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atmosphere and hit a target. >> now the challenge for the u.s. intelligence community is to find out when they cross that line. >> "outfront" with kate baldwin starts right. now. >> next, breaking news. actress carrie fisher, best known as princess leia is dead at the aim of 60: larry king is with me at as we honor a legend. and mall hay hem. massive brawls at malls across america. are they coordinated? and 21 girls kidnapped from their school held captive more than two years. tonight we follow their emotional journey home. let's go "outfront." good evening everyone. i'm kate baldwin.
"outfront" tonight. breaking news. carrie fisher has died. suffering a cardiac arrest on a flight from london to the u.s. she had been in london filming a third series of a comedy series. she was in intensive care all weekend. earlier today her daughter issued a statement through her publicist saying "it is with very deep sadness that he beloved mother california passed away at 8:55 this morning." harrison ford issued "carrie was one of a guy. she lived her life brafly. we'll all miss her. -- bravely. "in "star wars" she was our great and powerful princess n a role that was more difficult than most people might think" said george lucas.
how are begafans reacting tonig? >> sad, somber but also smiling when they remember carrie fisher. and one a aspiring actress saying she was so happy that she was a strong woman off screen and a strong woman on screen. it was carrie fisher as princess leia who stood up to the ultimate sexist pig jab the hut. >> i should expect you do -- >> reporter: california be >> carrie fisher best known as princess leia in "star wars" has died. according to tmz she was on a ventilate ter entire time she was hospitalized, never regaining consciousness. she's seen here in an audition tape with co-star harrison ford. critics pointed to the strong chemistry between fisher and ford. and with good reason. fisher recently revealed she and ford were off-screen lovers.
>> forty years? >> forty years i thought i'd wait. >> so you were having an affair with harrison ford. >> i was? >> well you say it. >> yes i did. >> how did that stay a secret for forty years. >> i was good at that wasn't i. >> reporter: born in beverly hills. >> i was primarily brought up my by mother, but i saw mathiew father. >> in all manner of self medication, including taking pills to control her emotions. >> any mood stabilizer is a weight gainer. so you feel better but you are fat. so what you gain is a loss. it is not a good situation. >> she spoke about being bipolar. and married in the eighties. years later giving birth to a
daughter. she debuted in the ak4r5i78d film "shampoo." in between the "star wars" movies she landed a number of meat advertise roles. in soap dish, and when harry met sally. >> someone is staring at you in personal growth. >> but nothing would, could or perhaps should loom larger on screen than fisher in "star wars.." >> she was extraordinary? >> do you like the princess? >> i have her over sometimes. she's a little bitchchy, you know. >> carrie fisher was 60. >> as the sun starteds to set heer here, the force is dark here. >> "outfront" now, larry king,
host of larry king now. larry can you hear me? >> reporte . >> caller: i hear you fine, kate. >> you have known carrie fisher for decades. you have interviewed her several times. how you will remember her larry? >> caller: oh she was so many things. she was bravely honest, devoted herself to helping other people. hysterically funny. i had some occasions with carrie, in addition to interviewing her. one time we had -- carrie stephenson who still works at cnn, my wife and i threw a big birthday for her at spago's here in beverly hills and had about eight or ten people and worked at cnn. and we gave this party for carrie stephenson. and spago made a cake happy birthday carrie. and they get a little mixed up.
and they present the cake to carrie and a friend. and carrie doesn't want them to feel bad so she blows out the candle. and they box the cake and taking it home. and someone tells her and they come over the her table. it was a riot. and then we had a roast in 2008 or 9 in atlanta honoring jane's foundation which helped to protect pregnancy and dangerouses. and on the deious. and she was the funniest of them all. she was hysterical. extraordinary talent. she was a script doctor. so you didn't see her name on a
lot of her famous she helped make. she was a tremendous talent. it is a great loss. >> i want to play for our viewers, larry a little more of the interview we heard a moment ago that you had with her back in '87 and you talked to her about "star wars," about that iconic role of priss layia. listen. >> you did like the script. >> it was tremendous. >> why? >> it was tremendous. all that stuff you saw on the screen was described beautifully. it was really descriptive. and you really could visualize it. i just never seen anything like that. >> do you like the princess? >> i have her over sometimes. she's a little bitchy, you know. >> i love her quick wit. that is how she was at all moments it seemed. that role it defined her life, of course. do you get the sense of that? >> it was what it was. in other words it did make her
famous, world famous. she appeared in another "star wars" movie. she's coming out in another next year. her scenes were all filmed. a tremendous success in many areas, in writing, in books. the daughter of two famous people. i knew eddie pretty well too. and i think she was very proud of it. she loved the film. the sad part was the bipolar. and that -- that also what it was. she tried to help a lot of other people. that was a sad part of her. she brought forward a great deal of attention to it. she was extraordinarily honest. there was no cutoff. if you asked her a question, she answered it. like if she was honest in the book about harrison ford. that is the way carrie will be remembered. she'll -- i don't know anyone who didn't really, really like her and admire her talent.
