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welcome to our viewers around the world and in the united states. we're coming to you live from beirut, lebanon and we have breaking news to bring you out of egypt. egyptian media are saying that there has been an explosion in a christian coptic church in the northern part of the country in tanta and state media reporting that the death toll there has risen to 15 people killed. dozens have been wounded. we still have details coming into us, very significant day of course today is palm sunday. and ben wedeman is at the turkish/syrian border, he was our cairo bureau chief and we were discussing, ben, a little earlier that this comes also weeks before as we show our viewers by the way, because this is video i'm seeing for the first time, aftermath of that explosion in tanta, egypt. chaos there among worshippers and we're seeing some people
hurt or killed there as well on the ground. there is an important visit by the pope as well planned in a few weeks. >> reporter: yes, this church in tanta was packed with worshippers when this bomb went off. i've seen reports that the bomb was in the front row of that church. now, as you mentioned, the death toll stands at 15. more than 40 people wounded. but it's believed that that death toll will increase as the day goes on. and yes, just the latest attack on the christians of egypt. in december, there was the church of st. peter and st. paul in could i ow cairo. in that case at least 25 people were killed. and in february, there were attacks on christians in the northern sinai. many of them fled the city as a
result. and yes, as you mentioned, pope francis is coming for his first visit to egypt at the end of april. he's coming to see a flock that has been seen his security situation deteriorate dramatically in recent years. now el sisi became president of egypt following the summer of 2013 when mohammad morsi was overthrown, many felt that he was their savior, that he would protect them and increase security. but we've seen a series of attacks on christians since then and many of egypt's coptic christians increasingly feel that the government simply has not done enough to protect them and today we saw the result of that. >> and we were mentioning of course the significance of
today, not just sunday, palm sunday as we would. the last attack in december on a chapel adjoining an important church, cathedral in cairo, also happening on a sunday. this is maximum terror, maximum impact against the christian community in egypt. and we were discussing as well, ben, there is a lot of frustration among them now, that they're not being protected adequately enough, that they know they are a target and yet the bomb attacks keep happening. >> reporter: and i think part of the problem is that the security provided to the christians, to their churches, to their community centers, simply is inadequate. you've seen it, i've seen it, that the security forces that are assigned to this job tend to be substandard. they're poorly paid, poorly trained conscripts who simply don't have the wherewithal to provide the necessary protection. egyptian intelligence at times can be very good, but clearly
this is not their focus. at the moment of course the egyptian security forces are dealing with this low level insurgency in the sinai peninsula and they are not doing a very good job by all accounts, that for instance recently there were pictures taken of members of the isis affiliate in sinai where they were running checkpoints in the city itself and so the egyptian regime clearly has not been very successful in dealing with that insurgency. and clearly not being very successful in dealing with this wave of attacks on christians. and it's not just christians. we understand on the first of april, there was an attack on a police station in tanta where 13 conscripts were injured. and we understand there has been a second explosion in tanta
today on a training center, police training center. so you have this low level insurgency focusing on christians, but also the government itself. >> well, certainly it's a message also directed at the government. and by the way while you were speaking, we were getting new images in from a state television network of the aftermath of that attack and there was some sort of live broadcast going on during the -- that went dark as the explosives went off killing so many people. and you're seeing there people gathered what looks like the exit or the entrance ever the chur of the church, at least one individual on the ground. not sure whether they lost their of will or they were injured. and as so often is the case, the death toll will like police rise as well sadly there as we continue to follow this breaking news story out of egypt. you were representing tanta is an industrial town and there
were attacks as well against the security and army infrastructure there. talk to us about that area in egypt. what is it like there, what kind of insurgent militant activity happens there on a regular basis? >> reporter: tanta is in the nile delta, a very populous city. i'm not quite sure what the population is. but, yes, you have -- i mean, recently there have been these attacks like i said on the first of april, the attack on the police station. we understand there has been another attack this morning on this police training center. but tanta is not the only place that has experienced this kind of attack. cairo has seen them, upper egypt has seen attacks, as well. and particularly the sinai. so really it's across the country. just happens that recently the
attacks have been in sinai. and it's not necessarily isis. you have to remember there are also other groups like the islamic group that waged an urban war against the egyptian government during the '80s and '90s. you have a variety of radical islamic groups that have a long history of violent action against the government in the did he will take upper egypt, cairo and elsewhere. so it's a massive problem that the egyptian government isn't dealing with very well. >> and stand by, ben. we have with us a london from the economic school. as we watch these pictures unfold, sadly they are familiar in a country like egypt, the latest attack was in december, but these insurgencies are also targeting the security of the military infrastructure of the military government of el sisi.
