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democratic senator blumenthal over neil gorsuch. gorsuch criticizing going after -- senator blumenthal said he found it disheartening and quote demoralizing, despite gorsuch's spokesperson confirming that conversation, president trump said this. >> you misrepresented his comments totally. >> i wanted to ask you what you're thoughts were, sir. >> his comments were misrepresented totally. >> he was asked in the briefing room to sean spicer, the answer was two letters, wasn't it.
>> that's right. no. let's play the sound and talk about it on the other side. >> this is what senator ayotte said, judge gorsuch made it very clear in all his discussions including senator blumenthal that he could not comment, he has exercised the importance of an independent judiciary and while clear not referencing any specific case finds any judge's -- disheartening and demoralizing, so there's a big difference between the comments made in the tweet and the general philosophy and respect for fellow judges and i think the senator's comments were very clear how those are two distinct issues, senator blumenthal characterized them talking about the tweets, that's not what the judge said, he was making two complete distinct arguments how he views the comments that he
should not be commenting on a political matter or on specific things but as a whole he doesn't like attacks in general on the judiciary, he was commenting in general about attacks on the judiciary, that was it, plain and simple. >> reporter: so you heard all that from the white house press secretary trying to argue that gorsuch didn't exactly mean what republicans, democrats, and the white house pointed spokesman for gorsuch said he meant. there hasn't been an argument made that gorsuch was talking about the specifics of this case before the ninth circuit. he was talking generally and how he feels a judge should be treated an not treated, so it was a little odd to hear sean spicer trying to original something different. >> he's in a bit of a pretzel. also from the briefing room from
the white house you have kellyanne conway this morning who said this. >> they're using the most prompt woman in donald trump's -- and using her who has been a champion and i think people can see through that. go buy ivanka's stuff, i hate shopping i'm going to get some myself. it's a wonderful line, i'm going to give a free commercial here, go buy it, you can find it online. >> reporter: two things the counselor to the president was defending the president, blasting nordstrom for its decision to stop accepting the ivanka trump brand, their saying sales performance, and you heard
h kellyanne conway giving a free commercial, that's a violation of any law, it bars them from any products service or enterprise for the private gain of friends, relatives or whom they are affiliated in a governmental capacity. so sean spicer responded to that. >> questions have been raised after kellyanne conway did an interview i believe with fox promoted the products of ivanka trump, do you believe she crossed the line. >> kellie anne crossed the line, she's been counselled on it. and that's it.
>> reporter: that's all that spicer would say. >> i love how jeffrey toobin said that's my favorite new word counselled. thank you, afena. >> welcome to everyone, david chalian out of the gate first to you before i get into statements and this and that how you charact characterized, senators and gorsuch and the white house was brilliant. tell me how sean spicer would have had to pull off some jedi -- >> he's trying to square what
his fellow leader as to the white house for gorsuch to let this be known, he had to square that with the boss the president how it was mischaracterized. that's an impossible situation for sean spicer to be in and didn't serve him well to try to perform all those contortions. that being said i really thought this was a very smart strategy on the part of the white house to send gorsuch up there with this separation, i think it is very welcome words for democratic senators to hear as they're trying to build 62 democrats, it just reminds of
the undermining of it. >> as i've been told with the people working on it it was meant to be a clarification. >> this is senator ayotte saying judge gorsuch has made it clear with all his discussions with the senators that he could not comment on any cases and judicial ethics prevent him from any comments, while he was not referring to any specific case he said he finds any criticism of the judiciary demoralizing and disheartening. >> here what they're basically saying was that he was making a general statement he wasn't talking about president trump.
