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nuclear bomb ever deployed by u.s. forces in combat. how many insurgents does the pentagon think it killed? plus, what they are calling cooking and dying. shocking images of the great barrier reeve with scientists warning that hundreds of miles of the natural wonder are boiling because of a phenomenon that president trump has called a chinese hoax. good afternoon, everyone. welcome could "the lead." i'm jake tapper. we'll begin with the world lead where the world's attention turns to skies over north korea, saturday morning, a national holiday, the date of the founder's birth to mark the location, the leader of the rogue regime, is promising to put on a show. will kim jong-un, the dictator of this reclusive and oppressive nation celebrate founder's day by testing yet another nuclear device, and if he does, how will president donald trump respond? as the president receives updates in florida on any signs of provocation, vice president
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pence is preparing to travel to seoul, south korea this weekend in part to assess military options against pyongyang. cnn correspondent al dra field is live in seoul. alexandra, today is the big day. what is latest on whatever kim jong-un might -- might have planned? >> well, jake, we fully expect that this day will begin with a military parade to mark the celebration, the most important date on the north korean calendar. it's typically a show of strength, a show of military might and prowess and the much more alarming possibility on this morning of the day of the sun is that kim jong-un could decide to mark this day with a far greater show of strength, a nuclear test which could be the country's sixth nuclear test. it's impossible to predict when exactly he could carry out such a test but analysts in the u.s. and officials in washington believe that this country is in fact ready to carry out that test. the wild card here is in trying to understand how exactly the u.s. would respond to that, and it seems at this point that this
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kind of provocation would certainly beg an international response. in an exclusive interview with the a.p., the north korean foreign ministry said that the trump administration's policies are more aggressive towards north korea. you've also heard from an army spokesperson in north korea saying any provocation from the united states would be met with a merciless response. the u.s. has already deployed the ""uss carl vinson,"" an aircraft carrier strike group, to the waters off the korean peninsula. that's a move that's supposed to be sent as a sign of deterrence to pyongyang. it has enraged officials there. they are now saying that the presence of strategic nuclear assets in the region is threatening global peace, threatening global security and bringing the region to the bring of a thermonuclear war. those words being carried by state news in media just as the u.s. vice president mike pence makes his way out here. he'll be stopping in seoul. he'll also be going on to tokyo
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where north korea and the mounting nuclear threat there will be the top topic of conversation. we understand they will be discussing all the options that washington is looking at when it comes to dealing with north korea, and, of course, jake, the military option, the one that pose the most concern here in south korea where the people here are depending on the u.s. for security and also fearing retaliation from north korea. >> alexandra field for us in seoul, south korea. thanks so much. over the past eight days the president and his military surprised the world with strikes in syria and then in afghanistan. is there a larger strategy question hind those attacks, and could they be seen together in any way as a warning to kim jong-un? cnn's athena jones is live for us at the white house. athena, what are officials there saying? >> hi, jake, this is interesting. the president was asked that very question about the bombing in afghanistan, and his answer was i don't know. i don't know if this sends a message to north korea. he went on to say that it doesn't matter if it sends a message to north korea or not, north korea is a problem that will be taken care of, but as
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with any complex foreign policy challenge, that's easier said than done. >> president trump is spending easter weekend with his family in florida where he was spotted today on links of one of his golf clubs. following the president to his mar-a-lago resort, rising tensions with north korea. asked if thursday's bombing of isis targets in afghanistan the second significant show of force by the u.s. in a week was meant to send a message to the rogue regime? the president would only say. >> i don't know if this sends a message. it doesn't make any difference if it does or not. north korea is a profnl the problem will be taken care of. >> reporter: it's a thorny foreign policy challenge than candidate trump foreshadowed last year. >> if you lock at north korea, this guy, this -- i mean, he's like a maniac, okay, an you've got to give him credit. this guy doesn't play games, and we can't play games with him because he really does have missiles and he really does this
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nukes. >> the president has been pushing china, north korea's biggest trading partner, to help curb the nation's nuclear ambitions and is trying to use a promised trade deal with the world's second largest economy as an inducement. >> president xi wants to do the right thing. we had a very good bonding. i think we had a very good chemistry together. i think he wants to help us with north korea, and i said the way you're going to make a good trade deal is to help us with north korea. otherwise we're just going to go it alone. >> secretary of state rex tillerson looked to put pyongyang on notice during a trip to asia last month. >> the policy of strategic patience has ended. >> but there are no easy solutions to the issue. negotiations with north korea in recent years broke down in part because kim jong-un sees his country's nuclear program as necessary for the security of his regime. this weekend the north is expected to celebrate the birthday of the country's founder with the military parade, and it could soon
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conduct its sixth nuclear test, experts say. while the president takes to twitter to blast the regime and prod china, tweeting thursday, i have great confidence that china will properly deal with north korea. if they are unable to do so, the u.s. with its allies will, usa. north korea is responding. the country's vice foreign minister telling the associated press that trump is always making provocations with his aggressive words. the back and forth comes as vice president pence will soon embark on an 11-day trip to the asia-pacific region, his first stop south korea. a senior administration official saying thursday that military options with regard to north korea would likely come up during pens's visit. so we're hearing some pretty ominous words from north korea. that vice foreign minister also told the a.p. the country was ready to go to war. meanwhile, china has consistently pushed for a peaceful solution to this issue and a report in the "washington post" suggests that china may be stepping up the pressure.
