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>> 30 years, terry's son also over come with emotion. >> if i can be even half the man he's been to me as a dad when i one day have kids, i think i'll be doing a good job. >> never quit. that's the lesson we teach our kids. >> technology, the idea that wouldn't have been able to happen 30 years ago, but now it's happening. that's a win for everybody. thanks for joining us, time for cnn "newsroom" with poppy harlow and john berman. >> thanks so much. a lot of news this morning. let's get right to it. good morning. i'm poppy harlow. >> i'm john berman. the breaking news this morning, in the london terror attack, isis is climbing responsibility. also new, the man responsible for plowing his car into clouds of people and stabbing a police officer to death, he was british born and apparently already on the radar of law enforcement. >> prime minister theresa may
revealing the british-born attacker had been investigated before for ties to violent extremism. nic robertson has more on his ties to isis. >> reporter: the news agency associated with isis says they claim him as one of their soldiers. they did exactly the same with the attacker in nice last year, the two attacks very similar. what isis on this news organization is saying is that this has been done in response to their calls for attacks on the coalition. so this is very much in keeping with what we've seen isis do before, claiming him as one of their soldiers. what we learned from the authorities here, british born, prime minister theresa may saying british intelligence services, mi5 investigated him being periphery to another
incident several years ago. they decided he wasn't relevant going forward, not under recent or current investigation, but what police say they're doing now is looking at his motivation, looking at his preparations and looking at his associates, the point of his associates overnight last night armed police raided the building behind me, used a battery ram to get lou the door. people people arrested there. eight people total from six different locations. it's just a mile away from here we've learned in the last half hour or so that the vehicles used in the attack was rented from a garage not far from here. the owners of that garage say they're working with the police to help them. >> we have more major news this
morning. i'm president and you're not. new words from a new interview from president trump that are indisputebly true, he is president and you are not. beyond that is where it gets murky. he also says i can't be doing so badly. but today, exactly how he is doing depends on two major developing stories. >> huge stories first u.s. officials telling cnn exclusively the fbi has indication that indicates associates of president trump communicated with suspected russian operatives possibly to coordinate the release of information damaging to hillary clinton's campaign. at the same time, a health care showdown on capitol hill. today is the day of the vote, republicans runs against the clock as they scramble to save their plan to repeal and replace obamacare, a vote on the house gop plan hours away. let's go to capitol hill where we find congressional correspondent sunlen serfaty. what does the latest cnn whip count tell us?
>> reporter: signs are not indicating that it is headed towards a good place. beyond the whip count, house leaders have postponed the meeting they were intending to have right now at this time to meet with their full conference, likely to brief them on changes of the bill. we know that will not happen at this time likely potentially later in the day. but the delay of that conference meeting indicating how much is still fluid, how much is still up in the air around this. yes, the intention is to push towards a vote at some point, but we don't even know what time that is. we don't know what's in the bill. the framework has not been agreed to. the rules committee hasn't passed this through. the cbo has not scored this thing yet. basically a lot has to happen in a very short amount of time up here on capitol hill if indeed they are going to vote today on this. we know the president is getting more personally involved.
he's been calling members on their cell phones as they're trying to make this deal and is out with a new twitter video this morning. >> americans were told obamacare would bring down prices and increase options. you were told you could keep your plan and keep your doctor. you were given many, many false stories. the fact is you were given many lies. go with our plan. it's going to be terrific. you're going to be very, very happy. call your local representative, call your senator, let him know you're behind our plan. >> reporter: leaders here worked well into the night trying to make changes to the bill, some changes centering around essential health benefits. those changes would appease the conservative house freedom caucus, but they're also alienating moderates, making them lose votes with moderates. charlie dent said he was a yes
before, now he's a no after these changes. john and poppy, a lot of moving parts, a lot to do before they can get a bill that can potentially be brought to the floor. >> those essential health benefits, mandating coverage for mental illness or maternity care, those are items that can bring this either way. let's bring in ron brownstein, senior editor at the atlantic david truck kerr and senior congressional correspondent for "the washington examiner." thank you for being here. you have mark meadows, the house freedom caucus coming out feeling more optimistic as of late last night. you have sunlen's reporting that you have this paul ryan, gop house conference delayed, no cbo score yet. we don't even know what is in this bill or out of this bill, and they're supposed to vote on it today. give us a reality check. >> we've seen this before.
