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classification but the chanting lock her up, i know they're going to want to know what was in those e-mails. >> in the meantime t news continues right here on cnn. i'm brianna keilar thank you for joining me, president trump visiting a catholic school in orlando, this is happening after his administration is getting a schooling with a new homeland security system casting doubt on a travel ban. found out after exam 88 cases of terrorism, found out they do not arri arrive in the u.s. radicalalized. but after. this is based on unsealed information not on classified
data. another one reportedly concluded that citizenship is quote an unreliable threat indicator. i want to turn now to senior white house correspondence jeff zeleny, how is the white house responding to this? >> reporter: with virtual silence. another week has gone by with the president not signing the second version of the travel ban, remember back when he said this is so urgent to protect the security of this country, one of the reasons his advisors explained during the first week of presidency that he wanted to sign it by friday the fifth day in office but now they have gone back to the drawing board because of the legal challenges but also because of the specifics of the ban and yet again we were advised he would sign it this week, he still has not. and a white house spokeswoman sara sanders told reporters this, we don't have announcement on this, we'll let you know when
we're ready to roll that out. so they're not even promising next week but as far as the substance of that homeland security report the white house has not commented on that yet. >> and you can't help but notice, jeff, there have been days of no negative tweets and president trump tweeted about democratic leader chuck schumer. >> reporter: he did. there have been questions hanging over this administration the last few days or so, and the attorney general yesterday as well, but look at what the president sent as flieg doying o florida. he says we should start an immediate investigation into senator schumer and his ties to russia and putin. a total hypocrite. >> that was taken a few years
ago. >> schumer responded and said happy to talk, full view under public oath. would you and your team. so the reality there are people in senator shumer's office happy to talk about this, and believe this administration has not been forthcoming about all their meegts with russia, so that's one thing they really are working to try to get a hold of more answers to, because without a doubt it has consumed their week which started as an otherwise pretty positive week for this president here at the white house briana. >> sure did. jeff zeleny at the white house. thank you. >> and there's fallout despite recusing himself to any investigations pertaining to this, democrats say they need to see more before the senate judiciary committee.
manu a manu ra jraju. is. >> reporter: jeff sessions is expected to explain why he did not disclose those meetings when he was asked specifically about any contacts between russian officials and the trump campaign. he will say that in the letter probably later today explain meetings he had with the russian ambassador but democrats want him to actually appear before the committee and have him answer questions and exactly what he talked to the russian ambassador. >> sheldon whitehouse, this is what he has to say. >> without that context, it's impossible to know. the only hesitation that i have
about saying that he absolutely ought to come before the committee is that he is now a witness into any legitimate investigation about connections between the russian election influence operation and the trump campaign, so whatever the fbi is doing in this area, they now have him as an extremely logical witness to ask the same questions that we would want to ask in the committee. there are factual contacts about what the conversation was with the russian ambassador, whether there were related conversations about the trump campaign and what the substance was of any such communications with the trump campaign and those need to be answered. >> reporter: interesting to hear him talk about sessions possibly be a witness, the white house just met with fbi director james comey in a private meeting
yesterday, him and lindsey graham discussed the issue of their own investigation of russia in the subcommittee on this issue, we do know the fbi director has not been forthcoming on some details with at least some members of congress. house democrats were not pleased with what they heard from the fbi director yesterday during a meeting, thought he should have given more details about what he knows about rush and the trump campaign and so we will see if jeff sessions comes before the committee, which he may do, at this point we'll see what he has to say. >> thank you so much. i want to talk more now about president trump's week of highs and lows now with brian stelter. cnn senior media correspondent also the host of "reliable sources." and carol -- brian you saw the
president's tweet, senator schumer firing back, happy to talk about my contact with putin in 2003 in front of the immediate yachmedia. he was having a pretty disciplined week on twitter, but maybe not now quite as disciplined. >> we've seen a very toned down president trump on twitter. you're right one of indications of that is lack of the press on twitter no reports of fake news. he's following up a few days on fox, he says i give myself a for achievement but only a c for messaging, he seems to be aware of these so-called self-inflicted wounds have hurt his presidency and he couldn't resist schumer though. he seems to be grabbing that from conservative media and
pulling it on twitter so everyone will see it, but by trump's standard, which is a very different standard, he's had a very disciplined week. -- >> i think the president has said himself he's been frustrated privately his aides will tell you this, he's expressed real frustration with the way his message is being communicated. he at times has blamed others, that's why we saw him do that remarkable news conference a week ago and i think it's why you're seeing him start to try to stick to some message, because look, they know that when he is talking about the issues that got him elected particularly on the economy, he is strongest and that's a message that plays well much