>> and one of the more impressive qualities that you just touched on was how open she was about living with bipolar disorder and also her struggles with addiction. with depression. you talked about that with her as well. here it is. watch. >> i didn't like illegal drugs. i like legal drugs. i like the philosophy of it. you are going to feel better when you take two or eight of these. and i liked to feel better. and one of the side effects of the percodan was euphoria. and i thought i could easily live with that. doesn't matter that the rest of the effects to follow that's the palpitations, and death. i couldn't get over euphoria. >> even show she was talking something serious, she never
seemed to take herself so seriously. >> caller: she pointed out. that legal drugs. they help a lot of people. they help people in pain. they also make you addictive. but as she said they also bring you euphoria. and what is wrong with euphoria. that is its attraction. so that is one of the great problems with precipitation drugs is, it is, to those who take it initially it is a blessing. first to relieve pain. then for euphoria, which is the opposite of depression. and then of course you become addicted. and she was very open on -- there wasn't anything she wasn't honest about. a marriage to paul simon. her feelings towards her mother. her feelings towards her father. she was -- she was carrie fisher. she was what she was. and she'll be sorely missed. she was a -- she was a dazzling hollywood person. >> larry, appreciate you always. thank you so much for coming on and sharing your thought.
>> caller: my pleasure. >> i want to brick in now nischelle turner. and jim --. guy, great to see you. nischelle. carrie fisher did an early with rolling stone, it was just last month when she was asked if she feared death. and here is her response. she said no. i fear dying. anything associated -- anything with pain associated with it. i don't like it. i've been there for a couple of people when they were dying. it didn't look like fun. but if i was going to do it, i'd want someone like me around. and i will be there. it seems classic carrie fisher. >> absolutely. >> she was a role model to so many. how is hollywood responding to her passing. >> if you think about it and if you think about the conversations had in hollywood right now. about gender equality. wage gap. all of those things. female empowerment. and strong characters that are women on screen, carrie fisher
for my generation and a lot of us was that figure growing up. princess leia was that figure because yes she was a woman and pretty and feminine but she was a feminists. she was a bad ass. she was strong, she was powerful. she took over that movie. it was supposed to be han solo and luke skywalker's movie. but we remember leia. lot of people speaking out. saying you will be missed. and the force is with you. it is dark today. but also saying "thank you" a lot. thank you for being the role model, thank you for being the strong woman. thank you for speaking out about things that were considered taboo and making it okay to be flawed. to be different.
she did a lot of these those things. especially women in hollywood. >> nischelle was talking about her being tough in "star wars." and you think about that one scene where she's in this bikini being held captive by ja baa the hut. and she said to george lucas you got to be kidding. i'm in a bikini. but she got to kill jab baa the hut. i spent the day with her once. he spent the day shooting a special for cnn. we were in different rooms of her house. and there was nothing that was off limits. she would talk. she said something to me that was fascinating. she felt like a person with her nose up against a window at the bakery. but she was the bread. that meant everybody was looking at her. her whole life, as the child of two hollywood stars. >> we have that clip. let's play that clip for our viewers. >> if you are that little child being posed with your famous parents and you feel that
somehow people are seeing into the a private life, you have allowed much greater access. >> but, you know, it is another way of controlling it. because if someone else can assume all sorts of things about you by seeing you in all of these environments. i used to -- i knew that my family was observed. and at some point i split off and watched too. i wanted to see what the fuss was about. i used to say i feel like i've got my nose pressed up against the window oich a bakery, only i'm the bread. >> exactly how you put it, jim. >> i wanted to hug her. you couldn't help but fall in love with her. she was perplexing. she was fascinating. she was tough. she was outlandish and special and talented. >> great to have this conversation. i think the "new york times" how they put it today, she was a damsel who could very much deal with her own distress.
