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for a suspect behind that terror attack that killed 12 people and injured dozens at that christmas market in berlin. >> the search had to resume because forensic tests could not link the initial suspect to the truck. isis then came forward and said it inspired the attack. that's unusual language for them. we'll get into what that means. let's ghin hour with cnn's international hala gorani and about what we learned about be the suspect. a big turn from the refugee to this tunisian man. what do we know now? >> reporter: right. very significant news this morning. security source telling cnn they found i.d. papers of an individual, a tunisian national born in 1992. so 24 or 25 years old. a young man. now it's a race against the clock to hone in on this individual and make sure they neutralize or arrest him before he can do any more damage. take a look.
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an urgent manhunt under way across germany. authorities telling cnn they are now looking for a tunisian national born in 1992. officials believe he may be connected to monday's deadly attack after finding his identity papers inside the truck. the desperate search intensifying after german authorities acknowledged tuesday that they initially detained the wrong man. releasing the man who they pick up after forensic evidence failed to connect him to the scene. this as isis claims they inspired the attack calling the driver their soldier. although investigators have yet to uncover any specific links to the terrorist group. >> we don't have enough information right now to back up the claims by isis that they inspired or direct order in anyway involved in this. we think it's prudent for the germans to treat this as a plausible terrorist take. >> reporter: the date take the
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polish driver of the black semitruck was on a planned run from italy to germany delivering steel before losing contact with his employer. authorities believe that the truck was hijacked about four hours before plowing in to the christmas market. the driver's body shot at close range found in the passenger seat. >> people go here to have a good evening. to have -- they drink and they eat something and stay here and with friends or family and then they are dead. >> reporter: thousands of mourners including german chancellor angela merkel filing into the famous kaiser wilheim chump tuesday to pay respect to the victims. merkel's re-election bid complicated by the assault as she faces growing concerns over her government's generous acceptance of nearly 900,000 asylum seekers over the past year. despite the fact that initial
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reports about the driver being a refugee were wrong, far right leaders in europe are already casting blame on the german chancellor for the attack. so it's going to be very important to apprehend this individual to determine a, if he was the perpetrator, b, if he was connected to a network or a lone wolf individual if, indeed, it is him who perpetrated this horrific attack inspired by isis material online. all questions the german people want answered as quickly as possible to make sure this doesn't happen again. thank you for setting all of that up for us. let's talk more about it and hat investigators are dealing with. let's bring in counterterrorism analyst and cia official phil mudd and former u.s. ambassador to iraq and turkey james jeffries. gentlemen thank you very much. so they have these i'
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identification papers of a tunisian. they have dna from truck. why aren't they releasing his name. what now? how do they try to find one person in a european manhunt? >> first thing they are going to do is look at public information, for example where he lived, his apartments, go talk to anybody who lived with him or around him. if they have a name you can presume they have the potential to go to communications companies and determine if he has a cell phone. he has a cell phone that thing is like a noose around his neck. who did he talk, to who did he text, his contact list. every one of those people are being covered. the next question is whether they have a photograph so you can go to the public. they know if they have technical information like his phone, who his inner circle is. i want to know if they release the photo if he touches people who he doesn't know and call in and say hey this is our guy. the reason they may not release the name they don't want to tell him they know.
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i suspect they are closing in on him. >> quick follow. it is relevant he may have used ali as and what does it mean isis says they inspired the attack? that's unusual language for them. >> reporte >> the isis inspired means nong november thing. isis is on the run. european and american security officials have talked about in contrast to 2014 how many fewer young people from europe and the united states and north america are going to syria. if you're in the isis situation you just lost aleppo, sitting there saying wow what's the down side to saying this is our guy. i want to still recruit people. maybe it can look we have some semblance of power among potential recruits. on the ali as that's critically important. a name in this digital world gives you a clue to what somebody's e-mail s-what their phone s-what their atm accounts are. it gives you a digital trail.
