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yes, john. the authorities have, are staging a nationwide manhunt. hundreds of police are involved in that, and, yes, this was the man they believe was in that truck that crashed into the christmas market. you can see over there -- they've turned the lights back on, as a matter of fact. a big surprise. i might update you, too, we're in the middle of a demonstration here. these are the counterdemonstrators against the far right demonstrators who are on the other side. there's just a handful of far-right demonstrators. on this side is much, much bigger. they are chanting against them. they are chanting against hate. they're chanting against nazism. you have, as you can see, there's a sea of these little hand bills printed out with a heart saying that -- love is more important than what these others are preaching.
so it is very interesting to show. significant showing many, many more people here turning out than the small group of far-right demonstrators on the other side, protected by a huge police cordon to protect and -- pretend to protect and prevent there from being any kind of a con conflict now. at the moment it is peaceful. we see another, a heart, a big heart up there in the air saying, "solidarity, not hate." if you can see that. they're chanting very, very loudly. we hope it stays peaceful, but they don't always stay peaceful. i've been in this city seven years and know sometimes it breaks out and we hope it stays peaceful. we'll keep an eye on it for you, john. >> obviously, no doubt police presence there to help with keeping things calm, but also because there is a killer who was on the loose right now. chris, let me read you information about the warning we're getting from the german federal prosecutors office
issuing a wanted notice for a man named anus ambri, offering 100,000 euros. height, 5'8", weighs approximately 165 pounds. and this notice, warns people she violent and armed. again, that's significant because of what's going on behind you with hundreds on the streets demonstrating. talking politics, talking security, but there's a manhunt under way. >> reporter: yes. absolutely. a huge, much larger police presence in this city and in other cities to prevent there from being any kind of other attack. they say, yes, this suspect is most likely armed and very dangerous. he's a very big man. he actually -- he actually had beaten that very, very large polish truck driver, who he hijacked to bring that truck and
crash that into the market here. they fought each other. he beat him. beat him and shot him to death. this is a very, very dangerous man. he's also facing an assault charge that he didn't show up in court for. he's facing deportation. he was applying for assume lum a asylum, was rejected and links to elements trying to recruit others. a very, very dangerous man. he's out on the loose. that is what the manhunt is all about tonight. john? >> chris burns in berlin where demonstrations are taking place behind him even amidst breaking news. 100,000 euros for information leading to the capture of this man. isis is claiming responsibility for this attack saying that this attacker is a soldier of the islamic state, which often means inspired by, rather than specifically directed by, isis. but we can't be sure. joining us now, an international security director for the asian-pacific foundation. and, again, we just got this
wanted notice from the german federal prosecutors office. 24 years old, a 100,000 euro reward for now 48 hours after the fact. they had the wrong guy in custody the first 24 hour, but now it does seem german officials are asking the public for help? >> well, it illustrates i suppose how desperate the situation is. because this is an individual that carried out a devastating mass casualty attack. he potentially may not even be in germany. there's talk about a european-wide manhunt for him and germany's part of the zone champion allows travel across several european countries without needing to prove i.d. it may become a bigger problem than just confined to one country. >> and, of course, there are questions, because this man was known to authorities. he was known and apparently turned down for asylum, which could put german officials up for serious criticism and in fact we're seeing demonstrations on the streets of berlin tonight. >> unfortunately, john, this
case is too typical of what we're seeing in germany. a whole host of plots and small-scale attacks this year in germany involving individuals that have either been recent migrants or failed alsylum seekers, carrying out attacks fon t upon the germans. germany is startinged, sustained effort to recruit and radicalize individuals. not necessarily trained by the group but motivated by the ideology and virtually downloading information. marketplaces, germany, berlin, and seeing it replicated in a deadly effect. >> i don't know if you can see it now, we have a picture of this suspect, our first look at this image of amri, anis amri,
offering a 100,000 euro reward leading to his arrest warning he is armed and violent and an urgent manhunt is under way as we speak. born in tunisia, a part of this wave of immigrants and from other countries refugees leaving certain countries and coming to europe, especially germany, over the last several years, and it is the part of a very heated political debate inside that country right now. >> very much so. angela merkel, with the best of intentions, with humanity and decency let in over 100 million migrants. unfortunately others have come into the country that have not proved their identity, have actually used fraudulent identification purchased on the black market. we knee last week a 12-year-old boy of iraqi extraction was planning to carry out nail bomb attacks at a marketplace in
ludwig, and another incident in the summer an individual pretending to be an afghan, actually a pakistani afghan carried out a stabbing on the trains. these incidents will only be - exploited further by isis and in the case of tunisia, they're contributed the number of most foreign nationals for isis and tunisia is very much a hub for tear original and perhaps in an eerie similarity, the attack in berlin carried out by amri, draw similarities to the nice attack also involving a vehicle and that plotter was also a tunisian. may about coincidence but we're seeing similarities in the attacks across europe. >> certainly very similar in the way they were carried out. thanks for being with us. appreciate it. >> thank you. and happening now, a search for answers after a deadly explosion ripped through a popular fireworks market in mexico.
