that to say the least. but i think what we see, i mean, i think east adding for gators to the swamp. to say donald trump campaigned on his friends at goldman sachs, that's not what he did. he ran on draining the swamp. rich people don't like him is what he said on the campaign. it's amazing. i think edward snowden had a tweet that said it would be donald trump versus goldman sachs. it looks like he is goldman sac sachs. >> i don't know about that. >> i think it's true, but there's something more specific. over the last several years wall
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street screwed the little guy in 2008, and we saw that hundreds of thousands of homes fore closed upon. we had a major crash in the financial markets, and thousands and thousands of people lost their jobs. and no banker went to jail and people were mipissed off about that. and donald trump campaigned on that. and the democrats have done nothing to protect you. what does he do? he puts in a secretary of treasury, the guy who made money buying out one of those banks at bargain basement prices, fore closed on more people and resold it for a profit. so the same people trump said screwed the little guy specifically on the campaign he's now put in. >> i think you're engaging in generalities. not everyone on wall street screwed over the little guy. there were some but not everyone. and just because goldman sachs
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is on your resume, it doesn't disqualify you from being on the cabinet. >> that's not what i'm saying. >> he's choosing the most capable person for the job. and what makes someone capable is someone who believes in donald trump's vision and is going to implement his vision of lower taxes for everyone, and steve munuchin will do that. >> before the election, this seems like opposite day. wasn't that the argument for -- flipped before the election? no. >> come on, just be honest. admit he attacked hillary clinton for her goldman sachs ties the entire campaign. admit that's what he did. if he wants to choose them now, come up with a reason why and say it's because i believe in him going forward, but don't revise history and say he didn't say everything he said during
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the campaign. >> i never said -- >> and this is opposite. >> i never said he didn't say anything he said. he went after hillary for having ties to big money and revolving access of clinton foundation access to big government. because one person worked at goldman sachs, that you should throw them out because they worked at one of the most prestigious banks in the world. >> this is not about goldman sachs. >> he profited at that bank at the expense of taxpayers. that's the problem. >> exactly. the irony is this is not about goldman sachs, per se. this is not about wall street. in fact, you know, it's not disqualifying to be wealthy and be a cabinet member. it's not. this is about the hypocrisy that is donald trump. this is about the con that he pulled on working class americans. this is about the fact that he ran as a populist candidate who said i don't have rich friends and said he was going to tackle and reign in wall street because
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wall street was out of control. he talked about the little guy and talked about people being in the streets in witpitch forks. >> is that like taking him -- can you think donald trump doesn't have rich friends? i know a number of his rich friends. >> he didn't try to hide his wealth. to say he pulled a con on the working class, he gave 1,000 jobs back to people in the working class. >> he didn't give 1,000 jobs. >> he kept 1,000 jobs here for the working class. >> 800 jobs. >> i think that's really reaching. >> this is apples and oranges. we are not talking about what they might do, because, look, maybe they'll do great things. but this is saying these folks have a history that is exactly the history that donald trump attacked for the last year 1/2. >> and a correction, i was wrong. it is 1,000 jobs?
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. >> i remember trump as being the guy that had peter teal speak at the convention. he spent more time bragging about his wealth than any rapper i'm aware of. this is a guy who did not try to hide that aspect of his life. we knew he was bringing in the sharks. he was bringing in people to go in and try to hammer as many deals as possible. >> john, to the point of bakari and hilary rosen, didn't he sort of rail against wall street? let's be honest. didn't he do that, and hillary clinton should release his transscripts. she has more ties to wall street and big money than any other candidate. >> and they're screwed you and i'll protect you. >> and now he's doing this and announced wilbur ross. there's a list of millionaires and billionaires he's adding to his cabinet. shouldn't we be honest about
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that? >> i remember him saying we have people that negotiate bad deals an he's going to come in and hire the best. he's going to bring in the captains of industry. he's going to bring people in that's going to -- that are going to use those skills to negotiate on behalf of the american people. >> that part is true, but it doesn't negate the other part. >> no. that was certainly part of it. she did have a cozy relationshi with wall street, but he ran as an outsider. a lot of these people are coming from the private sector. >> what if you give speeches or appoint someone who is from wall street and they work alongside of you? isn't that a cozier relationship than going in and giving a speech? >> part of the reason that he won is because he ran as an outsider, and the public is looking for someone -- >> you are good, john. >> outsider? >> let's stipulate every single night on this show that the
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donald trump coupe, who is president-elect, is a different guy than the donald trump who was running for president, and then maybe the guy who was the donald trump president will be different than this guy. >> let's give kayleigh the last word. 15 seconds. >> let's stipulate the donald trump who ran on behalf of working class is the donald trump president-elect who has already brought back 1,000 jobs for those very people. >> you guys are a great group, and i love to have you. and kayleigh, smug to be with you. >> smug to be with you. >> we'll see you back here tomorrow. . .
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a victory lap for donald trump. he is heading to the plant where he just saved about 1,000 jobs. this morning, questions about the deal and incentives. a police officer killed in washington state. we have the very latest on the standoff. a desperate search for the missing in tennessee. more wildfire damage and deaths as thousands wait to learn if their homes are gone. good morning. welcome to "early start." i'm will ripley in for john berman. great to see you. >> i'm so excited. i'm christine romans. it is thursday, decem

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