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this is cnn. breaking news. thank you for joining us. i'm ee have a soares. >> i'm michael holmes. it is 10 p.m. in los angeles on the u.s. west coast, and we are following breaking news for you out of washington. the trump administration is facing new questions about its relationship with russia. a number of officials telling cnn top trump aides were in regular contact with russian officials throughout the presidential campaign. here's pamela brown. >> reporter: well, high level advisers close to donald trump were in constant communication
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during the campaign with russians known to u.s. intelligence. multiple current and former intelligence law enforcement and administration officials tell cnn president-elect trump and then president barack obama were both briefed on details of the extensive communications between people associated with the trump campaign and the trump business and russians. both the frequency and the proximity of those involved raised a red flag. according to the officials the communications were intercepted during routine intelligence collection targeting russian officials and other russian nationals known to u.s. intelligence among several senior trump advisers regularly communicating with russian nationals were paul manafort and michael flynn. flynn stayed on and resigned as trump's national security adviser last night. officials emphasize communications between campaign staff and representatives of
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foreign governments are not unusual. however, these communications stood out to investigators due to the frequency and the level the trump advisers involved. investigators have not reached a judgment on the intent of the conversations, but adding to u.s. investigator's concerns were intercepted communications discussing their belief that they had special access to trump. it's unclear whether they were exaggerating that claim or not, but this came at a time when the u.s. intelligence community was growing in confidence that russians were trying to tilt the election in donald trump's favor. this investigation still very much underway in the fbi and the intelligence community. pamela brown, cnn, washington. moscow deployed a cruise missile which apparently violates a treaty meant to protect nato countries. then there's a russian spy ship off the coast, and a u.s. navy
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warship in the black sea. some analysts say it's meant to test the trump administration which has advocated for stronger ties on the kremlin. clare joins us. before we talk about the russian military actions, i want to ask you about the breaking news. i know it's early in moscow. give us a sense if you can as to how kremlin may be reacting to news that trump advisers were in frequent communication with russian operatives. >> yeah. isa, it is a little early for official reaction, but we did know from the russian side that there were contacts during the campaign after the few days after the election. we heard from someone who said the contacts had been taken place. as to the frequency and content, we don't know anymore at this stage, but interestingly in the wake of the resignation or the resignation of michael flynn, russia officially has said this
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is an internal u.s. matter that they are not getting involved. they said the conversations took place, but as to the content of them and whether that influenced, whether the sanctions were discussed and whether that influenced president putin's decision in december, the russian side said that information is not correct. but we are hearing interestingly perhaps an echo even of tweets we've seen from president trump as the media is to blame for this. a senior russian politician tweeting yesterday that this wasn't because of any failure of flynn himself but because of the campaign, the witch hunt in the u.s. media against russia. so that is really the line of rhetoric that we're seeing so far from this side. >> yeah. and the u.s. saying, you mentioned the deputy foreign minister. that was two days after the election in november when he said there were contacts during the campaign. the trump transition team said this is not accurate. now, let's focus on michael
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flynn. what more are you learning in terms of his connections in moscow? there was a video we've seen of him attending events for russia today, tv network. that's a kremlin funded tv net work. >> absolutely. this is a public event that took place in december of 2015 to mark the 10th anniversary of rt, the state funded english language tv network. a very big operation here in moscow. he was pictured there sitting next to vladimir putin at a dinner, and we know that he was paid. he's admitted this, to hold a q and a session with an anchor during the commemorations where he talked a lot about the middle east and american priorities there, and we know he's appeared on rt a number of times as an unpaid analyst as well. so he certainly is open to working with russia to appearing here, and he is a face known in
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russia. >> yeah. and while the kremlin -- while the president has his hands full at the white house, talk to us about the recent activity in the form of the alleged missile. what does that relationship say about u.s. relationships and what does the kremlin have to say on that front? >> well, nothing officially from the kremlin, but we've had one reaction so far this morning so that accusation that russia has deployed a cruise missile in violation of that 1987 treaty concerning sir kartrov. the federation council told the state news agency, he said leaks in the media are a continuation of the information war against russia and against those in the new u.s. administration who support normalizing relations with russia. so, again, this is what i was talking about. they are blaming the media for
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whipping up anti-russian sentiment. he said yesterday the same politician said the story around michael flynn was a sign that the new u.s. administration had already been infected by russophobia. i think there's a real concern that despite all the public statements by president trump, that he wants to improve relations with russia despite his efforts throughout the campaign and since not to in any way insult vladimir putin, that he may be under pressure to adopt a more hawkish stance to fall in line with members of his party and the rest of congress. >> media very easy targets. thank you very much, clare. michael. >> thank you. here in los angeles republican pollster justin and matt join me to talk more about this. the red flag here was that these contacts between senior trump
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officials on the campaign and the russian operatives was happening exactly around the same time that there was evidence emerging of the hacking of the dnc by russia. how do you think this looks for the republican? >> how it looks and may be may be different. there's no question the optics are rough. the president cannot be happy right now with the way things look and the way things were handled over the last couple of weeks. all that said, what we still have right now is a lot of activity, a lot of uncertainty. none of us have seen any content about what took place in these conversations. we know they were taped. we know the transcriptions exist. we don't know what was done. we also don't know about the flow of those conversations. it says there was a lot of activity. was that in response? was that prompted? were the russians calling in order to get that kind of response? is this all, frankly, a show? russians do shows. i mean, right now they're deploying missiles in places that are naughty, that they shouldn't be doing it.