you see the pictures of the explosion, explosion after explosion of the blast itself. also new pictures today of the aftermath. 31 people now confirmed dead inside these explosions. that death toll, that number, just rising this morning. people in neighboring towns reported they could feel the ground tremble as the fireworks stalls exploded. the incident took place about 25 mimes north of mexico city. authorities and families are scrambling at this hour to find missing loved ones. cnn sara sidner joins us live from the site of the explosion. what are you seeing? >> reporter: this is a market known for pyrotechnics, people come just for the fireworks. that's what's in the 300 stalls that were here. all of a sudden, most of them gone after explosion after explosion after explosion. look at what's happening right now pap large number of people.
you may be able to just see as jordan zooms in to those images there, that is where you can see many of the army and those guys in white are forensics, going in and looking, and we've noticed they've been sort of concentrated in that area for quite some time. they're looking through the rubble. what they are likely looking for is, a., they are trying to make sure there are no more charred remains inside of this devastated area here that's about the size of a football field, and, b., trying to figure out how exactly this fire started. where did the explosions begin? we understand from authorities that it began with about six explosions, in succession, and then it just took off from there. one after the other after the other, and went on for a very long time. you just showed some of those incredible video caught on tape bypasserby passing by while
it was happening. how powerful this was, we are looking at chunks are concrete near the fence, and as my fra photographer pans down, you will see those chunks. that is from a building. the explosion so strong they blew apart the concrete buildings that held these explosives and fireworks and sent that flying, not only there but across the road. there were pebbles, also big chunks's concrete coming at people and a time when the market was full. this was christmastime. people have is a tradition of blowing off fireworks during christmas. you had mothers and fathers children and aunts and uncles leer and now we understand there's a family that is still looking for their small child. not knowing where that child is. there are also three children who were so severely burned they had to be medevac'd out of here and taken to galveston, texas. >> thank you so much, sara sidner. this just in.
queen elizabeth and prince philip postponed their trip. told they both have heavy colds. we don't know if they plan to leave later or cancelling the trip altogether. joining us from outside buckingham palace, ian, the queen is 90 years old. her husband's 95. what are you learning? >> reporter: that's right, john. that's the reason people are watching her health so closely, because she is 90 years old. her husband is 95. but buckingham palace is downplaying this right now, and they're not saying if this trip is cancelled or if it's postponed. not giving us any real details about that, and it's not likely they'll give us many more updates about her health, but she is still quite very active for someone in her 90s. she is showing signs of slowing down a bit, handing 25 of over 600 charities she's patron of to other members of the royal
family. but still, keeping quite a public presence for the people. she is known to have said being seen is being believed. so she is quite adamant about staying in the public eye, john. >> no doubt. but this will make news today. news of the cold and cancelled trip, coming 24 hours after she did withdraw from charities she had been sharing. new information about security around buckingham palace today, obviously concern about what's happening in berlin and ankara as well? >> reporter: that's right, john, and this extra security is going to be around the changing of the guard which happens every other day here in the winter. at buckingham palace. there's a lot of concern about what happened in berlin could, and in nice, france, could happen here as well. you have trucks running into large crowds, and this ramped up security isn't just for here. this is going to be going into christmas as well as new year's celebration. a lot of extra alert because of what has been happening around
the rest of europe. >> ian lee outside buckingham palace. thanks so much, ian. next, new people detained in connections to the assassination of the russian ambassador to turkey. a new video of the chilling moments just before the killer fired the shots. plus, breaking news. russia now says that nearly all dialogue with the united states is "frozen." what's the message behind that? and -- president-elect donald trump talking about the election that he won. saying his electoral college win was more sophisticated than winning the popular vote. (vo) it's the holidays at verizon, and the best deals are on the best network. with no surprise overages, you can use your data worry free and even carry over the data you don't use.