let's take that at face value and say that's true. it would still apply, right? if he makes the statement it's disheart disheartening and demoralizing you could apply that to donald trump. maybe he didn't say it about these specific tweets but made a general statement to what president trump did. >> and the notion that this could have in the end really benefitted maybe not necessarily the white house, but neil gorsuch in the sense that democrats need the magic number of 60 democrats are saying all right this is a guy who might stand up to the president of the united states which could help him officially make it to the highest court of the land. >> right. i had exactly the same thought yesterday that this was really smart strategy by the white house. usually the handlers for a supreme court nominee would not be that specific as they were with our reporters yesterday
about what judge gorsuch had been talking about in these talks with senators. >> and just confirmed it. >> and confirmed it. jeremy diamond got them to confirm it was exactly about the so-called judge tweet. so i think there's not any confusion on that matter there and it's just curious that trump would draw more attention to this unless the deliberate strategy to keep us all talking about it and potentially get some more democrats thinking about judge gorsuch. >> larry i'm going to come back to you on kellyanne conway, but the precedence with a judge clashing with a judicial, president obama when he criticized the justices for allowing corporations to spend freely in the citizens united
case, you saw justice elito mouthing something like not true, but is there fair this this case? >> complaining about court decisions, like president obama did there that got a ton of coverage when it seemed like a breech of protocol that the president did that, we saw justice sli toetoe's words, whe presidents disagree and say so about a decision, that's different than a president tweeting saying a so-called judge, if something bad happens blame him. there's a different.
>> what kellyanne conway said this morning on fox news essentially this commercial for ivanka trump's brand. bottom line, did she break the law? >> yes, bottom line she did bra i can the l -- break the law. she was in a government office, in a government position and it wasn't even subtle. she said i'm advertising for the product so this was a clear violation of the law, they're telling us she's been counselled, but not what she's been counselled on, so we don't really know if they get what the problem is. >> what's the ramification of this kinded -- kind of thing? >> they're her boss and it could be a letter of reprimand, it
could be a suspension, it could be firing, that's what would happen to a normal government employee, what was she counselled? was she counselled be more subtle next time, we have to bring it back to the day before when president trump took on nordstrom's for dropping her line. >> and he tweeted it from the pot potus page. >> right. this just carries through and kellyanne conway did it, but she is subject to the laws. if they don't get what's going on or why this is important then they're going to continue to do it and for us to just trust them that she's being counselled doesn't give a lot of faith. >> is there anything we could draw upon or any ramification on
this? >> i think there's a 0% chance that kellyanne conway didn't know there could be ramify indicatio - -- -- ramifications of this. but she's willing to take the reprimand and i'm sure made her boss very, very happy. he loves his daughter and very protective of her, i think she will perhaps get a slap on the wrist, and possibly harder after that. but. >> misstating sean spicer, saying atlanta, i think three
times when he meant orlando, it's not been a good week. >> no, i think folks have watched how the president has quickly moved on these orders and now the spokesman and the president really getting tripped up on their words i think a lot of republicans are watching this and distancing themselves we have seen this today on jason chaffetz on kellyanne conway's comments. it's going to be interesting. >> adana bash made an excellent point juxtaposing, her word was whiplash. thank you all very, very much. >> we have more to talk about coming up another big headline out of the white house. president trump sparring with senator john mccain over the deadly u.s. raid in yemen that included a tragic death of a
welcome back, you're watching cnn i'm brooke baldwin, two very different scenes playing out on capitol hill. president trump hosted a group of bipartisan senators for lunch to discuss potential support for his supreme court pick neil gorsuch. among the five democrats who attended four are up for re-election in states trump won last year, the top democrat turned his attention going after labor secretary pick andrew puzder. he has an amazing goal to have
campaigned the way he did and then put this man as nominee for secretary of labor is idea that you can say one thing and do another and get away with it is in the body of andrew puzder, probably the most anti-worker nominee to the department of labor ever. >> senior congressional reporter manu raju, why say no? >> they disagree on whether it's raising minimum wage, workers' rights, so this is one of the more polarizing picks, and some on capitol hill believe it could be the hardest nomination to get through, not because of how vigorously opposed democrats are
to his nomination but also some damaging liabilities from puzder's past namely the fact that he revealed earlier this week that he hired an undocumented immigrant as a household employee only later to pay back taxes. republican senators who sitting the key committee who will hear his confirmation nomination next week are still with holding their support including susan collins of maine saying she does not know what she will do once a chance to vote. >> is i have n have not reached decision. i almost always wait until there's a hearing unless i know the individual well. i have had two conversations with mr. puzder and i think there are questions outstanding that will be i'm sure delved into at his hearing, but i've reached no decision.