>> i love that. and she said in her book, her 2008 book when she had a conversation with george lucas, she walked onset in that white cress and he said to her, well you can't wear a bra with that dress as princess leia. and she said what are you talking about? and he said well people in space don't wear underwear. you are in space. she said -- she joked. she would have liked it to be part of her a pitch ware. that said princess leia did wear a bra because people in space didn't wear underwear. . >> and fights breaking out in malls across america. who is behind these brawls? when heartburn hits,
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president elect donald trump doubling down against president obama. trump tweeting president obama campaigned hard and personally in the very important swing states and lost. the voters wanted to make america great again. the tweet, his latest response to this statement coming from president obama. >> i'm confident that if i -- if i had run again and articulated
i could have organized a majority of the american people to rally behind it. >> so jeff, president obama saying he believes he could have beaten trump. clearly did not sit well with the president elect it seems. >> id did not at all kate. and really this is the continuation of the escalation between the 44th and the soon to be 45th president. a war of words unlike we've seen in this medium before. and really shows how far they have come from the first meeting in the white house in the days after the election. supporters on both sides. but kate, history will never know the answer to who would have won that contest. but you get the sense that both men would like to know the answer. >> that is why this is so strange that it continues to play out. because it is a mythical match up. president obama, he visited pearl harbor today with prime minister of japan and in his remarks late this afternoon,
some are saying a vailed viep at his successor. what are you hearing in it? >> reporter: often is moment of history there with president obama 75 years after the attack on harlpearl harbor. and president obama using it as a moment the talk about how countries can come together. let's listen to what he said. >> it is here we remember that even when hatred burns hottest, we must resist the urge to turn inward. we must resist the urge to demonize those who are different. >> the president clearly not mentioning donald trump by name, of course kate. but in the waning day of the 2016 and certainly of his presidency, clearly making the point here offering a lesson going forward for americans, if
they are listening to him to not turn inward as he said today in hawaii. >> fascinating. great to sea you jeff thank you. "outfront" now cnn political analyst and deputy culture editor of the new york times patrick healey. host of the ben ferguson show, ben ferguson. and nier ra huff. great to have you here. first up patrick healey. when you go to this tweet coming from donald trump late today? is he wrong? look at the travel schedule during the campaign. president obama did campaign hard and it was really personal for him, for hillary clinton in places like pennsylvania, ohio, north carolina, list them off and donald trump won all of those states. >> president obama made it very clear through his political lieutenants to hillary clinton that he wanted to campaign hard for her and especially against donald trump. he thought that he could bring out a message to rally his basis, his coalition for hillary clinton, that he was very well-positioned to take it to donald trump to sort of call him
out as inexperienced, as a con man, someone who wasn't capable as being commander in chief. and i think president obama still hasn't let the go of this. he likes to get under people's skin with not necessarily frontal attacks but just necessarily nudge them skol. and partly what he's doing here. and partly what he's doing here. saying i could have won a third term. he knows anything that makes donald trump sound like a loser at some point drives him crazy. >> plausible deniability that he's trying to needle him. but then if donald trump is right or wrong with this tweet. this one interview donald trump does with david axelrod, it clearly got under his skin. but he's going have a lot of critiques coming his way. how is he going to handle it? >> when you have this sitting president saying basically i
would have taken out back and whooped up on you and i was against you head to head. i don't have a problem with this. and if donald trump would have done a interview today one of the first questions any reporter would have asked is hey, did you hear what barack obama said about you today? and we would have accepted that from a reporter. instead we cut out the middle man and trump says no. you lost. and hillary clinton was an extension of barack obama. he made that very clear on the campaign trail as well. that if you want to keep my policies going, he even said that in stump speeches. hillary clinton is who you need to go out and vote for and the american people rejected that message. for him to claim now he would have won the election. he was out there campaigning, so was michelle obama saying you want us and what we did to keep going, vote for hillary and people said no. >> donald trump can say whatever he wants on twitter of course. but again we would have asked if we would have had a interview
with him but he's not doing press conferences with him, yet. and ben ferguson. get in on this. >> and any president who's won two terms or democrat or republican would probably say yeah of course i could wane third term. if anybody could appreciate a healthy ego it should be donald trump. having such thin skin on the campaign and carried over on twitter is the danger is that any foreign leader now knows or anybody looking to go up against the u.s. knows all you have to do is make a random comment and it will get under his skin. here is the challenge -- >> hold on ben. >> -- it is an off hand comment out of a bigger context over what the president was saying even today which is that this is really what we need is a time of healing and moving forward and not focusing on divisiveness.
