battle. house ways and means committee approving the portion of the bill. 18 hours of debate. >> outside beautiful, inside ugly. the energy committee debating right now. it was an all nightmare on this session. >> president trump making his pitch to skeptical conservatives but the president says he has a plan b. sources tell cnn he will deep obamacare and blame it on the democrats. it's day 49 of the trump administration and we have every development covered starting live on capitol hill.
>> one of those wrapping up this morning but another committee in session at this hour. democrats are using tactics to delay the process of bringing up trump and the tax returns as well as debating tanning while republicans are trying to fast track the legislation. >> as opposition grows to the gop plan to repeal and replace the affordable care act president trump coming up with a back up plan. sources inside an oval office meeting say the president announced if the plan fails he'll allow obamacare to fail and let democrats take the blame. >> let it be a disaster because we can blame that on the dems in our room and the democrats and president obama but that's not the fair thing to do for the people. >> the president telling these skept car length right wing groups he is open to discussing some changes but the american health care act like moving up
the roll back of medicaid expansion to 2018 instead of 2020. the example also chastising them for their opposition according to sources. the president claiming they're quote helping the other side. >> conservatives opposing the bill argue the proposal doesn't go far enough. >> i believe when you look through it is obamacare in a different form. >> it's a lump of coal. >> ryan claiming otherwise. this is a conservative wish list. it repeals taxes, expanding, medicare spending and obamacare subsidies. this returns power from washington back to doctors and patients. >> but the backlash is also coming from the nation's leading hospital and doctor groups concerned about the more than 20 million americans currently enrolled in the system. the american medical association writing we cannot support the
american health care act as drafted because of the expected decline in health insurance coverage. >> he's confident he has the votes to get it passed. also a big task for president trump who will be wooing key members of congress next week. he's inviting them to the white house for a pizza and bowling party to see if he can convince them. >> if that doesn't work, i don't know what will. it works on us. >> works with my 10-year-olds and 11-year-olds at birthday parties. let's bring in our political pan panel. >> you the shortest introduction so you get to go first. let's talk about the state of play on each side. you have the carat and the stick
the bowling and pizza party and then you also have him saying that trump is going to have football stadium events in state where is he won by 10 to 12 points. he's going to dare people to vote against him. that would be the stick. how is it playing out? >> we'll see how it does play out but he's not necessarily talking about democrats he's talking about republicans and talking about doing it sooner rather than later meaning primary challenges and they have said they will do anything to get the agenda through which means you can see adds running against republicans that are not supportive of this bill. >> it's interesting to have this insight into how president trump is beginning to sell the bill. so he invited in his conservative groups. there was heritage and tea party patriots and he basically just
started you know saying i'm going to go to the red states and have these big stadium sized period events, that sounds effective. >> i think it's highly effective. if you take donald trump and unleash him it could be very powerful and it's a matter of time. how do you allocate his time? is that a good use of his time but this is a guy that number one in person donald trump is very charming. number two he's the president of the united states. we forget how big of a deal that is. he is also a celebrity. so i think he can move some of these votes through charm but he's also more popular with the republican base than most of the senators and congressmen are in their home district. so if he goes out and starts criticizing them publicly he could probably move votes that
way too. >> all right. this is on going right now. they finished at about 4:00 in the morning. they got the votes there so that's the first step the white house needed to get the agenda going. the energy committee is still debating now. we're trying to grab one of them on break to tell us about what's going on. what do we see what the democrats are doing? i did not hear better ideas coming out of the democrats or them scrutinizing the plan with facts and figures. they were just delaying and saying this is wrong. is that the tactic? >> it's tactics. it's exactly that. >> they want to try to win the policies. this is what would happen to your premiums without subsidies but donald trump, president trump has the rally and knows
how to communicate so if democrats are going to get up in the house and senate and hold press conferences people are watching on cspan they're not fighting toe to eto. now the question though is that president trump ultimately to get this through he needs these republicans and it's still likely to me that people like suzanne collins and some of the house freedom caucus members they have had problems with president trump for months now and he can go to maine and colorado and ohio and shout to the rafters and get his base rallied but some of these republican house members and republican senators they haven't been that close to him from the beginning and the ability maybe limited there. >> do you agree it won't hurt them? >> well, some of them are not going to be hurt. the question is we go down into