you know, christians understandably so are saying you're not protecting us, we keep getting killed by these militants that you are waging this low level war with. >> you're absolutely correct. these attacks are really strategic attacks against soft targets. they target the very foundation of el sisi oig. they expose the inability of the former general who toppled mohammad morsi, the first elected president in modern egyptian history. exposed its inability to secure the country. as you have secretaried, there have been sectarian tensionstic vulnerable. they don't feel that the government provides nufd security. and also as you have suggested, you have a potent low level
insurgency in the northern part of sinai. it has targeted not only the cops, it has targeted the security forces, civilians, foreign nationals, hundreds of people have been killed. and the strategic goal of this particular level of insurgency is to really wage economic warfare. what has happened in egypt and people don't talk about it, the tourism industry has been decimated. el sisi administration faces serious economic and social problems as a result of the instability and insurgency itself. so this is a strategic attack not only get against the cop, it's against the very foundation of the el sisi administration. >> and as we continue to watch this video, we're playing it in a loop, this is some of the -- these are some of the images coming to us from tanta. this is the aftermath, it is chaotic, people just stunned and
once again feeling extremely vulnerable as one of their churches or cathedrals or chapels targeted by these militants. i want to ask you overall about el sisi. because it's not just the attacks on the christian minority in egypt, not enju evet the attacks on the military, but an economy that is failing and with the military, this is a country with an exploding population of more than 90 million people that is having more and more problems keeping explosives, sort of discontent at bay here. >> yes, i fear that president trump el sisi faces fundamental challenges. poverty in egypt is about 42%, that is out of the 92 million people, you have 42% live either on $2 a day or some on less than $2 a day.
and employment among the semi educated youth is about 30%. and some would say 40%. the country is deeply polarized. you have thousands activists and religious activists who are in prison. you have a potent insurgency in northern sinai that is waging economic warfare. remember what has happened to the russian airplane that was basically destroyed in sinai, the russian tourism industry, tourists have not come back. the country is deeply polarized. the security forces got seem to be able to secure the country. the attacks against the coptic community even though it's a small community, but they exacerbate the social and political problems. and that's why what we need to understand, these attacks against the cops whether in december in cairo, 25 cops were killed and 49 injured, and now my take and i hope i'm wrong, i think you will see more than 15 people killed given the fact that hundreds of people basically on on this particular
palm sunday worshipping at tanta. and as you've suggested earlier, we have seen some tensions in tanta before between the coptic community and some radical elements, as well. so this comes in a highly polarized situation and aggravate the tensions and the challenges facing president el sisi. >> and ben wedeman in turkey, let's tell our viewers who may be just joining ugs ts the late there on this attack on a coptic church in tanta. what are authorities telling us about what happened and how many people were hurt as we on our t vice president screen see the latest death toll? >> reporter: the latest death toll is 15. more than 40 wounded. the bomb went off we're told in
the front row of the church which is 100 kilometers north of cairo. and of course because it is palm sunday, the church was absolutely jam-packed. and of course as is often the case in egypt, the initial death toll rises dramatically as the situation becomes clearer. what happened -- and i wanted to add something to what he was saying before. when you look -- egypt has a huge number of problems. but one of those problems is security service. which is a state unto itself. and the case of the church bombing in december, the young man who is believed did it, his story is symptomatic of the situation in egypt. he apparently was arrested for participating in a demonstration in his hometown which is to the west of the nile delta. he was taken to prison, brutally
tortured, and in prison of course he was radicalized by islamist elements. so when he went out, he was far more dangerous a person than when he went in. and this is often the case, that the brutality of the egyptian security services in a sense continues this cycle of radicalization and violence that perhaps has something to do with what we're seeing in tanta today. in a sense the egyptian state through its brutality is producing the very threat that is opposed to the state and of course to the christians of egypt. >> ben wedeman, thanks very much. cycle of radical staigs we've seen in other countries in the region as well. we appreciate your insights. we'll have a lot more on our breaking news coverage. 15 people confirmed killed on yet another attack on a christian church north of cairo.