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russian ambassador to turkey. the turkish police officer who killed diplomat aundndrey karlo. he showed official police i.d. and was allowed to pass through. in this new video you can see the assassin standing right behind the ambassador for several minutes before he ultimately pulls out the gun. he looks like maybe he could be part of the ambassador's staff. perhaps someone from the gallery, but moments later, everyone would come to learn that was not the case at all. nic robertson spoke to the associated press photographer taking pictures of this before, during and immediately after the attack. >> i heard shot, very loud. [ gunfire ] bam, bam, bam. i said, what happened? horrible. so the people standing in front,
they disappeared. they -- throw them on the floor, and then -- they tried -- they were trying to hide them, to take shelter. >> were you afraid? >> i was shocked, but -- i afraid, but not much. >> you're not afraid? you've got a camera. he's got a gun. >> well -- in difficult situations, i'm calm. i have a responsibility to record it. and no matter what, lying on the ground. not moving, and the guy wasn't -- making some -- political motivating speech, but i could not understand. i said maybe the speaker russian. in russian. some people were screaming, crying. so i could not hear well. then he turned, turned around
the body, and from there from close range he shot one more time. >> on the ambassador. >> yes. >> just to make sure he was dead. >> i think so. when i learned that the guy was killed, i was really shocked. why they killed him? he did nothing. didn't take anybody hostage. he was alone. they have to capture him alive. >> they could have done it. >> i don't know. i don't know what is behind, reason what is behind. we do have breaking news. russia is saying nearly all levels of dialogue with the united states, frozen. a kremlin spokesperson says, "we do not talk to each other, or we do it at a minimum." senior international correspondent matthew chance joins us from moscow. what are you thinking? >> reporter: a scathing characterization of the state of
the relationship between washington and moscow in these last few weeks of the obama administration. of course, over the past couple of years, the two countries, the two former cold war rivals, have really fallen out over a range of issues. like the war in syria being the most important, perhaps. russia and the united states on opposite sides of that conflict. nato expansion. russia has been complaining heavily about the continued military presence of nato forces very close to, or on its borders. of course, the situation in crimea. russia annexed crimea from ukraine in 2014, and the u.s. then imposed sanctions on russia in response to that. so there's been this whole range of issues that has pushed this relationship virtually back to cold war levels, and, you know, that's what this kremlin spokesman, the main spokesperson for vladimir putin, was talking about. saying that, as you just mentioned, that nearly all leveling of dialogue now are frozen. we don't talk to each other, will do so only as a minimum.
of course that might change when donald trump becomes president in a couple of weeks' time. for the moment, the relationship is pretty bad. >> according to both the president-elect and the kremlin it will change on january 20th. matthew chance, thank you so much. next, newt gingrich says donald trump is getting rid of one of his "cute phrases." a phrase he used in the campaign to win the white house. plus -- bill o'reilly under fire for saying liberals want to take power away from "the white establishment." even though he's already won the election, trump is weighing in on the electoral college fight.
donald trump aides now tell us he is receiving his classified presidential daily briefing today which is interesting because they would not tell us yesterday whether he did receive it following the terror attacks that happened in berlin as well as inside turkey. the president-elect this morning still finding time to tweet about the electoral college writing, campaigning to win the electoral college is much more difficult and sophisticated than the popular vote. hillary clinton focused on the wrong states. now hillary clinton ended up with nearly 3 million more votes than the president-elect, but donald trump was the clear winner in the electoral college. as for the electoral college, bill ao'reilly has controversial ideas. the push to abolish it is about one thing. >> the left in america is demanding the electoral college system put into place 1787, that it be scrapped.
