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ailes had to resign, this is still a challenge for the murdochs, for the owners of 21st century fox, that they continue to deal with harassment and assault allegations from former employees of the network. >> brian, thank you. andrew, thank you very much. let's roll on, hour two. all right, we continue on, you're watching cnn, i'm brooke baldwin. thank you for being with me. the most republican -- powerful republican in congress just rolled up his sleeves today, laid it out all on the line for this new plan to replace obamacare. seven years of promises have led to right now, house speaker paul ryan said today, and he made it clear to his fellow republicans, you are either with us or you are against us. >> this is the closest we will ever get to repealing and replacing obamacare. the time is here, the time is now. this is the moment and this is the closest this will ever happen. it really comes down to a binary
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choice. >> as speaker ryan puts the pressure on, the president seems to be brushing off the mounting opposition from seniors and doctors and hospitals against the american health care act. president trump tweeted this, quote, despite what you hear in the press, health care is coming along great. we are talking to many groups and it will endi in a beautiful picture! let's go to jeff zeleny. we know speaker ryan declared now is the time, this is the plan. last hour at the white house briefing, the tone seemed to me more open to phases or changes. how did you interpret that? >> indeed, brooke. that is definitely the president's plan here. he is saying, look, he is open to making small changes in this. he is listening to all these concerns from these conservative groups. but going back to his tweet for one second, i've talked to a lot of people here and republicans on capitol hill. they were struck by it will be a beautiful picture. they said, look, legislation is
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seldom beautiful. how the sausage gets made in washington is often ugly. they were struck by that. but look, i think the president is open to hearing concerns. the challenge here for it is everything is sort of built together. and speaker ryan is laying out a plan as he believes should be. he is not really open to that changes in it because you start changing a couple of things and it falls apart. this was sean spicer at the briefing earlier explaining the president's view. >> i think the president has said before he wants to hear members' ideas. he believes that this bill encompasses the best of ideas and the best way forward. but again, we're going to let the process work as well through the house and subsequently through the senate. if members have ideas, we want to hear them, wanting them to be part of it. this isn't getting jammed through. >> he says this isn't getting jammed through, but some republicans disagree. tom cotton, the republican senator from arkansas, he was
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tweeting last evening saying, house, slow down, you're going too fast here, you're trying to run this through. so the criticism of it being jammed through is coming from republicans. we are in the middle of a republican feud, if you will, and it's the challenge of this president to bring all sides together. not saying he can't, this is an open process here, but this rollout is not what they hoped for or expected. >> republican governor of arkansas just admitted, yes, it's a process, what we're looking at now may not be exactly what gets through, but complicated and the sausage, to your point, ain't always pretty. at the white house, president trump is launching a major charm offensive to the republican critics of this plan to replace obamacare. according to sources who were present at a meeting in the oval office wednesday, the president said this. if the effort to pass this plan goes down, then allow obamacare to fail and let the democrats take the blame. joining me now, someone who was
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at said meeting with the president of the united states, in fact this is video of her with the group leaving the white house after it ended, so with me now, jenny beth martin, the co-founder of the tea party patriot citizens fund and also john hart, the editor in chief of opportunity lives and an advisor to the one nation health coalition. so welcome to both of you. thank you both for being here. jenny beth, first to you. you were in the room. how did the president do with his pitch? did he have a good grasp at a fairly complicated issue? >> well, he went through and pointed out that there are three different phases. on monday night that was not communicated very well from the house republican leadership. on tuesday, that message was more apparent. he went through it again when i met with him yesterday. the first phase is the bill that we see right now, the reconciliation bill. the second phase would be health and human services secretary tom
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price will do with regulations and the third phase is a bill that is not a reconciliation bill but would require the 60-vote threshold to be able to come to a final vote in the senate. he talked about all three of those items, that's part of the repeal and replace process that he's going through. and we -- the groups who were there with me, we all discussed our serious concerns about the bill. we're concerned because it does not fully repeal obamacare. it does not remove the insurance company regulations, which are driving costs up. >> it doesn't go far enough for you? >> what we are concerned about is that it's not just that it doesn't go far enough, that it's going to cause the prices to go up even further. and that is not what the hard working men and women of america who voted to give the republicans the majority in the house and then in the senate and now in the white house, voted for when they voted for repeal and replace of obamacare.