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cairo. not the first time the coptic christian community has been targeted of course, it happened in december in cairo, 25 people were killed. the service of course was an important one, it is palm sunday. very important service for christians around the world on sunday. that means the church itself would have been packed with worshipp worshippers. there was a live broadcast streaming actually from inside the church and the moment the bomb went off, the signal was lost. and the carnage, this is the aftermath of that bomb attack, you see there are vehicles there stunned, angry and fearful crowds gathering outside of the church. tanta there the christian community there and across the country feeling extremely vulnerable on this day once again. speaking of people feeling vulnerable, civilians in syria in rebel-held areas, at least 16 were killed we understand in idlib. it is not known who dropped the
bomb but russian and syrian water pla warplanes are the only ones operating in this area. more than 80 were killed tuesday in the same place by deadly nerve agents. in this case, deaths happened as a result of conventional weapons. the secretary of state rex tillerson is traveling to moscow in a few days. on saturday he and the russian foreign minister spoke by phone. what did they talk about? paula newton joining us from moscow. do we know what was in that conversation between rex tillerson and sergey lavrov after moscow signaled that it was unhappy with the u.s. strike against the syrian air base? >> reporter: you know, interesting as always that the only readout we received was from the russian foreign ministry. they are saying that any investigation that the u.s. is undertaking right now is in their words inaccurate and inconclusive and for that
reason, and remember that the russians say it was the rebels who are responsible for this attack because there was a chemical making facility near by, that is their claim. so they continue to hold that same line. sergey lavrov also indicating that, look, if we're trying to fight isis together in syria, striking syrian regime only plays into the hands of the terrorists. that's what they gave us as the readout. playing behind the scenes however right now very soon tomorrow rex tillerson will meet with his g7 counterparts and they will start to begin to form what we're hearing is a political process, political process that this time is supposed to work where the others have not. what russia will then want to hear from him starting on wednesday, rex tillerson is whether or not regime change is the order of the day. of course russia continually standing by the assad regime and as you know, we've heard from the trump administration in the days prior to this that they thought assad would stay in power for the foreseeable future.
we have contradictory remarks from nikki haley and rex tillerson about whether or not that policy has changed. >> and since you mention it, let us -- nikki haley spoke to our jake tapper on state of the union. full interview airs later today. she was specifically asked about regime change, is that the new objective of the trump administration. here's how she answered. listen. >> is regime change in syria now the official policy of the united states? >> there are multiple priorities. it's getting assad out is not the only priority. so what we're trying to do is obviously defeat isis. secondly, we don't see a peaceful ending with assad in there. get the iranian influence out and move toward a political solution because at the end of the day, this is a complicated situation. there are no easy answers and a political solution will have to happen. but we know that it is not any
sort of option where a political solution will lap with assad at the head of the regime. if you look at the situation, it will be hard to see a government that is peaceful and stable with assad. >> of course it's hard to, but is it the position of the trump administration that he cannot be ruler of syria anymore, regime change is the policy? >> regime change is something that we think is going to happen because at all of the parties will see that assad is not the leader that needs to be taking operation for syria. >> so regime change is something that we believe is going to happen, doesn't necessarily mean this is the policy now of the trump administration. so there is some confusion there in that answer. it's a little unclear as far as regional reaction is as to what that exactly means. however, after that strike against the syrian air base, u.s. secretary of state rex tillerson was asked is there a change in u.s. policy with regards to syria. are you pursuing regime change. and this is how he re replied,
said the strike is not a change in our policy or our posture on syria. basically if you are to draw a conclusion from both nikki haley and rex tillerson, what is the reaction in moscow? do they believe the united states is now going down a different road when with it comes to syria in would they like to see basically assad gone? >> reporter: no, they don't. and to be frank, here in russia they are hoping that the united states and its allies does not start another chance to try to have regime change. they don't think it's what syria needs right now. what is interesting though is blunt reaction from constantine head of the russia's foreign affairs -- foreign relations council. he says nikki haley is calling a spade a spade. he calls it direct sabotage of the international community's efforts to start a process of political negotiations between the authorities and the opposition.
