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what they believe is good for the business. there is sort of a ka fitch las vegas here to public pressure. obviously they were aware of some of what was going on before ultimately deciding to fire him. >> we'll leave it on that note but certainly be more fallout. thanks very much for warning. i'm wolf blitzer in "the situation room." erin burnett "out front" starts right now. >> "out front" next, breaking news, the trump administration taking on iran tonight. a warning that iran could become the next north korea. is trump gearing up for the fight against the islamic republic? what about ivanka and jared? a former nfrl star aaron hernandez dead from apparent suicide. why would he kill himself days after being acquitted? good evening i'm erin burnett. breaking news, taking on iran, the trump administration provoking yet another adversary.
the secretary of state rex tillerson saying iran could be the next north korea. tillerson saying that the united states is at this moment deciding how to deal with tehran. >> iran's provocative actions threaten the united states, the region and the world. as i indicated at the beginning, the trump administration is currently conducting a comprehensive review of our iran policy. once we have finalized our conclusions we will meet the challenges iran poses with clarity and conviction. >> this is the trump administration is facing escalating tensions around the world. two nuclear capable russian bombers on p the coast line next to alaska. that's the second incident like that in 24 hours. syrian airplanes placed together at an air base in western syria in preparation for a u.s.
potential strike. north korea. what may be more disturbing is the reaction to north cranes wildly cheering as they watched a video released. i wants to begin with michelle kuczynski at the state department tonight. this is another layer in a terrifying map. the trump administration taking iran on directly. >> right. this was the fourth full statement by the secretary of state, lifting a long string of all the ways iran is a bad actor in the world. which no one would dispute. but he's relating them to the iran nuclear deal. even though those kind of activities were treated separately so that iran would join the nuclear deal in the first place. but for those reasons, those kinds of activities he's calling the deal a failure.
listen. >> the jcpla failings to achieve the objective of a nonnuclear iran. it only delays their goal of becoming a nuclear state. this deal represents the same failed approach of the past that brought us to the current imminent threat we face from north korea. >> at the same time this administration is certifying to congress that iran is living up to its end of the deem, they're also announcing a review of it, talking about the possibility of re-imposing sanctions that would end the deal and let iran do whatever it wanted. it raises the question, what is this? a part of a broader strategy or is it rhetoric, a way of saying to the base ok, iran is doing what it's supposed to be doing but we still really, really hates this deal. >> thanks very much. michelle. upping the ante on another country. barbara starr is outside the pentagon. barbara, bashar al assad scrambling jets to a major base that happens to be where russia
keeps most of its air force. that's a pretty significant move. >> reporter: ethnic, but you know, there might be a strategy for assad behind all that, erin. moving most of the aircraft to the space to be close to russian air defenses, that puts him under the russian military umbrella. you'll recall after the missile attack that the u.s. launched against this air base to launch the chemical attack against civilians he lost 20% of his aircraft. clearly he wants to preserve what he has, moving them within the shelter, if you will, the russian military, their aircraft, their air defenses. could he still launch a chemical attack while keeping those aircraft safe? absolutely. he's got helicopters, artillery that can be filled with toxic material and he could launch another clel attack anytime he decides to.
>> pretty incredible what that would do. that means president trump would have to have a barrage of cruise missiles and have them ready to go. >> the white house facing questions as to whether the u.s. used -- dana boosh is in tokyo. dana, you have been traveling in az with ya with the vice president mike pence. you asked him if the u.s. sabotaged north korea's missile test. what did he say. >> reporter: i'll play that for you. we spoke on the uss ronald reagan. tried to get an answer. i'll let you hear. did the missile test that the north koreans launched fail because the u.s. used any electronic or cyber technology to sabotage it? >> i really can't comment on the electronic or technical
capabilities of our military, but we certainly -- we certainly recognize that that was a failed missile test. failed almost immediately, just like another recent test. >> but the u.s. didn't have anything to do with it? >> well, i can't comment either way. >> reporter: now, erin, during the obama administration, while talks completely failed, the administration particularly focused on the pentagon, tried to contain north korea by doing just what i asked vice president pence about. and that is to try to stop or at least dismantle some of its attempts to further their missile launches, further their program both with regard to regular missiles and nuclear missiles, using cyber warfare. that was why i asked him about that. didn't comment on that, but the
other thing that i asked him about is based on all of his really tough bellicose rhetoric that we heard day after day both in south korea and here in japan, whether or not there is any chance that that could end up with diplomatic talks, bilateral negotiations between u.s. and north korea. he told me point blank, that is not on the taken, erin? >> thank you very much, dana. "out front," the former cia and nsa director general michael hyden. good to have you with us. >> thank you. >> you look at the world map and it's scary. the trump administration has dropped the biggest bomb since world war ii on afghanistan. today the second of state took on iran. when you put all this together it is pretty terrifying. here is rex stillerson. >> the evidence is clear. iran's actions threaten the
united states an unchecked iran has the potential following the same path as north korea. >> is it right to talk tough against so many different regimes at the same time? >> these are decisions, i think what happened in syria, that was imposed on him. i still joined consensus that that was the right response at that time and handled quite well, thank you. the mow at-bat in afghanistan, i don't think that's a white house decision. it is a product of the white house deciding, unlike the obama administration to push decisions out to the edge, to push subdivisions down to field commanders to go ahead and make these tactcally sound decisions about having to phone home every time they want to do that. the one part where i think we might be stirring the pot a little too vigorously has to do with the rhetoric and perhaps even the president's rhetoric when it comes to north korea. >> let me ask you about this.