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>> john, how do you see this? >> well, look, i think this bill is an important first step. it's imperfect. but we have to account a. obamacare is collapsing. republicans are doing this because they care about people. this is not about politics or process. we've seen premiums increase by 25%. the cost of obamacare's broken promises about $6200 per person. so that's enough for a year's worth of moorage payments for somebody who's making 40 or $50,000 a year. so this plan is not perfect will move us what's most important from a government centered system to a patient centered system that will introduce competition, choice, access and lower costs for every american family. >> it seems to me, though, john, just staying with you, neither the republicans in congress or in the white house are owning it yet. to quote one of our commentators, it's sort of this orphan bill at the moment. you saw speaker ryan today, and
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i keep painting this picture because it was great to see, sleeves rolled up, powerpoint presentation, obviously very familiar with the instant kraess of this bill -- >> i think it's him showing leadership. the story that isn't being told is the republicans have had alternative bills over a decade. i worked for one when i was an aide for tom coburn. paul ryan was our sponsor on the house side called the patient's choice act. so there's a very spirited family debate happening between competing plans. but what's being missed is that the democrats have no plan. partisanship is not a plan, denial is not a plan. we have an obamacare plan that former president clinton -- >> what do you mean they have a plan? they eventually passed obamacare. >> right, right, but there's no plan to fix obamacare. even democrats are saying that this is collapsing. that this is a train wreck,
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according to max baucus who was the chairman of the senate financial committee that helped write obamacare. so democrats know they have to act as well and they should be falling over themselves to work with republicans to find an solution. this is an issue that should unite it, it shouldn't divide us. health care is about people, it's about relationships, and we need to focus on lowering costs, improving access and protecting people who are being hurt by the status quo. >> jenny beth, you mentioned off the top in listening to president trump that he mentioned the three stages. i think sean spicer called this a three-pronged phased plan. are you surprised maybe that the president or the white house was so caught off guard on this, in the sense that it's not as easy as one would think, getting something like this through congress? >> my surprise is not really with the white house. like john just said and what we heard from the president, we can
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all agree obamacare is a disaster. it's causing prices to go up. it is not doing what it was intended to do. what i conveyed to the president is that the supporters of tea party patriots, who are the people that helped get him elected and who are his voters, we want to make sure that we can help him keep his promise to repeal obamacare and to lower costs. what i'm surprised by is that the house would introduce a bill that benefits the insurance companies so much and leaves -- if this bill passes as it is right now, we're going to look back at it and say once again, washington, d.c., forgot about the hard working men and women of this country. we cannot do that. we have a tremendous opportunity in front of us and i'm very hopeful that we can fix what has been introduced so we do achieve the goals that we share with president trump. >> i think we can all agree this is a process, it will take a little time, but also we want something that benefits people
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who need health care so desperately in this country. we're going to go for now. i appreciate you very much. just into cnn, senators are now revealing exactly who they want to talk about this investigation into the trump's campaign ties to russia, who they want in the hot seat. that's ahead from capitol hill. also, a dramatic drop in border crossings at the u.s./mexico border. so we'll explore whether or not it's president trump's hard line rhetoric that could be behind that. i'm brooke baldwin, this is cnn.
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we're back. we've got some breaking news for you. senators telling cnn they want a number of president trump's
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campaign associates to testify over this investigation into their contacts with russia. so let's go to capitol hill to our senior congressional correspondent, manu raju. so they're saying we want answers and we want to talk to x, y and z. if not, we'll subpoena them. am i right? >> yeah, that's right. that's right. actually what the senate intelligence committee has under its rules gives significant powers for members to subpoena any of those witnesses if they decide not to come. what i'm told from a number of those senators, they want to hear directly from those trump officials who allegedly had some conversations or contacts with russian government officials during the time of the elections. now, this comes as this committee is ramping up its investigation. actually a number of senators went to langley, virginia, to cia headquarters today to pore over data. i'm told by senators that data showed how russia was heavily involved in trying to hack and influence this election, but they want to go a step further
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in this investigation, determine if there were any contacts between trump officials and russian officials. james langford, a republican from oklahoma, who sits on the committee talked to me about this issue just moments ago. >> do you think it would be help. to have michael flynn, carter page, manafort, people who have had connections allegedly contacts with russians to come and testify before the committee? >> we're trying to get all the background and information currently that all of those agencies have and why some of those names got floated and it's entirely reasonable to be able to visit with some of those people and ask specific questions about it. it's not unusual to do, it's a normal part of our process, not only to get background information but also conversation with people in interviews. >> have you asked them to appear yet? >> i'm not going to talk about who we have and haven't talked to about it. when we've gone through the interviews at this point, we've had to do no subpoenas. we've been able to have the people we want to appear be able to talk with us. >> now, brooke, the question is where does this go from here. one issue some members are