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if you have an ali as that puts you off the digital trail that in essence will allow to you close in on a human being just by looking at the footprint he left by where he took money out, who he called and who he texted. >> ambassador jeffries this was not as was original lie reported by the authorities, not a refugee from pakistan. we don't know this suspect's refugee status, only that he was a tunisian national. yet if the damage is done for angela merkel, the fact that people already are saying as -- this has given them a reason to renew the debate and criticism of her for allowing in almost a million refugees. >> the damage is done. again if this suspect this tunisian turns out to be, in fact the person who perpetrated the crime the important thing is not whether you're a refugee or not it's that you're a muslim. that's the problem. that's the issue in german politics today with this
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populace wave. not against refugees siberia, it's against people who are muslims who will support terror or not assimilate into german society. that's the crucial problem for merkel. >> phil, i was reading a piece the other day about john f. kennedy and the different what happens during the behave pigs and what happens during the standoff. writer's theory was the big difference in kennedy he had been seasoned from experience with getting his intel briefings, he knew what he got wrong on the behave pigs, who to trust, who not, how big of a circle, what kind of questions to ask. those questions are now coming bullpen the president-elect and his reluctance to get intel briefings on a daily basis. he says pence gets them. i listen to my guys. i don't need them every day. is there an instruction in what john f. kennedy did? >> there's a short piece of this. what i learned in the business,
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especially in the business of crisis is that there's one characteristic, one key characteristic of leadership. when things get hotter you get cooler. i'm not seeing that happen here. when i see tweets hours after an event before european officials even speak that tells me when things get hotter we have a president-elect who gets hotter. on your question about intelligence briefings, don't use that word briefing. this is a conversation where you have leaders in the room, vice president, national security adviser, potentially other officials, chief of staff in the oval office and you receive information in this case, for example, about the attack. couple of days ago it would have been what the chinese were doing with that drone. that begins a conversation where the president-elect can go back and forth saying what did we really know, what's the history of chinese activity in the south china sea, turning to his advisers and saying what's the precedent for this in terms of u.s. military reaction. it's a conversation in the oval office or in this case in mar
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mar-a-lago. it's a 360-degree exercise not just a one way briefing. >> ambassador jeffries i want to ask you about what has happened since the assassination of the russian ambassador in ankara, turkey. it was a turkish gunman who killed the russian ambassador. yet somehow it seems geopolitically this has brought turkey and russia together to figure out what to do in syria. explain what's happening. >> well it has only had a minor effect, putin has played this well. what he has done is encourage the idea of turkey towards its thinking that this is another plot by the movement which tried to overthrow the turkish president. the leader of the movement is here in pennsylvania, the turks
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want him extradicted. what happened in russia between iran, russia and turkey following the fall of aleppo over the last two days is a good indication that the middle east is shifting away from the united states towards some sort of condominium between iran and russia and turkey feels it has no choice but to try to make hay with these people because turkey is on the losing side of this battle in aleppo and siroa. >> how troubling it? >> terribly troulg. since the early 1970s united states has guaranteed the basic international order in the middle east. we walked away from that in syria and a few other places and seeing results right now not just in syria or russia but seeing it in europe with this refugee flow. >> thank you both very much for all of your expertise. trump's transition team says the president-elect is keeping a
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close eye on the terror attacks in turkey and berlin. this as his children deny involvement in a fundraiser that they were tied to that was reportedly advertising access to the president-elect to high donors. what are the facts? cnn's jessigentlemen sjessica s more. >> the brochure advertised it as a chance to meet the president and participate in a multi-day fishing and hunting trip with eric to donald trump. the transition team is push back after this became news saying trump's sons asked to be removed from any mention in that fundraising event. this is the statement. the opening day event and details that have been reported are merely initial concepts that have not been approved or pursued by the trump family. eric and donald trump or avid outdoorsmen. however they are not involved in nay capacity. now the brothers say that they will not attend the event but
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despite legal documents showing that eric trump served on the board of directors for that newly formed charity, all that while there's uncertainty about whether the president-elect received official briefings from u.s. intelligence in the wake of those attacks in europe and turkey this week. the transition has not answered repeated ininquire rice from cnn about whether trump was briefed only saying that he's closely monitoring the situation and getting daily briefings from his national security adviser, michael flynn. cnn has learned that trump has been averaging one presidential daily briefing per week with some weeks as many as three and the president-elect does have someone available direct try to him 24/7 to inform him on the latest intelligence. that's good to know how that works behind-the-scenes. we didn't have that information there might being three briefings per week. we do have some breaking news. the death toll has gone up to 29 following those massive explosions at a fireworks market north mexico city.