>> reporter: now there are several reasons why republicans are in the leadership realize think this is going to be very difficult one is they expect a very intense aggressive effort from the left. the way the liberal groups went after betsy devos and went after republicans that supported betsy devos and also acknowledged the hearings next week there's going to be a recess in the senate and votes may not happen for several weeks, behind the scenes republicans are trying to mobilize their own efforts in support of puzder talking to roughly about a dozen outside business groups, talking to the white house to give them some political cover and one person who's been heavily involved in this mitch mcconnell the majority leader working with his partners very hard to get him through.
white house has touted a huge success of the yemen raid, yet acknowledging the loss of the navy s.e.a.l., but senator mccain says he wouldn't call it a success because of what happened to the navy s.e.a.l. >> do you believe the chairman should look further into the yemen raid. >> we had a good classified briefing yesterday. >> no hearings planned on that? >> no. >> president trump tweeting senator mccain should not be talking about the success or failure of the mission to the media, only embolden the enemy. he's been losing so.
carl higbie is back with us, chairman of the george washington leader foundation, a big big trump leader, gentlemen thank you for your service to this country but let's get to the matter at hand. perry, press secretary, member of congress, should anyone be commenting whether a raid is a success or failure, period? >> i think it's our obligation whenever any service member is killed when an eight-year-old girl is killed, when we lose the right to conduct ground operations out of a country that has otherwise hosted special operations troops i think it is our obligation as americans to ask what decisionmaking went into this particularly a person like donald trump whose judgment has been again and again been
brought into question not just by the public by defense establishment leaders. >> karl, how do you see it? >> i would be curious if senator mccain would -- from a ve vietnamese prison camp if they were saved. we can have a successful mission if we have a loss of life. >> so you think it's appropriate really since the beginning to push this raid out and tout it as a success despite the loss of civilian lives, despite the loss of ryan? >> can absolutely, if we got the information to move forward, absolutely it is a success, it's tragic, and i've been there and lost friends right next to me, and having served this country,
i can unequivocally say i signed up to lose potentially lose my for this country but if we received -- to it then absolutely. >> should senator mccain apologize? >> i think it is shameful, absolutely not. i know there are many speaking out about this. deferring foreign matters -- to steve bannon, it is an absolute detra betrayal.
>> perry, this is the issue, you ran an anti-trump group, you got out when all the service members got in like myself to go to war you got out because of the war because you didn't agree with it which is fine but to leave your friends and family stranded on the battlefield but to come back and slander donald trump and say ryan owen's family is not own an apology by a senator come on that's ridiculous and dishonorable. >> perry do you want to respond? >> sabsolutely, that's why mysef and so many other veteran family members came together to form common defense and launch a petition which tens of thousands have signedmorebannnomorebannon. i don't think there's anything more honorable than taking a
stand and persistently going after my own service record. i have treated special operations soldiers many of -- some of whom did not survive. i've treated afghan civilians, i have the experience also of putting myself out there to try to care and do my best to care for fellow soldiers and i think it would probably be better if we kept this conversation about policy rather than making attacks on each other's service. >> i have a real problem with the conscious shs objector that you got to get out of the military, so it calls into questionability because you tucked tail and ran when others stayed and fought. i think it was dishonorable of
john mccain too. he called it unsuccessful because of a plane crash. this is a guy that crashed an enormous amount of planes, it it's -- >> i don't like tuck tail, hurling insults at one another. it is on policy and may not be the end of clashes between donald trump and senator mccain, i appreciate your service both perry and karl, thank you to both of you. we are waiting on an official ruling on president trump's ban. jeff sessions already defending the president's executive order but could the white house's own terrorism list actually under mine their case. we'll talk to peter bergen, he wrote all about it in a cnn opinion piece. we'll get his thoughts coming up.