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pushing on is to try to get donald trump's tax returns to look into whether or not there are any russia ties with the president of the united states. dianne feinstein, who sits on the committee, told me just moments ago, quote, the tax returns become a primary lead into a russia connection and that would be russia money and his businesses. they're open to subpoena, to try to use their subpoena power to get those tax returns. one other piece of news, brooke, fbi director james comey is on the hill this afternoon briefing some house leaders on this issue of russia in a closed door, private, classified meeting that is happening at this hour. we'll see what more we can learn as this investigation on capitol hill ramps up. >> police do let us know. having the fbi chief on the hill is always significant. let's begin there. i've got gloria borger with me, cnn chief political analyst. just on manu's reporting, interesting this could be one attempt to try to see those tax
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records. maybe pigs will fly before that happens. but secondly, the carter pages and paul manaforts of the world, if they don't say yes willingly, they absolutely could be subpoenaed. >> absolutely could be subpoenaed. the big question here, everybody seems to agree who's looked at a lot of documents, that the russians were trying to -- were doing hacking and were trying to influence the election, period. that's kind of almost a given at this point. >> yeah. >> and i think the next step, and the next big question is collusion. >> yes. >> was there any collusion on the part of people in donald trump's orbit? not necessarily people running the campaign. >> not direct. >> but in the orbit who said -- were there any communications? i mean this is what -- this is what i think langford is talking about, this is what dianne feinstein is talking about, this is what senator warner was talking about to manu yesterday. i think what you do when you do this kind of an investigation,
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is you broaden out the circles and then you narrow them, right? and so what they do is they're casting the net right now, and they want to talk to people to see if indeed there were any communications between people who were in the orbit of donald trump and russians who wanted to influence the election on his behalf. it's a very logical way to proceed. >> what about moving on to the wiretapping, you know, these allegations of -- without evidence of president trump's, trump tower, with regard to president obama, and now apparently the democrats are calling for another investigation. >> well -- >> what's that about? >> i think they're calling his bluff basically. i think that, you know, you have sean spicer originally coming out after donald trump tweeted last saturday -- was that only last saturday? >> only last saturday morning. >> tweeted last saturday. you had the white house coming
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out. one way for them to deal with this was to try and say we want congress to investigate it. and it's a way to get it off their plate so they could start talking about health care, which they also have to deal with, and to kind of move it to one side. and so now congress is saying, okay, you put it on our plate, we're going to investigate it. yes, we are. and so, you know, i think they're kind of calling his bluff on that saying we want to see records, we want to know more. even though as we all know, the president could put an end to this by releasing what he knows because he is the only one who can declassify that information. >> last hour press secretary sean spicer says he is unaware of a former counter intelligence investigation into president trump but we do have new sound from the vice president here. he was caught by a local tv affiliate and he was asked about whether or not essentially he believes that there was any wiretapping. here's the vice president. >> yes or no, do you believe that president obama did that? >> well, what i can say is that
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the president and our administration are very confident that the congressional committees in the house and senate that are examining issues surrounding the last election, the run-up to the last election will do that in a thorough and equitable way. >> he's in a sticky place. how do you answer that and how does -- does an answer like that even further deilegitimatize th accusation? >> he was given a yes or no question and that was not a yes or no answer. he was tap dancing. again, what we were talking about before, the way he's tap dancing is, okay, it's now in congress' court and they're going to investigate it and they're going to look into it. that way he doesn't have to answer the yes or no question. and i don't know whether the vice president knows exactly what the president is referring to. i don't know whether he's asked him and i don't know whether he's gotten an answer. we all know the stories that the
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president may have read something in breitbart or whatever. but i think it's a convenient way for them to get it off their plate right now and talk about what they want, which is health care reform, which is what he's trying to sell. >> i got some information in my ear as i was listening to you on senator orrin hatch in utah, lobbied for trump and he will be, correct me guys, will be running for re-election, correct? >> 82 -- >> how old is he, guys? he's an octogenarian. >> he's been a trump supporter. and now that jon huntsman is going to be the ambassador to moscow, he was thinking of a senate race. now you have orrin hatch saying he's going to run for the senate. was it shermanesque? did he say definitely, definitely? >> guys, you have the wire in front of you. i don't know, but he will be
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running, so there's that. one other piece that i was handed, in a direct challenge to the white house, this is from the office of government ethics, saying it remains concerned, quote, by the misuse of position by kellyanne conway for endorsing ivanka trump's products in that tv interview, a couple of weeks ago on fox. it was like, hey, go out and buy ivanka trump products at nordstrom. so the office of government ethics is rebuking the white house for handling or maybe not fully handling kelly dlanne. >> i think there's going to be this tug of war between the office of government ethics and this white house. you're going to see it constantly, whether it relates to the trump hotel and who's staying there and spending their money there or the divestment -- trump's divestment from his businesses, or ivanka trump, should she take a formal role in the administration, or kellyanne conway. and i think that there's going to be a lot of questions that
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the white house counsel's office is going to have to deal with with the office of government ethics, because they have two different jobs and the counselor to the president is trying to represent the president and the people in the white house, kellyanne conway, they're his clients. and the office of government ethics doesn't have them as his clients. his clients are the american people and the ethics rules. and so i think you're going to see this back and forth many, many times, brooke. >> you're so good. gloria borger, thank you very much. >> thank you. coming up next, president trump chooses former utah governor jon huntsman to serve as bambassador to russia despit a rocky past. why do some trump critics get the job and others are shunned? we'll talk about that coming up.
