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daughter to do it and then i had to become a scout leader like i had to be a mom who was volunteering to do it, and that was a deal breaker for me because i don't have time. >> tillerson wasn't just the head of scouting. he was part of the force to open up scouting to gay scout leaders and scouts -- >> good to know. >> unknown fact. >> time for newsroom with carol costello where you will learn more tidbits. >> -- for setting fires. >> i was kicked out of the brownies, but not for setting fires. >> why were you kicked out? >> i said a bad word. i was mad. >> uh-oh. >> i was 9. >> are my gosh -- >> "newsroom" starts now. good morning. i'm carol costello. the slaughter of civilians, women and children goes on in aleppo, syria, despite calls for
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a cease-fire a cease-fire reached and quickly discarded. the syrian army upon orders from strongman bashar al assad continues to drop bombs on its own people. evacuations were supposed to be part of the now defunct cease-fire agreement. that did not happen. here's how one resident describes it. listen for the shelling in the background. >> we're covering all angles of this story. our chief international correspondent christiane amanpour is in london. i'd like to start with senior
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international correspondent frederik pleitgen who just got back from syria. take it away, fred. >> hi, kierl. yeah, you're right. it's not just fighting that's broken out again in aleppo it's very heavy fighting that has broken out. the latest that we're getting is that some activists are saying as many as 100 artillery shells have fallen on that very small enclave that the rebels still hold in that town. the government is saying that six people have also been killed on the government side by shelling that's been going on the other way. but we're also hearing that the government is using air strikes, as well, of course the civilians, once again, the ones who are suffering under all of this. and keep in mind it was supposed to be an agreement that would see the evacuation of those civilians and those fighters in place right now but that agreement seems to have broken down. here's what happened. after years of holding out against syrian government forces, and months trying to fight off a massive final assault, the last remaining rebels and civilians are set to leave aleppo.
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allegedly guaranteed safe passage in return for full government control of this ancient city. the past weeks have been among the most brutal in the five-year civil war. as pro-assad forces kept taking chunks of territory away from the opposition, tense of thousands of civilians fled. a mass exodus under fire that i witnessed first hand. there is a massive, almost avalanche of people trying to make it to safety. as you can see, there are people who are carrying their children but a lot of children left to make the trek themselves. so difficult for many of them. of course, they've been under siege for such a long time. aleppo is among the oldest cities in the world. syria's cultural center and was the country's economic powerhouse. a melting pot of cultures with a pre-war population of more than 2 million people. the thriving cosmopolitan city was a source of pride for syria. it was also one of the first
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places where the rebels managed to hold any territory in the face of a government crackdown. after years of fighting, what is left in many places is complete destruction. whole neighborhoods flattened, including most of the ancient old city. the rebels retreat from aleppo won't end syria's civil war. opposition fighters still hold large parts of the country and isis is advancing in others. but the opposition's defeat would mark a major victory for syrian president bashar al assad and their backers cementing their grip of what is left on this war-torn nation. and it was the russians and turks instrumental in bringing this cease-fire together and they say they're trying to work to try to re-establish it. to try to make sure that the weapons are silenced once again. honestly with every second goes by, with every air strike that happens was less likely and once again civilians caught suffering
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under the heavy fighting. >> fred pleitgen, thank you very much. christiane, syria is so far away from many americans. they look at these pictures and feel sorry about it. you tell us in your words why americans should care about what happens in syria? >> well, carol, obviously on the humanitarian level it's something that people all over the world should care about. because of what the other countries are not doing to stop this. so it is a very, very dark stain on the conscience of the international community. i think also in absolute practicality not only do have a country destroyed in a very vital part of the middle east you have a vast area of terrorism that can rear its head