under president obama it was understandable because they were always trying to do a deal to satisfy a democratic president. here is a big test for them. this is a lot bigger than health care, as big as health care is for many americans and as big a political issue it's been in the party since obamacare passed. a republican president and full republican control of congress. if they can't come together to pass health care reform, it's going to put in real serious question their ability to govern, put in serious question president trump's abilities as a dealmaker which is supposed to be, if nothing else, what he's supposed to be really good at. i've talked to people who believe they should have put health care off, go to tax reform, go to intravuk tour spending. it's not going to be easier. those are tricky subjects. the opponents that would have brought this down are going to
feel emboldened and republicans are going to continue to deal with this. i think the public is going to wonder what the heck is going on up here if the people in charge can't find a way to get a deal done. republican voters in particular actually want action. they want something done and they won't be happy if republicans can't figure it out. >> i think another way of saying that, david drucker, for paul ryan and donald trump this is their everything, at least today. ron brownstein, the parameters are more and more complicated, the idea that the deal will be struck on essential benefits. moderates like charlie dent who we heard from overnight, some of these new jersey representatives who you can tell will be upset. charlie dent says he believes it will lead to loss of coverage and make insurance unaffordable for too many americans. >> the one flaw in david's otherwise admirable analysis is this bill has the potential
worse all the things that republican voters, among others, dislike the most about obamacare. the history since republicans have taken over congress in 1995 has they have moments in the house but almost always pass the bill by moving it to the right. that's what eliminating these benefits would do in a dramatic way. one of the strongest arguments against the initial version is it imposed an age tax because it raised prices and diminished access for working age adults. this would compound that effect and would add a new challenge, because by eliminating maternity benefits as a required benefit, essentially the only people who buy that are the ones who need it which makes it either unaffordable and unavailable. you have the potential for critics to say this bill imposes a mom tax. there's a lot of challenges for republicans and holding moderates, not only in the house, but more pointedly, in
the senate. >> poppy harlow's ears perked up. >> i'm seeing the headlines. if that happens, is this doa? >> you have to have it by 8:00 tonight. the mom tax may appear, and in the next few hours they vote. >> rebecca, the white house said unequivocally yesterday there is no plan b, there is a plan a. there is always a plan b. so what happens if plan a doesn't work? >> well, i think poppy, the negotiations you're seeing, that is the plan b. they submitted their first offer, we could call it. the leadership submitted this bill originally and have been making tweaks and changes to try to apiece some of these conservative critics and get them on board. if they're not able to strike a deal before this vote this evening, i would argue there
isn't a plan b. you have republicans, more centrist republicans and even members of republican leadership are not going to go all the way to the right that the conservative republicans on the freedom caucus would want on this bill. this could just be a standoff, a staring contest between these factions of the republican party. if they can't strike a deal on this now on health care, on an issue they have been talking about for years and years on the campaign trail, i think it's quite possible actually this isn't happening and donald trump and paul ryan and mitch mcconnell have to ex-particulpl voters why it didn't. >> there was supposed to be a meeting with the house republican conference at 9:00. it's not happening. it's been postponed. we don't know why. it may be because they have the deal he wants to propose at a later date. it may be because things are in disarray. it's uncertain right now. >> david drucker, the koch brothers, famous republican donors, big money.