we saw korea's new threat to the united states in the video. >> i've seen video like that before. >> they've done that during president obama's term. this is from the enjoy to korea which trump is responding directly to the threat. here he is. >> how concerned and worried should americans be about a thermo nuclear war with north korea? >> look, you always have to be concerned. you don't know exactly who you're dealing with. >> is the president right? >> yeah, that's not a bad statement. he didn't tweet it. it was in response to a direct question. what we're -- we're trying i'm going to use the woshtd destabilize but i mean that in the gentlist form of it. we're trying to make people there uncomfortable because well, frankly, our demand to keep people there comfortable has on a path where the north koreans are going to be able to
strike seattle here in four or five years with a nuclear weapon if things don't change. i understand why you don't want to make some people uncomfortable. i do think that the rhetoric, the vice president's visit and what he said, the vinson group if it ever gets there, the message is intended not for the north koreans, it's intended for china. we want them to up the pressure on the north. >> is the president increasing the risk for war with all this talk about the armada? >> here's how i look at it. within our current definition of acceptable risk, north korea is going on the be able to reach the pacific within a half a decade. that's reason to derecalculate that constitutes risk. so, yes. it moye not be unwise. otherwise, we're stuck where we've been and we know where
we're going if we don't change. >> which is significant to say. syria scrambling military aircraft to a major base in western syria. when you look at where they're putting the planes is exactly the same air base where russia keeps its air force in syria h. how big a deal is that? >> it's a very big deal. it takes a couple of options off the table for us -- that's too strong -- it may make some options tougher ochblgts you have syria under the umbrella of the russians and the russians aren't going to try to distinguish whether or not missiles are intended for syria or russia. that move has made it much more difficult for us to do what we did two weeks ago with relative impunity. >> so do you think it was a one and done situation?
>> it would be difficult for us to consider like action. again, this was not about changing the damascus regime. >> right. but if donald trump goes ahead and does something, right, that then involves russian casualties, does an all-out risk that is much, much big, that goes up. this has been a cold war for half a century. that has not happened. >> that's right. let me go to another scenario. a while back we talked about notifi noti no-fly zones. now, my response to that is, well, if you're not, you realize what you've just said. we will do nothing in the world that is in our self-interest if it would risk a confrontation with the russians. that's a losing hand.
that's not my advocating for going after syrian aircraft. >> so he seems to be ready to go to war with russia? >> going to war is a big concept, all right? there are circumstances in which the risk that might be entailed by taking that action, given the total circumstances in which we find ourselves, might justify that kind of danger. no one wants to go to war with the russians. let me double down on another concept. the russians really don't want to go to war with us. they are by far the weaker power. >> which is a significant point to make. sometimes people -- you j in the 24-hour period this week they've flown fighter jets off the coast of alaska. >> in 1950, early 60s, their bombers -- i get it. we threw f-22 raptors one of our most powerful aircraft out to intercept them. that's pathetic. that used to be cool in the 1960s and if that's what the
russians can now mount as a way to tickle us, wow. >> your view of it, pathetic. >> great opportunity for training our alaskan air forces. >> the point they've not gone ahead yet, they sent a test with their parade with a range of up to 2500 miles, enough to hit guam, that test failed along with about 95% in the past years. is the u.s. responsible for that? >> well, i don't have the data to answer that in the first place. there's one thing that makes that hard to calibrate. all right. if that were true -- that's a giant if, i have no operational knowledge about this. if that were true, what attempts to slow down at sar michelle or nuclear programs by making it look like it was their fault,
that it wasn't external forces that created it, that it was their own clumsiness and infixes. if you're on the outside looking in, the best covert action in the world would make it impossible for you to know who done it. >> appreciate your time as always. >> thank you. >> "out front" next why is one of the most powerful republicans in the house throwing in the towel? does it have anything to do with trump? plus bill o'reilly gone. tonight speaking about his stunning fall. and the family of aaron hernandez saying his death couldn't be suicide.