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>> this is the russians during the show, this is trump campaign people reaching out to russians to discuss who knows what. >> okay. so that may be true, but i think it's a nuance. i hear there are multiple communications, but i don't know it's always the case that they're initiating. i think there was just multiple communications. >> we do know it's supposedly constant contact. i don't know about you guys, but if somebody called me every day and i didn't want to talk to them, at some point i'd stop picking up my phone. when multiple campaign officials are talking to russian officials while donald trump is saying i want the russians to hack my opponent, and then the russians hack his opponent, at a certain point we don't have to put that many pieces together. there's only a few pieces that haven't been colored in by what we know. >> we saw sean spicer today, the spokesman coming out and sort of defending donald trump and saying that he has been tough on russia. let's have a listen to what he
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said. >> the irony of this situation is that the president has been tough on russia. he continues to raise the issue of crimea which the previous administration allowed to be seized by russia. president trump has made it clear he expects the russian government to deescalate violence in the ukraine and return crimea. at the same time he fully expects to and wants to be able to get along with russia. unlike previous administrations so we can solve many problems together facing the world such as the threat of isis and terrorism. >> which is all fine, but the reality is even though some in the administration like nikki highly at the u.n., one example. donald trump has not been tough on russia. he has been warm to russia. >> well, he has allowed his proxies to be tough on them without vocally condemning them, and we know for a fact that there is no caution with the president in that regard. if he feels that somebody who works on his behalf and speaks for him is saying something
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that's contrary to his goals, he will not say it later. he will say it immediately and in no uncertain terms. >> i'm glad you brought that. we've known since december that michael flynn called the russian ambassador the day of the sanctions. a reasonable person would assume and many did at the time that that conversation was about the sanctions. if donald trump shuts down people who do things that he doesn't like when it happens, you'd think he would have spoken up before this hit the prez. instead trump as known this happened and didn't tell flynn to resign until it was a big news story. clearly he was okay with flynn doing this. >> so what. he had a conversation about policy before taking the office. >> normal kwloi don't provide aide and comfort to a foreign power before you take an office. >> this is different. it's not a business person trying to position an oil company. >> no. >> this is an incoming administration. >> this is the foreign policy of the united states. >> but you say that, but i haven't read the script.
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have you in it's a wonderful assumption we're all making. >> with michael flynn, would he have had a conversation about sanctions with the russian ambassador of his own volition? is that something he might have done? >> michael flynn does things because he wants to do things. >> there are a lot of questions now about who knew what and when. >> i think it would be pretty shocking if he made a decision like that without running it by his boss, and if he did, i think it would be pretty shocking if donald trump didn't ask him, hey, what did you talk to the russian ambassador about after the news reports came out? the idea that two months passed and donald trump didn't ask doesn't pass the smell test. >> the other thing that raises eyebrows is the administration saying that michael flynn resigned because trust no longer existed. that was the reason that he told the vice president something that wasn't true, so there was a deficit of trust. surely the issue should have been that he was discussing sanctions with the russian ambassador.