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according to sources to cnn, former utah governor jon huntsman has accepted trump's off to serve as the next u.s. ambassador to russia. huntsman a former ambassador to china, a republican. this new move may come as a surprise to some given the criticisms mr. trump and mr. huntsman have hurled at one another. let's bring in michelle kosinski. it is nice to see you. why don't you remind us of the things that have been said between these two and how this is quite a job to take on. >> yeah, it is. i mean you have russia hacking, you have the situations in syria and ukraine. there's a lot there. you look at jon huntsman's record as a former governor, former ambassador to china. one of the things that really jumps out about this choice as you mentioned is the fact that he has criticized donald trump in the past to the point that he actually urged him to drop out of the presidential race. so you have to think for
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president trump to be looking past that now, he must have a very good reason for doing so and the trump administration does gain a few things from this choice. former utah governor jon huntsman, trump's choice for ambassador to russia, is the latest player in one of the u.s.' most complicated relationships. but huntsman only months ago after the release of the "access hollywood" tape of donald trump saying lewd things about women called for trump to drop out, telling "the salt lake city tribune" the campaign had become a race to the bottom at such a critical time for our nation and for so many have tried to be respectful of a primary vote, it's time for governor pence to lead the ticket. president obama appointed huntsman ambassador to china. back then it was trump who slammed him by tweet. jon huntsman called to see me. i said no. he gave away our country to china. also calling him weak, a
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lightweight and easy pickins. huntsman in january offered a much friendlier tone. >> we talked by phone. we've exchanged thoughts and ideas. i congratulated him on the race. and i wished him the best of success. and i really do hope that he is successful, because i've got two boys serving in the military of the united states. we all wanti the best for our country, particularly during tumultuous times. >> now trump has looked past the criticism that has brought down others. like elliott abrams 96ed as secretary of state. maunts serve ehuntsman served a of the council that criticized vladimir putin. and trump manages what might be a favor for his supporter, owner hitch. huntsman who oncin tender for hatch was rumored to be a
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contender for that seat. >> jon huntsman was rumored as a possible opponent for president obama. what did president obama do? he named jon huntsman the ambassador to china. the joke at the time was keep your friends close and your enemies in china. the president needs senator orrin hatch who's head of the finance committee. he's going to be intricate in the health care and tax reform. >> hatch has helped him get his cabinet picks approved. as the longest serving senator, his seat might just be safe. huntsman gets a big job and trump gets his ambassador to help him deal with putin. so if huntsman is confirmed and does become ambassador to russia, you also have to question how much will his own views and his own experience come into play when so much of foreign policy seems to be directed and very closely held
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within the white house. brooke. >> michelle, thank you so much. michelle kosinski at state for us. coming up next, u.s. marines arrive in northern syria, bringing artillery for u.s.-backed forces there. we'll talk live to the former u.s. ambassador to syria to find out what this fight means against isis, how significant this is. stars and stripes waving high in syria. [vo] quickbooks introduces jeanette.