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again and of course never get an endless torrent of refugees who are forced out of their own country that can no longer help them and forced into europe. and indeed american politics on its head in terms of the fear of refugees, the hatred of all these people coming in, and given rise to a lot of the populist political sentiment that we have been seeing over the last year. so for all those reasons, it's massively important. >> i don't know how many civilians have died in syria. tens of thousands, and that includes women and children. i know you recently visited a hospital. are there working hospitals in syria in this part of syria anymore? >> well, carol, to be honest with you, i visited by skype, it's incredibly difficult as you know for any western journalists to get behind the lines where the rebels are. fred was incredibly fortunate to do his great work over the last week showing the perspective from the assad side as those
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forces were going in to capture that part of besieged opposition-held eastern aleppo. so in order to get behind those lines, we've had to talk to people by skype. and there were very few actual hospitals, in fact. there were what people called sort of makeshift medical centers that they set up in basements, you know, they had barely any electricity. barely any running water. also the jerry-rigged operations to try to help the wounded. even those have gone by the by now that the push has gone almost to the very last corner of opposition-held eastern aleppo. but just play you one doctor who was one of the emergency center directors, who we reached yesterday, and he has heard firsthand, he said, about these extra judiciary summary killings of civilians. listen to what he told us just last night. >> the west side of aleppo also, which are taking control over --
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execution have been committed, yesterday about 20 person in the morning and another 17 in the evening, and there was women and children among them. >> so these are incredibly dire and brutal eyewitness accounts. of course the united nations has also been talking about this kind of thing. but they haven't actually been able to have an independent investigation, an independent verification. they're relying on sources. but this is the kind of carnage that we saw in bosnia more than 20 years ago. you remember the destruction and the executions in srebrenica that led to war crimes trials and convictions. so this is incredibly serious what is happening right now. and obviously the actors on the ground are responsible. russia, iran, and the others and the militias there. but the west is also responsible for failing to do anything to try to end this war over the
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last 5 1/2 years. and that's really been a problem. because the diplomacy has not worked. and there has been no serious attempt to change it by military means, whereas obviously as you know the russians have put their massive military might behind the assad regime. >> all right, christiane amanpour reporting for us this morning. thank you. the donald trump era taking shape in washington and apparently in full bloom in wisconsin. that's the latest stop on his thank you tour and the setting for a show of unity with the state's native son house speaker paul ryan but the wisconsin crowd apparently not foregetting ryan's reluctance to embrace his party's nominee. listen to their reaction as the president-elect extends an olive branch. >> speaker paul ryan, i've really come to -- oh, no, i come to appreciate him. speaker paul ryan. where is he?
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he has been terrific. you know honestly, he's like a fine wine. every day goes by i get to appreciate his genius more and more. now if he ever goes against me, i'm not going to say that, okay? >> cnn's sunlen serfaty live in washington for more. good morning. >> good morning to you, carol. that campaign-style rally last night with president-elect donald trump and speaker ryan also notable because we saw donald trump really use this platform to push for his secretary of state nominee rex tillerson, who, of course, has really caused an uproar on capitol hill among many democrats but notably among many prominent republicans, as well. we saw donald trump really go out of his way last night to defend his pick, without mentioning his specific ties to russia, which, of course, is the source of so much of the contention on capitol hill. here's more of what donald trump said last night in wisconsin.