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>> we know that to some extent it was discussed. we don't know the scope. i want to find out. i think clarity is important. i also would like to find it's a bit of an elephant in the room, but why is our intelligence service, why are things flowing out into the public? they don't belong there. president trump learned you cross the american intelligence services at your peril. >> donald trump tweeted about that. let's call it up. he actually says the real story here is why are there so many illegal leaks coming out of washington. will these leaks will be happening as i deal on north korea. >> that's not the real story, but it's the other issues coming out. >> i'll tell you the listen the leaks are bad politically. >> the reason the leaks had to happen is hope hicks was asked if the trump campaign talked to the russians during the campaign. she said they didn't. sean spicer was asked. he said they didn't. at a certain point when there's stuff that's potentially going
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to undermine the foreign policy of our country and the administration is openly lying about it, somebody has to bring it to the public. it's whistle blowing. >> you say lying, but we see one press conference, one representative saying one thing, one saying another thing. we have some operational issues in the white house in terms of what is supposed to be said, who knows what. and it maybe is just as simple as that. the right hand doesn't know what the left hand is doing. >> that's terrifying that a national security adviser can make an important security call and the white house spokes people don't know the content. >> the president is not going to babysit him on every call. these are grown, capable people. >> if thing is, and you're a gop policy. when you look at it, you've god the court battles over immigration, kellyanne conway in trouble over ethics issues. you've had this state matters being discussed in a restaurant at mar-a-lago which seems
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extraordinary. and now this about the michael flynn resigning and now these contacts between trump. could you imagine three weeks into it, i mean, i just reeled off the top of my head stuff. that's three weeks into it. >> you raised a good point, but as always, there's another side. well, there's a lot going on. i mean, this is someone who has demonstrated he's driven. he has an agenda. he's per suing it. he's going at it and doing it faster than i think anyone in any administration has done. >> i have to put this up. it struck me as someone who has dealt with the military over the years. the head of u.s. operations command had this to say about the white house at a conference. he said our government continues to be in unbelievable turmoil. i hope they sort it out soon because we're a nation at war. he's not the only one saying this, but this is a serving
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commander of special operations command. for him to speak publicly for that, and quite possibly risk his job in doing so, it seems to be extraordinary. >> this is a few weeks. we've got eight years left of this, and i don't -- >> eight? you're planning ahead. >> again, assumptions. >> right. and frankly, i mean, we're already careening from potential foreign policy crisis to potential foreign policy crisis. it's high past time for congress to open up early discussions of introducing articles of impeachment, because i don't think our national security is safe. >> you're jumping. do you think there should be some inquiries first? >> apparently laws don't really matter in this world. >> they've been breaking them left and right. >> breaking them? >> from colluding with a foreign power, to the ethics violation. >> how much more evidence do we need? >> are you expecting --
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>> is it safe to expect there's going to be months of investigations here that you expect to see michael flynn up at a congressional inquiry? >> yeah. i think so. and i suspect that several of these things will be taken seriously, even something that may seem as frivolous as kellyanne conway's comment, i suspect these things will be taken seriously, if for no other reason, i think there's concern about the perspective of order. i may be wrong, but i wouldn't be surprise first down they want to have an appearance of approaching questions in a serious manner in resolving them. >> all right. i have to leave it there. justin and mac, thank you for being with us. >> thank you. now a new mystery surrounding a north korean regime kim jong-un's half brother chied suddenly, and some believe he was murdered. we'll have more from matt rivers next.
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welcome back, everyone. our live breaking news this hour, multiple sources telling cnn that top aides to then candidate donald trump were in constant communication with russian officials during the presidential campaign. now, normally this kind of contact is not considered particularly unusual, but investigators say these talks stood out for a few reasons, because they happened so frequently, and involved senior campaign officials.
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just yesterday national security adviser michael flynn resigned due to his contact with russian officials. now south korea says the half brother of kim jong-un has been murdered with poison. kim jong-nam was once cord next in line. he was critical of his family and living in while. he fell ill at the airport in kuala lumpur on monday. matt rivers joins us from seoul in south korea with more. matt, do we know exactly how he was poisoned and by whom? >> reporter: we don't know yet. this is a very complicated story, and frankly, there's still a lot of details we're trying to sort through. but here's what we know for sure. here this morning in south korea the national security council had an emergency briefing about this particular situation. it was after that meeting that there was a briefing held with reporters with the chairman of the national assembly's intelligence committee. it was a short briefing. what he said in that briefing
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was that that committee has learned and can confirm that kim jong-nam was poisoned at this airport, and therefore, was murdered because he died on the way to the hospital after being put in an ambulance there at the airport. now, they didn't provide any proof of that. reporters asked how you know that. they didn't provide a motive or say who might have done it, and they didn't say how kim jong-nam was poisoned. that lawmaker also went onto say there are two suspects they identified in this case. he said that both women are of asian dissent, but he did not say how they know it or who their identities are and he didn't say how he knew they were involved with this particular death. there's a lot of details coming out. but malaysian police say it was on monday morning that kim jong-nam went to the airport. he felt ill and went to a check in counter. and that point according to a police chief told a clerk that it felt like someone grabbed or held his face from behind. he was then put in the ambulance
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and died en route to the hospital. we are awaiting the results of an autopsy. that's obviously going to be very much a sought after information to provide a little more clarity. we don't know who might have done this and why and the poisoning, how it actually happened, but there's a lot of speculation given that this is kim jong-un's older half brother. there's a lot of speculation here, all of it unsubstantiated that the regime might be behind it. but cnn has no byway to confirm that. >> and we wait for answers. do we know where he stood politically on the regime? >> reporter: it was interesting, because for a long time observers said kim jong-nam was the favorite son of the former leader.