a hidden reason for this. believing this is all about race. the white sees white privilege as an oppressive force that must be done away with. therefore, white working class voters must be marginalized, sum it up, left wing power taken away from the establishment, want a profound change in the way america is run. taking voting power away from the white precincts is the quickest way to do that joining us, director under president reagan and a big donald trump supporter jeffrey lorde and with us, former executive director of the congressional black caucus. jeffrey, just heard the comments from bill o'reilly, do you agree? conspiracy? i can understand complain about hillary clinton not winning, but i'm not sure there's a racial
conspiracy. >> i'm not sure there's a racial conspiracy, per se. i am sure the democratic party since its inception has been a party of race. a culture of racism within the democratic party been there since the get-go. this is the party of slavery, segregati segregation, now illegal immigration by skin color. obsessed with race. this is what they do. >> jeffrey, on the idea of the electoral college, right? do you think -- the questions raised about the electoral college in the last month, do you believe they are exclusively about race? what bill o'reilly claimed? >> no, no, no. i don't think they're about race. i think they're about more or less conservatives, and working folks, regardless of their color. i think the democratic party has the same disdain for the average black or hispanic person as they do for the average white person. i mean, they've become a party of rich, liberal elites. that's their problem here. they carried -- right here, carried my home state of pennsylvania, which has a
substantial black population in philadelphia. they just didn't want to turn out for the democratic candidate. that's the problem. >> and angela, a chance to respond both to what jeffrey said and also to bill arilo'rei. your reaction? >> deal with bill o'reilly specifically because i've asked jeffrey repeatedly not to use this line of thinking. i don't understand where it comes from. we know that racism in this country is a bipartisan and a non-partisan issue. it has nothing whatsoever to do with party. and we know that a republican party, that they, how it is. martin luther king i have a dream party, never existed. i think it's hogwash. as it relates to bill o'reilly i will tell you plain and simply is this -- the electoral college is problematic from its inception, and something that was built upon and designed to oppress certain people, whether through intent or by impact has to
change. i think what you're seeing are folks who thanks to bernie sanders, thanks even to donald trump, for being a more of a populist type of candidate, to cause us to really begin to question some things that may have existed from the beginning of time. from the inception of america. that does not make the thing right. if we say that we are a country where it's one person, one vote, it needs to be one person, one vote. search not talking about overhauling the electoral college in its entirety but talking about proposals to reshape the way in which it's done. maybe it shouldn't be winner take all. we have states, of course, in congressional districts that do just that. i think that it is okay for us to ask questions particularly when we know the electoral college was built upon a system to protect the interests of slave states. that was a part of the compromise and we would be remiss if we did not acknowledge that horrible history. >> jeffrey? >> well, yeah, i mean, the electoral college, remember the name of the country.
the name of the country is the united "states" of america. and that famous quote from benjamin franklin emerging from the constitutional convention and a woman asked him, you know blash what have you given us franklin, dr. franklin, he replied a republic, ma'am, if you can keep it. it is not a direct reason we h >> i will say along those lines, the electoral college, electors themselves, as alexander hamilton helped create them, intended to be a buffer between the people and ultimately the government. so they could in the original constructer's eyes vote their conscience, something that is different than happens now. the whole thing, it's a long, long time ago. i understand your point on that. let me ask you about something another supporter of donald trump has said. newt gingrich. he was speaking and he apparently says that donald trump no longer wants to use
some of the phrases that he used during the campaign. specifically, drain the swamp. this is what the former speaker said. he said, i'm told he now just disclaims that he now says it was cute but doesn't want to use it anymore. angela, no more draining the swamp? good riddance you say? >> it's hard to drain the swamp when you are putting -- putting more swamp infested people into said swamp. i think the reality of it is, donald trump never intended to fulfill this promise. there are so many others he didn't intend to fulfill. he talked about not locking her up after all. he's talked about, you know, of course i put rich people in my cabinet. they're going to fight for you, because they know how to get rich. what? i mean, there are all of these things that he's continuing to promulgate and say i think is a problem. donald trump is someone who will use something because it was hot. what he said about draining the swamp. also indicating he's not afraid to drop it, like it's hot.