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>> rex will be a fierce advocate for america's interests around the world. and has the insights and talents necessary to help reverse years of foreign policy blunders, and disasters. very excited about rex. and you know, rex is friendly with many of the leaders in the world that we don't get along with. and some people don't like that. they don't want him to be friendly. >> now, today at trump tower, the president-elect will be convening an interesting meeting, a summit of sorts with some of the top executives from the tech world at trump tower. we're talking about people like tim cook, sheryl sandberg, elon musk and jeff bezos. many of whom notably were very vocal against donald trump and his campaign over the last year and a half. now one name you will not see on this list is twitter and the twitter ceo were not invited to that meeting today. one thing also in the mix today,
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carol, interesting potentially today is we now know that donald trump has been receiving these briefings from his incoming national security adviser michael flynn. as you may remember that has been reported that on average, trump himself has only receiving one pdb, these presidential daily intelligence briefings. now we know according to transition officials that michael flynn, his national security adviser, is getting these briefings himself daily, and he's briefing the president-elect. three times a week. carol? >> so he's sort of the middle man between the intelligence officers and donald trump? the twitter thing caught my ear. so why, why wasn't the ceo of twitter invited to this tech meeting? >> yeah, this is really interesting. i think it is notable, and i think it's certainly caught everyone's eye the fact that jack dorsey and anyone from twitter left off the invitee list. notable because donald trump's affinity for twitter, how much he relied on it during the campaign and relied on it during the transition, and potentially
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during his presidency, as well. left off the list, we know that the meeting today is to talk about jobs and certainly a grab bag of other topics but no response as to why they're not there. >> interesting. i'm sure you'll delve into it later today. sunlen serfaty, thanks so much. still to come in the "newsroom," donald trump promises to drain the swamp. our next best wants to lead the bucket brigade and he said much of it can be done with the stroke of a pen. he will explain. plus the department of energy refusing to give team trump the flames of climate change employees. later this hour we'll talk to the union president representing those fearful workers. there is no typical day.
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cheers for donald trump in
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wisconsin and boos for native son house speaker paul ryan. hundreds showed up for a trump victory rally near milwaukee including paul ryan who was no fan of donald trump during the election. how times have changed. >> it was before i had my driver's license the last time wisconsin went republican. this is amazing. i want to thank donald trump. i want to thank mike pence. for helping wisconsin, michigan, pennsylvania, the midwest finally see the light of day and put a republican back in the white house. >> joining me now to talk about that and more, north carolina congressman mark meadow, also a member of the freedom caucus and a republican -- or he's chairman of the freedom caucus. welcome, sir. >> thank you. it's good to be with you, carol. >> nice to have you here. you once considered replacing paul ryan as speaker because he did not support trump. are you confident now that he
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will work in concert with the president-elect? >> well you know i've had a number of conversations with the speaker and i can tell you that we're unified here in washington, d.c. about draining the swamp that you were talking about. making sure that washington, d.c. works on behalf of the american people. so i'm very confident we're going to be looking for a unified republican majority on january 3rd. and really get down to business on day one and so yeah a lot of things were said in the past. i think you can see from last night it's really all about making sure that we hit the road, and do the hard work on day one. >> hit the ground running. i know you've put together a landing book for trump. what exactly is that? >> well you know what we believe is as we've got a number of issues that their transition seem is looking at that goes across a number of different agencies, you know, we've actually worked real hard to come up with some 21-page report
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to give to the trump transition team that actually will look at rules and regulations. things that can make our first 100 days the most productive. it's important that we let him know what was happening here on capitol hill. just as much as what was happening in the executive branch. >> also is it in that book? because you say there are 200 regulations that mr. trump can eliminate without congressional approval. is that part of that book? >> it is. we've got 21 pages. right now it's up to 232 recommendations in terms of rules and regulations. many of them would save tens of billions of dallas just with the stroke of a pen taking some of the overreach that we've seen in the executive branch allowing our businesses to get back to work. so the list continues to grow. but we felt like it was important to put together a real working document where they can actually look at that, make