the deep south, perhaps, will he go into some of these districts and, well, they're more vulnerable within their own base. >> doesn't he have the biggest stick of all without having to be a bully? this is what we all campaigned on. this is a real binding agent for our base. >> i think it was yesterday he went before republican, the republican congressman and said, you're either for nancy pelosi and obamacare or your for repealing obamacare. this is it. >> the problem is they got close on health care reform and then said okay this is our one shot to get it and then they became divided over what the health reform package looked like and this was a major problem in the 90s they felt like we have the
votes and the energy and they all ran on it and they couldn't agree with the senate and the clinton white house in terms of what the final package is. >> let's get it done fast and we'll worry about the details later. >> we heard this over and over and over again and the dog finally caught the car and doesn't know what to do. one of the biggest arguments is your guest yesterday that said we passed balm care several times through the house and the senate and it never got signed. all of a sudden, why are we doing the new bill now. >> so where does that leave us? right now let's say they get the votes in the energy committee right now then what? what happens next? this is the reconciliation process. >> so there's three phases but they want to do this before like
april 15th for two reasons. if republicans go back home on recess there's going to be protests and town halls and they could lose people and this has to be done during reconciliation. at some point they have to deal with the budget. so time is not on their side. that's why they are rushing this through and that's why this is very tenuous. >> paul ryan made it clear he believes ultimately they have to have the votes in the house and want it done by april 15th. they want house members to go back and say we did our job. now the pressure is on the senate. >> if you're afraid of counter pressure and they lose a budget win if they don't get it done. >> they lose a budge win and house members, all of them are up for re-election. >> and if they lose the
reconciliation window then it's 60 votes in the senate and not 51 and that's a totally different ball game. >> we have many more questions for you. meanwhile, mike pence now added to the list of the administration officials offering no proof of president trump's claims that former president obama wiretapped trump tower during the campaign. dodging the question during an interview last night. meanwhile, they're pressing the fbi now for any evidence. sarah murray is live in washington with the latest. >> good morning, allison, still no proof coming out of this white house about the president's wiretapping claim. instead they're saying we're going to leave it up to the hill to look into that. two senators a republican and democrat are now saying we're going to do just that. >> there's no reason to believe that he is the target of any investigation. >> the white house attempting to clarify president trump's unfounded claim that former president obama ordered
wiretapping of trump tower during last year's election. marking another day of distraction stemming from tweets over the weekend. >> the other is an investigation. they're two separate issue. >> vice president mike pence dodging questions about his boss's wiretapping accusation. >> the president alleged the former president committed a felony. yes or no, do you believe that president obama did that? >> well, what i can say is that the president and our administration are very confident that the congressional committees examining issues surrounding the last election, the run up to the last election will do that in a thorough and equitable way. >> now his trump may be backfiring. inspiring a group of lawmakers to look for proof. >> be careful what you wish for. >> republican senator lindsey graham and sheldon white house penning a letter to the justice
department and the fbi asking for evidence. writing we would take any abuse of wiretapping authorities for political purposes very seriously. we would be equally alarmed to learn that a court found enough evidence of criminal activity or contact to authorize a wiretap. >> the president asked congress to look into whether or not his campaign was wiretapped by the obama administration. ly take up that challenge. >> meanwhile the investigation into russian meddling in the election continues. four sen tors taking their search to the cia to review raw intelligence. >> you have more questions now and more information to get access to. >> as the trump administration continues to forcefully deny any collusion between russian officials and their campaign. >> the president made clear he has no interest in russia and yet a lot of the stories that come out with respect to that are frankly fake. >> now sources tell cnn that
president trump's chief of staff had a conversation with president obama's former chief of staff. so far though no conversations we are aware of between president trump, former president obama. we will see if the two of them talk that out. back to you guys. >> thank you very much. we'll get deeper into the president's wiretap claim. they trust the answers will come from congressional investigations but no one can get the answer faster than they can. so is this all just a distraction? the facts, next. (vo) this is not a video game. this is not a screensaver. this is the destruction of a cancer cell by the body's own immune system, thanks to medicine that didn't exist until now. and today can save your life. ♪
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>> wasn't it. >> i don't know what he's talking about. that was sean spicer trying to clarify what is and what is not under investigation about the president and russia and wiretapping. now that was moments after an aid had come in and handed spicer a note, from whom, unclear. >> apparently had arrows going all of these different directions. >> but first he said no there isn't a federal investigation then. >> see that's how good it was. >> first he said donald trump could be under federal investigation. >> first he could be under investigation. then he said yes maybe no. no yes. yes no. let's discuss with our political panel. so that was incomprehensible. >> and here's the situation. by donald trump putting that