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china has been turning away north korea's coal ships from its ports since mid-february and the "post-"cites a publication that warns the north that unless it reigns in its nuclear ambitions china's oil sipments to the country could be, quote, severely limited. jake? >> things are escalating. athena jones, thanks so much. with north korea raising the stakes and claiming it's ready for another nuclear test, how will president trump respond? a member of the house foreign affairs committee, congressman adam kizinger will join me next. stay with me. , arc lithium battery technology, it delivers the cutting-torque of gas. the ego mower's durable construction makes mowing in difficult conditions easy. the self-propelled model makes it effortless. and it folds flat in seconds for easy storage. the ego power+ mower. exclusively at the home depot and ego authorized dealers.
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welcome back to "lead." more on our world lead and new threats from north korea including one saying that they might launch a preemptive strike against the united states as the ruthless dictator kim jong-un indicates his country is preparing for another nuclear test. joining me to discuss it all is republican congressman adam kizinger on the foreign affairs committee and served in both iraq and afghanistan. how should the u.s. respond, do you think, if north korea does conduct a nuclear test that would be number sixth weekend? >> in my view a nuclear test is not the impetus for an american response and a strike. what really is though would be
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if we see that ourselves our our allies are in an immediate threat or even close to threat. the thing we have to clean in mind, there was all this discussion about iran, the iran dole and what the end state of iran was going to be under the deal. north korea is now where we were scared iran would get to which is they have a nuclear weapon, and they are working on the delivery systems for this, whether it's hitting our allies or an intercontinental ballistic missile that can basically go in space and hit the united states, so, you know, the key in the administration, remember, president obama told president trump this is going to be your key issue, something you have to pay attention to. the key for the trump administration is to say when they hit a point of no return or you feel an imminent threat is present, then you probably will have to take military action, i don't think that's this weekend, but i think obviously there's some real concern here in general. >> and everybody talks about oh, we want china to do more, president trump is not the first one to say that. every u.s. president wants china to do more. china is in a situation where
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they don't want a u.s. ally stronghold right there on its bothered and they don't want north korea so destabilized that millions of north koreans create a refugee crisis in china. what can china actually do? >> so china can enforce sanctions? china can weaken the nuclear power of the regime in the north. it can weaken the regime's hold on its people. look, the regime falling and now having in essence no government in north korea and a starving population would be a huge logistical nightmare, something that south korea fears, too, and what you have now is instead a leader that's basically insane that's trying to push the nuclear button, that's trying to achieve nuclear weapons and while we need the posture to do what we can to strike if we had to do that to protect our allies china really has the key and right now up to this point they have determined that having north korea is more of a benefit to them than engaging with north korea and with sanctions. >> during the campaign you expressed concern about president trump's temperament
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many times. are you at all worried that some day he's going to get up and send a tweet about north korea that could make things much, much worse? >> i think if a tweet would lead to worse things in north korea, that would probably be on the dictator and not necessarily on the president. look, i've actually -- >> well, the dictator is the bad guy, don't get me wrong, but i'm just saying that things are fraught with tension and kim jong-un is not a rational actor. >> he's not rational. is that a concern, always. there's always a concern that something could happen no matter who says it or who does that can blow up a very, very tension-filled situation like we have in north korea. but what i've seen in the president lately, frankly, is listening to his advisers, a lot more restraint on foreign policy, and it's like he's accepting the mantle and understanding, look, his words and deeds have a huge impact, and i just got back from europe and i'll tell you our allies were thrilled on the strike in syria because they said america has taken its role back in the middle east, and we've stood and actually enforced the red line that said chemical weapons don't
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have a place here. >> you served in afghanistan. the trump administration, the pentagon dropped a huge bomb on a bunch of isis tunnels in nangarhar province. when asked if he authorized the strike and the president wouldn't say yes or no and we don't have a definitive answer. it seems that he's given the pentagon a lot of latitude to make decisions like this. >> yeah. >> does that concern you at snow squall. >> no, i think it's that's actually a good thing. on broad strokes, the president needs to make that decision, we'll start a war here, bomb here, generally we'll take military action. when it comes to execute the war, the president needs to leave this decision to commanders in the field that understand this. every time you add a layer of bureaucracy for decision-making, you lose intelligence because you may find where something is, but it has to go to the white house to approve, and he's made this i think much more active and much more responsive, and