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decisions, it's truly an executive branch decision -- >> well let me ask you this. these 200 regulations you say mr. trump can eliminate them without congressional approval with the stroke of a pen he can get rid of them. but isn't that what you criticized barack obama for doing? >> well, i'm glad you brought that up, carol. because one of the interesting things is there's two different rules. one is a legislative role. the other is an executive branch role. and we're not suggesting the overreach, because that would be hypocrisy in the first degree. what we're really looking at is the overreach that we've seen in the last eight years actually rolling that back. these are some regulations that really can have an administrative fix that don't have a legislative fix in mind. to give you one ridiculous example. the fda we're sitting here working with epipens and everything else that have real health concerns and yet we've got regulations on the size of breath mints. those kind of things just bog down the regulatory process, so
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most of the recommendations are much more egregious than that. the fiduciary rules -- >> the reason i'm asking, and i'm sure there are some ridiculous regulations on the book. i'm not arguing with you there. but i'm also sure there are some regulations in your landing book that democrats might not be all into, right? >> oh, without a doubt. >> so again isn't it kind of hypocritical to say donald trump just gets rid of them without congressional approval because aren't republicans doing the same thing as they accuse democrats of doing when president obama was in the -- was in the white house? >> well, i can tell you from an article and a constitutional standpoint you'll find no one that is going to be more vigorous in making sure that we rebalance that power on a legislative and executive branch. what we've tried to do is focus purely on those things that have an executive priority that don't have a legislative role. anything that actually should require congress to act, we left off of this 21-page report so i think that you'll find that even as you go through with a fine
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tooth comb, it is one that actually balances that power in the appropriate manner. but it's a valid point. >> well, and another -- and another just question for you. >> sure. >> lawmakers are a check on the president of the united states. so wouldn't you want lawmakers to be involved in this? like, wouldn't you want that? isn't that helpful for our country? >> well, i can tell you that we've had a number of us on the house freedom caucus who have been going through these rules and regulations. i'll give you a prime example. in 2013 there were 72 bills that passed the house, the senate, and were signed into law. that same year there were over 3500 regulatory laws that were put into effect. so if you think that you can -- you can act on a congressional level as quickly as the executive branch, you know, history shows us that that's not the case -- >> yeah, but that's not -- to take a check and balance out of the system, is it? >> well, it's not taking a check
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and balance out of the -- >> more expedient with the president to do it with the stroke of a pen instead of lawmakers sitting down doing the work. >> well, we're doing the work. and, and i think you're missing one critical point. and that is, is that anything that is legislative in its jurisdiction, we're going to fight vigorously to make sure that we keep that here. the other is, it's rules and regulations that are the purview of the executive branch. you know, the executive branch has had the ability to write rules and regulations going back all the way to george washington. the supreme court has upheld that. and so as we look at that. it's helping identify some of those that are uniquely theirs, and the rest is keeping those legislative priorities where they should be in the senate and the house. >> all right. congressman mark meadows thanks for joining me this morning. still to come in the "newsroom" don't say happy holidays to donald trump. he's bringing back merry christmas. why he's railing against political correctness. again.
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this morning, alan thicke has died. he died yesterday at the age of 69. he collapsed at an ice rink in burbank, california. thicke is best remembered for playing dr. jason seaver on the '80s hit series "growing pains." >> ben, what are you doing? >> watching carol flirt with some guy and he's not bobby. >> that's none of your business -- what guy? >> thicke's career in hollywood spanned five decades. but here's something you might not have known.
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he's canadian born. he'd also a songwriter. he created the theme song for many popular sitcoms. listen. ♪ ♪ you take the good you take the bad ♪ ♪ you take 'em both and there you have ♪ ♪ the facts of life the facts of life ♪ >> i have children of the '80s sitting with me. we're all singing along. in addition to "the facts of life" thicke also wrote the opening theme for "different strokes" and "wheel of fortune." he is survived by his wife and three sons including the singer robin thicke. and good morning, i'm carol costello. thank you so much for joining me. if you have a credit card or a savings account or you're getting ready to buy a car or a home you will want to pay attention to me now. the federal reserve expected to raise its key interest rates today. millions of americans could be impacted. christine romans is looking at the winners and losers, and the opening bell this morning.