tweet out on saturday morning he is acknowledging that he is being investigated but by them and now we saw this mental, verbal gymnastics yesterday where they try to walk it back and say that's not true so they put themselves into a corner by that tweet on saturday in many ways. >> what is going on here at this point with the wiretapping and the absence of proof and the allegation made by the person that could get the proof most ea easily leads you to believe we're in the realm of distraction now. how do they keep the high ground. >> we don't know that he is named in any investigations yet but this is very confused. >> did you get it? >> not really. >> i think what they're saying
is rather than going to a court and having some sort of probable cause that barrack obama actually sneaked into trump tower personally and planted a wire: that's what i'm getting. >> i like the visual. it's very weird. i don't think it's an intentional distraction. a lot of times we talk about how donald trump will send out a tweet to distract from another scandal. this is a case of a guy that woke up saturday morning and read something. >> but do we want the intentional distraction or do we feel comfortable with the fact that. >> i'd rather have the intentional distraction but i'm not completely sold on your point. there was a phrase in that tweet that doesn't get a lot of attention. i was just told or i just found out. from who? >> if it wasn't these crazy articles what was it. >> we all remember donald trump
tweeting something strange is going on and there's no, the president does not fact check himself. he gets up in the morning especially and sends out these tweets. >> but the part about breitbart or fox news that's where he gets his information. we know because there's a report. >> when he says i just learned you're saying our best bet is that it's tied to those outlets. not that some official came to him. >> that's my read of it. >> the question is you have the president of the united states who has access to the attorney general of the united states and the fbi director who if he has questions can go to those people and ask. >> during the campaign.
>> the fbi director quickly came out and said this came out behind the scenes. this isn't true. >> but that's critical that he came out and did that. >> behind the scenes. >> you talk about an on going investigation right? so you back channel it through sources and you have him basically saying i have no idea what he's talking about and we have clapper coming out saying i know nothing about this. >> let's get to what's happening today because senator lindsey graham is actually trying to deal in reality and he's going through the normal processes of trying to get to the bottom of this. heres what his plan is. >> the president asked congress to look into whether or not his campaign was wiretapped by the obama administration. i'll take thaup that challenge we sent a letter to the department of justice and fbi asking them for any information they may have used to obtain a warrant.
i expect them to come forbard as to whether or not a warrant was obtained or solved. >> will you subpoena this information if they don't comply. >> yes. >> does the future of the republic rest in the hands of lindsey graham? >> possibly. they have been the voice of reason and during the campaign you might recall donald trump was asked where do you get your foreign policy intels and he was like i watch the shows. and where as lindsey graham is saying maybe we get subpoena for this. >> lindsey graham has been new orleans long time ally or friend. he likes to make mischief.
he likes to get to the bottom of things. >> it's a great match up now. >> he is saying i want to take it on. he has serious subpoena power. >> what is the relevance of obama former chief of staff, what does that mean? what can it yield? >> first of all it had to be an uncomfortable conversation between these two men. i think the bridge is burned and i have no desire now. >> called him bad or sick. >> i would have no -- by the way, let's just go back to he was never born in the united states. >> so they made amends during the transfer of power and, in fact, donald trump saidly call upon him and president obama said i hope he will call upon me and they have not spoken as they
understand. >> so remember obama saying all is forgiven. >> no but they made nice. >> we probably make too much of this whole thing. i don't think donald trump snuck in and planted a wiretap. >> good because you don't want to suggest it. >> barrack obama does seem to be running a sort of shadow campaign against donald trump. >> based on what? >> a lot of reporting. whether we're going to talk about the leaks from bureaucrats or the story holding up inside obama's washington mansion, whether it's the eric holder looking at redistricting. he's a young active guy living in d.c. and he'll probably be pulling strings to help defeat donald trump. >> president trump is as involved in this. he made this decision that this
russian story line narrative of his campaign is not going away. legitimacy questions are not going away. so he is going to obama and this is all some scheme by nasty democrats that lost an election and as we know he will tweet about anything. >> both things can be true. >> donald trump is paranoid but i think obama is behind the scenes. >> did you give us the he may be paranoid but doesn't mean people aren't after him. >> gentlemen, thank you very much. >> why you saved that for the end i have no idea. that was the best point. >> i forgot i said it. so u.s. marines deployed to syria in the fight against isis. yes. there are more american boots on the ground.