>> on the subject of the swamp, jeffrey lord, there are stories over the last 24 hours and one last week about ivanka trump. donald trump's children connected possibly, allegedly to some of these charities trying to raise money by granting access to them around the inauguration. isn't that part of this swamp? that at least donald trump formally wanted drained? >> oh i think it's fairly typical for all presidential inaugurations that i've been involved with. >> swamp -- >> atypical. >> i went to my first fwhun high school for richard nixon in 1969. they had all sorts of parties for major donors and that sort of thing. that's fairly typical. >> compare your guy to richard nixon? that's not good for him! >> well i mean, they did this for lbj and jfk and on and on. don't forget, long after the inaugural was over for bill
clinton he was selli ining acceo the lincoln bedroom. >> talking about, you are -- >> supposed to be somebody different, jeffrey. >> is this type of access for a donation of a half million dollars which is what this story alleged -- >> i think we have to get beyond the inaugural and see how this works. i have every belief he's going to quote/unquote drain the swamp. he's got lobbying legislation i'm sure he'll pursue on this with varying bans on people and accepting foreign money, working in government and then going out through the revolving door and becoming a lobbyist, et cetera. i have every belief he's going to attend to that again, hasn't told us how he will separate his business practices. canceled that press conference. i will go on your faith, jeffrey lord. thank you both so much. >> thank you. >> thanks, john. thanks, angela. new video surchsi insurfaci football player punching a woman in the face. hear what he told police about
why he did it. plus, more on our breaking news. germany just release add picture of the berlin terror suspect. new details about his past and a 100,000 euro reward for any information leading to his capture. new information on this urgent manhunt. that's coming up. d quads. (laughter) we're in 8th grade. technology is the only thing that really entertains us. i'm gonna use this picture on sketchbook, and i'm going to draw mustaches on you all. using the pen instead of fingers, it just feels more comfortable for me. be like, boop! it's gone. i like that only i can get into it and that it recognizes my fingerprint. our old tablet couldn't do that. it kind of makes you feel like you're your own person, which is a rare opportunity in my family. (laughter)
all right. breaking news. the german federal prosecutors office just released a wanted notice for this man. 24-year-old anis amri wanted in connection with the attack on the berlin christmas market that killed 12 people. they say he is violent, armed and dangerous and are offering a huge reward for any information
leading to his arrest. go straight to berlin an bring in cnn hala gorani. hala? >> reporter: right. very significant information coming out from the prosecutor's office. also we are seeing a warrant, a be on the lookout alert, if you will, from french authorities circulated to all european police stations, including authorities here in germany. you mentioned there they are saying the man, the suspect the man is anis amri, tunisian born in 1992, stopped in europe with a fake i.d. trying to make his way to italy. ay plied for asylum and it was denied in june of this year. according to the interior minister, where essentially we believe this man resided for several months after he entered germany in july of 2015. this was a highly mobile individual who was known to security service here, and he
was considered a risk. just to set the scene for you, though. you may be wondering what's going on behind me. it now a couple days after the horrific attack on monday, and we're seeing demonstrations from very far right-leaning groups. a party named the ndp, and anti-immigration party that's come out to protest against angela merkel, the chance lerp poli chancellor's policy allowing refugees from namely syria and iraq, but many, many more people near a counterdemonstration trying to drown out those voices holding up pieces of paper with red hearts, playing their own music. ordinary citizens and anti-fascist parties, what they call themselves, parties. they're still on the lookout searches for a man armed and dangerous. a national conversation on a much smaller scale of exactly what they need to do going
forward to keep themselves safe and to remain in a free and open society. john? >> an important political discussion now in the middle of a manhunt for 24-year-old man we now have a picture of. asking the public for nhelp in finding him. thanks very much. a university of oklahoma football player explains to police why he punch add woman at a restaurant in 2014. a warning, what you're about to see is pretty jarring. amelia moll iter walked into a restaurant. joe mixon enters. she pushes him. slaps him across the face and mixon punches her so hard she falls to the ground. ed lavandera joins me from dallas. what did mixon tell police? >> reporter: that is the new video emerging not only with this surveillance video from the restaurant, this incident happened back in 2014. but it is just now coming to light.