more broadly than say an attack on the fake news media or engaging in fights with a hollywood actress or whatever he's been doing we've seen since he took office, and so we're seeing him coalesce around that. >> not to lower the bar too much. there's a will the of lowering the bar with regards to the joint address. the president brought up a conspiracy theory of jew issue cemeteries. >> he said this is being done by someone else to make this look bad. >> that would be astonishing but because there's been a more disciplined approach he's been getting more credit. but be -- not to lower the bar
too low. >> to compare donald trump to donald trump, he had one of the better if not one of the best days so far of his presidency. things were going well for him then he gets blindsided by this jeff sessions story, he must have been so frustrated to be headed on an aircraft carrier for this photo op and then this taking all the attention. >> frustrated with the coverage, not frustrated with his attorney general per se. >> interesting. >> if you look at the way this white house handled the fallout after revelations of michael flynn's contacts with the russian ambassador, it's been much different. there's a much stronger backing by the president specifically of the attorney general, and that's a difference we're seeing here and i think that's because he's going to dig on this one a little bit more and also they're
trying to down play this, why you see the tweet with chuck schumer and trying to make it seem a lot smaller and not so much of a big deal, but it could be a big deal and there are going to be continuous stories about the president and potential ties to russia. >> brian stelter thank you so much. the vice president blasted hillary clinton over her private e-mails but new today we're learning something about his e-mail use that is raising eyebrows, plus why can't anyone seem to remember their conversations with this guy, the russian ambassador, and one senator literally goes on a s ska -- ska -- hunt. while another talks to a statue.
. attorney general jeff sessions makes at least one of five former campaign members, met with russian ambassador, michael flynn, son-in-law jared kushner, jd gordon and carter page, all happened after june 2016, this is when the first reports came out about russian government hackers trying to medal in the u.s. election, a very key detail. joining me now is james gagliano. so, james, when you look at this and you see from donald trump's
associates that these roads lead back to russia and only russia, we don't seem to see them talking to officials in china or other specific countries, what does that tell you? >> well, first of all good to be with you, i certainly couldn't speak to what the transition team, who they would have been speaking to, i'm sure they speak to a whole host of different neig nations in regards to the new president to take other. there seems to be a lot of drum beat about these contacts with russia, it's been a long time since we have pursued a logan activation, the fbi has been around a long time and in its over 100-year history i don't think they have ever did that. i don't think anybody would argue or speculate those were inappropriate. where they could go off the rail
is if the judiciary committee or if the intelligence committee calls the attorney general back or calls into their session some of the staffers that might have been in those meetings with the russian diplomats and whatever the attorney general said when asked the questions by senator franken during his confirmation hearing if they're in contrast then they're looking at potential perjury charges. >> it's important to note all of these happened after june, also around the time where it becomes clear, right that donald trump is going to be the nominee, okay, so that's important to note as well. you don't really have issue with the discussions that there were discussions, but what about this idea that no one can really seem to remember their conversations? should they have made notes? should they have gone in with a clear agenda or with clear items they knew to avoid?
>> sure, i mean, it's conjecture how the meetings would have transpired. i'm sure there were notes taken and they can be subpoenaed. and keep in mind if they're appear before a subcommittee that's a five-year hit. that's a five-year sentence exposure, certainly something to be concerned with. i do not think the meeting or contacts were inappropriate. every administration does that. i don't think the smoke is indicative of fire there, i'm more concerned about whether there was any lying to investigators or leaving out, there's lies of co-mission and lies of omission, that's where we could run into trouble >> when people say i don't
recall, and that's something that hillary clinton was hit dozens of times for, the republicans jumped all over there, but is there a reason to do that, say i do not recall. >> if you're speaking on the record or sworn or under oath, you have to be very careful how you speak and i think a lot of times people appearing in court or in front of a congressional hearing they're very careful with their words. sometimes they'll misspeak or want to be extra careful. i imagine if the attorney general is called back to the intelligence committee or judiciary committee or investigation instan understand going on with the fbi, i imagine there's going to be specific pointed questions that he won't be able to say i don't know
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diplomat is transitioning. we have elise labbit joining us. you site steve bannon and jared kushner emerging as this foreign policy shadow power in the white house. >> that's right. jared kusher has this file of the middle east peace process, he says he wants his son-in-law to negotiate middle east peace. and with rex tillerson at the state department he doesn't have a whole lot of staff. they aren't equipped to provide that policy guidance. i think a lot of people are looking to jared kushner and the white house and general mcmaster for that type of information