what is he getting at there? he's saying if you, u.s. coalition and its allies, come to the table with russia and say assad has to go before we get a political process going here, you're going to have trouble. that's why he used the word sabotage. again, very interesting meetings with g7 leaders next couple of days and we are still waiting for rex tillerson to arrive here on wednesday. one on thing to be noted despite all the contention, rex tillerson's visit is very much still on. >> all right. well, that is significant in itself. thanks very much, paula newton in moscow. we'll have a lot more from beirut, the latest of course on what has happened in egypt against that attack against that christian church and the latest as well on the reaction to that strike against syria by the united states. hannah is in london with other news. thanks very much. the united states is showing its military force in other areas. this in north korea in the hopes of stopping pyongyang's nuclear threats. an american carrier strike group
is currently headed toward the korean peninsula. a strike group is a formation of navy assets. it is not unusual for the u.s. to send an aircraft carrier to the region, but u.s. defense officials say this deployment is in direct response to the recent north korean provocations, all the missile tests that we've seen. let's go to north korea where will ripley is the only american tv correspondent in pyongyang right now. will, kim jong-un has been defiant for so long. it seems unlikely that he's going to halt his nuclear annual business. so what might he do? what might he do next in response? >> reporter: when we were meeting with officials earlier and the news came in that this carrier strike group, the carl vinson, was moving back toward the korean peninsula, their response was that this along with the missile strike that was ordered on syria really only emboldens their leader kim
jong-un to accelerate this country's nuclear weapons program because they feel that these weapons are the key to their survival as a nation. and when you walk around the street of pyongyang, you hear people say the same thing, they are told that through their state media for their whole lives really and this is the message that the government has been repeating for decades now. but they think the trump administration's behavior and rhetoric enforces their their i have it henarrative here. this is a statement from a government official responding to the question about the syria police still strike in particular saying, quote, previous u.s. administrations have been attacking those countries who haven't gotten nuclear weapons. and the trump administration is no different from the prefd u.s. governments in pinpointing those nonnuclear states. of course talking about syria being a nonnuclear state but also a reference to iraq and libya. thoek doesn north korea doesn't want to go the same way as those countries which is why analysts say they could be ready at any moment for their sixth thik clear tenuclead
by their leader. >> is there a sense of nerve u. nervousness on the streets at least that the regime itself particularly in light of these talks we have in the united states between the chinese leader and president trump just a couple days ago? >> reporter: it's interesting because today was actually pyongyang marathon day, so hundreds running in the streets, foreigners, friendly crowd, cheering, giving them high fives. no tension whatsoever when you saw these people. and when i asked if they were worried about escalating tension, they said no, they said they have faith in the leadership of kim jong-un. however, officials do at this point do sense that the tone of the united states has changed. there is a feeling here now that a preemptive military strike is far more likely than during the years of the obama administration. and so they feel that there is a
sense of urgency which is why you've seen so many missile tests and perhaps a nuclear test really at any moment here. >> will ripley live for us in pyongyang. thanks very much. do stay with us. we'll have plenty more on the reaction from the korean peninsula, also syria, ongoing conflict there and of course palm sunday, the attack on the egyptian church north of the cairo. courtyard, the official hotel of the nfl and i, want to remind you that no one's the same without the game. like @annethefan3, who writes, "my husband recently constructed "a regulation sized field goal post in the front yard. "to say it's an eyesore is an understatement. is he ok?" anne, no. he's not ok without football. mini camps open soon though. until then, help him adjust for the wind. oh and laces out, kind of a biggie. root cover up. unexpected situation? 3 seconds to flawless roots. 3 2 1 roots gone!
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north of cairo. 21 people killed, this is the latest toll coming to us from state media. you're seeing pictures and him images coming to us of the aftermath of what is believed to be a bomb attack, a bomb that went off inside the church. cnn's ben wedeman is at the turkish/syrian border. ben, what are authorities saying happened here, what group might be responsible? >> reporter: now we're hearing from egyptian state television that the death toll has risen to 21, more than 50 wounded in this attack on the st. georgeta whic kilometers north of cairo. of course it's palm sunday, so the church at the time was packed with worshippers. and we've seen there was a live feed on an arab television channel from the church during
the mass. and what you see is mass going on and all of a sudden you hear an explosion. the picture goes away. but you can still hear people shouting and screaming in the background. the spokesman for the egyptian foreign ministry has put out a statement saying that this was an obnoxious and failed attack, although i don't know about the failed part. it looked like it actually panned out as was planned by whoever was behind it. no claim of responsibility so far. the egyptian government for several years now has been struggling with a low level urban warfare by isis-affiliated groups as well as other radical groups in the nile delta as well as in the northern sinai. so we don't know who was behind it, but as i said, the death toll that the point at least 21 dead, more than 50 wounded. >> and a couple important