so -- molliter, the woman in the video suffered multiple broken bones in her face and has file add civil lawsuit against mixon. mixon says it all started, he felt being disrespected when ms. molliter blew cigarette smoke in this face. entered the restaurant and molliter told police one of her friends used a racial slur against him, when she pushed him and he leveled the brutal blow on her that ended up breaking several bones in her face. you can listen to a little of that interrogation video, just recently released as well. >> then she came in my anyways face. i put my head down. she swung on me. after that i was so shocked because she hit me so hard. it felt like a dude hit me. after that, my face, it's like, boom. my reaction was right there. >> now, john, this happened back in 2014. mixon did not serve any
jailtime. charged with a misdemeanor and put on a year's worth of probation. the university of oklahoma says that it was made aware of the content of the video back then, and that that's why he was suspended for the 2014 football season. but mixon has played the last two seasons and is already now preparing to play in the sugar bowl on january 2nd with the university of oklahoma. john? >> ed lavandera, thanks so much. right now, lawmakers in north carolina are supposed to start voting on whether to repeal the controversial bathroom law there. but we're just getting word there is a hangup. we'll take you there. plus -- new today, israel's ambassador to the united states agrees with donald trump about moving the u.s. embassy to jerusalem. details on that just ahead. thope to see you again soon.. whoa, whoa, i got this. just gotta get the check. almost there.
poised on whether or not to rebeal the bathroom law. requires transgender people to use the restroom corresponding to their birth certificate. companies including paypal and deutsche bank said it would cancel plans, musicians canceled concerts and the ncaa moved tournaments from the state. in north carolina now for the late effort on vote and joining us, senior writer for "the federalest" mary katharine ham. what's going on there, nick. >> reporter: good morning, john. the morning started with fireworks here on the senate floor, or house of representatives i should say with one of the representatives jeff collins standing up in protest to the special session saying there is no extraordinary reason they should be here. anything that happens should be null and void, voted no on the
rebiehl peel. directly after recess i caught up with him and asked why he stood up to protest? >> i wanted to see what the reasoning was behind your protest. >> you don't think this is constitutional? >> no extraordinary occurrence. >> and the response by, you know, a figurehead here, did that change your mind? >> he thought the rules can fine. i agree. the rules are fine, but we're here on constitutional. >> are you planning on voting no against the repeal? >> planning on voting no on anything done here because it's all in the constitution. >> the hangup is apparently representatives lie jeff collins. ten core members on the republican party house chambers side unwilling to caucus with the rest of their party. republicans refusing to get to on either floor until there's a majority. reported this week there was a deal worked out between two parties. the democrats rescinding their
ordinance in charlotte in order to make way for the state-run republican legislature to repeal house bill 2. we anticipated a vote by mid-day. we're still waiting. >> nick, stand by. mary katharine ham, if this repeal is passed, i suppose we don't know for sure, but the end of an incredibly tumultuous chapter in north carolina of politically, really, topsy-turvy that might have as well cost the republican governor his job there? >> i'm not sure it will be the end of it. partly, yes, the governor loss, but the super majorities are republican in both houses in north carolina. they remain, many, supported hb2 and feel they're not comfortable saying to constituents i'm going to reverse. they thought they had a deal. remains to see if they do. perhaps everyone would accept a truce to stop talking about north carolina bathrooms as if they were the biggest problem in the world.