about the policy deliberations going inside. and that could provide a challenge for secretary tillerson who is really supposed to be america's top diplomat and should be really in on all these meetings. >> there a culture issue too this idea of going from managing being at a ceo level and then governing because there have been folks in the trump administration who make the case that you can actually bring a certain skill set to this, but has there been a difficulty for tillerson? >> i think he's trying to determine what type of public presence versus kind of private influence he wants to have. we have not seen that much from secretary tillerson. a perfect campbell is today the annual human rights report is being rolled out by the state department usually the secretary of state makes a public address to roll it out to send out a signal about how important human rights is and instead the state
department had a conference call. so we haven't heard much from secretary tillerson, my understanding is he wants to hunker down, the bureaucracy he has inherited, see issues that need to be fixed and coming up to speed on a lot of these issues and many people say he's smart to do that as he builds his credibility with the president and the white house, but sometimes have consequences, he hasn't been to a lot of the meetings with president bush and sending people, and some say look, that's fine when you were a ceo but when you're there to provide guidance to the president and not the top dog anymore, he really needs the get in there and show in washington it's all about power, influence and secretary tillerson doesn't
seem to be very interested that so there have been questions about whether he's really kind of equipped to get into those washington power battles which we know a lot of it is about public diplomacy and optics. >> coming up, is it travel ban revenge. could some be required to obtain a visa? >> e-mail irony, democrats slamming the president after reports stating that vice president mike pence used a personal e-mail account while governor and that account really was hacked.
kentucky senator rand paul is on a mission anxious to find what he calls the secret g.o.p. obamacare bill and accusing his party of keeping republican lawmakers in the dark. he said the obamacare replacement bill is hidden in a secret location, he decided to find out with a scavenger hunt. >> are you concerned it's in a locked room? >> we're going to find out. >> i'm not allowed to be in this area. >> i would like to read the obamacare bill. this is being presented as if this were a national secret. i think there's a bill in there, it's the secret office for the secret bill.
now we have our own copy machine too but we didn't get the use it. i'm told that the republicans have their aca, affordable care act bill repeal somewhere in the capitol. we're going to look for it. it's not here. i can't find the bill. i know mr. lincoln, you are as upset with your party as i am. thank you all. >> i want to bring in my panel now to talk about this, david drucker, senior correspondent for the washington examiner, and
abby phillips. i suppose there's a within why this is under lock and key, tell us why? >> partly because it's not done yet and partly because all of these little successive leaks are proving to be big problems for republican leadership and for the white house. they want to basically get the frame work together, finish it and then have people talk about it and pick it apart. but rand paul does not like that idea and does not like that version of legislating, he's concerned that republicans are creating perhaps a tax credit that he is opposed so, similar to obamacare, just so subsidize insurance for some is -- >> you're not getting rid of the crux of obamacare.
>> guess what i don't think they're going to get rid of the crux of obamacare, other than the mandate. they're going to keep based on preexisting conditions, and keep kids allowed op their parents' insurance until 26 years old. part of it is a really good stunt on rand paul's part. but when they're ready they're going to have to make it a couple of days before a markup. energy an commerce, the main committee that will be going through this bill is going to hold a markup and that means a couple of days before the markup everybody gets to see the bill and throw popcorn at it or tomatoes at it, whatever you want. so we're going to see this, there are a lot of republicans that aren't going to like it because they don't think it goes far enough. president trump if he chooses to get involved, dwoeon't know yet
but think he will get a lot of wayward voters, because they like president trump a lot more than members of congress. >> he might be the whip for republicans in the house if they want to get this through. we have more to talk about. talk about vice president mike pence accused of using a private e-mail account during his tenure as governor. it was hacked, and a report that came to us from the indianapolis star, they broke this story. listen to him. >> let's talk a little bit about why you decided to use your private e-mail for busy. >> i'm confident that it was in full compliance with all indiana laws and my service as vice president will continue --
>> does it give you any insight to hillary clinton and her e-mails? >> no there's no connection between handling classified information, destroying e-mails, we have fully complied with all indiana's laws, we had outside counsel to look at my records to identify any e-mails that ever referenced or mentioned business, state business related activities and as indiana law requires, we transferred all of those to the state of indiana subject to public access laws. >> should all of -- governor release all of the e-mails and did jeff sessions tell you he met with the russian ambassador? >> no, i was not aware that jeff