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was a democrat. the president tweeting, despite outside money, fake fedewa, big run off win in georgia. glad to be of help. problem is, republicans don't seem to want trump's help right now. >> shame on you! shame on you! >> reporter: facing a grilling at town halls across the country, some republicans are no longer holding back. >> when i think trump is right, i'll support him. when i don't, i won't. >> reporter: yay senator joni earnst who stood by the president as a candidate sd now publicly calling him out. >> i think we have a president who has a number of flaws. >> reporter: criticizing him for spending too much time at his florida resort. >> i do wish he would spend more time in washington, d.c. that's what we have the white house for. >> reporter: while another gop
senator, oklahoma's james lankford is calling on the president to release his tax returns, telling his constituents on tuesday, he promised he would. he should keep his promise. >> are you going to side with trump or are you going to keep your promise? >> reporter: mike kaufman is taking the president on. saying trump shouldn't let obama care implode. >> i don't think that's right. if it implodes, i think we need to fix it and fix it now. >> reporter: the concerns being expressed by members of his own party comes as the president faces low approval rating and sets up a predicament for some republicans who will be facing tough races across the country like karen hand el who emerged last night as the republican candidate in georgia. after keeping trump at arm's length during her campaign she didn't mention trump once during her speech last night even after
he weighed into the race at the 11th hour. >> to borrow a phrase "bring it on." >> reporter: face as more difficult balancing act against jon ossoff. to embrace the president or keep him at bay. are you certain he will be an asset for you in the district? >> again, it is all republicans, all hands on deck. so we are going to be yuntded. >> reporter: karen hand el did receive a congratulatory phone call from the president this morning. asked if she wants the president to campaign for her, she said she hopes so but nothing more than that. this is a race being watched closely by other republicans, really seen as a test of the president's popularity, carrying major implications going forward for them. how they could run their own races and how they embrace the president as well. erin? >> thank you very much. simone sanders is here and david
urban who served as stroirgeist for the trump campaign. david, you saw the congresswoman getting shouted down at town halls. some of them responding by distancing themselves from this president. >> the president's numbers are very, very strong amongst the base. the president's numbers are strong across many congressional alexander in many states. yesterday in the special election in georgia, you sa republicans emerge with 51% of the vote roughly and ossoff with about 49%, he didn't outperform secretary clinton -- >> it's a pluchb district. >> he did not perform president clinton's numbers. there was no story there. everybody got spun up. there were numerous republicans in. jon ossoff, lone democrat, lots of support nationally and didn't really improve -- just nudged
above what secretary clinton did in the race with all her support, so i don't think there's a great deal of concern amongst anybody at the white house or in the party right now. >> simone, you're chuckling. >> i'm chuckling. the fact of the matter is this is a district held by republicans for 37 years. everybody from newt gingrich to tom price to johnny isaacson have a sat in this seat. yesterday jon ossoff ran away with the turkey. he garnered some 48% of the vote. you have karen hand el with 19 o point 8% of the vote. >> the leading republican. >> the leading republican. it's going to be very, very tough for republicans across the board come this year and next year. >> let me bring you in here, chris. the press secretary sean spicer saying this is a clear loss for democrats. here's how he put it. >> they said we want to win
tuesday night with over 50%. they came up short of their goal. they put all of the money they had, all their firepower and they came up short. so it's a loss. >> what is it, chris? democrats came close to the threshold in a republican deekt but david points out it's the same margin as hillary clinton. is this a loss or or a win? >> sean is right that democrats thought in the week leading up to this that they might be able to get ossoff over 50%. so the fact they didn't, it's a defeat in that way. that said, i don't think we should write ossoff chances off. it is harder. the problem is that karen hand el is an ok candidate but not a trump republican, probably a better fit for this district. one of the reasons donald trump ran behind mitt romney by 22 points is because he's just not fits for suburban atlanta. it's more waldorf astoria than