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more than 70 people were injured. cnn's ed lavandera is following the very latest for us. he's live from dallas. what's the latest, sned. >> good morning. it was a stunning and terrifying sight as a fireworks stand in this popular market just north of mexico city started erupting in explosions that seemed to go on forever. mexican authorities are still searches for what exactly set off this massive fireworks explosion that left dozens dead and even more injured. a horrifying sight in the town of tultepec. shooting flares ripping through the stadium size marketplace about 25 miles north of mexico city. this towering gray cloud could be seen for miles. image from above capture the chaos showing emergency vehicles arriving on the scene. people running for their lives, many of the injured escaping with severe burns including
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three minors. >> translator: to tell the truth die not know how i ran out of here. everything was shore bill. >> reporter: after battling the blaze for hours firefighters on the ground confirm the fires are now contained. but the devastation left behind is staggering. the marketplace was bustling with holiday shoppers now reduced to rubble and ash. and this isn't the first time this market known for its pyrotechnics has been rocked by such tragedy. this latest catastrophe marks the third time fires ravaged this location in the last decade. tultepec is basically known as the fireworks capital of mexico. every year they hold a pyrotechnic festival. thank you very much for that reporting. president-elect donald trump quickly declaring monday's terrorist attacks as the work of islamist terrorists.
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of the committee for homeland security, will hurricane danielle. congre -- will hurd. let's talk about whether or not this matters. iran germany they had the wrong guy now they are looking at a tunisian. in turkey we still don't understand if that was man motivated by secular syrian concerns or sunni sectarian concerns or islamic extremism. the president-elect comes out right away and bundles them all as this is islamic terrorism, we got to get after it. is there any concern with doing that? >> well, attribution in attacks is incredibly important to do. sometimes despite the signatures of a particular attack that may look like a calling card of a known organization or a known terrorist group it may not be. this could impact the investigation and so, yes, i think before trying to attribute an attack you should know who it
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is first. and when it comes to the middle east it's such a complex and skr convoluted place and when you talk turkey and russia's activity specifically in sir area russia has created a lot of enemies and a lot of folks would like to see something happen to the government of russia. there's been protests against the russian embassy in turkey for a number of weeks and the relationship between the turks and the russians have been incredibly tense since the turks downed a russian plane a number of months ago. >> congressman, speak to the american concern that complexity is in effect weakness and what resonated during the campaign was the president-elect saying i'm not going mince words, we know what this s-this is muslims that are trying to kill us and everybody else wants to dance around this with political correctness.
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i'm not going to do that. his team is using this situation as an example of his directness. is there criticism of that or is he just speaking in a way that americans understand? >> well, i do believe that the greatest problem and greatest challenge that we have in the middle east is islamic terrorism, and isis is the poster child of that and we need to be doing everything we can to stop isis in its tracks on their home turf and that is going make us safer here in the homeland. so, this -- but there's other issues at play in the middle east. iran's influence in that region, russia's growing influence in that region, so there's a number of challenges that we have. i mean it is complex as i've said. but, you know, the challenge of
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islamic extremism if we stopped them in syria from growing you wouldn't have some of the problems that we're seeing throughout europe. you wouldn't have an entity that's able to inspire people even if they are 6,000 miles away. that's something that's incredibly troubling about isis' capabilities and it's a capability we did not see in al qaeda or other groups before them. >> let's shift topics and get your take on what you make of the president-elect and supporters around him refewing to acknowledge the intelligence consensus that russia was behind the hacks that took place during the election and senate leaders, senate majority leader mcconnell rejection of a select committee on hacking. he says the existing committees can handle it. >> well, i think a number of issues have been conflated over the last couple of weeks on this particular topic. it's very clear the russians did not influence our election.