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>> that's right. >> 20,000 is in sight for the dow jones industrial average. the dow has gone from 19,000 to 20,000. it's just remarkable. the big story today, carol, the federal reserve. set to raise rates for the first time in a year and only the second time since 2006. that means you will be paying more to borrow money for a mortgage. to buy a house. for car loans. on credit cards. if you have debt that's sitting on credit cards, those interest rates are likely to rise. who will -- let's talk about what that looks like. if you have a mortgage of $250,000 mortgage this is -- this is how you're going to feel the higher interest rates. a new loan $250,000 at 4.2%, you'll be paying $1223. at 4.5%, $1267 that's adding some significant dollars on the life of the loan. raising the cost of borrowing. this is one of those business headlines that matters to everyone who is basically at work in the economy. it's good news for savers. for a long time we've been
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saying that savers do not benefit from the ultralow interest rates. limited recovery of the economy after the recession. now, the economy is strong again. you got jobs growing. you've got all these since of life in the economy. and you've got the compromise of pro-growth policies from president-elect donald trump. the fed this afternoon we'll know at 2:00 for sure, expect to raise interest rates. the opening bell there. very close to 20,000. i expect you will have markets on tenterhooks today awaiting fed chief janet yellen says about the future path of interest rates. you could see some caution until we get the rate hike. >> can you guess how much she's going to raise it? >> i'm going to guess half a point. i'm going to say they're in a very low range and they're going to nudge up that range a quarter of a point. i would say a quarter of a point is what they end up doing there. the really interesting thing for me does janet yellen signal more rate hikes ahead. here's the big political story for 2017 i'm going to foreshadow. donald trump criticized janet yellen for keeping interest rates low.
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he said to protect barack obama's legacy. president barack obama's legacy. now the economy is showing enough signs of life the fed can start raising interest rates. so donald trump will be ushering pro-growth policies that will heat up the economy. janet yellen and the fed, their job is to make sure the economy doesn't overheat. they'll be raising interest rates -- >> because if it overheats that's inflation, right? >> so there's this balance that they'll be trying to -- trying to get here. i mean janet yellen and the fed have been begging for almost years now for washington to do something. do some tax reform. do some pro-growth spending, right. now maybe you're going to get that. and so the fed can start raising interest rates. >> all right christine romans. many thanks. over the last year and a half donald trump has written his own political playbook and his cabinet picks are no different as trump announces more of his choices to help him lead the country there is a familiar theme emerging. if confirmed, four of the top departments will be run solely by white men for the first time in 27 years. of his 18 picks so far, not
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including mike pence and white house staff, 14 are white. of those 12 are men, three are women of color, no one is latino. and at trump's rally in wisconsin mr. trump made it very clear his supporters have won the culture war by voting him into office. >> so when i started 18 months ago, i told my first crowd, in wisconsin, that we're going to come back here some day and we are going to say, merry christmas again. merry christmas. so merry christmas. and it's because of you that we, all of us, were just honored with the "time" magazine person of the year. see in the old days it was called the man of the year. right? would you rather see person of the year? man of the year.
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these guys are so politically correct. >> all right. so let's talk about that and more. errol lewis is here political anchor for spectrum news. david swerdlick from "the washington post" and vicky mckenna the host of up front on wbia in wisconsin. welcome to all of you. >> good morning. >> good morning. so, vicky, you first, because you were at last night's rally. how were trump's comments received? well, they were received very well. very enthusiastic crowd at the rally last night. look, he comes off -- he comes off gregarious, light, warm, welcoming, and he came to wisconsin to say thank you for a job well done to an awful lot of val tears who put in countless hours and so yes, i think it was very much appreciated. what he did in wisconsin last night. but more than that, it was -- it was, you know, reminding
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everyone in that room that we made history in wisconsin, again, because donald trump is the first republican who has been elected from the state of wisconsin as president since 1984. so we have an awful lot of historical mile stones we've managed to collect here since 2010 in our state. >> well vicki, also paul ryan wisconsin native son he was booed by the crowd. >> he was booed by the crowd, but this is -- wisconsin is a little bit complicated. wisconsin has one foot in the tea party and one foot in the establishment. and paul ryan, depending on who you are talking with, is on the wrong side of one of those things. and so paul ryan is a complicated figure in wisconsin. by and large paul ryan is quite popular in wisconsin, as evidenced by his overwhelming victory in the congressional race. but i think paul ryan also understands that he has a role to play, and this role is 0 occasionally to take a shot here or there from people who are yub set with the establish
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republican sort of same-old routine, i think he's willing to do that. i think he's actually happy to do that. >> all right. another interesting point errol you heard what donald trump was saying about saying merry christmas. he doesn't like person of the year, it should be man of the year. it seems he has a focus on each side of the culture wars as well because yesterday at trump tower, trump met with quite an array of people. part of this diversity council included football legends jim brown and ray lewis, he met with kanye west who tweeted he wanted to talk to trump about what he called multicultural issues including bullying and chicago violence. ray lewis the football great the baltimore ravens, trump's economic plans for inner cities. listen. >> what we believe with the trump administration is if we can combine these two powers of coming to the, forget black or white. black or white is irrelevant. the bottom line is creating economic development in these urban neighborhoods to change the whole scheme of what our kids see.
