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syria's largest city. with word of a cease-fire they thought there would be a chance to us scape but with the crack of artillery fire their window to freedom slammed shut. pro-government forces said to be dropping another round of bombs in renewing a four-year-long battle for aleppo, the future for some 50,000 people ran theed inside the city remains unclear. here's what we do know is that after the bombs fall all that's left are the muffled cries for help be below the rubble. some run from the chaos, others run toward it these people documented in a new film, these are the white helmets.
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♪ oh, when the saints go marching in ♪ when the saints go marching in ♪ oh, lord, i want to be in that number ♪ ♪ when the saints go marching in ♪ >> when the saints go marching in, the white helmets in syria, two people behind this documentary film now join america orlando vaughan, issa dow is a director of the white helmets and joanna cigar is the
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producer. thank you for joining me as we so far away try to understand and help what's happening. joe wanna, first to you, i understand you're in contact with some of the white helmets. as we're getting reports of increased shelling, what are they telling you about the situation on the ground? >> they're very frightened brooke. the situation is incredibly difficult on the ground and you're right the cease-fire has failed to produce any results. really what we're dealing with now is people afraid for their own lives. people who have spent the last few years digging out, saving other people are now afraid for their own lives. >> we know -- we read the latest tweet from the white helmets posting "the regime has been trying to kill us for five years, since 2013 more than the 130 of these white helmets have been killed and orlando in your film we saw they're former blacksmiths, teachers, tailors, these are volunteers. but what sort of person chooses
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to put him or herself in this kind of danger. >> they are extraordinary people. we spent five weeks living with the white helmets and the film team asked ourselves could we do what they do? they are normal people like me or you and everyday they're out risking their lives saving strangers and i think the answer we came to at the end is i don't know if we could do that. >> in the film, you see one of these white helmets finds out his own brother is trapped under the rubble at a hospital and he finds out his brother was killed in the air strike. these are the men who are witnessing with their own eyes the horror we only watch through a tv screen and these rescues in their own neighborhoods, joy wanna, from what you saw, how are they coping emotionally? >> in an incredible way. they have such strength of
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character and the character you mention who loses his brother in that hospital, his brother, to be clear, is not a patient. his brother was a worker for doctors without borders, he was also working as a humanitarian and was killed in a targeted attack on that hospital. >> and to have cameras in this part of the world, it's only a fraction of what happened. i know one of you wrote we could only show a tiny percentage of the horror these people witnessed without making the whole film completely unwatchable, orlando, tell me about that and how you struck some sort of balance? >> absolutely. the material -- what these guys see on daily basis is truly, truly shocking and we clearly had to strike a balance between showing what was appropriate so
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that viewers understood enough about the context of what civilians are experiencing evidence but also making the film feel hope informal a sense because we believe that what the white helmets are is they do represent hope. theirs is a story which cuts through the politics. you can't argue with people that risk their lives to save strangers on a daily basis. >> final question for either of you, i was talking to clarissa ward who's our international correspondent, she's been in these parts of syria and she knows these syrians who don't know if they'll live to see another day. she told me last hour she's receiving messages from them saying thank you for your work and good-bye. are you getting those messages? >> i mean, if i can jump in, we aren't quite receiving that level but we are receiving certainly very sad, very tired messages from people that are both still inside or have made it just out. this is a desperate time and all
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the white helmets are calling for safe passage. i think it's important that humanitarian law is upheld at this point and those pleas are heard. >> the film is on netflix called the white helmets, orlando and joanna, thank you so much for the time and this piece of journalism. >> thank you very much. >> thank you. we have more breaking news today. this historic financial milestone, the federal reserve raised its key interest rate for the second time the last ten years this is happening as the dow is encroaching upon that 20,000 number which would be record breaking. we've got less than an hour to go before the closing bell. with me now, richard quest, host of "quest means business" and "cnn money" editor at large. hello. >> hello. >> so .25%, not a mega surprise, did you think it would be more? >> oh, no, no, no, no, no. absolutely not. we're toe in the water business here. you don't want to scare the
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horses and this is literally -- remember rates are very low. this is crucial to understand. what we are talking about here is just taking a bit of the froth off the top. we are not talking about a massive tightening so far. you're talking about the first rate rise that happened post-crisis a year to the day just about and now you take another quarter point off taking the fed from these rates to three quarters. >> so with credit cards and people vying homes and that sort of thing, cars -- >> some will go up sock were the short-term rates related to credit cards, bank loans, yes, because of possible future economic policies by president trump, long-term rates which are not linked to the fed funds but to bonds but the thing to remember is this is a sign of economic suck setsz.