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when it comes to the voting boxes, you know, manipulating the ones and zeros of the voting boxes that did not happen. but it's clear that organizations tied to russian intelligence was involved in the dnc, the campaign committee and the dnc hacks. the reality is they spent $6 mill thrown unseat me and an attack on them san attack on all of us. there has to be a clear and consist response to any kind of cyber attack on the u.s. government or our businesses that have been perpetrated by nation states. so, i think that what needs to happen going forward is the national intelligence apparatus needs have a clear assessment of can we figure out what, indeed, were the intentions of these groups? who made the call? and if we don't that have high place sources to do that what is the strategy to get there. and the best people to oversee that are the existing
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intelligence oversight committees. the people, the members that are on those committees understand intelligence. they understand the need to protect intelligence. when it comes to trying to understand the plans and intentions of one of our biggest adversaries that means we need have very well placed human sources that are putting themselves in harm's way and the folks on the intelligence committees are the ones that are able to protect that kind of information so that we can protect those people that are trying to give us insights >> you're believing to borrow an expression from the president-elect he should call it what it is when it comes to these hacks which is russia's involvement in trying to disrupt the democratic process why we need to discover and in terms of how you get that answer, you're okay with the existing committees? >> the existing committees are the best place. understanding the intention of our adversaries is incredibly important. knowing the tactics they use to
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gather information is also important to prevent certain outcomes from happening is important as well. this is something that's a clear response to this behavior so it doesn't happen in the future. you know, i've been calling for months at a minimum we should at least kicked the russian ambassador out of the united states stateser. it's not enough to tell someone to cut it out. there has to be a clear consequence to this kind of behavior. >> that would be a strong move, those removing a diplomat from the country. i haven't even heard that suggested. do you think there's any chance that happens? >> well, we'll see in the coming weeks, but it has to be strong. anybody trying to attempt to manipulate our elections in any form or fashion is unacceptable and the russians have a long history of information operations. they've been doing this in eastern europe for a number of years. the germans have been concerned about russian activity there.
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can you not let this happen again in the future. you can't allow this, you know, for anybody in the united states to question the integrity of our elections and we cannot allow an adversary like russia to get away with this kind of behavior. >> interesting suggestion from you congressman hurd. we have a plegt resident-elect 2014 acknowledging what you are talking about, russia's meddling. all the best for christmas. >> thank you, sir. so chris, that search warrant that was used to renew the clinton e-mail probe has just been unsealed and critics are blasting it. was this probable cause for the search less than two weeks before election day? cnn senior legal analyst is here next. usually what you see in neglected dogs. it was one of those complete, meant-to-be moments... i totally fell in love with him.
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we have an update into why fbi director james comey re-opened the investigation into hillary clinton's emails 11 days before election. the search warrant that was used to re-open that investigation has now been unsealed and after
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reading it, former clinton press secretary called the evidence flimsy and salt in the wound and he's not the only one. cnn legal analyst jeffrey toobin joins us with more. was the evidence flimsy on that search warrant >> it certainly wasn't very incriminating. i can give you a little context. so, comey closed the investigation over the summer said there was nothing there. in the fall anthony weiner whom huma abedin's husband is investigated. fbi seize his computer. once they see the computer they also see on the computer e-mails between huma abedin and hillary clinton. so they say okay we want to look into those as perhaps relevant to the investigation that appeared to be closed. so they get a new search warrant for those other emails. >> sounds legit. >> that's what the affidavit is,
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that came out yesterday. >> okay. >> the search warrant. it does seem vaguely legit because you think why not? it's relevant to these investigations. these emails could be relevant. >> they don't even know if they are new. they think these are new emails. >> exactly. i don't think there's anything so outrageous about the fbi looking at these emails. the thing that is bizarre about this whole process is basically i would call this affidavit part of cleaning up loose ends of the investigation. right, of hillary clinton, seeing if there's anything there. why did james comey feel compelled to release the information that they were looking into these everyone males right before the election? that remains bizarre, inappropriate and that's the heart of the matter. >> this search warrant does not reveal what his thinking was in terms of that, why he would send
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the letter. >> right. and, it came out that these emails that were found were not newly incriminating, they were just repeats of emails that fbi had seen. so there was nothing there. >> so in retrospect he should have waited until he knew the contents of what was on the emails to send the letter? >> exactly. or said nothing at all. remember, the rule at the department of justice is on the eve of the election you don't say anything. you don't interfere in the political process. >> you're getting ahead of us. basically if you rewind the tape to the search warrant and why they thought there was something possibly juicy and/or relevant on there, they say it's because they saw subject headers that suggested that there was either from a mrs. clinton's private server or it said something incriminating enough to arouse flags. doesn't that tell -- in other words that tells you, you should get a search warrant.