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>> so errol, is donald trump really saying there's room for -- for everyone, including those who are not offended by saying merry christmas, or -- >> in my opinion i would say no. i don't know that donald trump at age 70 understands how deeply insulting it is to talk with ex-football players and entertainers about things like urban policy. when there are hundreds, if not thousands of trained, competent, professionals who happen to be african-american who would love to contribute and help make the country great again. he simply doesn't see it. and it goes all the way back to his campaign. when he took a reality show star, omarosa and made her the person in charge of his outreach to black communities which is why far more than eight out of ten black voters did not vote for donald trump. this is not the way back. it's deeply insulting. i don't know that he cares or even recognizes it and it goes all the way through his cabinet picks. like taking somebody who has never served in any government,
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not even the city council level, who's never done anything with urban development and takes dr. ben carson, who is a very nice man and put him in charge of a $50 billion budget with 8,000 employees and responsibility for some really, really important issues. where this all ends up, i'm not sure. but this is not the way for donald trump, i think, to do what he said he's going to do, which is get 90% of the black vote when he runs for re-election. >> david was it lip service in new york and then sincerity in wisconsin? >> well, let me echo what errol just said right. instead of meeting with an array of people who would provide a different view on what communities of color are looking for, instead of meeting with ray mckesson, instead of meeting with the congressional black caucus, instead of meeting with cornell brooks from the naacp, trump's outreach to washed up ball players and entertainers is really not the way to go if he really wants to build a bridge to african-americans and people of color. that doesn't mean he can't change it. he's still in his transition.
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he even taken office yet so maybe he'll move toward that as he goes on. i don't see that as a good start and i would just like to go on record as saying that the war on christmas, the bill owe really war on christmass aalways been a phony issue and continues to be a phony issue. >> vicki i'm dying to get your reaction. >> yeah, i mean, honestly, we have a zip code in the city of milwaukee, 53206, and it has been struggling with all of the diverse attention from all of the layers of the various people who claim that the only thing that matters is the color of somebody's skin in a cabinet position, and unless that zip code in the city of milwaukee, dying on the vine, with all due respect, deray mckesson has never come into the city of milwaukee and said anything about a white south neighborhood about urban poverty going on for the past 20 years that's been sucking the life blood out of the city of milwaukee, said nothing about a lack of economic development. with all due respect, what do cabinet positions have to do with solving the urban problems
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in cities like milwaukee, wisconsin, or racine, wisz kansas. they have nothing to do with it. black lives matter have stirred things up, said don't trust the police, allowed crime to explode, allowed the murder rate to explode. and essentially condemn the city of milwaukee to machine politicians keeping people miserable and fearful for their lives -- >> wait a minute, wait a minute -- >> can i -- >> errol is dying -- >> vicki you must know that year after year milwaukee comes up as the most racially segregated city in the country. you probably -- >> -- democrats -- >> you probably should know, if you don't know, that the department of housing and urban development has very serious responsibility for dealing with patterns of housing segregation. it has -- please don't interrupt me. i didn't interrupt you. >> please let errol talk. >> vicki you're not going to talk over me. in this case we have an administration that has tried to do something about it.