at the end of the day -- >> -- >> okay. go ben. >> first of all, les not act like itt it is thin skin. you have a sitting president and a president elect. it is not thin skin for those two to go after one another. >> patrick makes a fascinating point. it is whenever anyone kind of -- i wouldn't say calls him a loser but kind of questions his winnability, if you will. we have example upon example of when -- >> win an election. -- >> >>[chatter]. >> go patrick. >> to put it in context too. and donald trump has said many times if you hit him he's going to hit you back ten times as hard. and i will say again, let's put this tweet in context. what donald trump tweeted about
obama actually wasn't that vicious. so one could argue that he is modulating his tone a little bit. he always used to say i hit back ten times as hard so they never forget how toughky b i can be. and he was basically saying -- >>[chatter]. >> hold on. there are two things. i don't think what donald trump really says in the tweet is wrong. i'm just fascinated by the fact that ben, no one is questioning the result of the election at all. so who is trump's audience. >> i disagree. look how many people have come out there. almost every democrat says well he didn't win the popular vote. >> they are not questioning the outcome -- >> >>[chatter]. >> that is a fact. >> look at all the stars that came out and did a video begging those in the electoral college
to not vote for donald trump and -- >> -- really be presidential. >> that's unprecedented. >> -- ignore and move on and focus on governing the country -- -- never ending campaign. >> when you don't hold obama to the same standard. >> -- this election and move forward and focus on healing the country -- >> i'm going to reach through the television screen and get you ben. >> why democrats keep bringing up the problem as you know is some of the people around president elect trump saying he has a mandate. insisting that american people voted his programs into office. . his policies. that he won some kind of a mandate to govern. and what you have here. he clearly won the electoral college. he's going to be president of the united states. but does he have an actual sort
of mandate to do what he wants to do when he lost the popular vote? >> hold on. i'm cutting this off. let's fight this in the break. so feisty tonight. coming up. donald trump in the campaign raling against hillary clinton for ducking the press and her wall street connections. is he now doing the same thing? fist fights and shots fired at more than a dozen malls across the country. was it more than a coincide? you do all this research on a perfect car, then smash it into a tree.
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only xfinity gives you more to stream to any screen. download the xfinity tv app today. tonight a source tells cnn that steve minuchin, trump's pick for treasury secretary submitted his tax returns to the senate finance committee. spent years at goldman sachs. the same bank trump slammed clinton for cozying up o in the election. jessica snider is "outfront." >> donald trump's repeated rallying cry throughout the election season. wi >> she is as crooked as they come. >> trump on the trail slamming
hillary clinton. calling her everything from crooked to corrupt. >> she should be in prison. >> but as donald trump's presidency takes shape some of his sharper barbs are being described as hypocritical. >> can you imagine another four years of the clintons? seriously? it is time to move on folks. we got to do it right. it is time to move on. and she's totally controlled by wall street and all the people that gave her these millions of the dollars. >> but trump's white house is welcoming wall street. billionaire investor wilbur ross is nominated for commerce secretary. treasury secretary pick steve minuchin made millions amid the housing meltdown. a lifetime partner at goldman sachs. >> they have total, total control over him. just like they have total control over hibbellary clinton. total. but they have no control over donald trump. >> trump taking swipes at
goldman bankers with her ties to hillary clinton and ted cruz then. now tapping alum for various positions. gary cohen. anthony scare muchy is also reportedly unconsideration and steve bannon. trump's senior counsel and chief strategist started his career at goldman sachs. >> -- >> this ad attacked clinton in october. but donald trump is doing the same thing. >> it is now abudget abundantly that the clintons set up a business to profit from public office. they sold access and specific actions by and really for i guess the making of large
amounts of money. >> there is concern trump too might profit from the presidency. he's working to disentangle himself from his worldwide business empire. if his two sons take over as expected there could still be overlap. his children have already joined trump for a number of meetings. trump's team promising a news conference to address his business deals in the coming weeks after postponing it in mid december. trump slammed clinton for avoiding the media. >> she doesn't do news conferences. because she can't. for a number of reasons. but number one she's so does honest. shi doesn't want the people peppering her with questions. >> that expected news conference in january will be the first time the press will get to press donald trump since july 27th. >> jessia schneider. thank you. "outfront" now alex stewart.