your department of justice to do so in an effective way and you said something i believe and i think the american people believe that we need a lawful system of immigration, one that serves the interest of the people of the united states. that's not wrong, that's not im. we need the end the lawlessness that threatens the public safety, pulls down wages of working americans. >> so the travel ban would bar people from seven muslim majority nations from coming into the united states. any moment the federal appeals court is set to hear a halt to that ban. >> peter wrote the white house 78 major tear rrrorist terrori
targeting the west is strikingly devoid of evidence. >> i analyzed the list, seven countries the subject of this ban potentially, four of them didn't produce any of terrorists on the list, there are ninety terrorists in total the biggest number are from france, and the third from the younited states d the third from belgium. of the 90 terrorists at the very most nine come from countries subject to the ban and underlines the problem is a domestic terrorism problem, all the attacks since 9/11 have been carried out by united states
citizens. it's not a problem of people coming from outside, but a problem of people being radicalized here in the united states. let's leave aside the constitutionality question, the question becomes is a ban really going to deal with a problem that it's supposed to deal with? >> it's lopsided according to you, right? lo lopsided banning those versus what's on the list. >> right. if indeed french terrorists are a real problem obviously we have no fly list. to me the list is like saying we have a problem with central american gangs which is true and saying as a result we're going to make it impossible for having people from argentina from visiting. you see potential radicalization
either to themselves or reach out to authorities or ngos that's the main problem. this ban is not going to deal with the problem everybody is concerned about, which is domestic home grown terrorism in this country. we haven't been attacked from the outside since 9/11. that's the old view of what happens. what happens now is people are radicalizing around the country, you can't stop the internet with a visa ban order. >> go read peter's opinion on cnn.com. >> breaking news out of arizona a mother of two who sparked angry outrage degree deported by
we are follow breaking news, arizona mother of two being deported back to her native mexico, a day after appearing for an immigration check. she's been in this country illegally since 14 years of age. she was convicted of felony impersonation. when she got out she appealed her impending deportation but lost, in the meantime she had to regularly check in with immigration officials, this was her eighth visit with them and had yet to be deported until now. her arrest sparked angry outbursts. let's begin with jean casarez who is on this. explain to me, if she kept going back to immigration officials, was in this country illegally,
they had not deported her until now. why? >> reporter: ice tells me there's a list and once you have that permanent order of removal which she did gain if 2013, that you do have to check in with ice which they say she did, but that's to maintain accountability because there's a long list of then having deportation so it happened it was her number up at this point. they also say they can't confirm she's been the first one deported since this executive order was put into place, but back in 2009 where she was charged with criminal impersonation, she had used a fake social security number. she was convicted of a felony, a number 6 felony and her attorney says that does not bode well for her staying in the country, so at that point she was apprised at what was going to happen at
some point in the future, she signed paperwork knowing she would be removed didn't know when but was able to stay in this country until yesterday, deported this morning. ice has released a statement and i think we do have a copy of that to show to everybody that miss garcia who has a conviction for criminal impersonation was subject of a court ordered removal finalized in jeweuly 20. it went to board of immigration appeals and the judge ordered she did not have a legal basis to remain in the u.s. now her attorney also says that he does believe that this is directly because of the trump executive order that is being put into action calling them enhancing public safety
attacking immigrant communities and people of color, and her family says she wasn't even allowed to get her belongings or her clothes when she went to new mexico today. >> general casarez, thank you. >> backlash escalating against president trump's senior advisor kellyanne conway after telling viewers from the white house to bi-produc buy products from ivan ka trump.