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>> absolutely. i don't see anything wrong with the fbi investigating what was on the computer, given the fact that they had been investigating mrs. clinton's e-mail for the summer. these might have been new emails. so, the affidavit itself doesn't suggest anything inappropriate. but most of the time law enforcement operates in secrecy. it does not disclose investigative steps especially on the eve of the election. tissue is not the search warrant, it's the disclosure publicly investigation -- >> that's your issue. >> yes. >> but other people's issue that actually the fbi and the judge didn't even have probable cause to issue a search warrant. let me give you and example. this is david kendall, mrs. clinton's lawyer says via "the washington post" the affidavit concedes that the fbi had no basis to conclude.
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the fbi put forward the same evidence that bureau concluded in july was not sufficient to bring case. affidavit offered no additional evidence to support any different conclusion. i think what he's saying is that the judge shouldn't have said that was probable cause. >> about it think he sort of working a little backwards there. he's saying once they looked at the e-mail they saw there was nothing there so what was the whole bother? my point is you only knew there was nothing there once you looked at them. and so i think david kendall -- he's correct that there was nothing there that was incriminating button lie way you could know that is by looking at them. i disagree that the look at them was inappropriate. it's the disclosure that i think is so wildly inappropriate. >> do you disagree that the evidence was flimsy to get a search warrant? >> i don't know about flimsy. in law enforcement circles it's pretty easy to get a search warrant. magistrates who sign these search warrants they are not
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looking for proof of a crime. you know, the standard is, is there probable cause that there's evidence of a crime. that's a pretty low standard. you know, both kendall and fallen are furious because nothing turned up incriminating and b, the disclosure was catastrophic for hillary clinton's campaign. that remains to me the heart of the controversy here is why james comey felt obliterated to broadcast to the world on the eve of the election and this doesn't answer that question. >> thanks for helping us to understand. what is your take out there? tweet us at "new day" or post your comments on facebook.com/"new day". really tough images captured moments after diplomats assassination. cnn spoke to the photographer who took these incredible shots under dramatic circumstances. what was it like to be there?
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lawmakers in north carolina are huddling right now in a
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special session to possibly repeal the state's controversial bathroom law. house bill 2 as it's known has been a lightning rod since the quick passage in march. we have nick valencia live in raleigh with the latest. nick? >> reporter: good morning, chris. there's been no shortage of drama between the two major parties in this state over the course of the last year. it started in february with the charlotte city council passing a nondiscrimination ordinance that gave added protected rights to the lgbt community in the state. conservatives you were furious and as a result called a special session here in raleigh to pass house bill 2, more commonly known as the bathroom bill and what did it not only stripped the rights given to those in charlotte but also statewide. made it illegal for transgender people to use the bathroom of their choice. instead under house bill 2 they had to use the bathroom that corresponds with the gender on their birth certificate.
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what followed was a huge economic blow to the state of north carolina. tons of millions of dollars were lost as concerts were cancelled. and pat the governor in his re-election bid became the first incumbent governor in north carolina history to lose his re-election. that brings us all to this week. on monday charlotte city council voted unanimously to rescind its original ordinance with the hope and expectation that house bill 2 would be repealed sometime late per that brings to us this special session announced on wednesday with the expectation that house bill 2 will be repealed later this afternoon and while there's hope there's a ton of anxiety. last time a special session was called was under the guise of hurricane matthew relief but ended up stripping some of the powers of the incoming governor, a vote on house bill 2 and its repeal is expected sometime later today. thank you for all of that background. who would have thought that that decision, the ripple effect
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would have been millions, tens of millions of dollars in the state's economy. >> who knows how many votes. make no mistake this is entirely a political issue. remember they could present no significant evidence that there was a predator risk that's what it was. could you have a predator go into the girls room under the guise of being transgender. there's no good research on it. but it did loom large and it's a burden for democrats. this bathroom issue became a metaphor for the left, they don't get where we are culturally in america any more and it's interesting to see how it plays out there and beyond. we have a couple of other headlines to tell you about including this important one. the taliban confirming that this new video shows a north american couple kidnapped in afghanistan in 2012. american indicate leadershkatelr canadian husband have been in captivity for four years. she urges president obama to