they've come out pretty strong against the bill as it stands right now. they're even saying they're setting up a fund that will not give money to anyone who votes for it. what's the impact of that? >> what we've seen is they'll go against republican leadership trying to put together deals to bring their members along and get signed into law as the most conservative bill possible under a democratic regime. they're not backing down under trump. what's interesting about this, john, when you have a negotiation on health care in particular with trump and paul ryan and the house freedom caucus, the most liberal guy in the room is donald trump. they're trying to do a deal that satisfies his promises to cover everybody with is antithetical to the conservative's drive to have this thing be as market driven as possible. this kind of outside pressure
puts pressure on that. can donald trump maximize what republican leaders don't have and have never had over the past ten years, or will we find out the president's relationship with those voters only goes so far? >> part of that will depend on whether or not he's willing to go to the mat and challenge the conservatives that are opposing him? he's indicated he's willing to do that. in my discussions with people who live in the districts, what they've seen is the president hasn't actually put that political capital to use to try to put these members on the defensive. if he does, they think it could work, he's got to be willing to give it a try. >> we've got to end this conversation. as we go, i want to take a vote. who among you thinks this will pass tonight? raise your hand if you think it passes tonight? >> i don't think so. >> eventually but not tonight. >> takes it to a bad place in
the senate. >> great to have you with us. interesting. could be a long night that lasts several days. wall street growing jittery about all the uncertainty we heard right there on capitol hill. the big question this morning, what does it mean beyond that? we're joined by cnn's chief business correspondent christine romans. >> it's all about the legislative agenda. while this is stalled here, there's concern about the president's political capital. that means tax reform, infrastructure, rolling back regulation, does that slow down? wall street would not like that. i like to say stillwaterers run deep on wall street, nothing is moving, but everything is happening. investors are trying to find out how much juice this president has. what they want, the holy grail, to cut their taxes, maybe foreign capital repatriation, be able to bring money home on a cheap tax rate. look at the stock market since the election, big run-up and
this week a little pause here, hitting the pause button, the dow is up 2,400 points since the election. a big run. the dow is a leading indicator. it has already priced in like the best possible scenario. >> it's already priced in the corporate tax cuts this president promised and can get done with a republican-led congress. however, he can't get it done without getting health care done. is this the market saying whoa, whoa, whoa. >> this is the reality part of the phase. all hope until now. this is the reality part of the phase. i don't want to say this is a sell-off or pullback, this is a pause. when you look at how far this market has come, it's been incredible. they need to see, can he get 3% economic growth? is the job market going to continue to run? >> taking a break and seeing other people. >> taking a break, that's right. >> cheating analogy this morning. it's like 9:15 a.m. >> still to come, cnn's
exclusive report on the fbi investigation on the links between the trump campaign, possible links between the trump campaign and russia. >> the house intel chair facing backlash from not just democrats, but republicans as well, as he literally ran over to the white house, talked to the president about this, quote, incidental collection. growing calls now for an independent investigation. also the president challenged on his credibility. his answer, i am the president, you are not. that's a quote. we'll be right back. ♪ ♪
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into potential leaks between individuals associated with the trump campaign and the russian government. >> want to bring in cnn crime and justice correspondent shimon who broke the story. bring us up to speed. >> u.s. officials tell cnn the fbi has indication that associates of donald trump communicated with suspected russian operatives to possibly coordinate the release of information damaging to hillary clinton's campaign. as you recall, fbi director james comey made his bombshell announcement monday before congress that the fbi is investigating the trump campaign. the fbi is now relouing that information which includes human intelligence, travel, business and phone records and accounts of in-person meetings. the information is raising the suspicions of counterintelligence investigators that the coordination may have taken place. though officials caution the information was not conclusive.
the fbi would not comment, nor would the white house. trump officials have denied there's any evidence of collusion. if you recall, in addition to comey saying the investigation includes looking at connections to trump associates. he also explained the legal standard for the fbi to look into this. take a listen. >> don't you need some action or some information besides just attending a meeting, having been paid to attend a conference, that a picture was taken or you travel to a country before you're open to investigation for counterintelligence by the nfbi? >> the standard is a credible allegation of wrongdoing or reasonable basis to believe that an american may be acting as an agent of a foreign power. >> one law enforcement official said information suggests, quote, people connected to the campaign were in contact and it
appeared they were given the thumbs up to release information when it was ready. other u.s. officials spoke to cnn and say it's too early to tell from the information gathered so far since at this point it's mostly circumstantial. the fbi can't yet prove the collusion took place, but the information suggesting collusion is now a large focus of the investigation. >> shimon, what do we know about who specifically is being investigated? >> poppy, our sources would not say who connected to the trump campaign was being investigated. but we do know the fbi has already been investigating four former trump campaign associates. as you know, michael flynn, paul manafort, roger stone and carter page, for their contacts with russians known to u.s. intelligence. all four have denied improper contacts. we learned one of the issues the fbi faces is communications between trump's associates and russians have stopped in recent months given the focus on russia. we've also been told some