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frank lit use of a moab, it's not just a psych long call, though i think it will have a psych lodge cal impact t.killed a number of isis fighters and collapsed their tunnels which they were used to go kill americans and afghan civilians. >> whatever the reason, and innocent people die in wars, it's a horrible, horrible thing that happens, but whatever the reason, the u.s. has now killed civilians in mosul. there was an air strike called in on allied fighters this week, and then obviously civilians were killed in yemen. might that be another result of letting the military commanders do what they want to do and maybe even having less regard for the former rules of engagement? >> i don't think so much. i think that's a result of, you know, maybe our allies on the ground there called an air strike incorrectly. that's mob. we can also misidentify targets. munitions can go off the rails and go where it's not supposed to, but you're seeing a much more aggressive war against isis right now. you're seeing it in areas leikemen you haven't seen it as
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publicly as you have in the past. when you aggressively engage in war, there are going to be, unfortunately, sometimes civilian casualties and allied casualties, but this is how you actually defeat the enemy. the russians, remember, they like to use precision-guided munitions in syria to blow up hospitals and sill sufficientlyians, so i'll say our military and nato militaries are very unique in that we do everything we can to avoid civilian casualties. just not always possible. >> congressman, thanks so much for joining us. >> you bet. >> coming cup, the trump administration stays will not be releasing the white house visitor logs. why officials say you should not know who is coming and going into the oval office. stay with us. ng ] have fun with your replaced windows. run away! [ grunts ] leave him! leave him! [ music continues ] brick and mortar, what?! [ music continues ] [ tires screech ] [ laughs ] [ doorbell rings ] when you bundle home and auto insurance with progressive, you get more than a big discount. that's what you get for bundling home and auto!
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welcome back to "the lead." i'm jake tapper. the politics lead. the u.s. military defending its decision to drop the country's most powerful bomb since nagasaki screening it as a tactical movement the pentagon released a video of the largest non-nuclear bomb it's ever deployed, a blast it a could be seen reportedly from 20 miles away. cnn's sunlan spgs serfati joins me now. there were no second thoughts.
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>> reporter: they are trying to push this message on they are plan to drop such a powerful bomb. new moments showing the massive impact from the 11-ton bomb. >> it was really powerful. it was used to destroy all their tunnels and cave >> reporter: strike in a remote mountain valley along the afghan-pakistan border took out three underground fortified tunnels that isis or daesh had been using to stage attacks storing ammunition and weapons along the way according to of a fan officials. >> translator: there were isis bases over there. they had activities there. last night's bomb was really huge. when it was dropped, it was shaking everywhere >> reporter: 36 isis fighters were killed, afghan officials were killed but no civilians were killed. >> let me be clear. we'll not relent in our mission to fight alongside our afghan comrades to destroy isis in 2017
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>> reporter:s military defending the decision to deploy the most powerful non-nuclear weapon in the u.s. arsenal dubbed the mother of all bombs. >> this was the right weapon against the right target. >> reporter: a u.s. air force spokesperson tells cnn each bomb cost about $170,000 because it's built inhouse and created from parts of existing systems. >> it's constrained. there's no civilian collateral damage. it will collapse tunnels and explode the ieds. >> reporter: and there's also some payoff in flaunting such a huge weapon which a military official tells cnn can destroy nine city blocks. it could also rattle isis on the ground. >> it will have a huge psychological effect on this area that has a lot of transitioning between pakistan and afghanistan isis fighters. >> we're very proud of them, and
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this was another very, very successful mission. >> reporter: white house is attempting to frame this mission as one in a series of recent military successes. >> another successful event. >> reporter: but there have been challenges in the larger fight against isis. just this week the u.s.-led coalition in syria killed 18 of its own allies from the syrian democratic forces. and there's been more scrutiny beyond just that misdirected strike. in the past month there have been two other u.s.-led air, which killed civilians or allies. one in mouseual and the other one in raqqa. >> thank you. so much the trump administration stays will not be releasing white house visitors log. could a court force them to. that's next. may weigh on your mind. thinking about what to avoid, where to go, and how to work around your uc. that's how i thought it had to be.