they were not a problem before. legislature saying we're not sure you have the authority to do that. some aren't comfortable about the whole idea. rethink it. then a giant fight, an economic boycott orchestrateed by many on the left and many in north carolina were like, hey, i'm not actually cool with the grenade lobbing in the culture war. can we quit with the bathroom stuff? that's why donald trump partly won north carolina. the governor paid the price for hb2, but not many paid the price. many in north carolina are like, why are we talking about this and why is it so urgent? >> mixed signals. probably did cost the governor his job or the way it was handled increased his popularity. and donald trump did win and majority in the legislature from where you sit from the aisle, conservative righter, is or was this a fight worth having? >> i think probably it did not
do the state a ton of good. i also think that it doesn't do sort of civility that much good when the charlotte -- this wasn't was an aggression by the charlotte authority. many it questions about it. many folks voted trump because of, it is this message from the cultural tlaeft sayleft that sa have any questions about this sort of radical way we're doing things in the society, you're a hater, and you will shut up now. that kind of cultural bullying led people to look to frankly another cultural bull any donald trump willing to stand up against it, and i don't think it's particularly great for society if we keep having battles in this way. it's not just the right that answers for that. the left has to answer as well. >> battles, i think some people on the left, mary katherine saying a discussion about the rights of a minority or
transgender rights is a discussion worth having. >> i am perfectly willing to have a discussion mip think often we are not actually doing that at all. >> we're not discussing a lot in this country sometimes these days, mary containikatherine, b are on this show. thank you to you both. new today, israel's ambassador to the united states endorsed one of donald trump's campaign promises, involving the status of the u.s. embassy in israel. specifically, whether the u.s. embassy should be moved to jerusalem instead of tell vooerc aviv, where it is right now. promised to move it fairly quickly, his words. and similar promise was made during similar campaigns did not follow through once they reached the white house. cnn global affairs analyst joining me from washington. you know very well this has been a political discussion for decades. specifically since 1995 when
congress pass add bill to move the embassy to jerusalem. president after president since that time, every six months, weighed this saying we're not going to do it right now. you say it's a bad idea, basically from a negotiating standpoint. explain why. >> it's not just that, john. having advised secretary of state, presidents of both parties, when it came to moving the embassy, my advise always the same. simply, don't. in large part, because both republicans and democrats could not divide a compelling american national tlaeft would somehow outweight the down sides and risks of doing so. and i suspect that certainly is my view today. there are negative consequences. clearly, the peace process is comatose right now but i think moving the embassy to jerusalem is going to remove any fiction, or illusion in large measure it's stale live.
arab states, particularly saudis, at time when israelis are moving closer to the egyptians, saudis, it injects tension. how bad the reaction would be, how dire the set of circumstances that would result, unclear. the bottom line, though, john, is very clear. you have to identify -- for any change in policy, why it benefits's united states. on this one, even though i understand 9 logic and rationale on the issue and many american jews and christian evangelical, i don't think that outweighs the po terrible risk. >> you say jerusalem eternal capital of israel, that doesn't outweigh the politic issues, the losses you endure from moving it to jerusalem. is that correct? >> yeah, look, be clear. the israelis deserve a capital in west jerusalem. the fact is, probably the only state in which we do not have an embassy in the preferred location of the host government.
we maintain an embassy in the hague, even though the capital of the netherlands is amsterdam, but in expanding municipal borders of the city, in annexing it, imposing sovereignty over the entire city, israelis basically claimed the city in its entirety and that i think is, is a position that is going to have severe repercussions, both with respect to palestinians, maybe violence, and certainly in the arab world. again, i don't want to create the next to that somehow this is going to cause a regional conflagration. the middle east is melting down because of many different issues. you have to identify why? where is the compelling interest outweighing conceivable risks and damps. the trump administration after january 20 i think comes to this
realization, that's not clear. they'll take a look. >> expertise and take advantage of your international expertise here on the issue of russia and the statement we got from the kremlin spokesperson saying relations with the united states are essentially frozen. he said we don't talk nearly at all or barely and only when we need to. essentially it may be an admission what the facts are right now which is the relationship is at a low point? >> it is indeed. and mr. putin projecting his power both in crimea, ukraine and syria has clearly demonstrated that russia will act, even over and above objections and a period of frosty, quote/unquote, cold war relations, with the united states. but that notion of frozen context that can't possibly endure. certainly under the next administration, that wants to test the proposition that, in fact, you can engage profitably, and in a way that benefits american interests, mr. putin
will have to see about that one, john. >> doesn't look like the frosty relations will endure if you listen to what the president-elect and vladimir putin says. they say they look forward to warm relations an january 20th. always great to you have on. thanks so much. >> thank you, john. intense manhunt underway in germany for the man responsible for the horrific attack there. new details emerging about the man who drove a truck into holiday shoppers. also considered a threat by police. authorities just releasing these images offering a very big reward for information leading to his arrest. we have new details, right after a quick break.
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blitzer. wherever you're watching from around the world, thank you so much for joining us. starting with new information on the man suspected of killing 12 people in a berlin christmas market attack. police have named a 24-year-old tu tunisian as the suspect, his name, anis amri. a six-figure reward leading to his capture. he is reported dangerous and armed. he was already considered a threat. cnn terrorist expert in london with us, and our correspondent. what do we know about this suspect and the efforts by police to find him? >> anis amri entered germany about a year ago and applied for asylum. he's from tunisia. gone through the asylum process, was denied