russians have changed communication method making surveillance more difficult. >> shimon, thank you for that great reporting, along with evan perez and pamela brown. in the middle of all of this, devin nunes running to the white house apparently steaming mad about what he had seen, what he says is information about the president that may have been incidentally collected. now his actions are fueling calls for an independent investigation from both democrats and republicans. listen to nunes. >> it concerned me enough to have the notify the president because it was him and his transition team that were involved in this. it's not fair for him not to know what's in these reports while the past administration and many agencies do know. >> cnn's athena jones live in washington on what has become a political debate on top of this investigation. >> hi, john, that's right. this has raised a lot of
eyebrows, a lot kof sundconcern. we now the house intelligence committee is meeting at this moment. we know that the actions of chairman nunes raised the eyre of the top democrat on that committee who is now saying the fact chairman nunes felt the need to run over and personally brief the president about this information before alerting the house democrat on the same committee, house intelligence committee, raises concerns about whether that committee can conduct an independent investigation as they're tasked with doing. this is one of the committees looking into russian meddling in the 2016 election anthony contacts between trump associates or surrogates and russian officials. listen to what that top democrat, adam schiff, had to say about all this. >> the chair ma will need to decide whether he's the chairman of an independent investigation
into conduct which includes allegations of potential coordination between the trump campaign and the russians, or he's going to act as a surrogate of the white house because he cannot do both. >> reporter: he cannot do both. adam schiff in that same press conference talked about how this makes an even stronger case that there may be a need for an independent commission to look into this. this is something democrats have been calling for, republicans have been balking at. what's so interesting is it appears chairman nunes felt he was giving the white house information that could partially help out the president. the president said he felt somewhat vindicated because this showed maybe some of his accusations had been correct. let's remind all of our viewers that the president accused his predecessor, president obama, of wiretapping trump tower. even chairman nunes said there's no evidence of that. in the end this attempt to help out the white house really caused more confusion and anger
among democrats. >> of course, the president says it happened in october, chairman nunes says it was during the transition. a lot more to look into. athena jones, thank you very much. in a few minus we'll talk to a member of the house intelligence committee, whether she thinks the committee has the power to look into this. >> still to come for us, isis claiming responsibility for the terror attack in the heart of london. now the british prime minister says this attacker, no stranger to authorities. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪
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19-year-old? >> reporter: the question we don't have answered is the e moive. why is it he made and set um a series of robo calls to more than 100 jewish community centers not only in the u.s. but australia and new zealand. police saying the threats led to the cancellation of a flight, an emergency landing of a flight. police say they arrested the 19-year-old suspect whom may have not yesterday identified this morning. police went into his house and gathered evidence to show this 19-year-old teenager who used his home computers to set up the robo calls to make the bomb threats, make those threaten calls. the suspect is due later this afternoon in court and that may start what could be a long process of trying to figure out the critical question, and that is the why, why did this happen? why is it this american-israeli jewish teenager called in the bomb threats. it was a joint investigation of
the israeli police working with the fbi. there were some hints that it might be somebody overseas. it was the head of police intelligence who said it looks like this is one person working overseas that made these calls. now police say they have identified that person making most of these calls. the man behind these robo calls again, the suspect, a 19-year-old american-israeli jewish teenager who faces the court later this afternoon. >> that motive will be fascinating if it ever comes out. oren liebermann, thank you very much. isis is claiming responsibility for the terror attack in london that killed three people and left dozens injured. >> we know the attacker himself had been investigated before by authorities for potential ties for extremism. paul kicruickshank is with us. the language used in this tweet claiming responsibility, they're calling him a soldier of the islamic state. that doesn't necessarily mean he
had direct contact with isis. >> exactly right. they used the exact same formulation for the orlando attacks, the san bernardino attacks, the nice attacks. no contact whatsoever between the attackers in those cases and isis. this may merely be inspired by isis, may not necessarily be any contact. what we've seen in europe over the last couple years, 38 plots related to isis. out of those 38 plots since 2014, only six have merely been inspired. all the other ones have been directed in person by isis in syria or iraq or directed by isis operatives there over the internet, virtual instruction. isis is driving this wave of terrorism in europe. i would not be surprised at all if there was some kind of contact between this attacker and isis. we saw that in the berlin truck
attack a few months ago, aneesh amory, the tunisian extremist who carried that out was in contact over these encrypted apps with isis in libya, managed to upload a video to the group which they put out after he was killed. will we see something else like this? >> british born, born in great britain. >> and the mi5 are currently aware of 3,000 individuals, mostly british-born individuals who have the potential for violent extremism, potential for violence in the uk. that's a large number in indeed. it means they can't carry on monitoring everybody that comes across their radar screen at a certain point. they've got to prioritize, look at the ones they think are truly dangerous. it's a judgment call. obviously at a certain point they judged that this person was not a priority. he was on the periphery of some
intelligence concerns back a few years ago. the british had no idea at all that he had any intent to do this. so they'll be looking back at all that. >> paul cruickshank, thanks so much. coming up, i'm president and you're not. >> you're not president. >> president trump is right, he's president, i'm not. you're not. no one else is. this really remarkable interview that came out just this morning where he says that and also some other wild claims including that maybe more than 3 million undocumented people voted in the last election. stick around. older people when they actually did start saving. this gap between when we should start saving and when we actually do is one of the reasons why too many of us aren't prepared for retirement. just start as early as you can.