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welcome back to "the lead." i'm jake tapper. let's stick to the world leader. russia is standing in solidarity with syria and iran demanding that the united states take no further action against the assad regime because it is will have, quote, grave consequences for global security. let's get right to cnn's matthew chance in moscow for us. matthew, at the meeting today, the russians, syrian and iranian foreign ministers demanded an independent international investigation of the chemical weapons attack, but correct me if i'm wrong didn't russia vote against that exact thing at the united nations? >> they did. you're absolutely right. it's a massive contradiction, but what the russians say is they didn't just vote against an investigation into the chemical weapons attack. they voted or vetoed a resolution which they say was biased, was one-sided and had already pointed the finger of blame at their ally, the syrian government, and that's crucial for the governments, because they have put forward a version
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of events which contradicts the version that the united states and others have been putting out there. they are saying this was a syrian air strike on a rebel chemical munitions factory and it was the release of the rebel-controlled chemicals that caused the enormous loss of life. that's the fundamental basis of that. they want to see an investigation they say in order to get to the truth, in order to have the international body like the opcw, the organization concerned with the prohibition of chemical weapons to come in and find out what really happened. for the rest of the world it looks like another russian tactic to delay and to confuse in order to protect their syrian ally. jake in. >> and russia's foreign minister sergey lavrov said any effort to remove assad from power will not succeed. explain to us as quickly as you can, though i'm sure volumes can be written about this. why do the russians like assad? >> well, first of all, i'm not
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sure they like him personally. i mean, whenever you see putin and assad together it's always a bit of an uncomfortable atmosphere between them, but, you know, they seem as a guarantor of russian interests. russia has political, military and economic there is syria, and if there was anybody else in that position, someone who was more palatable to the united states or to the west then he could easily turn away from the kremlin and move more towards the western powers. you know, moscow is the ally of last resort, and from that perspective they have assad exactly where he wants him. he doesn't have anywhere else to go. has to be russia's ally. >> matthew chance for us in moscow. lots to talk about with the panel today. let's just dive right in. perry, let me start with you. eight days ago the trump administration seemed to have a completely different posture about russia, about syria, about nato. now he's in a place that a lot more people in europe and the republican party to be frank and the democratic party are happy
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about, but why the turn about? >> he seems to be saying that i've learned as i get in the job. the events have changed movement i've learned more -- we talk about china currency. i had a meeting with the chinese president and that changed my mind about it. on syria, he says, you know, what happened with the chemical weapons attack changed his mind. he seems to be a president who says i'm open to learning, i'm open to evolving. it didn't sound the that way in the campaign. very strong and very consistent, but it sounds now like he's governing he's learning issues that at times it's a little bit comical when he said who knew health care was complicated. everyone except donald trump, i think, but in some ways it shows he has ability to grow and learn information. >> he also seems to be listening to different people. you've seen steve bannon being moved to the sidelines and gary cohn and his son-in-law jared kushner moving tore a central part and more around the president, and these are individuals that have a little bit more of these mainstream views on things like -- i mean,
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china being a currency manipulator. you're not going to hear someone like gary cohn push for that, so it is interesting to see as his positions change who is moving in to favor as well inside the white house >> is that how you see it, matt? you have so many different competing centers of mother, but definitely the bannonites, the nationalists, gary cohn, jared and ivanka trump who the bannon team call the democrats. >> and that's accurate. >> do you think that this is because of the cohn/kushner wing riseing? >> i think jared and his wife, the president's daughter, have always been very close to the president, and i think they are probably his top advisers. i don't think there's anything new there. i think you get mugged by reality when you're in the government. you're on a campaign and say things and reality hits and you listen to a lot of different types of people. i think there's a lot more nuance in these policies. i don't think the president has changed his position on china or kuns currency manipulation at all. what's changed is he's faced with a huge threat north korea and realizes china is the most