moment when dog doo turns white. [ laughter ] >> betty white, i fell in love with her watching saturday nights, she played rose on "golden girls." now at 95 years young the actress and icon is still booking gigs. i got to spend an hour with this amazing woman in l.a., shared some french fries ahead of tonight's original series history of comedy. she told me she remembers getting her first laugh. she weighed in on saturday night live and talked to me about the women who brought her here. do you remember the first time you got a laugh? >> i think when i came out of the womb. i'm not sure. >> that early? >> yeah. it was only my mother and dad who laughed. >> betty white in life with elizabeth. >> life with elizabeth was your first series. as a female did you know that was a big deal as a woman? >> kind of yes because there weren't that many other women around. then carol and lucy came in and
became huge stars doing that same thing. it was a little out of character, a little out of feminine to be -- you shouldn't be funny. i mean, you should be -- that's the guy's job. you come in and be pretty. no, it's so much more fun to get that laugh. >> what was that like, though, being a woman surrounded by so many men? so many years? >> i enjoyed that -- oh, no, that's another story. oh, i do. i certainly do. women are all right, but men are so much better. ♪ thank you for being a friend -- >> golden girls was a big breakthrough as far as sear i were concerned. people didn't expect women that old to be funny. a situation comedy about old women? what is that? i think it changed a lot of the
thinking and opened the way for a lot of older women. >> what do you think is lost in comedy today that was the magic of when you were coming along? >> taste sometimes, i think. for me it stops being funny. >> do you think that is an easy laugh when people just try to curse or talk about body parts? >> in a little shock wave in there. if you surprise people with an, oh, he's got a big, uh, career. it surprises them and they laugh. >> what was your time like hosting saturday night live? >> wonderful. scary. >> announcer: ladies and gentlemen, betty white! >> in the back of your head there's a little voice that says, you're on "saturday night live" and it's just enough to close it right up. >> do you have favorite comedians today? >> oh, yes, melissa --
>> melissa mccarthy? >> oh, god, i think she's wonder. tina fey is maybe the best. they're crafts men. they know what makes it work. they know timing. >> they're not here to be your buddy. i'm here to swallow gum and i'm here to take names. >> she's made everyone laugh this week, including i think a little bit sean spicer, the white house press secretary, in this impression she did on saturday night. you saw it? >> oh, it made me laugh out loud. it was fun because it was so spontaneous. >> what do you think of the fact they got a woman to play him? >> i think it was hysterical. >> how many presidents have you lived through? >> lived with or through? >> have you ever met a president? >> oh, yes, yes, yes. i met the president of my senior class. i met mr. clinton, mr. obama was lovely. i had a lot of fun with him and his dog. i spent about an hour sitting
with bo on my lap in a room all by myself. it was just wonderful and i'd sit there and i'd think, i am sitting with the president's dog and i'm having a better time even than i would sitting with the president. i love the president. >> what advice do you have just in general, advice for young comedians coming up? >> keep your sense of humor. don't take yourself too seriously. and remember, you're in the funny business. you're not in the "me" business. >> did you ever have any woman in particular pull you along, help you out, mentor you in this craft? >> oh, mary tyler moore, she was such a major part of working with somebody because of her talent, her basic talent. you could learn so much from mary just by saying good morning. >> have you had regrets or big disappointments? >> i am the lucky est old broad
on 2 feet. i'm still able to get a job at this anal. i wi -- age. i'll go to my grave saying, can i come in and read for that tomorrow? >> is that not just the best thing? tonight make sure you watch the history of comedy. i'm brooke baldwin. thank you for being with me. "the lead" starts now. >> thanks, brooke. so, when did the whouite house briefing room become qvc? "the lead" starts right now. pitch woman, top trump advisor, federal employee, kellyanne conway standing in the white house, the people's house, going on television and telling people to buy ivanka trump's stuff. the white house this afternoon saying conway has been counseled, but what does that mean? president trump unloading on twitter against a senator after the senator revealed trump supreme court nominee called attacks on judges disheartening . here's a question.wi