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i nation is at 1.6% and i'll tell you what the if i had will watch a bit, the fed. they believe rates will go up faster than they have been believing. what they will watch is donald trump's policies how fast they increase the growth of the economy and do they need to move faster to keep inflation under control. >> speaking of donald trump, we have some sound, he's been sitting in trump tower with these tech giants. take a look. >> i'm'm here to help you folks do well and you're doing well right now and i'm very honored by the bounce. they're all talking about the bounce so right now everybody in this room has to like me at least a little bit but with we're going to try to have that bounce continue and perhaps more importantly we want you to keep going with the incredible innovation, there's nobody like you in the world. there's nobody like the people in this world. and anything we can do to help
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this go along, we'll be there for you and you'll call my people, you'll call me, doesn't make any difference, we have no formal chain of command around here. >> so we see the vice president-elect, we saw his adult children but many of the other people in the room not big fans of candidate donald trump. >> you're being polite. you're being polite. they politicked, campaigned and electioneered against him in brutal terms but the election is over. the election is over and tech, which has been suffering and tech which stands to suffer because of trump's policies or potential policies creating a trade conflict with china. remember all those tech ceos rely on asia for a supply chain that goes deep from the midwest of the u.s. to deep in the middle of china. if there's any disruption they suffer which is why you've seen apple, you've seen facebook, all the big tech stocks nowhere near
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as ebullient as enough the old-fashioned stocks. one other thing you'll be fascinated by those pictures, real serious conflict of interest questions. you know, he says the sons and the daughter will be the executives. what are they doing at that meeting? simple question. what are they doing with the president-elect of the united states discussing policy with ceos when they are also in business? >> tomorrow was supposed to be the news conference when he would explain it all. >> it's a new world, brooke, it's a new world. >> richard quest, come back more. richard quest, thank you so much. he mentioned that key point, donald trump's adult children at the meeting. news today involving mr. trump's sons, their involvement in the administration. sources are telling cnn that don, jr., personally interviewed candidates for secretary of interi interior. that nomination pick has gone to a montana congressman and eric trump according to one of trump's top aides was present in
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at least one meeting with the president-elect and governor mitt romney. romney had been in the running for secretary of state. remember, just two days ago the president-elect called out his sons by name, tweeting that he, donald trump, would be leaving his businesses and "two of my children, don and eric, plus executives will manage them." so let's begin there with cnn chief political analyst gloria borger and david farenthold is with us from the juan. david just first to you, your reaction is seeing the adult children in the room just now? >> well, as richard said, we're talking about people that are going to be running trump's business and the reason this matters is because if those folks are going to be running the business they'll have access and be involved in the governing of the country, they'll have access to a huge amount of information they could use to help their business and there will be questions throughout about whether trump or they are acting in the interest of the trump organization or the
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interest of the country which -- asking which comes first. >> gloria, a source says ivanka trump will be moving into the space used by the first lady into the white house. what do you make of that and what does that mean for the actual role of the actual first lady melania trump. >> well, it will be the family wing of the white house. perhaps melania will have an office and ivanka will have an office. i think what it tells you about ivanka trump is that she is going to be very involved in terms of policy, particularly in terms of policy that she cares about which is women's issues, children's issues, perhaps the environment and that given their relationship and given the president's relationship with all of his children you can expect that there's going to be a lot of cross pollination there and the question that david raises that even if the two boys
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recuse themselves and leave the white house grounds, how much information will they get? how do you know that they would not be privy to a lot of information that they can then use to further their businesses? and so it's a very tricky thing both with keeping ivanka inside in a policy role and keeping the boys outside. >> well, down the road from the white house is the new trump hotel and we have to talk about that, david, because the gsa, the general services administration say if things stay status quo, trump will be in violation of the lease when he's sworn in on inauguration day it sits on federal property and there's a provision in the deal that prevents any official, president of the united states, from having a piece of the lease. what do you think trump should do? >> well, what the lease says is