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instrumental person -- entity on the globe to help fix it, and he doesn't want to do anything to upset that by doing something on currency. does that mean he doesn't do something on currency later on down the road? i don't think it closes that door at all. all these questions, what we've added is complexity and nuance. i don't think they are 180-degree shifts. >> he did say he would declare china a currency manipulator. >> he did. >> and now he's saying china doesn't manipulate currency anymore. >> and in that statement he also said over the course of the last couple of years there's not evidence of their direct manipulation of their currency, fanned china were to all of a sudden do that, i think trump would respond, but in the meantime, he's -- he's bargaining with them. >> and he needs them for north korea. >> that's right. >> that's a good point. some of the other issues, and just this week, we should point out that this has been a pretty good week for president trump when it comes to he signed a couple laws. his supreme court justices was
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confirmed and getting very good feedback on the strike in syria and he has flip-flopped on a few issues, in addition to the china not being a currency manipulator and now supports the export-import bank and said he may even keep the fed chair janet yellen. he says nato is no longer obsolete. is this part of the same phenomenon, learning on the job? >> it seems to be. i also think it's part of this phenomenon, again, of listening to different people, but -- and you can't imagine his conservative bank is happy about ex-im bank. >> the conservatives are not for the exim bank, no question, but republicans in congress, there's already been a vote on this, and there's so much support for the ex-im bank. also a president that the president feels that this is not a hill to die on. >> a lot of people among the president's core supporters, the most vocal ones on social media, talk radio, et cetera, who are very disappointed.
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>> ann kirlt tweeted, i didn't vote for someone who started a war in the middle east. that came after syria. before he was taking on policies, there is an establishment and before his policies like the muslim ban, the health care bill, were kind of things republicans and democrats didn't agree with. he had no allies. 70 of 100 senators agreeld wid it. it may make it easier to govern because he's not taking steps so unusual and unorthodox. >> do you think steve bannon can survive? it's not just the back bight and the palace intrigue stories? you have president trump calling up "the new york post," and basically denigrating steve bannon. you know, steve is just a guy i work, and he's done this a few times now. he seems to be sending a clear message. we keep hearing from people who are white house reporters about how upset he was about all the publicity for bannon when he was on the cover of "time" a month or two ago.
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can he survive this? >> look, it's in one guy's head and that's the one thing about president trump. he's going to make these decisions. i know personally that he has deep respect for steve, and whether steve is inside the white house or outside the white house they are going to be friends and they are going to work together. my guess is he survives all this, but i think you're going to see a lot more changes in the white house staff. i just think it's how the president is going to roll. >> what changes do you think you're going see? >> going to make me predict on national television? >> sure. >> technically it's good friday. >> you just don't let me get away with anything. >> but let me just ask you. i said there was a great store in politico about like the math into whether or not you oust bannon because this is a guy who has a habit of when he's crossed trying to get revenge. >> well, exactly and that's something he has to weigh, but what trump might say is these aren't bannon's people. these are donald trump's people. they voted for him, not steve
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ban none. you saw that in that "the new york post" piece where he said he's a guy that works for me. i like steve, but he came into the campaign late. so i think if -- i had an adviser say to me you don't want to fly too close to the sun, and it seems like bannon may have gotten a little too close. whether it was his fault or not with the "time" magazine. >> this is true with all presidents. presidents have their favorite staffers and the next thing you do something and maybe you're a little out of favor. always smart in the white house to keep your head down and do your job and i do think it's true. there's been a lot of publicity-seeking amongst this theme. >> more is less, steve bannon, my son-in-law, my son-in-law is probably going to win, he's married to my daughter, now you're not. now you're being fired tomorrow. >> perry, jackie, matt, thanks so much and happy easter one and all. not guilty, former star patriots player acquitted of double murder but he won't be a
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free man any time soon. and christians around the world marking good friday. a look at pope francis' message to worshippers inside the ancient coliseum. be when you r? uhh, i was thinking around 70. alright, and before that? you mean after that? no, i'm talking before that. do you have things you want to do before you retire? oh yeah sure... ok, like what? but i thought we were supposed to be talking about investing for retirement? we're absolutely doing that. but there's no law you can't make the most of today. what do you want to do? i'd really like to run with the bulls. wow. yea. hope you're fast. i am. get a portfolio that works for you now and as your needs change. investment management services from td ameritrade.