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sources tell cnn president trump has chosen john huntsman to be the u.s. ambassador to russia. what challenges will huntsman now face. what will he present in terms of pluses and minuses. former u.s. ambassador to russia. mr. ambassador, good to see you. >> john huntsman on the obvious positive side and outspoken critic. how does that play into his
decision. >> having somebody with an independent voice and set of eyes, ears and good brain which is certainly just a minimal description of john huntsman's enormous attributes is a good thing to add a sense of balance and perspective. with russia, we are caught on the horns of a dilemma. some people want to see them as the next enemy and no possibility of any working around with them and others want to glorify them as the new messiah on the scene and president trump is just a wonderful guy we can all deal with. neither of those views have any real sense of reality. and he is an individual who can bring a great sense of reality he speaks mandarin and speaks international politics and he's a remarkably good choice to this job. >> tough job isn't it?
in terms of what is the basic guidance you would have for john huntsman in tackling us right now when russia has become such a topic of conversation. >> i would say form his own judgment about what is real, what is true, what is an opportunity and what are the challenges. our relationship with russia over the years has been difficult and in sometimes very tense and sometimes very confrontational. and together against terrorism. we work together in afghanistan the russians permitted supply. the russians worked with us closely under the international space station. we tried to work with them on syria and some of that has begun to come back again and there's a number of things there that formed a basis for moving. a critical question for john
huntsman. as for this administration it can be rather than add notes of confrontation add notes of sanity, of care, of stability in that relationship rather than talk about the possibility of using nuclear weapons. the experts can tell us 10 ways we can make mistakes and have accidents and slide into nuclear use but i don't know if there's anybody that can tell you once it get gogs how can you stop it. not just the united states and russia but the planet. we need to keep our deturrent strong but we need to speak clearly and rationally and put together the next steps in making that more stable even as we look at repairing it if there is any difficulties or dangers there. >> let me ask you something, all of this investigating into contacts between the trump
campaign staff and current staff and russia, how unusual are these different points of contact? are you more interested in what was done or what was not disclosed. >> look, chris, what has been a serious problem has morphed into a situation where we have demonized contacts from russia. our works with the russian contacts are essential. but he is a friend and is also a diplomat and very, very smart and very intelligence guy and anybody that would want to know about u.s. russian relationships would want to strikeout and talk to ambassador about how he sees things and what is going on. that point of view, that opinion is significant in the mix. it won't be the final answer for
everything. but failing to make those contacts is i think a bigger fault than having the contacts at a time when the situation is obviously swinging between the two extremes i just explained to you. >> so you don't think that the fact that flynn was meeting with the ambassador and talking to the ambassador or the same with jeff sessions none of that concerns you but you say the problem is telling the truth. what do you mean then? what's the concern? >> we all know that general flynn had a problem possibly with the vice president in terms of depicting the conversation he had. that's an internal matter within the administration but it has consequences obviously, secondly attorney general sessions in his hearings said something about his context and doesn't seem to have reflected what happened and
it's trying to explain to the committee what happened. those are the points of concern. not whether we speak to the russians or not. >> so the concern becomes why was it not fully disclosed. appreciate the perspective as always. >> what is president trump telling the people closest to him about those wiretapping allegations? mr. trump's personal friend joins us just ahead. hello, welcome. so chevy is the most awarded car company three years in a row. wow. really... let's see how quickly you can read through all their awards. oh gosh... lot of pressure. you ready? go! 2017 motor trend car of the year. kelley blue book 2016 best resale value... 2016 j.d. power highest quality breaking... ack. 10 best blah blah blah 2017 iihs...top safety. only about 90 more to go! 2015 2017 north american car of the year! that's a lot of awards! who would of thought? great, now i'm going to have to go buy a new car.