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he should get out of his involvement with that hotel. and there's a good reason for that, both for the government and also for trump. if trump had created a giant conflict of interest, literally three blocks away from the white house, that's a bad thing for the country and it's a bad thing for him because all the time he'll be faced with questions about whether he's acting to promote his hotel, mr. he's helping people more who paid for the hotel. he's going to have that question overlaid on anything he does. especially as foreign governments anything your out that's a way to influence him. so it's a good thing for him to comply with the lease just for the law but it's important for him to get that obvious blazing conflict of interest a couple of blocks away across the table. yes, it's a nice hotel, yes he likes running it but he's president now, that has to take precedence. >> sources are telling cnn that sean spicer of the rnc and trump transition spokesperson are favored to become the white house press secretary, we learned that as reince priebus
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has opened the door to changing the white house daily briefing, maybe taking away some tv seats. how would that work? what could they do? >> first of all, it's not surprising. secondly, the tv seats, adds they're assigned in the white house briefing room, is determined by the white house correspondents' association. it's not determined by the president of the united states or his emissaries who say, you know, i like this news organization i like that news organization so this is between the white house correspondents' association and the incoming administration and the press secretary. i think they can decide not to do as many briefings but there are going to be questions of transparency that are raised and i also belief that it's a way for a white house to get out its take on a story. now, if you have a president who continually tweets his own takes on the story, maybe you don't need those briefings everyday if
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you're looking at it from the trump administration point of view because they have the president tweeting. but i think these are things that have really to be worked out and if there's a controversy between the media and the trump folks, that's not going to be new. we saw that continuing day in and day out during the campaign. all we want to do is cover the administration in the best ways that we know how. >> that's right. that's right and we should be able to do that. david farenthold, gloria borger, thank you. >> thanks. did a typo lead to the breach of hillary clinton's campaign. stunning new details from the "new york times" about russia's alleged hacking, we'll talk through that. also, a college professor in hiding after this clip has surfaced showing her ripping donald trump in her class. we'll discuss that and how students on both sides of the
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you get more than a big discount. that's what you get for bundling home and auto! jamie! you get sneaky-good coverage. thanks. we're gonna live forever! welcome back, i'm brooke baldwin. we are learning stunning new details about russia's interference with the election, how it began, how they broke in and the minute someone realized something was wrong. the "new york times" realized for the first time the fbi notified the dnc a computer system had been compromised. the dnc staffer on the other end of if phone thought it might have been a prank call. further more we now know how the hackers accessed the e-mail of
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hillary clinton's top aide john podesta which apparently started with a typo. hackers sent a phishing e-mail which a staffer then forwarded to john podesta with a message "this is a legitimate e-mail" and now that is said and done the staffer says they meant to type requests that an illegitimate e-mail." big difference. joining me david sanger, national correspondent for the "new york times." david, welcome. >> thanks, brooke. so t >> so the way the whole story unfolds i they want thinking you mean to tell me this dnc hack started with an fbi phone call and fears from some i.t. person that this was a prank caller. >> well, brooke, what we were trying to do in our story the times today which we have to warn your viewers is 7,000 words long and a narrative that takes you from the beginning of the discovery of the hack through to
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the responses in the white house as recently as a few weeks ago and what happened in between is that at the beginning there were many missteps. the dnc underreacted. didn't tell its top leadership or the young cyber security people who heard this warning from the fbi that they didn't believe fully at the beginning. didn't tell anybody senior at the dnc until april of this year. and that is the period of time that allowed the russian hackers to actually go wild, not only inside the dnc systems but then to move on and attack mr. podesta's private gmail account. so there was lost time. the fbi didn't escalate it. >> can i stop you there, david? that's what -- just the bit on the fbi, listen, i understand they have a massive job to do but we're talking about the presidential election. we're talking about the dnc. why didn't someone show up and bang on the door and say, hey, listen up,ing this's awry?