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welcome back to "lead. "our national lead. moments ago former new england patriots football star aaron hernandez was found not guilty on two counts of first-degree murder. the case focused on the 2012 drive-by shooting outside a boston nightclub where two people were killed. hernandez is already serving a life sentence after being convicted in the 2013 killing of his friend odin lloyd.
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cnn's jean casarez joins me now. was this verdict a surprise to you? >> reporter: you know, a lot of people are going to be surprised, but you never know what the evidence is going to be once you get inside the court root now he was just found guilty of illegally possessing a weapon, so the jury could police a gun in his and, but they did not believe beyond a reasonable doubt that he fired shots that killed two victims and two people perished in all of this. it all started in june 2012 in a nightclub in boston. it was nfl player new england patriots aaron hernandez. he was in that club having a good time. out on the dance floor when somebody bumped him with drinks. he got wet with drinks. he got upset. now his good friend allegedly, prosecutors say, was with him, alexander bradley. prosecutors said when the two left that night that aaron hernandez told bradley who was driving the car pull up next to this car because these people are going to pay for getting me wet in this club. he rolled down the window,
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prosecutors said he fired five shots. two people did die. nothing happened legally. a few months later his good friend bradley was in florida, so was aaron hernandez, and bradley got two shots between the eye, allegedly from aaron hernandez but he survived, and so then when charges were brought against aaron hernandez, bradley became the eyewitness. now forensics were few and far between so it was the eyewitness that was gee and jose baze on defense absolutely decimated him by saying he was a liar, you couldn't believe him, that he was being paid by prosecutors and the fact that he got immunity for a plea deal and that he was a drug dealer, according to the defense, show in the end, jake, he was acquitted of these two counts of murder. however, he is already in prison for a life sentence in the killing of odin lloyd. but, you know, jake, it's always good for prosecutors to be able
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to have that pad in case something happens on appeal there's another conviction that he's in prison. they don't have that now. >> thanks so much. in our tech lead, microsoft has just announced that it received at least 1,000 demands for surveillance information from the obama administration in the first half of 2016. the company says that was double the number of requests it had gotten under the foreign intelligence surveillance act or fisa during the previous period and the most in five years. it's not clear who was being targeted. let's bring in cnn money investigative reporter jose pagliari. jose, there's an established established machine by the u.s. government to legally monitor americans' communications if the government makes this demand using a fisa court order. is microsoft able or other tech companies able to refuse to comply? >> well, jake, they tried to do that at times. for example, yo for example, yahoo tried to fight off these demands a decade ago and they lost and microsoft has succeeded a couple of times.