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oh, she's an efficient officiant. way to grow, jeanette. new. get paid twice as fast for free. visit quickbooks-dot-com. u.s. marines have just arrived in syria ahead of a crucial battle against isis. these marines are there to help u.s.-backed forces on a mission to retake the city ultimately of
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raqqah. raqqah the effective capital city for isis militants. the pentagon is not confirming the marine deployment because of security concerns, so we don't actually know how many marines are in syria or their exact location. joining me now, former u.s. ambassador to syria, robert ford. mr. ambassador, welcome. >> thank you. nice to be with you. >> you know, we're seeing some pictures, and let's just call them u.s. forces there on the ground in syria waving the stars and stripes. from what i read from a pentagon spokesperson saying that the presence of even the flag is very deliberate for visibility reasons. what do you make of that? >> well, the u.s. forces in iraq have two components and they have two missions. >> i'm sorry in iraq or syria? >> sorry, in syria, excuse me. first, there are u.s. special forces operating in syria, and they have been there for a long time. they have been there for more than a year. they are working against the islamic state in coordination
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with syrian kurdish fighters and a growing force of syrian arab fighters. they work, for example, these american special operations forces with the american air force which is bombing targets, islamic state targets in syria. that's been going on for a long time. that's not new. the marine deployment of artillery by contrast is new, and that would be an expansion of the mission so that now we're going to provide not just calm p -- combat air support along with special advisers on the ground but now we're going to be firing artillery as well. now, there's a second mission which the americans have also started and just in the past week and that's the pictures you're talking about with the american flag. the defense department announced at the beginning of this week that there would be some special operations forces deployed not against the islamic state, but rather as peace keepers between
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warring syrian factions in the city of menage up close to the syrian/turkish border. not against the islamic state but as peace keepers. that's a new and very different mission. >> what about, ambassador ford, though, the actual presence of these marines and the artillery that you reference. is this a risky move, is this a positive move just with your knowledge and experience with syria, how do you see it? >> well, so far during the two years and more that we've had u.s. forces in combat in syria, we've only suffered one killed in action, one american service member killed. that was last november. these artillery units i don't think will be up on the very front lines. artillery is normally stationed back behind and so is a little more distanced from isis fighters, but of course they will be targets if isis with infiltrate suicide bombers or
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something through. for sure they would like to get close to those american marines. i actually think the forces deployed on the peacekeeping mission up in menij are -- >> how so. >> they're in the middle of four different warring armies, syrian government, syrian kurds, turkish army and turkish-backed syrian rebels. they're all fighting each other. you're going to put americans into the middle of that. for example, today there are reports that turkish artillery was shelling those syrian kurds and shelling those syrian army positions. the americans are very close to where that shelling is happening. they won't target the americans, but an errant shell, a misplaced location, bad things can happen. >> form u.s. ambassador to
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syria, robert ford, thank you so mu much, sir, i appreciate it. >> my pleasure. >> obviously we wish those men and women the very best. coming up next, illegal border crossings drop 40% in the last month between mexico and the united states. the trump administration is taking credit. should they?
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president trump's tough talk could be having a serious effect on immigration. according to these latest statistics just released by the customs and border control officials, illegal crossings from mexico into the u.s. were
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down 40% last month. 40. that is actually a staggering reversal on a 17-year upward trend. joining me now from the woodrow wilson international center is chris wilson, deputy director at their mexico institute. so, chris, nice to have you on. you know, listen, it may be impossible to actually know whether or not the trump rhetoric is tied to the numbers going down, but is that the sense you're getting? >> yeah, thanks for having me on. i do think that it's tied to the rhetoric. but the question for me is whether or not this is a permanent change or a temporary one. we saw the numbers of apprehensions go up last fall and through the winter during a time of year where that's not usually happening. usually at that time of year the numbers are going down, so i think that was also related to the elections. there were people that were crossing the border, trying to get across into the united states, before donald trump took office, before new border security measures were put in place. to a certain extent it's natural
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there would be a decline afterwards, that demand for migration was moved up and so now there could be a lull. the real question is two months from now, do we move back to the regular amount or are we in a permanently different situation because of the change in rhetoric and really more importantly the change in policy, because that's the only thing that could have a lasting effect on decision making. >> that's a great point. we also heard from dhs saying that there is a corresponding increase in the amount of smugglers who are being used and they're able to increase their prices to take people to the bord border. do you attribute that to maybe the increased security right now? >> again, just as you said at the outset, we only have sort of one month of new data, of new stories of what's going on, so we should all be cautious with our interpretations. but we've seen a several year process of smuggling prices going up so we're definitely at a period in which increased border security, you know, may