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>> especially because the doors aren't that far apart. you could walk between the fbi headquarters and the dnc headquarters on your way to get a cup of coffee so it's not as if this was a distant target. it's a great question because the fbi didn't escalate it, they get a lot of cyber-related information and intelligence and they try to warn the people who are being attacked, they're overwhelmed but in this case there are certain things that they knew. it's the dean see and there's a presidential election coming up. president obama when he was running in 2008 you'll recall, brooke, had his campaign e-mails cleaned out by the chinese as did senator john mccain who was running against him. so it's not as if it's the first time we've seen campaigns be targets? >> but what about specifically on john podesta?
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he wrote a memo to the president on cyber security. this is someone who's been in washington a long time. how did he fall victim? >> he fell victim the way many of us have for a sophisticated fishing e-mail. the -- there were many people in the clinton campaign who received this e-mail. he was one of the few who did not have on his system what's called two-factor authentification which is the method that where before you sign in a code is sent back to your cell phone or some other way of assuring it's really you and i would say to your viewers that if there's one lesson out of our 7,000 word thing -- >> i just did it myself. >> after they've done watching you on cnn make sure they get the two factor authentification. >> why do you think the white house didn't do more to sound the alarm? >> this was complicated for the white house. in the sony hack two years ago the president came down into the press room, he announced it was the north koreans who did the
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hack, he vowed retaliation. he never publicly talked very much about the russians in this case, he didn't vow retaliation and the reasons were complex. first is they have a lot of other interests in russia, including trying to get a settlement in syria. they were concerned about getting on an escalation ladder they couldn't get off of so if they responded to the russians and the russians decided to strike back on election day you remember how many concerns there were about the security of the polling system. thirdly they were concerned that a big public announcement from the white house would undercut public confidence in the credibility of the voting system. >> david sanger, you and your 7,000 words, thank you. thanks for the time. >> thank you very much. next here on cnn, a major headline in the war against isis, after two years of u.s.-led air strikes, why the u.s. said it is closer than ever to defeating the terror group. back in a moment.
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a u.s. official says at least 75% of isis fighters have been killed during the u.s.-led air strikes and they believe isis now has roughly 15,000 quote/unquote battle ready fighters adding that the terror group is no longer able to replenish its ranks. >> we're having tremendous success against this enemy. it's accelerating, we're now putting pressure on its two so-called capitals of mosul and raqqah, but this remains an unprecedented threat, the fight isn't over, this will remain a multiyear effort. >> joining me now, cnn military
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analyst, retired major general spider marks, general marks, good to see you, sir. >> thank you, brooke. happy holidays. >> thank you, same to you. quickly, on the number, 75%. >> right. >> i want to say that's huge and significant but how do they know 75% versus 15% and how many fighters are on the battlefield? >> well, first of all don't celebrate, the attrition of 75% is very much -- it's a qualitative estimate, it has some science behind it but you also have to do some assessments and analysis that speaks to capabilities and intentions so the numbers might be reduce bud they still have a desire to expand and do other things. keep in mind this is like a bucket you should a faucet and the faucet is on and there's a hole on the bottom. so there's attrition where numbers are fouling out but there's recruitment where people are coming back in. so 75%, the caliphate has a defined geography to it. there have been places where
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isis has been very strong. they have been forced to move and their numbers have been atritted. so there is a bit of art in this assessment this takes place but there is some science that goes into that and you can get into numbers and capabilities and you can look at it. >> but to be clear we're not talking isis leaders, these are -- >> workers. >> fighters on the battlefield. >> correct. >> what will it take to ultimately neutralize isis, all of isis? >> well, we are not ever going to neutralize an ideology. remember, isis is an ideology. as you atritt and shrink the caliphate where they are physically located in syria and iraq recruitment is taking place in your neighborhood, in europe, we know that, we see that, it's very cynically being done online so we are never going to completely defeat this ideology, it will remain there has to be an alternative and resistance