walmart. karen hand el is a pretty decent fit there. can falcons gets republican voters to put on their party jersey and vote? if they can, they will likely win. >> one other thing here before we go. this is interesting. david, i want to give you a chance to respond. on the new york times website today, a picture comparing the patriots turnout for president obama in 2015. you can see that. and then you see the turnout of patriots with president trump today. do you read anything into those two pictures? >> not at all, erin. it's silly. >> why? >> because it's silly. who does it matter who the members of the patriots like or don't like for president. what does that matter? it's a silly analogy, silly comparison. >> quick final words simone. >> i think it matters that folks are not wanting to show up at the white house to stand next to
the president. >> they're football players, simone. >> no. there's other people who don't want to stand by him because he's toxic. >> chris, i'll give you the final word as the arbiter of this. do you think it's fair to post? >> not really. but i did want ron gronkowski to speak. i would have frayed bob kraft for gronk. >> brady lost them today. >> you saw gronkowski breaking into the white house press shop there for the spicer briefing. clearly, they're fans. the team likes the president. the team likes this administration. i won't read anything into it. >> thanks to all three of you. i appreciate it. next bill o'reilly gone. what finally forced fox news to pull the plug on one of their
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. breaking news. bill o'reilly is out at fox news action effectively fired, gone from the flag ship show after decades. ironically o'reilly today was with none other than pope francis at the vatican. publicly he says it was all just a witch hunt saying "it is disheartening that we part ways due to completely unfounded claims." fox news said "the company and bill o'reilly have agreed he will not return to the fox news channel." "out front" or panel. all of you know, margaret, used to regularly appear on fox news,
including bill o'reilly's show for years. let me start with you. this went down quickly. what can you tell us? >> for 20 years, bill o'reilly was fox and fox was bill o'reilly. the murdocks started an investigation with a law firm. we don't know exactly what the know the murdocks made a y we - decision based on the results from the law firm. that's the way roger ailes left. he hired o'reilly 20 years ago. now the same situation. >> so quickly. we know he was bringing in more than $100 million a year revenue. he was signing a new contract. that matters a lot, right? how much money is he possibly getting now effectively fired? will he be pays 10s of millions of dollars to do it? >> the contract renegotiation
does matter a lot. that took place early this year. he gets paid somewhere in the ballpark of $20 million a year. the average contract, two, maybe three years. you're getting 40 million, 60 million even more than roger ailes walked away with it. certainly the case that his lawyers will make -- or the case they've perhaps already made is, look, when bill o'reilly paid out the settlements, a lot of those were paid by the company itself. there's no way that the company can justifiably say that it wasn't aware of the accusations against him. of the settlements against him. yes, it's very hard to see a scenario where o'reilly does not walk away from fox news with 10s of millions of dollars. undoubtedly that will unsettle some of his accusers. he says the claims are unfounded. clearly, that is not the conclusion fox news came to.
they cite the kpre are hencive report about the accusations that convinced them to fire him. >> all of these, as you pointous, many settlements were over months and months over the past years, right? then they resigned another contract. >> over a decade. >> they clearly you no. are you surprised? >> i have told people privately. i've never said it publicly. he never hit on me. he never sexually harrah'sed me. many of us have uncomfortable workplace experiences. i have been in situations enough to snow never to put myself alone with people who made me feel uncomfortable. when i first read gretchen carlson's complaint who is really the unsung-hour of all this story, because she is the one woman who stood up in the
face of a culture that was condoning bad behavior for years and years and years, it was ultimately believable. there was a field of interacting that was uncomfortable. i might have ended up in a position where i koovn rul neshl. >> even during the early years when you were on o'reilly's show with her, even though it didn't happen to you, you got a vibe, a feeling from him. >> there were moments that were uncomfortable. and this is what's stunning. >> now we're hearing margaret saying this. others are saying this, that there are so many people who experienced this. and yet the company did absolutely nothing. >> there was silence. >> it was on the front page of the new york times. >> little rally. why did the times investigate? because gretchen carlson sued rornl ailes, it was the domino effect from that. >> it was. and an environment like that constitutionally it created, it
fostered and protected people who behaved badly in the workplace. it is very difficult to feel comfortable speaking up for yourself in a situation like that. >> maybe ripple effects, not just in television news rooms but across america. if even fox knows you can't keep it silent anymore in 2017, i hope it has equipment pacts across the country. >> thank you. another pick for high level post drops out. can anyone other than family make the cut? and why did nfl star and convicted murderer aaron hernandez kill himself until prison snn tonight his family is saying it might not be so side. boi