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he was the favorite son. he was the heir apparent, but apparently he was banished from north korea and since then he's lived the life of a playboy. he's a gambler according to people in the know. and he hasn't been afraid to criticize kim jong-un as being not the best leader for the people of north korea. so there's a lot of experts who say he felt like he was a target. all the elites in north korea feel they're a target given we've seen the regime not be afraid to purge some of the top leaders. >> matt rivers for us in south korea. thank you very much, matt. now donald trump aides in constant communication with suspected russian operatives during the presidential campaign. our breaking news coverage of the controversy that continues next. plus the israeli prime minister is in the u.s. what can we expect from the
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you're watching "cnn newsroom." i'm michael holmes in los angeles. it is 10:30 p.m. >> it's 6:po on wednesday morning in london. multiple officials confirmed president trump's campaign aides were in constant communication we found out with russian officials as he vied for the white house. investigators say contact by itself can't unusual. but the frequency of the talks and the high standard of -- standing of the people involved, that's raised concerns. mr. trump's national security adviser resigned. cnn's don lemon spoke earlier to a panel of u.s. generals about the turmoil it would seem at the white house. >> you can be sure that inside the white house not much else is
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getting done as people are trying to get their facts together and figure out what's going on. it's been a mystery to me. i never understood why president trump didn't release his tax returns, didn't divest himself of his businesses. all along there's been this suspicion that for years he's gone off russian money. and now it's all been deepened by the revelations of these contacts. we don't know what was in the contacts. we don't maybe somebody does, but it hasn't been released yet. we don't know the purpose of it. but i think it's incumbent on the white house to clear this up as rapidly as possible. it may well lead to an investigation, but it shouldn't be pried out like a tooth extraction. this is something the white house needs to really put together and come clean with. the president trump needs to address the country on it in some way if not president trump, someone in his administration in an authoritative way and get this cleared up and move on. there's important business to be done for america. >> they keep saying they want to
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move on. that is the way to do it. general hurtling, how is this viewed inside the military? >> it's increasingly troubling, don. you're not only talking about what some are perceiving as a strategic advantage in several fronts. they tried to insert themselves into afghanistan. they're still going on in syria. the ukrainian front as general clark well knows because he's there as much as i am, has come almost to a stalemate, not in crimea but in the don boss, and what's happened since president trump was elected, is there has been reinforcing units going into that area to -- and really, having a great deal of effect on the ukrainian forces that are there. and that's not even counting some of the things that are going on in europe across the board with threats toward kalingrad, the baltics and
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interference in some other elections. these things are advantages that russians trying to take the advantage of, but then in addition to that, you have some of our commanders in the field who i've talked to recently. you mentioned tony thomas a few minutes ago, tony is trying to hold special operations together, and he wants direction for things he's doing. ben hodges and mike skaparoti are continuing to train ukrainian forces. it's happening while there's turmoil in washington. let's talk about this, general marks. what the red flag was here, they said both the volume of the communications and the proximity to mr. trump. what does that mean? how much contact would there need to be to raise a red flag? >> don, i think the real issue here is what i would call a reasonable man standard. there has been a great deal of discussion about the logan act which would not be invoked in
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this case. if you were to interpret that in a literal sense every communications with every foreign power, whether you're u.s. government or you're assuming a position in government would be suspect. the challenge that we have is that the nature of our relationship with russia has never been more challenged, and because of their adventurism as described by mark, in ukraine specifically, crimea, elsewhere, you know, russia clearly is advantaged when there is turmoil on their near abroad which means we pay attention to what's happening on their borders. it allows them some comfort and freedom of action within their own borders. we need to be able to pay attention to this very closely. general clark nailed it. this president needs to come forward and say look, folks, this is where we are. this is my choice for my new