sessions met with the ambassador, the president and i have full confidence in him, he could have answered the question more clearly but it was clearly unintentional. i think he is corrected the record appropriately and we're just very confident in his ability to lead this agency and respect his decision to recuse himself. >> when do we expect to see the bill? >> thank you, everybody, very so soon? end of month. >> i'm just happy to see dr. price and his new role and we expect to see in a matter of dates a brisk pace of activity, we're going to repeal and replace obamacare, at the same time, we're going to replace obamacare with the kind of solutions that will lower the cost of health insurance for every american, it will be an
ordererly transition to a new and better health care program and ensure we don't leave anyone behind and give states the resources and flexibility to meet the needs to have most vulnerable, but we are working in collaboration with speaker ryan, and members of house and senate, president trump said this week congress is responding and we look forward to ending obamacare and ushering in at the same time a health care system that will serve the needs of the american people in the long term. >> and we expect you are going to give -- some business. i recommend the shepherds pie, or good friday fish fry. >> that does sound good. mike pence and paul ryan are standing next together clearly the white house and on the hill are on the same page. he said there's no comparison in regards to the e-mails, what do
you think? >> i think he was largely correct. hillary clinton was trafficked a lot of information that was classified information, we don't know what kind of security protocalls were in place, she dealt with a whole difficult type of information set than did the governor of indiana. mike pence was governor of indiana at the time. now it's true that some of what was went through mike pence's personal e-mail account did relate to some homeland security updates and the fbi, so that is problematic but i don't think you can look at the two the same way. >> the risk, that's very clear david that the risk that hillary clinton and her team far exceeds the risk when it comes to the type of information going through this e-mail account and in her case a server, but to this point abbey, is part of this problem is perception here that it's not -- that mike pence
might not really have a leg to stand on when he's been critical of hillary clinton? >> he's definitely facing some of those critical comments again now that it's been found out and i think the key part here is that his account was actually compromised. i think we would have a little bit different discussion about a private e-mail account which several people new and, several indiana reporters were aware of the fact he had an aol account. but we know whoever gained access to his contact list and sent spam e-mail to his contact lists is concerning we don't know what was in there, we know it probably wouldn't have been classified information, he doesn't have a clearance to view classified information like the
secretary of state would. but that's why the state of indiana in response to records questions hasn't released all them, but it's a different ball game. it's a much bigger deal dealing with national security issues as secretary of state than state issues as the governor of indiana. >> and when you have a server. that's a very important distinction that david made. for those who don't have the mindset of governors, lawmaker o or secretaries you know about the importance of preserving records, shouldn't that be on your mind when you think about what kind of e-mails you're using? >> in a sense you're dealing with and the communication you're having no longer belongs to you elected officials need to be more cognizant of that, i talked to members of the house
and senate on the hill an not all of them are up to speed or really think about this yet others are very aware to have fact that as public high ranking public officials their communicatio communications matter and i have some senators tell me they will not use e-mail exempt for the most benign uses because they know they will try to be penetrated by foreign entities and i still think it's strange that public officials have not gotten the idea of what it is to use e-mails what servers are you using and how sensitive is the information you're talking about. >> thank you to beth of you. coming up a is a reset possible? we'll give you thoughts on putin's motives and intentions,
>> just -- thank you. okay. thank you. >> why are people on that side of the river so afraid of the -- [ speaking in foreign language ] >> i see. >>. [ speaking in foreign language ] . >> maybe somebody just distracts him and i just leave. i can be polite. >> you were having that reaction because that man threatened to kill you if you were talking
more, right? >> he threatened to cut off my head, yes, that's correct, which i'm sure you hear all the time from your various interviewers. >> i think you were afraid that was literal which might have been the thing. we saw obviously the head dress, but just explain the concept. >> so they are a 500-year-old sect of hinduism, it is just an illusion so to prove that belief these kind of holy men, gugurus will go around and take theatrical plays of you see i'm covered in ashes of the dead, they will eat decaying corpses
to suggest nothing can separate you from god. the idea is beautiful, but i think a way that a number of these holy men express it are problematic. >> you ate something before, what did you eat? >> i ate a piece of a brain. >> from a corpse. >> from a corpse. >> a lot of these live in the kremation grounds along the banks of the river, they believe the lord will provide so a lot of what they eat is in the cremation ground. some of that is left overs of cremated corpses. >> what i discover is that there are many others who have thrown off some of the more sort of
thee theatrical expressions by doing other things like opening or n orphan ageage orphanages, it may seem frightening and scary and foreign but when you really break down into it you find you have a lot more in common with these people than you actually think you did. >> they take care of lep rorlep patients. you can check it out. cnn premier believer sunday night 10 eastern pacific on cnn? >> just in around schwarzenegger