boirp. tonighted to rickets was one of trump's yerls picks. he wanted to serve but couldn't untangle all the finances. this is the third conflict of interest issues pick to drop out. roimtd taking a board member from the world champion chicago cubs organization to be the deputy commerce secretary. billionaire todd rickets. the president said the
incredible job he did in the purchase and turnaround of the chicago cubs is what i want representing our people. but rickets could not untangle his business connections enough to satisfy the office of government ethics and he withdrew. so did president trump's pick for secretary of the army, others billionaire businessman. >> everybody likes vin senlts. >> phillip buildin? >> foefls are experiencing significant decliens. >> reporter: same story. too many business ties to take the most. andrew plunger flamed out after his business practices came under fire including his hiring of an undocumented immigrant and many of those dwoirmd the white house team have raised sharp concerns with ethicists over their deep business connections and possible conflicts. the head of the transportation
brewero. the president's special infrastructure policy director could see his firm benefit. people with strong ties to the very areas they might influence are now in the food and drug administration. even the president's family is involved. >> white diamonds. >> his daughter-in-law and son are steeped in international trade especially with china and yet there they were in their roles as. al advisors sharing dinner with the chinese president. critics warned about this repeatedly. the president's team insisted there would be no problem but clearly the potential for conflicts of interest has government watch dogs on high alert. erin? >> tom, thank you. "out front" matthew dowd who was the chief strategist for the
bush-cheney campaign. special correspondent and the author of a new book, matt. i want to talk with tom's piece. three top nominees forced to drop out because of continental flikts of interest. but ivanka and jared kushner, that doesn't seem to matter to them. the majority of americans say it's inappropriate for either of them to have roles in the white house. >> it's family. what you see, when they're stresses and people circle around themselves people who are loyal to them. i think what you're seeing is donald trump in the initial stages was reaching out but now he's going further and further creating a shell and inside the shell seems to be family and friends. >> completely immune. jared kushner's painful going to do four-point -- >> everything. >> everything. what i was interested in
knowing. yesterday i was talking to retired general don allen who led the middle east peace talks for more than a year. he said people shouldn't discount kushner. here he is. >> i don't dismiss anyone who has the confidence of the president of the united states. my guess would be that mr. kushner has given his business backgrounder and given the success as he's had with business, my guess would be that he's going to surround himself with a lot of talent. >> that's not what others are saying. he's been in the middle of the peace talks. >> first, i think anybody being able to fix the middle east and bring peace, the chances are slim. but you have to say, we've had 50 years or more of people that have experienced people in the state department, people with all kinds of education, experts, all that, they haven't been able to do it. maybe somebody completely brand-new in this maybe can look at it differently, talk to people different lip. he's not going to do any worse than anybody else has done.
>> maybe a new look at it will be the first time we actually can do something. >> when you look at history and see the kennedy family or the youth and inexperience 206r the clinton administration. you see it rife in american history. is it different with jared and ivanka or is this a whole new low? >> i don't have a problem with his level of experience. i think bringing to washington is something else. i don't have a problem with the fact that he hasn't held office. my problem is who are they loyal to? in the end when they have to make a decision, are you loyal to the president because he's your father or father-in-law or are you loyal to what the country needs? at some point you have to make a decision many times. that's a difficult spot for a daughter orson in law to be in. >> oh, it is. trump says he has done more than any other. so far in his administration. >> no administration has accomplished more in the first 90 days that includes on
military, the border, on trade, on regulation, on law enforcement. we love our law enforcement. and on government reform. >> fact or wishful thinking? >> shocking that he's broken to exaggeration. one number that tells you how successful he's been is the fact that since the day after inauguration his negativity is over 50%. if he's doing a good job, the american public isn't aware of it. >> what you're talking about with jared and ivanka, can you put your country ahead of your family or political party. this is not happening in america right now. it's just not. >> no. the problem is that i think there are good people who go into politics. the system is like a sick building with mold or led pipes. people go in but they get sick.