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national security adviser. and this is my relationship with that national security adviser. you hear everybody discussing what the model is for that relationship. it depends upon what the president wants to achieve, and how he wants to employ an influence power internationally. that's a very unique and personal relationship. and that nsa either needs to be a policy guy which would be a huge mistake. you have steve bannon assuming an increased role which i think is a mistake, but that's a decision the president made, or it needs to be an integrator. that's what you would look for to take policy information and dhs, homeland security, and integrate it and present policy options to the president. that's where we need to move right now so we can get rid of this white water. far too much turmoil. >> when we come back, undocumented immigrants looking
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you are watching cnn news room. benjamin netanyahu is in washington right now for a meeting with president trump on wednesday. mr. benjamin netanyahu says he is looking forward to a stronger alliance between the u.s. and israel. he and mr. trump are expected to discuss syria, iran, west bank settlements, but the big headline is the trump administration will not insist on a two-state solution between the israelis and palestinians. we have josie here. thank you for joining us in the show. not insisting on a two-state solution. that pretty much breaks away with years, i believe, of u.s. decades of u.s. foreign policy. >> from september 1993 when it was signed in the white house. the basis is a two-state
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solution. living side by side, all negotiations since 1993 including the latest effort by john kerry that failed as we know, was based on two-state solution. now, maybe the united states is reaching now the conclusion, the effects on the ground makes a two-state solution less and less viable. >> perhaps, but could this be a tactical move, a temporary decision just to help netanyahu at home? >> the question if not two-state solution, what's there? if trump is a deal maker and wants to strike a deal between the two, what's the solution? also for israel, is it a one-state solution they're after in i don't think the israelis are after a one-state solution, maybe a confederation, but it's
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a different arrangement. is the continuation of occupation? it's maybe said, oh, i'm not insisting, there is clean slate, but what do you want instead? how you going to treat it in are you going to start negotiation from scratch and forget the last 20 years. >> you're pointing out a lack of clarity when it comes to israel in terms of policies from the u.s. administration. so netanyahu going into the meeting, what do you think he'll try to get out of this? >> i think he's trying to sharpen chemistry. he wanted for many years a republican president, but he got probably the wrong republican president, the one who is not naturally an israeli supporter. he's unpredictable. he is a complex character, so the first thing of netanyahu's mission is to be defensive. in other words, don't upset the person, don't start on the wrong
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foot. start to establish good relations. i think he's probably quite content with a two-state solution is not too much. that's what some of his most radical right wingers tell him. tell donald trump is a two-state solution, we shouldn't talk about a palestinian state, but netanyahu knows if it's not that, what's there. top of the agenda, he knows his common with trump is iran. and his tactics when he wants to divert from other issues, let's bring iran. it's under police investigation. chancellor merkel just -- if he can find iran, bilateral talking about syria, the danger of the hezbollah, talking about military, i think he'll be content. >> of course, with iran we know the hawk on iran michael flynn
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has resigned. i want to bring up u.s. newspaper i saw an article opinion piece comparing the situation of states to what's happening in israel. how will america look after years of trump and bannon, and it says see israel, because we know the netanyahu is facing plenty of pressure at home on investigations. isn't he? >> everybody commented they found themselves in power and but not in control, and netanyahu reaching 4,000 days of being a prime minister altogether, compared to not even 28 days of power. his lesson is how you survive police investigations with scandals, with problems at home, very unpredictable aides that wants you to do all sorts of things. and beth of them are about being in power but not having an idea how to move forward.
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welcome back to "cnn newsroom." the breaking news we've been following the last few hours. high level advisers to donald trump were in constant contact with russian officials during mr. trump's presidential campaign. now, multiple law enforcement and intelligence officials say they were concerned about the frequency of the communications as well as the proximity of those involved to mr. trump. >> now, the recent raids by u.s. immigration authorities has immigrant communities across the country on high alert. nearly 700 people arrested in operations in five cities. rosa flores reports people are now looking for safe havens. >> reporter: this church congregation in chicago is made up of nearly all undocumented immigrants and refugees.