points. we have a papal visit scheduled in the next few weeks in egypt. i can't imagine the security headache that will be for the pope. we'll see if that still goes ahead. and the other thing is the coptic community, this is not the first time they're the target of an attack like this. it happened in december and many times before in previous years. they live been happier with abdel fattah el sisi as their president rather than a muz ysl brotherhood president, but they must be fearful because these attacks keep killing members of their community. let's start with the pope visit. what is the expectation there? >> reporter: going what to what you said ee earlier. happy they were when el sisi came to power in the summer of 2013, but since then, they have had a series of attention and disappointment has been grow, anger has been growing as they have seen more and more of their
co-religionists being killed in these attacks. in december there was an attack on the church of st. peter and st. paul, there 25 people were killed. in february you had a series of attacks on christians in a town in northern sinai, attacks by an isis-affiliate it's believed. many of them fled to the suez canal and ian lee reported on them and many of them were angry. they felt that they had been let down by the egyptian government, that they had put so much faith in. and that seems to be a complaint we are increasingly hearing from egyptian christians that simply this government has failed to protect them. >> and chair of contemporary middle east studies at the london school of economics, i
want to bring you into this conversation for the wider context. there is this low level insurgency, it is hell bent on targeting minorities who think or hope that they might get protection from the military government and also on targeting the security and military infrastructure. but it is successful in that sense because what it is doing now is sowing terror among the christian community, 10% or so of the population, because it is managing to successfully carry out these attacks. >> absolutely. multiple attention in the past three years in egypt, hundreds of security officers have been killed. scores of civilians. we need to tell our viewers that the coptic community is not the only community that is being targeted in egypt. civilians, foreigners, diplomats, economic targets. isis and other militants are
really waging economic warfare against the administration of abdel fattah el sisi who toppled morsi. the country is deeply polarized. there is a low level insurgency in northern sinai and it has spread to other parts of egypt, cairo, alexandria, tanta. and what we need also to stress, that even though the security services in egypt have not raeld proved really proved to be ver effective, it is extremely difficult to protect every religious place in egypt. think of how easy it is to place a bomb in a cairo cathedral or in tanta in a church can. think how easy it is to carry out a suicide bombing and the attacks against the copsan. think how easy it is to carry out a suicide bombing and the attacks against the copsn. think how easy it is to carry out a suicide bombing and the attacks against the cops. think how easy it is to carry out a suicide bombing and the attacks against the cops alexandria, cairo, tanta, they want to sow sectarian tensions
because as we have been talking about, the coptic community feels very angry, need to be protected and the government obviously is unable to do so. >> right. and this is just the aim of terrorism. it's inexpensive, it's easy and it dare guys people in t s tea people. ben wedeman is in turkey.tear t people. ben wedeman is in turkey. and we'll have a lot more on the breaking news story after a quick break and also the latest from the region as we continue to broadcast live from beirut. you're going to be hanging out in here. so if you need anything, text me. do you play? ♪ ♪ use the chase mobile app to send money in just a tap, to friends at more banks then ever before.
an update from egypt, there has been an attack on a christian church north of cairo, 21 people have been killed. you're seeing video of the aftermath there. dozens more have been wounded. we understand a bomb went off actually uninside the church in the first few rows according to state media. we will update you on the very late ers when st when we get it. hannah vaughan jones is in london. >> and with me is the international security director for the asia pacific foundation. thanks very much for coming in. coptic christians in egypt, be it's palm sunday today, start of the holy week, if nothing else this shows that the low level insurgency within egypt is very much strengthening. >> we've seen now this is the second attack on a coptic church in four months. the previous one in december was claimed by isis and we know that
there is an isis affiliate in the sinai that has been carrying out attacks against the security forces. but unfortunately also the coptic community are very vulnerable, not just attacks at churches, but kidnappings, targeted assassinations and the timing of the attack is not coincidental on palm sunday, very symbolic and it preempts the impending visit of the pope e itself. >> and what the is the government in egypt trying to do to protect the minority groups? >> president el sisi has been trying to wage an aggressive battle againsts insurgence elements that have grown one of the problems is that it's become home to a number of extremist elements that have used the arab spring as a way of growing. the mistake that the egyptian government has made is trying to outlaw the muslim brotherhood which haslated and
used. >> dourng t you think the unite states might be reassessing its price el sisi? >> i don't think it will change. el sisi is seen as an important ally to the west. if he falls, the worry is that islamists could take over. it was el sisi that launched the coup against the muslim brotherhood, presidency of mohammad morsi. it was seen as controversial in some quarters, but the west depends on el sisi. we will have to expect more attentions in egypt. sweechb bombin we've seen bombs of the metro jet plane in the sinai. this is unfortunately now what egypt is witnessing. >> thanks very much indeed. so more attacks that we should expect to come.