this morning, remarkable new statements with varying degrees of evidence in a new interview with president trump released by "time" magazine. >> in this interview the president justifies some of the most controversial statements he's ever made, statements not made up by any fact. he doesn't provide anymore fact, but he does say that his presidency isn't going that badly because, after all, quote, i'm president and you're not. cnn host of "reliable sources," brian stelter is here with more details. perhaps the most blunt line of the entire article, he ended by telling the reporter, things aren't going that badly because i'm president, you're not. >> fact check, that's true. other falsehoods talking about sweden and voter fraud and other issues. it is a remarkable interview for president trump saying the people believe me. the media is saying i'm wrong on these issues but the people believe me. at every point the president
turns to cherry-picking news stories he says prove his points. we've seen him do that with "the new york times" on the topic of wiretapping. the times reporters saying our story doesn't say what you think it says. shrek defensively using the news outlets to support his position. >> devin nunes said trump team associates were picked up in incidental contact. the reporter michael scherer didn't know it at the time. the president said when i said wiretapping, wiretapping is different than wiretapping. we know that not to be true. the president said he was wiretapped by president obama, not true at all. he hung the interview on his comments with devin nunes. >> it seems like this interview was designed to support the president's accuracy rate, his credibility at a time when we've seen a lot of stories on this network and all over the place about the president's credibili credibility, suggesting credibility is in tattors.
>> trump called that editorial a disgrace. >> time after time the president likes to kick that can down the road. here is one about voter fraud, for example, in the interview, the quote in "time" magazine is i think i will be proven right ability that, too. this is on the claim that millions of people voted illegally in the election. the president says i have people tell me it was more than the 5 million i claimed. he's pushing it down the road saying there's going to be an investigation and eventually i will be right. >> he says you're wrong, the media is wrong. the people trust me. i know he doesn't like polls. all the tracking polls show a continual decline. the latest number was a 37% approval rating. >> that's the broader point. the cover of the magazine this week "is truth dead?"
among trump's base this is very effective, this messaging strategy, saying things that in some cases aren't true, but feel right and feel good. as we cover various falsehoods and distortions in interviews like this, we've got to recognize the effectiveness. >> he pressed the president on many things including the claims that donald trump repeated about ted cruz's father, trying to link ted cruz to lee harvey oswald. the president said that was in the newspaper, i didn't say that. i was referring to the northbound as if that absolves him. the president saying this now, it's so strange given the fact that the president had ted cruz over the eat. >> and says i'm a friend of cruz. by the way, that newspaper was the nation"national enquirer." i see that on the supermarket newsstand and sometimes laugh. i don't think many of our viewers watching take that seriously. the president citing that
article in order to defend himself once again. one other quote, if i can share from the magazine, i thought this was striking, also, talking about the president's instincts, is that i tend to be right. i'm an instinctual person. i happen to be a person who knows how life works, he knows in his gut he's right. >> he has political skills. that's true. he's proven, whether he's right on these issues -- sometimes the evidence doesn't bear that out. >> not a right or wrong on some of these issues. there's just the facts. thank you, brian. up next, we'll take you live to capitol hill, house intel committee meeting right now. we'll go there after this break. what's happening right now? we're facing 20 billion security events every day. ddos campaigns, ransomware, malware attacks... actually, we just handled all the priority threats. you did that? we did that. really. we analyzed millions of articles and reports. we can identify threats 50% faster. you can do that? we can do that.