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-- and refugees. the renewed panic is fueled by the story of guadalupe, an arizona woman with two u.s. citizen children and no violent criminal background, who was deported after a routine check-in with i.c.e. multiple people here have to do exactly that in the coming days. including this mother. she only wanted to be identified as jessica. >> she says that since guadalupe was deported in arizona, she can't sleep, she can't have peace. because she's afraid that she'll be next. >> reporter: like guadalupe, jessica's immediate family is in the u.s. legally. her one run-in with the law, using a fake visa in the '90s. because of that crime, she's been required to check in with i.c.e. for more than a decade now. her appointment in three weeks is especially stressful. >> she says that her message to
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president trump is that she's not a criminal, she's not a terrorist, and that she doesn't want her family to be separated. >> reporter: her pastor said her church is a sanctuary for people like jessica. this weekend alone, she received multiple calls from her congregation asking her to save a space for them in the church just in case immigration knocks on their front door. >> i feel like they're my children. and they're coming after my children. and it's been extremely difficult and i want to stand up for them. >> reporter: the fear is spreading across the country. more than 6,000 people have signed up to provide sanctuary around the country, including 800 churches. that number doubled from 400 since donald trump became president, according to leaders of the sanctuary church movement. but pastor lozano thinks that's
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not enough. >> we need a lot of people to stand up, and i'm going to do whatever i can for them. i'm only one pastor. >> reporter: she understands why some people are hesitant to provide sanctuary to the undocumented. her church has been tagged with hate speech at least five times in ten months. as for jessica, she doesn't plan to take refuge inside the church. >> she said that she would rather follow the law, check in with i.c.e. >> let's go. gracias. >> reporter: even if that means getting deported. the fear in the undocumented community appears to be impacting business in little village or little mexico here in chicago. now, that is according to the executive director of the chamber of commerce there, who says that sales are down 10 to 20% since donald trump won the presidency. rosa flores, cnn, chicago. >> and joining me here in los
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angeles, tessi borden, spokesperson for immigrants rights. following on from rosa's story, thank you for being here. i was reading an article and a pastor was quoted. he said this, there's a dreadful sense of fear. it's more than palpable. it's radiating. people are terrified. is that a fair summary are how people are feeling? >> i think so. i mean, i think that throughout, at least our community, what we're seeing is people are calling the organizations that they feel like they can trust, and they are asking for advice and we are going forward and telling them what kinds of things that they can do, what their rights are. so we're telling them to -- they have the right to remain silent. we're telling them specifically that if they see i.c.e. agents or police coming to the door, not to open the door. if they have a warrant or a
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search warrant, that they should -- the agents should be asked to slip it through the bottom of the door, so that they can see it. they should ask for specific people. those are the main things that we're telling people. >> it's interesting. president barack obama was at one point, i think he was call the deporter in chief. because he was sending so many people back to their home countries. what is different from that compared to now? what's happening now? >> well, you know, with president obama, we protested because we felt like his policies sort of deporting people even under programs like secure communities, were still too rough. but the situation with the obama administration was that they were making priorities, so they were saying, we're going to put certain people in lower categories, because we don't
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believe that they're a threat to national security. under the trump administration, basically everyone has become a priority. >> they're sweeping up. >> which means that there's no priorities. everyone is under sort of the same -- >> so they're sweeping up. president trump went on twitter last sunday, i think it was, and he said the crackdown on illegal criminals is merely keeping my campaign promise, gang members, drug dealers, others are being removed. the government says it's going after the bad guys. you're saying they're going after everyone? >> well, in fact, we know for a fact that they are not just going after people who have hard criminal histories. because we had guadalupe garcia who was arrested and deported. we also heard earlier today about a young dreamer who had no criminal record. so on the ground, in the community, that is not what we're seeing. we're seeing that people are
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being swept up in a kind of raid. >> worrying for those people. tessi borden, thanks so much for coming in. >> thank you. and you've been watching cnn newsroom. i'm mickhael holmes in los angeles. >> and i'm isa soares in london. we'll both being back after a short break. do stay with cnn. we are, of course, the world's news leader. there are over 47 million ford vehicles out here. that has everything to do with the people in here. their training is developed by the same company who designed, engineered, and built the cars. they've got the parts, tools, and know-how to help keep your ford running strong. 35,000 specialists all across america. no one knows your ford better than ford. and ford service. right now, get the works! a synthetic blend oil change,
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this is cnn breaking news. hello and welcome to our viewers in the united states and around the world. i'm michael holmes in los angeles where it just turned 11:00 tuesday night. >> and i'm isa soares in london where it's 7:00 on wednesday morning. thank you very much for joining us. >> and we do begin with the breaking news. new controversy for the u.s. president, donald trump, and his campaign advisers' contacts with russia. >> that's right. multiple officials tell cnn trump aides were regularly in contact with top russian officials throughout the presidential campaign. our pamela brown has all the details for you. >> reporter: high level