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president obama wiretapped trump tower. let's ask one of the close friends. he runs several conservative media outlets. great to have you here. >> great to be on. >> you spoke with president trump on saturday. >> yes. >> after the tweet storm about the accusations of president obama wiretapping him and trump tower. you wrote about it in news max
and used rather colorful language. let me read it for our viewers. i spoke with the president twice saturday. i haven't seen him this upset in a long time. when i mentioned denials about the wiretaps he shot back this will be investigated. it will all come out. i will be proven right. you haven't spoken to him since then. did he tell you then on saturday where he was getting his information? >> no, and i didn't ask. i wasn't there as a member of the press to ask him a lot of questions but he certainly was -- i had just seen him after he first came off the golf course. so he tweeted in the morning and spent four hours on the golf course. he didn't know the implications of how much the press picked up the story now. he is a new york guy. you know, they tell you how they think they show they can go on to other things and it's not
bothering them. >> since then the president moved on with replacing obamacare and other things. >> once you toss the grenade in the building everybody else has to deal with the clean up and of course it's up to the press so say where is he getting that. and james clapper denies it. do you believe chris that it came from a radio show. >> i don't know where it came from. the president said it will come out. i'm waiting for the evidence just like he sand you are and i don't speak for him. i don't speak to the white house. when you raise the issue of the press, there's a real problem with the press and many conservativ conservatives. you just said there were denials. comey never officially denied it. they just said he did not personally order the wiretap. >> yeah. he doesn't like to come out publicly i know. he broke that rule.
>> he's done it several times before. >> so in other words you think that you're still operating from the assumption that it might be true. >> there's a lot of people that think the campaign at one point or another but let's get back to the press for a second. it's important. it was the most accurate poll and found that 54% of americans are weary of the negative press attention against the president. the usa today poll showed this week that 48% of americans are giving him a positive approval. that is higher than what obama had most of his years. why do you think there's such a disconnect between the press and networks like cnn, msnbc and others that are so critical of the president and the american people that are still supporting him so strongly. >> we have other poll numbers we could bounce up here about his numbers but i have some questions for you, chris about what's happening today. >> sure. >> the replacement for the obamacare affordable care act. here are some headlines from
conservative media sites. obamacare 2.0 guts enforcement and gives illegal aliens health care through identity fraud. five serious problem with the republican replacement for obamacare. obamacare 2.0. repeal and replace in name only. do you think mr. trump has been surprised by the conservative push back against the plan. >> i haven't spoken to him. i can't say what his reaction is. i do think obamacare is for him and the congress and i do think they should have lead with tax reform and infrastructure. two popular things. >> why didn't he leave things you think are more winning. >> congress, the public and the press, certainly the press are giving this impression this is an autocratic president. it was congress pushing for this paul ryan. it was some of the state governors that wanted the changes. donald trump actual lay agrees
with barrack obama on the idea that everybody should get universal coverage. >> right. >> he has said that. >> that's not what conservatives want. there's a problem. >> they should have treated obamacare as a process to fix. >> this is a guy that has never been in washington and he is coming off and he is on a learning curve. he has some very big things coming down the pike including the tax reform and the infrastructure is going to be very popular. i personally think what they should have done is radically expanded medicaid coverage. >> does your friend mr. trump know that you're on cnn. you know he's not a big fan at the moment. >> through the month since the election i think of one press
organization he is most critical of all the time. >> i don't ask him for permission. i don't think he cares where i belong. he knows i'm an independent media person and i speak to all parties so i think at the end of the day i know the president says the press is the enemy of the people. i think what he is doing is creating a negotiating position with the press. the press is acting like an opposition party. >> where does it leave us? what are we supposed to be negotiating? >> let's start with the fact that they leaked super secret conversations president trump had with heads of state. within hours of the conversation to embarrass the president when he spoke to the president of mexico, the prime minister of australia. that was a criminal offense. >> there were also white house sources. >> no it was intelligence sources i doubt the supporters of the president in the white house. why is