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we have an incoming secretary that maybe you have a lot of confidence in, but if you think a retired neurosurgeon is going to address the long-standing racial segregation of milwaukee, well, good luck to you. i happen to disagree. >> okay, david? let's wait -- i want -- >> vicki -- >> wait, wait. >> two quick points. with regard to deray mckesson i just want to clarify, vicki, on a host of issues i don't agree with deray mckesson but it's undeniable that he has his finger on the pulse of what many younger people of color are thinking and feeling right now. wait. second point, is that i happen to degree with vicki that diversity in the cabinet is not as important as what those cabinet members do. the trump administration has signaled that they want to get rid of the affordable care act. that's something that is favored by 75% of african-americans. they've signaled that they want to roll back some of president obama's initiatives on the dreamers. the majority of voters of color favor allowing the dreamers to
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stay in this country legally. so those are the things that i would agree with are more important than whether white men or someone else are in those top cabinet positions. >> and, vicki, couldn't you argue, vicki, that donald trump is meeting with diverse people who probably won't push back too hard against him? >> well, let me just first say something about, everybody seems to be claiming to know anything about what's going on in my state. i happen to live in this state. i happen to know what is going on in this state -- >> no one claimed to know what was going on -- >> -- something to say about what is going on in the city of milwaukee or the city of racine or some of the other urban neighborhoods throughout the city and the state of wisconsin. i'll tell you who does get it and was routinely dismissed on his ideas of what to do to solve the problems, the decay of the family, the decline of schools, and that is sheriff david clark who i might point out kicked off last night's rally in the state of wit consequence, received the
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most enthusiastic cheers and embrace, and in fact could easily have been running himself in statewide positions in our state, or even as, you know, number two on the ticket with donald trump. he's a black man, he is a conservative black man. he consistently gets elected in blue milwaukee. he consistently gets embraced by white people, black people, hispanic people, jewish people, gay, people, women and men, and so you know, you want to actually talk about real diversity, then start talking about real diversity of solutions for problems that have been growing for the last 50 years in this country. there are huge and damaging and painful in my state. >> all right. i'm going to have to leave it there. but certainly an interesting conversation. thanks so much, errol lewis, david swerdlick, vicki mckenna. i'll be right back. ♪ ♪ ♪
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he wanted to eliminate. now if confirmed by the senate he's going to lead it. president-elect trump officially tapped former texas governor rick perry for energy secretary. this as a brewing battle shakes out over climate change. energy officials now refusing to comply with a request by the trump team to name energy department employees who have attended workshops on climate change issues. in case you forgot where trump stands when it comes to climate change. here's what he said in the past. first he said, the concept of global warming was created by and for the chinese in order to make the u.s. manufacturing noncompetitive. and then he said, is our country still sending money -- is our country still spending money on the global warming hoax? he has since said he is open-minded on the issue. so, kind of cloudy where donald trump stands on climate change. with me now is tony rear condition the national president of the national treasury employees union.