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secure her family's release. she also addresses president-elect donald trump saying that the taliban will not release them easily. >> the little kid there doesn't even look 4 years old. another kid in the news. the 7-year-old, remember her, tweets from inside aleppo painted the desperation of so many kids. she's now safe in the turkish capital. she met with the president of turkey who thanked for helping her out of that war zone. according to state media 68 kids are among more than 170 aleppo evacuees undergoing treatment in hospitals in turkey. there are many, many more. we have a story of incredible composure. very often what we understand from tragedies because somebody bravely stood by and took pictures. in this case of a cold-blooded assassination. cnn's international diplomatic editor nic robertson spoke with the ap photographer who kept
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taking pictures just feet away from the gunman who assassinated russia's ambassador to turkey. now these images, they are not easy look at but they tell the truth of the situation. >> reporter: new video shows an apparent stunning security lapse, ambassador andrei karlov's killer standing behind him, unchallenged for several minutes before he pulls his gun. >> in the very first photo the gunman was standing behind the ambassador like he was part of the ambassador's staff or somebody from the art gallery. but very calm. >> reporter: that's him moments before the attack taking photos of the ambassador. seconds later ambassador karlov dying on the floor. the gunman shouting defiantly god is greatest and do not
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forget aleppo. do not forget syria but chose not to shoot anyone else. >> people standing in front, they disappeared. they go on the floor. then they try, they were trying to hide them, to take shelter. >> reporter: were you afraid? >> i was shocked but i afraid. not much. not panicked. >> reporter: were you not afraid. you got a camera. he's got a gun. >> i'm very sensitive in difficult situations, i'm calm. i have a responsibility to record it, the event and the ambassador was lying on the ground, not moving, and the guy was making some political motivated speech but i could not understand. i thought maybe he was speaking
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russian. in russian. some people were screaming, crying. then he turned around to the body and at close range he shot one more time. >> reporter: on the ambassador. >> yes. >> reporter: just to make sure he was dead. >> i think so. when i learned the guy was killed i was very shocked. why they killed him? he did nothing, take anybody hostage. he was alone. they had to capture him alive. >> reporter: nic robertson, nn, ankara, turkey. >> that's a fascinating perspective. he says obviously in very tough situations he gets more calm. that's what you need. >> he's been interviewed by someone who is the exact same way, nic robertson knows what it's like to be very close to death. >> what an incredible story. meanwhile donald trump's potential conflicts of interest in the news again.
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his children now distancing themselves from a charity that was reportedly offering access to the president-elect for a million dollars. we'll speak live with the reporter who broke the story next.
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questions about conflicts and the president-elect and his family are not going away.
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this morning, there's a report about a charity event. the event raised concerns. why? because individuals were reportedly being given the opportunity to pay a ton of money for access to donald trump and his family. now, trump transition team is saying the trump family is not involved with the event. joining us now, is a reporter who revealed the details surrounding the event, carrie levine with the center for public integrity. we're also joined by racheal abra abrams, the business reporter for "the new york times" who has reported op the trump kids and their role in the family business. carrie, let's get it straight. what do we know about this? was there an organization that was actually formed? were the kids on it? was there an invitation that had the solicitation? was is real? >> well, this is obviously a fast-developing story. yes, there was a new foundation formed and registered with the state of texas. and both eric trump and donald trump jr. were listed as directors of the new
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organization on the form. there was a -- a pamphlet, a solicitation circulating among donors offering big dollar donor packages for sponsorships that would give them the chance to meet with the newly inaugurated president over inauguration weekend. now, the organizers are saying that information wasn't final, and the trump transition team is distancing donald trump jr. and eric trump from this event. >> have you ever heard of a draft invitation and a concept, meaning that you're listed on this texas document but it didn't mean anything finally? have you ever heard of that in any other situation like this? >> i've never heard of it when it comes to actually filing to create an organization, which is a legal document. they were on that legal document. and it's a little confusing and unclear exactly how their names got on the document and what they did or didn't agree to.
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>> so when we look at this, we look at this in the context of what is unknown about trump, his business operations, and the conflicts between the kids being in charge of the business, and influencing government. this falls right into that category. >> yes. and it's not necessarily that anything -- we know that anything is wrong or anything is amiss. it's just mainly what it is at the very least is an optics problem. when you have, even ostensibly something that is for charity, where you're basically giving people the ability to pay to access the president or his surrogates, which his kids have effectively been during the campaign, you have an issue. and people are going to see that as a potential conflict of interest. >> you have illegality and then you have wrong, right? you have the right to do something and then whether or not it is right. carrie, i'm assuming that it is a second time of perspective that drove your interests into this about whether or not this is the right thing to do, the president-elect saying so many times during the campaign, i don't need the money.