hala gorani is in beirut for us. >> and i'm joined by cnn military analyst colonel layton. let's talk about the wide ir r n context. you have the militant insurgency in the sinai, you have a radical sized in-sur fwesurgent effort destabilize the military government of abdel fattah el sisi by targeting members ever the christian community, among other strategies that they are using right now.ever the christian community, among other strategies that they are using right now. but they wiare doing it quote/unquote effectively. >> that's right. there are so many different aspects to this insurgency. it is multifaceted. on the one hand there are a lot of elements of isis that are active in the sinai peninsula, also active in egypt at large. so these forces combined with the forces that are sympathetic
or part of the muslim brotherhood are forces that are absolutely opposed to the el sisi government. the wegs sst sees the el sisi government as a force for stanlt. the problem is they're sitting on a pressure cooker and that pressure cooker is about to explode. it's very difficult for any government, any central government in cairo, to really control the entire population of some 90 million people in a way that allows for some views, some extremist views to be expressed but expressed in a nonviolent plar manner. and this is the kind of manifestation that you see, this attack another church in tanta. >> absolutely. and western countries who see abdel fattah el sisi as a force for stability, of course inside egypt the viewed is quite different depending on who you speak with, that they have gone back to state control over media, over freedom of expression, over police and
security forces, overreaching their authority. and here you have a situation where sometimes the way the government acts toward dissent is radicalizing the population and creating a situation where one is feeding the other. >> that's right. and the fact that in egypt you have a system where there is a state within the state, the intelligence services is very, very powerful. and it controls many facets of egyptian society and the egyptian economy. and that very fact also lends itself to the feeling among many in egypt that there is no economic opportunity for them. if they lack the connections, if they lack the ability to in essence influence the bureaucracy on their behalf, they then see themselves as victims and that then becomes really rife fodder for the extremism and kinds of attacks
that we see not only in the church in tanta, but also really throughout the country. >> we certainly see it and at the heart of it of course as always the suffering from civilians and in this particular case a coptic church in the northern part of the country. colonel, thanks very much. just to recap for our viewers, state media now reporting 21 people killed in this bomb attack. a bomb that went off inside the church on palm sunday just a few weeks before a papal visit to egypt. we'll have more on the breaking news coming up. energy is amazing. how we use it is only limited by our imagination. and at southern company we're building the future of energy, for you.
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welcome back. breaking news out of egypt, state media now reporting that the death toll following a church attack in tanta north of cairo has risen to 21, about 50 injured after a bomb went off inside the church. no group has claimed responsibility. we're still awaiting a statement from egypt's interior ministry, some of the images there of the aftermath. more later. a shocking new video shows the chaos during that deadly truck attack in sweden on
friday. take a look at this. you can see panicked shoppers fleeing for safety as the truck plowed through the retail area in stockholm. four people were killed and more than a dozen wounded in the attack. max foster joining me live from stockholm. max, when we look at that video, you can see the speed of the truck as it mowed down those innocent people on friday afternoon. nearly two days on now, and how are swooed swedes reflecting? >> reporter: this is the focal point. we're just around the corner from that street. the street has been reopened in its act of defiance and people aren't afraid of going back to the street. message from the king and prime minister, we can't be cowards in the face of terror and the message has resonated monamongs the people. there will be a vigil here a little later on. it's already filling up with people. and what they have done is brought all of the flowers from all the makeshift memorials and
brought them here and laid them on the steps. quite an incredible scene really and this fragrant smem ll of ros billowing up. and lots of messages playing in to that theme that i was describing. so there is a frame there and it says democracy is the most important thing that we have. and it really speaks to something much bigger that europe is facing, these isolated terror threats should they undermine democracy, the free society. this is a typically liberal european nation. and they are refusing to respond to that attack. the 39-year-old man still in custody however. other people having questioned but not arrested. so so far it suggests that he wasn't part of a wider network. >> swedes refusing to be cowards. max foster, thanks very much. that is it for me. i'm hannah vaughan jones in london. and a quick update on what
we know about the church attack. 21 people killed so far according to state media. about 50 injured. and we're seeing here some of the images coming to us from state run television of the aftermath of the attack. you can imagine the fear, the confusion, stunned worshippers outside that church in tanta, that industrial town feeling once again vulnerable, once again the targets of a militant insurgency is what they believe. though no group has claimed responsibility. we are still awaiting a statement from the independent tear interior ministry. we'll have a lot more after a quick break. thanks for joining us. ministry. we'll have a lot more after a quick break. thanks for joining us.
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