happening now, what has to be a pretty awkward meeting on capitol hill. the house intelligence committee behind closed doors a day after its chair claimed that member of the trump transition team were picked up on incidental communications, ran to tell the president of that fact, which caused the lead democrat on the committee to essentially say the chairman, maybe he shouldn't be running the committee at all. manu raju outside this meeting right now on capitol hill. manu, what's going on? >> reporter: yeah, they've actually been meeting for roughly 50 minutes at this point, john and poppy. this is the first time democrats on this full committee will be able to meet with devin nunes, talk to him about what exactly he revealed publicly, that the president's own team's communications were incidentally picked up, legally, during the transition period last year. of course as we saw last night,
this prompted an uproar among the committee democrats who revealed that nunes should not have revealed this publicly, should not have briefed the president of the united states, and believe it could have undermined this bipartisan inquiry that's happened into russia and alleged contacts between russian officials and trump officials. what i've been told about the data information that mr. nunes has looked at in these reports include communications about president trump, the forming of his new government from senior level transition officials. this information appeared to have been disseminated widely within the intelligence community, something that devin nunes himself was not happy about because he believes those officials should not have been, quote, unmasked. this one reason he believed he had to go public. the democrats believe it could undermine the investigation. >> manu raju on the hill, thank you very much for that. coming up, president trump's campaign manager paul manafort did admit he did indeed work for
and got paid by a russian billionaire in 2005. >> but he denied he helped push russian leader vladimir putin's agenda. what was paul manafort doing exactly? cnn's drew griffin took a look. >> reporter: the latest association between a trump campaign official and russia was dug up by the associated press. paul manafort, already working for russian billionaire oleg deripaska, was pitching a plan to greatly benefit the putin government. manafort affirmed he worked for deripaska but rejects that he was pushing the political interests of vladimir putin, including in politics, business dealings, and news coverage inside the united states. "i have always publicly acknowledged that i worked for mr. deripaska and his company to
advance its interests," manafort told cnn through a spokesman, adding, "i did not work for the russian government." once again, manafort writes, "smear and unu unionizeinnuend used to paint a false picture." manafort and his russian billionaire had a major falling out. court documents show deripaska funneled nearly $19 million into a manafort business venture registered in the cayman islands in 2007. they invested in a ukrainian telecon company. but the deal went south, and according to a legal filing, deripaska's company said manafort simply disappeared. white house spokesman sean spicer downplaying any connection this has to the president. >> he was a consultant. he had clients from around the world. there is no suggestion that he
did anything improper or -- but to suggest that the president knew who his clients were from a decade ago is a bit insane. he was hired to do a job. he did it. plain and simple. >> reporter: it's just the latest russian headline headache for the trump administration. cnn has reported the fbi is investigating possible connections between trump campaign officials including manafort and russian officials. manafort was fired by the trump campaign on august 19th. that was the same day the fbi announced manafort was involved in another investigation and another possible connection to russia. this time it was his consulting work for the pro-russian former president of ukraine, victor yanakovich, who had to flee his own country to seek refuge with vladimir putin. manafort's name appeared on a
ledger of $12.7 million in secret payments. manafort denies he ever took money illegally from anyone in his worldwide consulting business. he denies he pushed any russian agenda while working in ukraine and he now denies that connection with a russian billionaire had anything to do with a plan to enrich russian president vladimir putin. poppy and john, as of last month paul manafort told cnn he had yet to be contacted by the fbi. and while he's no longer granting any interviews, he did tell us through a statement that he looks forward to meeting with those who are conducting what he calls a serious investigation into all this so he can discuss the actual facts. poppy, john? >> all right, thank you very much, griffin, for the reporting, we appreciate it. back on health care, time is running out. can this president seal the deal with his own party before the house takes up the health care
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yeah, that's -- well, that's a long question. it's part of what we're getting to the bottom of here. i think you saw publicly the nsa director says he has a group of 20. and we'll continue to do research into it. >> reporter: is there something wrong with the way that happened? >> we don't know yet. we want to know all the unmaskings that occurred, going back to the letter that we sent
a couple of weeks ago that we'll hopefully get answer to tomorrow. >> reporter: did you show the committee members the data, the information, the intelligence report that you saw that you didn't show them that? >> we don't have it. so it's just a matter of time. hopefully we get some or part of what i've seen. >> reporter: did this come from the white house? did this information that you got come from the white house? >> as you know, we have to keep our sources and methods here very quiet. i've told the american public several times that we want people to come to us, to bring us information if they have it. over the course of this investigation, we've had many sources who have come to this committee. and as you can imagine, some, many, don't want you to know, they don't want anyone to know who they are. i think you guys in the press understand this, you have your own sources. >> reporter: but there's suspicion that this is engineered by the trump administration to muddy the waters and