>> a trump a hypocrite? >> there is a completely different standard when running for office and actually being president of the united states. in terms of hillary clinton, they kept the clinton foundation up and running throughout her time as secretary of state. what donald trump is doing first and foremost he didn't build his empire. he didn't build these foundations overnight. and it is impossible to dissolve them overnight. and i think people need to give him the benefit of the doubt that he's going to continue to do as he's been doing and sever ties. he has dissolved, as he said the donald trump foundation. he's continuing to do so with other entity he's involved and with in terms of his business deals he says he will sever ties with them before he is sworn in. i think we have to give him the time to enable him to do this. it is something that is certainly a long and laborious
legal issue to do with but i truly believe he's going to do that. >> campaigning and governing, the difference is real. guantanamo bay is still open today. isn't it much harder to govern than it is to campaign? >> well, when it comes to trump, kate. everything that we're seeing that was just laid out is just the textbook definition of hypocrisy. he ran a campaign on what he perceived to be corruption. but what we're seeing right now with the way that he's putting together his presidency, could very well be the most corrupt and troubling presidency to date. especially as it comes to the conflict of interest with his business. but not only that, if you look at the promises that he made to voters, he's also stepping on his own populous message. the piece talked about the cabinet secretaries. 40% of his -- of his picks thus
far are his wealthiest donors. this is not about the working people. this is about the 1% of the 1%. and that's what he's showing and telling the folks who voted for him. and he really is just indeed going beyond what we've ever seen before. >> do you think that he -- do you fear that he risks alienating his supporters if he does things that would be hypocritical, slamming hillary clinton for being cozy to wall street and then doing the same thing? >> in he did that, sure. he would absolutely alienate his base and they would have every right to be frustrated. but keep in mind he has not taken office yet. and with regard to the wall street influence it is important to note hillary clinton took money from waums. and was influenced by that in many of her policies. and it is important to note donald trump did not make money from wall street and said repeatedly he's not going to be bought and sold by wall street.
and while there are many of the people making up his cabinet have that experience, they are the perfect people to help in his policy of draining the swamp. they understand the impact of federal regulations and how it hurts businesses. and they plan to execute his policy in reducing regulations and draining the swamp. his priority is to do away with the corruption and special interests of the wall street and big banks and these people will work for him to execute these policies. he doesn't work for them. they work for him. and they will execute the policies to do away with that corruption. >> a little of the reality of all this, that maybe alice will probably agree with. is that trump changed his positions on more than one issue during the span of the campaign. he had three different positions on abortion within 72 hours and didn't turn voters off then. why do you think they would care
now? >> because now he has to deliver. now he's no longer a campaigner. he's president elect and soon to be president of the united states. and just going backs to those pick, that tells it all. when you are picking goldman sachs alums to be part of your economic policy, when one -- when the person who is going to lead the treasury department made money off the 2008 economic crisis also ran a firm that was called foreclose machine, that should be concerning to his supporters that really believed him when he talked about bringing jobs and really ran like i said on that populist message. i think he's going to have a difficult time because they are going to expect him to deliver and when you are wringing on billionaires extremists and loyalists on to your cabinet i'm not sure how you are going to achieve that. >> the good news for trump is he has time to make good on promise. the bad thing is there is also a whole lot of tape on him making
promises on the campaign trail that a lot of people can 40e8d him accountable for which we will be seeing. >> "outfront" next. postchristmas shopping turned into post christmas brawls. more than a dozen scary fights breaking out at malls across the country. and after years of kapt activity. 21 young women kidnapped more than two years ago are now free. we follow them home captivity. 21 young women kidnapped more than two years ago are now free. we follow them home
tonight, mayhem at the mall. chaotic clashes and food court fights. at more than a does b malls across the united states. in virtually every corner of the country. ge jean casarez is "outfront." >> shopping adventures turned into a mass exodus, fearing the worst. >> about three ladies came running in our direction and screaming. >> reporter: the incidents all occurring within hours of each other. the facts seem to play out in the same way at every mall. tweets show that as the events were unfolding initial reports that at a majority of malls were shots fired. reports of weapons were false but instilled that initial fear for holiday shoppers who were scared for their life and just trying to get to safety. >> i honestly assumed they are