we don't even have a common set of facts, which is a huge problem in this country today. i criticize both sides of it, the deep red and deep blue of this country of their inability to come together and reach a consensus. when you become a tribalized country, which is what we're moving forward, in all the areas of our life, our inability to come together as a country. >> a great risk to being the greatest country in the world. we don't even have a common set of facts. thank you. great to see you. >> right. >> and demanding an investigation into aaron hernandez's apparent suicide. and smoky robinson out front on the impact of his songs during a very difficult time in this nation's history. >> the music gave people of all races a common love. we're out of ink! ink, not ink. printing doesn't have to be painful. now, during "hp savings month" at staples,
hernandez was found dead in his cell this morning. but he said that he doesn't believe the 37-year-old would take his own life. >> reporter: five days after being acquitted of a double murder, disgraced new england patriots star aaron hernandez was found early this morning, hanging in his cell in a maximum security prison. the 27-year-old but serving a life sentence without parole for murder. according to the massachusetts corrections department, a bed sheet was found around his neck. and hernandez had tried to bar access to his cell by barring the door. his death ends the meteoric rise and tragic fall of a $40 million nfl star. once cheered by adoring fans, he died alone, the same day some of his former teammates and current super bowl champions were honored at the white house. despite being found not guilty last week of killing two men in
a driveway shooting outside a boston nightclub, hernandez remained in prison for the 2013 murder of his friend oden lloyd. hernandez was found guilty of shooting lloyd seven times in an industrial park less than a mile from his massachusetts home. a key piece of evidence, this surveillance video shows hernandez holding what appears to be a gun, prosecutors say it was the same night lloyd was killed. news of the disgraced football player's alleged suicide rocked his friends, family and legal team. >> it's very hard for me to accept the fact that he may have committed suicide. we are keeping an open mind. >> reporter: in addition to winning an acquittal for the double murder last week, attorney jose baez was appealing the guilty verdict. a spokesman said that it remains under investigation but there's
nothing to indicate this was anything but an apparent suicide. as hernandez was led out of court and back to his solitary prison cell, one of his last actions was to blow a kiss to his fiance and his 3-year-old daughter. >> what do they expect to find in the investigation into what happened? >> whenever there's an unintended death, they're going to do toxicology tests to see whether he had drugs in his system. his whole life was plagued by drugs even from the beginning. his rise and fall was so short, he essentially signed that contract and almost immediately thereafter he was caught up in this string of murders, drugs and all that stuff. it was tragic, because he had all the promise ahead of him and his father had passed away and people think that maybe that was the trigger, that he didn't have
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i spoke with music great smokey robinson. but first here's a look at our new series. >> the early 60s, you have the hands of unity and black change, once the black power movement comes along, the hams fade. you couldn't see people that had big fros and fist bumps singing we can overcome, it seemed incon grew went. >> there was a sense of identity and style and music. >> "out front" now, singer
songwriter, grammy award winner smokey robinson also featured in our original series song tracks that define history. smokey it's a pleasure to have you on the show. as we watch that clip, you have spoken about the difficulties of performing in the '60s, things that are hard for some now to imagine, not being able to stay at certain hotels. not being able to use the bathrooms where you were a performer. how does it feel to know that you played a role in the struggle for equal rights in this country? >> it's very satisfying to know that the music had that kind of an impact on the people and on the country really. because the music was bridging gaps that they were trying to legislate they were trying to force people into sbintegrationy many different methods. but the music was doing it.
the music gave people of all races a common love. >> and when you talk about the music dynasty, music like "i second that emotion," "tears of a clown" i mean your friend diana ross once said about you, smoky, i'm quoting her, if a great writer is a poet and a great poet is a genius, then smokey robinson is a miracle. what do you think it is about your music and those songs as we hear the clips, inspired such change in this country? >> i always try to write positive, if possible. you know, i read a lot about love, because i think love is the most poignant emotion that we feel as people. i think love is the most powerful emotion that we feel as people. ♪ what can make me feel this way ♪ ♪ my girl >> so i try to keep that in the
form of my writing if possible. i have always written about love, basically i do and i hope that that is probably what has the effect on people that it does have. >> all right, smoky, i appreciate your time, thank you so much. >> thank you, erin. nd sound tracks airs tomorrow night at 10:00, you won't want to miss it, anderson is next. good evening, thank you for joining us tonight after years of sexual harassment allegations ad millions of dollars in payouts to at least five payments, it happened, it happened despite hundreds of millionings of dollars over the united states. today after going so far as to ditch a network -- fox news this afternoon dumped bill o'reilly. we should say that the goings on in this business are normally not news, we ordinarily would not lead off the