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he represents the union for the workers at the energy department, washington, d.c. headquarters. welcome, sir. >> thank you, carol. i'm honored to be with you. >> thank you for being with me this morning. i do appreciate it. so, specifically we're talking about civil servants who work at the energy department, who are not appointed by anyone who are just federal employees who serve like any other worker, they just happen to work at a federal agency. >> that's correct. >> and -- and so what did this trump team send to the department of energy that has employees worried so much? >> there was a questionnaire with my recollection is 74 questions on it. and some of the questions have concerned employees. my members. and you know, carol, primarily what they're concerned about is they're concerned, you know, why these questions were asked. and they're concerned about
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their future employment. they're concerned about the release of this information from the perspective of the privacy of their personal information, and they're also concerned about what this means for the integrity of the work that they do going forward. you know, these really hard-working, outstanding federal employees, they're scientists, they're engineers, they're economists, they do work that is incredibly important our country, and it is important that they are able to pursue that work with independence, and with integrity. and to pursue that work outside of the political process. >> so, so do they fear retribution once donald trump becomes president? >> well, you know, i -- they certainly have not indicated that this is in any way related to the president-elect. but what they are concerned
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about is, you know, what impact this could have an their -- on their future employment. they are concerned about their ability to pursue the science. their ability to do it with integrity. their ability to do it with independence. these are very important issues for them. >> is this unusual? because, you've been around washington a long time, so, you've seen presidents come and go. is this unusual? >> i think it is unusual, yes. >> so no other transition team has asked for such information or sent a 74-question questionnaire to employees at any federal department? >> well, i certainly can't say with certainly that nothing like this has ever occurred before. but in the nearly 27 years that i've been at the national treasury employees union, i'm not familiar with it having occurred previously. >> do you know
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>> you know, you played a clip at the outset that i think' suggested that he is open-minded about where he goes from here, and you know, i'm going to be personally reaching out to the administration in hopes that i can educate them about the really outstanding work that these hard-working federal employees do and why it is so incredibly important that they are able to do that work by following the science and to do it outside of the political wranglings that often go on in washington. so that they can do the work that the american people really expect of them and that they can do it independently and they can do it with integrity. i think that's really an important concept. >> tony reardon, thanks for joining me this morning. still to come in the
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prosecutors could wrap their case up as early as today in the trial of dylann roof. roof is the man who confessed to gunning down nine people inside a charleston, south carolina church. testimony from a dozen witnesses tuesday helped paint a picture of roof's actions in the months leading up to the massacre, including six visits to or near the emmanuel ame church. meantime, this chilling new video shows roof taking target practice ahead of the shooting.
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nick valencia is following the case live in atlanta. good morning. >> reporter: good morning. this trial is more than a year in the making. thanks for reminding viewers that roof had confessed to these killings. he actually tried to bring -- plead guilty in this case but he wanted the death penalty removed. that was not something the prosecutors were willing to do so this case went forward. over the course of the last week, prosecutors had painted dylann roof as a cold-blooded, calculated killer, somebody who meticulously planned the killings of nine people in the historic black church. parts of discovery that had been shown in court include his website, which shows adoration towards white supremacy, hatred towards blacks. they read his manifesto, parts of it, in court. they also talked about this white sheet found in his room cut into a triangle fashion. investigators believe to imitate a ku klux klan hood. it goes without saying inside that courtroom, i was there last week, incredibly emotional. one of the first witnesses brought to the stand was felicia
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sanders, one of the survivors of that shooting. she actually had to take a break from her testimony because it was so emotional. also during opening statements, dylann roof's own mother suffered a heart attack and had to be removed from the courtroom, transferred to a local hospital by ambulance. there's also been a lot of drama around the defense for dylann roof. initially he said he wanted to represent himself in the guilt phase as well as the penalty phase. two sundays ago, he changed his mind asking only to represent himself during the penalty phase. the attorney that he has now is a famed death penalty lawyer, somebody who says he wasn't planning on calling many character witnesses for roof. however, that may change after he alluded to that, that we could see today some character witnesses brought forward by the defense. what we know that's going to happen today is the medical examiner will testify as well as polly shepherd, the woman that roof allegedly left alive to tell the horrors of what happened inside that church last july. we should also mention roof is not only facing this federal death penalty case but also a
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good morning. i'm carol costello. thank you so much for joining me. donald trump leads his thank you tour to wisconsin and puts on a big show of unity with the state's native son, house speaker paul ryan buchlt the wisconsin crowd apparently not forgetting ryan's reluctance to embrace his party's nominee. listen to the crowd's reaction as the president-elect extends anli

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