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from within but where this physical caliphate exists we've done a good job with our air efforts, we have some coalition partners going after them and there has been real difficulty so when you look at the pieces of terrain and in order for isis to do what it is doing in each of these specific locations you can do some estimates. if you're going to own this amount of size, this is about the number of folks that are there, workers. but thinking ahead to the next administration because we heard an interview with fareed zakaria and president obama saying it was one of the smartest decisions he made based upon a bad number of options but you know what mr. trump said so far, we know he's also getting briefed by one of the generals. what do you think will happen looking ahead post- -- in a post-january 20 era. >> there are things we can do that have probably been placed on the table, we know who those leaders are in our national security -- our current national security apparatus, we know who they are. i know who they are they have
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probably put on the table a number of options that have been discounted for a whole bunch of reasons. totally get that. one of those could be very legitimately you've seen we've incrementally increased our presences in places like both afghanistan and iraq. that's a bad strategy you don't want to continue to increase and increase. you want to create a force that's available and as you describe a menu of options to go after isis. that means we have to have increased special forces ability -- not numbers necessarily -- but ability with-to-go if some form of sanctuary to go into targets in syria and then recycle, much like general mcchrystal did with his joint special operations command in iraq many years ago where you got intelligence and you could turn quickly. we don't have that capability, we have a strategic capability that becomes an option. >> okay. spider marks, general marx, thank you so much. >> thank you brooke very much. >> new developments here in the
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the south carolina jury hearing the death penalty case against the man charged with murdering nine black parishioners inside a charleston historic mother emanuel a.m. church could get the case
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tomorrow. closing arguments will begin after six days of graphic gut wrenching testimony. on the stand today the one survivor who the shooter said he would not kill, polly shepherd. she testified she was actually praying outloud during this massacre. she dialed 911, begging for help. i was in charleston just a couple months ago and i spoke with her and several others in that community this is what she shared with me. before you retired, you were a nurse in that detention center. >> yes. >> where he's being held. >> uh-huh. >> so had you not retired you could be tending to this man. >> and i would. >> you would? >> he would get the best care i could give him. >> how would you find the grace in your heart to do that? >> you can't fight evil with evil. love overcomes everything. >> what's your message to folks
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who are struggling with this, the rhetoric is so full of hate right now. >> if congress didn't do anything when they killed those children at sandy hook, they're not going to do anything now. what does anyone need with a gun that shoots 10 to 18 rounds at bun time? and we need gun control. too many mass killings back to back. we can do better. >> with know talk about this case, senior legal analyst and federal prosecutor jeffrey toobin. jeffrey, the fact the defense rested, i was talking to mark o'mara last hour. he couldn't believe how quickly they rested. how do you feel about it? >> i don't think there's much the defense can do in this case. this is a horrific open-and-shut case. i think the only issue in this case is whether dylann roof gets
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the death penalty there i think he almost certainly will. that will be in the penalty phase. here in the guilt phase i think the defense lawyers worry that by putting on ed here they could just insult the jury's intelligence. this is not a who done it. this is not a mystery about who did this shooting. >> this is a "if he gets put to death." >> right. and that will be a separate -- the way death penalty cases work is you have the guilt face which is concluding and it's a foregone conclusion what the result will be and then they'll move to the penalty phase and there will be some kind of strategy on the part of the defense and there will be some witnesses there but this case is so horrific and ms. sheppard who you interviewed, that sort of grace and serenity, all i can say is it's a model to us all but one i sure couldn't follow. >> i know. i know. we spent two days interviewing some pretty incredible people
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and i just sat there in silence. but with regard to the next phase, the penalty phase and whether or not he gets put to death, how did the defense -- how did they present the case that, you know, his life should be spared? >> well, just to put it mildly, it's not easy. if they can, the defense will point to aspects of dylann roof's background. if he has some terrible family history, if he has some trauma in his background that may explain this rage. that's the kind of thing that often comes up in a penalty phase. some sort of not an excuse but an explanation for why his life went so wrong but it's not like the defense has an abundance of good arguments and they'll pick one to present to the jury.