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what we're talking about here is demands from a secret court. fisa is a secret court with secret orders completely hidden from public view and law enforcement has lots of power here, but it's worth noting that there are very specific rules on spying inside the united states, rules that honestly few americans actually know or understand. >> jose, what kinds of communications are we talking about here? >> everything. fisa lets the secret court approve spying inside the u.s. with special limitations. if the government suspects you're a terrorist or a spy or talking to a spy, they can tap into those communications. the talking into a spy thing is what could be what justified feds collecting the private conversations of former trump campaign adviser carter page. now, if you fit that profile, the government can collect your phone calls, e-mails, texts, instant messages, file transfers, video chats is basically anything and in this case we're talking about
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microsoft that have been outlook e-mails or skype conversations, that sort ofning. >> and a lot of people use encrypted technology. does that protect them from this kind of surveillance. it does actually. encryption got a lot of attention last july when terrorists go dark. they can be tracked on twitter and facebook and then they use encryption and the phone no longer taps into those discussions. an e-mail that says hello turns into absolute gibberish. there are hundreds of characters that cannot be deciphered. encryption is what prevents the government from spying on different people and prevents hackers from breaking into bake accounts and prevents hackers from tapping into private information. it's a pretty powerful tool. >> appreciate it. coming, one the world's national guard wonders dying off. what is killing australia's
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welcome back to "the lead." we're back with the buried lead, stories we think are not getting enough attention. scientists say images from the great barrier reeve say climate change, at least partially manmade is destroying the planet. once colorful reefs off the coast of australia are bleached rise being caused by rising sea temperatures which they blame on climate change. this news comes at a time when president trump has proposed to cut billions of dollars to help study and xwalt the effects of climate change which in the past he's called a chinese hoax. it is, of course, not a chinese hoax. cnn's ivan watson talked to
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scientists trying to send a warning from down under. >> reporter: it's one of the seven natural wonders of the world. the great barrier rev off the coast of australia, a vibrant underwater ecosystem of coral and sea life that's roughly the size of italy, so huge you can actually see it from space. scientists are sounding the alarm. they say for the second year in a row this sprawling underwater treasure is bleaching on a massive scale. a new study by australia's arc center of excellence for coral rev studies shows approximately two-thirds of the rev is suffering. >> it's quite terrifying actually. the -- the magnitude and severity of the event. >> reporter: sean connolly is one of a team of scientists who have been surveying the damage. >> a coral is a partnership between an animal which is what builds the skeleton and constructs the reefs that you see and the tiny one-celled algae and hot temperatures cause
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that relationship to become toxic. >> reporter: his team released footage of barren expansions of coral bleached bone white and in some cases turning a drab lifeless brown. look at the before and after contrast of coral gone from healthy to bleached. dr. nancy knowlton, a coral reeve -- reef says it's suffering from heat stroke. >> what's happening is the baseline temperature is getting warmer and warmer and any increase in temperature caused by local weather conditions and adds on top of the global warming and kicks off this bleaching event so the global warming is cautioned by people, and it's providing the conditions that make bleaching happen. >> reporter: the great barrier reef is more than just home to thousands of species of fish, birds, coral, whales and dolphins. it's also a major tourist attraction that earns australia
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$3.7 billion a year. to add to the bad news, a big part of the reef that escaped bleaching was pound by tropical cyclone deb last month. scientists say the reef can recover from the bleaching but the recovery can take more than a decade and this is the second straight year that we're seeing bleaching on a mass scale on the great barrier receipt. experts say the coral is literally cooking and dying due to change in the ocean's temperature. jake? >> ivan watson, thanks so much. turn now to the brand new lead, the faith lead. today is not just friday but good friday, one of the hole yet days for christians worldwide mark the day that jesus was crucified with his resurrection celebrate, of course, on either sunday. moments ago pope francis wrapped up a ceremony outside the coliseum where he drew crowds of the faithful. cnn correspondent delia gallagher joins me now live from
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rome. every year the pope has a special message for the world. what did he have to say? >> well, jake, you know, the pope made some moving comments at the end of this communication in a prayer saying the world looks at jesus with their eyes lowered out of shame, out of shame, he said, shame for our silence in the face of injustice, from the face of bloodshed by innocent women and, for the innocent and those persecuted for his faith. he's obviously making reference to the recent attacks in syria and egypt and to the many other events around the world and he said shame as well for priests and bishops of the catholic church who have caused scandal. so his message tonight, jake, certainly focused on the world events, and in particular yesterday he gave an interview to the latin newspaper saying
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the world must stop the men of war. now he'll be going egypt on two week's times because of the attacks and he's not justing identity but going there as well. >> pope francis commemorated josephus' last supper with the ritual of the washing of the feet. >> reporter: that's right, and for that, jake, he went to a prison about an hour outside of road. it's not just any but a prison for ex-mafia laws and he waushd the feet of preval persons, three were imand one and the pope's symbolic jess tower on
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the part of pope francis meant to draw attention to the flight of the followers. >> stun in on sunday for "state of the union" starting at 9:00 a.m. eastern with senator bernie sanders. thanks, everyone. and i turn you over now to brianna keilar in for wolf blither. >> happening now. swords drawn amid signs of a north korean missile test and the u.s. is flkting its own muscles with a carrier group deployed to the region. president trump calls north korea a problem that will be take care of. explosive force. the u.s. military releases images of mother of all bombs dumped on a isis complex. a top u.s. commander called it the right weapon against the right