going to be followed with a guy and an automatic weapon just to ready -- >> this is cell phone video in aurora, illinois. people rushing down the escalators to find an exit. same in long island in new york. >> i was with my son and wife. my son fell down and they almost ran over him. he was pretty intense. >> reporter: fights break out in mall food courts in fayetteville north carolina. and in north carolina large numbers of people seem to already know what was going to happen. >> one of our officers was seeming ready to make an arrest of two people fighting. the crowd ban to circle. >> reporter: believing there was a social media nexus. >> there was something going around on social media about a fight that was going take place here. >> reporter: as police across the country look to see if cases are connected, one law
enforcement official said if anything it showed how it can create panic. >> they knew there would be crowds. they knew they could create a lot of havoc. >> reporter: i just smoke with aurora colorado police. they tell me they still cannot find that social media connection they were tipped off on that took everyone to the mall. upwards of 500 people involved in the havoc last night but just can't find the connection. so they still don't know how it was communicated and i'm told by former law enforcement that what is the motive here. is it it was to create and instill fear and panic, that was accomplished and that is a very serious thing that can last within people for a long lock time. >> very, scary. just look at those video, jean. thank you so much. "outfront" next. 21 young women kidnapped more than 2 and a half years ago. finally free. and japan's prime minister
homecoming. 21 girls kidnapped by terrorists are finally returning home. it's been more than two years since they were taken from their school. their captivity led to a global movement to bring them back. even president obama was there for their plea. "outfront" with this exclusive report. >> reporter: after almost two and a half years in boko haram captivity, at least it is time to go home. having covered the girl's abduction from the very beginning, i'm going make the long journey with them. >> you are going home. how are you feeling? somebody tell me. how -- what is the feeling in your heart right now? >> happy? >> for all the talk of excitement, some of these girls are also nervous. >> don't be nervous. don't be afraid. okay? you hold your faith. you hold on to your faith. okay?
okay? the same faith that kept you all those months. >> with the girls on the move there are more smiles as they chat and giggle freely amongst themselves. once we land, the girls are welcoming by some of the chibok community leaders. the road too dangerous to travel after dark. the girls spend the night at a local hotel. outside a large security cordon is put in place. inside, with their journey delayed, they gather in one room to do what they were unable to while in boko haram captivity. >> i learned from rebecca they were singing local christian hymns. while in captivity, their christianity was not tolerated by the boko haram terrorists.
>> what are you doing since you were --? >> since we are in abuja, we are grateful. we are grateful for them. because they are good for us. and when we are in abuja, that we learn how to speaking english and write very well. >> you guys look so different since i saw you in october. how are you feeling now from that time to now? >> i feel beautiful because, since we came -- >> you can tell me. you can tell me. because you are beautiful. the next morning, a military convoy escorts the girls to
chibok. >> reporter: the movement through these parts such well-armed convoy is drawing attention from passers by as we enter the town locals wave excitedly welcoming their girls home. the moment of reunion eventually arrives. the room almost vibrating with the sound of unbridled joy. for some waiting parents, heartbreak. these women have come looking for their daughters who are still being held by boko haram. they thought their children were among the group who were coming home for christmas. >> there has been such an
outpouring of grief amid the joy, the piercing screams of mothers realizing that indeed they are not to be reunited with their daughters on this day, which has turned what should have been an overwhelmingly happy moment into a bittersweet one. the nightmare for this man is over and her father is over come with feelings of gratitude. given all they have endured, the mental and physical abuse at the hands of their captor, the years of painful separatio from loved ones, this ruinen here this chibokeunion here this chibok -- in chibok moves them a step closer. >> wow. unbelievable. "outfront" for us next, 75 years after pearl harbor. japan's prime minister and president obama share an historic moment
honor those we lost and we give thanks for all that our two nations have won, together, as friends. >> thank you so much for joining us tonight. ac 360 starts now. good evening everyone. jim sciutto here tonight. the memory that launched a franchise, remembering carrie fisher. that's just ahead. we begin with a cnn exclusive interview. a pair of leading republican senator, john mccain and lindsay graham butting heads. today they confirmed the pacific partnership. another is