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it's horrendous case. he's obviously guilty. >> but jeff toobin, there are a number of family member connected to this case who don't believe he should be put to death. do they take that into consideration at all? >> it's very possible. they have said that publicly. i'm not sure they would be willing to testify on the witness stand there are lots of people in the world who don't believe in the death penalty. more and more americans don't. but this is what's called a death-qualified jury. that mean this is jury will at least consider supporting it. that persuades them not to impose the death penalty. if not in this case when would you impose it. >> jeff toobin, thank you. coming up next, a college professor says she was forced into hiding after she was caught
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in her classroom ranting about president-elect trump. this is a story that has divided this college campus. we'll discuss next.
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>> a college professor has gone into hiding after she spoke out against donald trump in class and the hateful backlash she has received has triggered an intense debate over what can and
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cannot be said on a college campus. cnn's kyung lah explains what the professor was caught on camera saying. >> our nation is divided. we have been assaulted. >> that's professor olga cox secretly recorded lecturing to her orange coast college students not on the day's lesson but trump's election. >> it's an act of terrorism, one of the most frightening things for me and most people in my life is that the people committing the assault are among us. >> reporter: the professor's words spoken in her class on human sexuality and s now fuel for conservatives outnumbered on this liberal california campus. >> we obviously feel that at times we're ignored, our opinions don't matter, they should not be void, they should not be facing ridicule. >> reporter: the college's republican club posted the two-minute video from the anonymous student. fury followed. in threatening e-mails to professor cox "we'll put a bullet in your face.
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people like you will be the first ones slaughtered." >> so kyung also reports the professor's union says she has now moved out of state and it's not clear if she will return. with me now, trump supporter harlan hill, a political consultant and cnn political commentator sally kohn, also the columnist for the daily beast. once upon a time you were on team bernie and now two paths have diverged. >> boy, have they. >> do you think the professor went too far? >> i do. i think she peddled in this line that's prevalent on the left which is that donald trump is a white supremacist that appeals to racists and homophobes and i think that's dangerous rhetoric. now she doesn't deserve these debt threats, there's nothing she could say that would warrant the response she's getting. though i will say, i will say -- >> but? >> i will say that, you know, the student has received similar threats as well for putting this clip online. they were threatened with expulsion from the school originally. so there's a lot of -- to take issue with on both sides of
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this. >> being threatened with expulsion, i don't know what the school's policy are, but that's not the same as death threats. >> i totally agree. >> and let's be clear, i don't need to defend, i don't want to defend what this teacher said, her timing for saying it, we don't know the context. that doesn't matter. what's most interesting here is i spent the entire year hearing from conservatives that liberals are impeding and quashing free speech on campuses. donald trump ran his campaign ostensibly against political correctness, against people being told what to say and how to say it. and now here's someone expressing her opinion, if you don't like it, fine, i 100% support the right of the students to protest, call for her to be fired, have that debate and discussion but death threats? and let's be clear, i know people on the right and left who did not support trump who gotten a increase in death threats and all kinds of hate -- >> would you feel if this was eight years ago and the chunk of conservatives -- >> sprfree speech is free speec
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>> would you feel the same >> of course, the difference between liking what someone says and protecting their right to say it is, i think, pretty plain in this country. and again, the first amendment doesn't protect -- and i don't mean -- if this is a public school and all that it's a larger issue. i am talking about the spirit of the first amendment. we don't give people death threats. i'm going to come off this segment and have them too. it's been all year. >> i get them too. >> i'm sorry, but the rise in this under trump -- listen, it is not -- the -- we should punch that protester in the face. and maybe that homeless man deserved to be kicked. that's him incentivizing and encouraging that nastiness in our society. >> with all due respect, if the worst thing that's ever happened to you is the election of donald trump to be the president of the united states, you've lived a charmed life. that's what this professor said. she is in a position of