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they can't buy me. i will drain the swamp. this looks like anything but that. this is -- this is, as usual, in an ugly form. >> that's a fair point. and i also think the question is about the standards that the president-elect has set for himself, has set for his administration. he talked a lot on the stump, as you point out, about draining the swamp, and about sort of decrying pay-to-play politics. and saying that he didn't want to give the appearance, as many politicians do, of people buying access to him. and so something like this really raises the question of how he's going to handle this in his administration going forward, and how he's going to set limits on this kind of thing. >> and of course the lack of transparency comes up. now this, rachel, i think you distinguished from what happened last week. there was going to be an auction off for a time with ivanka trump. the proceeds were going to go to
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saint jude's children's hospital. that's different, i suspect, because that's a real charity that does real work and the one that we're talking about around the inauguration is a new charity, you know, that has the beneficiary being something that nobody's ever heard of and has ever believed is real. different situations but do they raise similar questions? >> i certainly think so. and i think people have raised the fact that they in essence raised the issue of people saying to access, again, trump's children, and in the hopes of perhaps getting a message to the president, for example, my colleagues wrote that last week when you had the ivanka situation you had people going on the record, business people, who said that they were interested in sitting for this, talking with ivanka, because they wanted to get a message to her father. and i think that that's where the big issue comes in. >> all right, now, quickly, let's play what newt gingrich just said as a supposed defense of what donald trump should do in this situation. >> you have somebody who is a billionaire, and we have not really dealt with this relative
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scale of wealth in the white house, in some ways, since george washington, who may have been the wealthiest man in the colonies. he also has, frankly, the power of the pardon. it is a totally open power and he could simply set up, i want them to be my advisers, i'd pardon them if anybody finds them to have behaved against the rules. period. >> carrie, your reaction to that statement from newt gingrich about pardoning them in advance. >> i guess that assumes that they've done something that requires a pardon. so i'm not sure exactly the former speaker is suggesting that the children may or may not do. certainly the president does have the power of the pardon. i don't think we've really seen it used in the way that he's suggesting. but i also think that, again, this is a question for the president-elect about how he wants to run his administration, and the pact that he's made with the public who voted for him.
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and also, i think it's really a question about what he said on the stump, and how he wants to structure things that's the standards he sets for himself. >> i think newt gingrich was just suggesting that our next president decides that his kids cannot do anything wrong, by law. which is one of the more bizarre things we've heard. we're trying to check and get some clarification. carrie, rachel, thank you very much for the reporting, perspective. appreciate it. we have new details on the suspect that authorities in germany are trying to track down right now. who is he? what was his motivation? let's get to it. >> authorities now looking for a tunisian national after finding his identity papers inside the truck. >> isis is making this claim that they've inspired this attack but they've also no evidence -- >> treat this as a possible terrorist attack. >> spent 24 hours interrogating the wrong man. >> whoever carried out this
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attack is at large, ampld and dangerous. >> explosions rocking a fireworks market. >> a horrifying scene. nearly three dozen people killed. that death toll could continue to rise. >> investigators are trying to determine what went wrong. >> this is "new day" with chris cuomo and alisyn camerota. >> good morning, welcome to your "new day." it is wednesday, december 21st. 8:00 in the east. breaking news out of germany. investigators believe the tunisian man they're looking for in connection with monday's terror attacks is linked to a pro-isis network. >> and the terror group is claiming that it inspired the attack that killed those twelve people and injured dozens more. >> ham la gorani is live in beryl be. >> we are learning from security sources as you mentioned there
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that a tunisian national born in 1992, 24, 25 years old, is sought in connection with the troshl atrocity that happened in that market square behind me. a truck plowing into the christmas market killing 12 people including on individual in the cab of the truck. authorities believe he is linked to an isis network operating inside this country, the leader arrested and charged with terrorism offenses already. so it is a race against the clock to try to find this man. an urgent manhunt under way across germany. authorities telling cnn they are now looking for a tunisian national born in 1992. officials believe he may be connected to monday's deadly attack after finding his identity papers inside the truck. the desperate search

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