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have -- any time it's harder for migrants to cross the border, they rely more on smugglers to make their way across and smugglers, therefore, can charge greater prices. the greater question is are smugglers at the root of this as well. they advertise their services to potential migrants so they could use the presidency of donald trump as a selling point ahead of his inauguration saying to potential migrants you need to make a move now. if you're going to make a move in the next six months, now is the time to do it. so they play an important role in communicating real information but also communicating false information, and so we'll have to watch how that plays out as well. >> maybe it's the smugglers optimizing their, quote, business practices, right, ahead of knowing how the president would come down on illegal immigration. we'll find out as you point out. too early to know. chris wilson from the woodrow wilson center, thank you very, very much. >> thank you. coming up next here, as president trump makes a hard
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sell for the republican health care plan, we'll take you live to knoxville, tennessee, where a major insurer is about to pull out of the obamacare exchange. a look at whether this new bill would help people there at the risk of losing their coverage altogether. but first, check out this one-of-a-kind experience cnn's chris moody found in salt lake city if you are ever passing through. >> salt lake city, utah, the world headquarters of the mormon church and a thriving business city that serves as a gateway to few hours after your meetings, just a 35 minute drive will take you to one of the greatest thrills of your life. the utah olympic park was built for the winter olympics in 2002 and it's still used today as a training center for athletes. what makes it truly special,
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you talk to some of the funny est people they tell you the best material comes from their everyday home life. this father-son comedy power house carl and rob reiner lived that philosophy. i actually got to go to carl reiner's home in l.a., sit down with him and between them you have legendary shows like dick van dyke, harry met sally, i could go on. i learned that laughter and politics really just in their
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dna. did you grow up laughing in this house? >> the funny est people in the world came into this house. people have asked me a million times what it was like growing up in a household where there was mel brooks and there's -- norman lear, just the funny est people in the world. i said, well, you don't know as a kid, you're growing up, you don't know that's your reality. >> i was trying to think of when he was very, very young, four, five and six years old, when mel and i would be kidding around in the living room he would sit on the steps and listen and laugh. we didn't understand how this kid knew what he was thinking about. matter of fact, when he was 12 years old or 13 or 15 he threw in a joke we still use. >> i was staying up late last night rewatching scenes from when harry met sally which i've seen 18 times at least. >> really? >> oh, yeah. the scene when she's faking the
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org asm, i'll have what you're having, your wife, do you think that would be seen as tame now? >> you know, yes, probably. if you look at cable television and all the shows that are on. >> of course. >> the people are doing more than faking orgasms. they're having actual, whatever they do. i don't know what it is because -- >> taking this off, doing this and that. >> and they use the f word freely. bill ma her can't use two words without saying it. makes it okay. >> now if you're a political satirist, your act is written for you. there's a lunatic in the white house. >> do you think anything should be off limits for when they're poking fun at the president? >> no. >> no. >> no. why? because nothing is off limits for him. i mean, the guy, he makes fun of handicapped people. he talks about what he's going to do to women. i mean, nothing is off limits for him so why should anything be off limits for the comedian?
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nothing should be off limits for comedians anyway. >> nobody has ever attacked a president the way this guy is being attacked because no president deserves it. they've said we don't like obama's obamacare, but they couldn't a dttack him for being person. he's not a person, he's a pig. >> are you up late on saturday night? >> melissa mccarthy knocked it out of the park. aside from the fact she was brilliantly funny and the makeup was incredible, she looked just like sean spicer. i loved the fact that trump was upset that sean was being played by a woman. so now we're trying to get rosie o'donnell to play steve bannon. i'd love to see a woman play trump, meryl streep or whatever. >> in the history of our country, we've never had the citizenry go after the president like in this vein because he deserves it. no other president -- i mean,
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there were antibushes, there were antinixons. not this way. >> i've never seen anything like it. >> huge thank you to the reiners. by the way, carl reiner turning 95 years young this month. do not miss our cnn series, the history of comedy, 10:00 p.m. eastern pacific only here on cnn. i'm brooke baldwin. thanks for being with me. "the lead" with jake tapper starts now. >> thanks, brooke. so, why wouldn't president trump want it to be called trump care? i mean, it's not as if he's averse to putting his name on things. "the lead" starts right now. an all nighter, speaker paul ryan and the gop pushing ahead with their health care plan to replace obamacare as groups representing hospitals and doctors and seniors push back and are joipd this afternoon by the top doctor in the trump administration medicaid program. breaking right now, brand-new details coming out about the yemen raid. president trump's first military action as commander now taking