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authority trying to indoctrinate her students. i take issue what she did. >> i am not defending what she did. >> the response she has received is unwarranted. i think across many college campuses in the country this is accepted as the norm. i can remember, from my time at school, that i never had a conservative teacher in college. never. >> when conservative teachers preach will trickle-down economics or conservative economics talk about the problem with the welfare state, this is about intellectual freedom. you don't have to agree with or endorse what the professor said. for instance, if she had been giving a speech about -- >> there is no intellectual diversity. that's the problem. >> tackle that. don't endorse threatening and intimidating because of what she said. >> there are calls for colleges as a safe zones. does that extend to what teachers are saying. i hear you, both sides. what about donald trump. he was supposed to be holding a news conference tomorrow -- he
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is our next president, sally. it's important we talk about him. >> i know. >> tomorrow he is supposed to have a news conference to explain how this is going to work, divesting company. he has a stake in hundreds of places around the world. we now have seen that he has pushed that off and that don jr. helped in a cabinet pick with the interior secretary. which is leaving liberals concerned. >> first let's say that -- let's acknowledge that trump's kids are his most trusted, competent advisers. thank god he surrounded himself with his children because i think that they're a positive influence on him. >> hang on a second. my 8-year-old is a positive influence on me, but i don't bring her in to consult on issues of foreign policy and worldly decision-making. >> tell me how it's not a conflict of interest. >> first of all, he is not president of the united states yet. look, if they're still running his business and they are advising him day to day, sitting in on meetings when he is president of the united states after inauguration day, i might have issue with that --
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>> he was going to have a press conference, presumably to say he is stepping away from his business and giving it to his two sons. >> correct. >> we can, i think, safely assume that the reason he postponed said press conference is because his sons, who presumably will now autonomously be not in relation to his governing, are involved in situations in laying out his presidency, which is breaking some rules which -- i'm sorry. i can't help every day but think what would have happened if barack obama had done a comparable thing. what would have happened if hillary clinton had been elected and done a comparable thing. >> she did do a comparable thing
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in the state department. >> the outrage from the right would be unparalleled. i understand you think barack obama -- >> it's true. if hillary clinton was sitting a the round table and we saw chelsea clinton, heads would have exploded. >> hillary clinton had conflicts of interest at the state department. she continued to have a role in the clinton foundation. there were communications between her staff at the state department and -- >> it's a charitable foundation. >> it enriched her family and friends. it's just as good as a business. >> let's give trump the benefit of the doubt that he has a legal team and they're trying to work through it. he is supposed to hold a news conference. final question to you, sir. how confident are you that he will make it crystal-clear what's happening with his business and the white house and his family and that it's like this? >> he has surrounded himself with some of the best lawyers on the planet and i think they'll be very clear about the roles of
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man who will soon be their commander in chief before he has even taken the oath of office. welcome to "the lead," everyone. that's the closing bell. we're going to get to all the headlines in a moment. first we have the breaking news in the money lead. the dow continuing to flirt with its 20,000 points milestone. this as the fed this afternoon raised its key interest rate for just the second time in a decade. that interest rate, of course, affects everything from bank accounts to home loans. the announcement just moments ago from federal reserve chair janet yellen. let's get right to alison kosik at the stock exchange. borrowing money just got a little bit more expensive. how is the market reacting? >> reporter: you're seeing the dow closing down 117 points. it's not because the hike happened. that was expected.
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