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form of my writing if possible. i have always written about love, basically i do and i hope that that is probably what has the effect on people that it does have. >> all right, smoky, i appreciate your time, thank you so much. >> thank you, erin. nd sound tracks airs tomorrow night at 10:00, you won't want to miss it, anderson is next. good evening, thank you for joining us tonight after years of sexual harassment allegations ad millions of dollars in payouts to at least five payments, it happened, it happened despite hundreds of millionings of dollars over the united states. today after going so far as to ditch a network -- fox news this afternoon dumped bill o'reilly. we should say that the goings on in this business are normally not news, we ordinarily would not lead off the newscast with
this story. however there is nothing ordinary about any of this, not bill o'reilly's alleged behavior, not the company culture that tolerated it so long. tonight the rise and fall of bill o'reilly as told by brian stelter. bill o'reilly responded this afternoon, what did he have to say? >> reporter: bill o'reilly is saying he's being accused of things that never happened. he is not going to be invited back on the air to say these words directly, but he went on to say, this was a situation over the past 20 years at fox news, i have been extremely proud to launch and leave one of the most successful news programs in history, which is consistently informed and entertained millionin inging ii americans. and significantly contributed to
building -- that is the unfortunate reality many of us in the public eye must live with today. he concluded by saying i will always look back at my time at fox news with great pride in the unprecedented success we achieved. caution, you are about to enter the no spin zone. >> reporter: bill o'reilly is a fox news original, who got his start as a local news reporter. he later went on to report for both cbs and abc news. in 1989, o'reilly joined "inside edition," he anchored the show for six years, known for his big personality, even back then, o'reilly also became known for his temper, on display in this video that went viral. >> i can't do it. we'll do it live. nope, we'll do it live! do it live! i'll write it and we'll do it
live! this [ bleep ] thing sucks! >> in five, four, three -- >> that's tomorrow and that is it for us today, i'm bill o'reilly, thanks again for watching. >> reporter: o'reilly took a break from television in 1995 and enrolled in the harvard school of government where he got a masters in public administration. the following year he was hired by roger ails to host a show at a start up network called the fox news channel. the show was a great hit. at the time o'reilly also hosted a radio show. but for all his fans, o'reilly also earned nearly as many detractors, he was called a bully for his aggressive interviewing style. and at a book fair in 2003, liberal democrat al franken called him a liar
to his face. >> all he's gotten in the last
two years, he writes a new book, he tries to make me out to be a liar. shut up, you had your 35 minutes. shut up. >> reporter: o'reilly was the chief inspiration for the bombastic and conservative character played bring stephen colbert on comedy central. >> papa bear bill o'reilly has found another reason she should be taken out of the not yet running. >> there's got to be some down side to having a woman president, right? something. >> reporter: but his controversial comments were not something that would eventually bring o'reilly down. a fox news producer filed a sexual harassment suit against fox news. >> the last time i had spoken
to bill when this inappropriate conversation had happened, the
last time. he said it was going to be in person. and i was -- i felt extremely threatened for many reasons. >> o'reilly vowed to fight the charge. >> this is the single most evil thing i have ever experienced. >> and filed a counter suit for extortion. the case was settled for a reported $9 million and it didn't end there, in 2016, after accusations about fox news roger ails, allegations came out against women o'reilly. ails stepped down under pressure. just a little more than two weeks ago, the times story detailed a total $13 million in settlements between o'reilly and fox and the women that accused him. the reaction was fierce, advertisers pulled out of o'reilly's show by the dozens.
and just like that, the cable news king who once seemed untouchable is off the air for good, at least at fox. >> this is all playing out with o'reilly on vacation, he was in italy, i know he spent this morning in the vip section in st. peter's square, he shook hands with pope francis, reportedly requested the tickets for him and his family. i want to bring in our senior reporter for median reporters and also our media analyst bill carter and gloria borger to continue the discussion, what about o'reilly's attorney, up until today he was calling this a smear campaign by far left organizations. >> today no statement from the attorney, we have heard from a lot of other groups,ed a voe capacity groups who are trying to fight sexual harassment are cheering today. bill o'reilly is not coming back to sign off, already stripping
his name from the logo of the show. >> bill, i mean it's incredible, given the allegations against roger ails and now bill o'reilly, just the culture that allegedly existed within fox news for years and years and years. and it would have been difficult for the more docks to claim they were trying to build a culture based on trust and respect, which is what they said after ails left if they had kept bill o'reilly on. >> that's obviously clear now, and it does speak to what looks like a toxic situation there that they just allowed to happen. beyond the other things, they were giving under the table payments to these women in a publicly traded company, even now you have to question the executive hold overs there, is this really the kind of companya people want to respect and want to work for, especially for women? i think it's fantastic in a way, though, because it does say, no matter who you are in television now, if you go over this line, you just don't have protection,
it took a long time, but at least it dacame to fruition. >> to bill's point, bill o'reilly was in terms of ratings, in terms of advertisers started pulling out, in terms of money he was making for the network, was probably at the top of his became, the show was averaging the highest revenue ever, reporting nearly $46 million from 2014 to 2016. even somebody who is generating hundreds and hundreds of millions of dollars for the company was held to account. >> right, but it's not exactly a clear cut message, you know, if you ask me, anderson, look, it was a business decision to keep him, the company knew exactly what was going on, but as you point out, he was a huge money maker, but they had to pay money to women and they still resigned him. so that on the one hand is a signal that if the "new york times" hadn't done that story,
and it had not become a public issue, would bill o'reilly still be there and would that environment still be there? so i think it was a business decision to keep him, and i think in the end, it was a business decision to fire him, because once it did become must be lick, it became untenable for fox as a public company, it became untenable for the advertisers who had to pull out. and they had to just get out from under this morass. but it's not as if fox acted, i believe when it should have, earlier on. they did keep him. >> the andrea mack allegation that came in 2004. dylan, as gloria mentioned, o'reilly did just resign a $3 million contract just last month, they were aware of the investigation that was being held against him, but also the
"new york times" investigation. >> there's no question that the murdocks that fox news now about this accusations, they were involved in many of the settlements that were reported by the "new york times," so this was a business decision, like gloria said, and a business decision to let him go, as for what he goes with, all indications point to him going with tens of millions of dollars, just like roger ails exited the network, last summer with $40 million. o'reilly's contract said to be somewhere in the ballpark, potentially of $60 million if not more, a lot of people are viewing the ouster as a victory for the accusers, obviously a victory for the corporate workplace in america and i think
it will rub a. lot of accuserins and a lot of advocacy groups away with $60 million if not more. >> the accusers, even the ones who got settlements got nowhere near that sort of money. no, they didn't. and obviously, the idea that he's going to walk over that much money must make people cross stuff. but i think there's also a feeling like this sort of sets a precedent. i mean fox -- if a woman comes forward now, they really do have to respond. in the past, they were clearly burying these things, they weren't reacting at all. i think at a money him, there's going to be at least an opening to say we're not going to take this anymore, it's got to change the culture, if it doesn't, they'll wind up in the same situation again, i don't think anybody will be at o'reilly's level every again for fox, and he came forward saying all of these relies, all of these were lies, which is just what ails
said. it's pretty hard to believe them. >> the question is whether more women will or have come forward. and whether they will be unafraid to do so, you know, some of the recent people who have come forward have said, you know, i don't want any money, because they felt that was the only way to be taken seriously, because otherwise they would have been accused of gold digging as o'reilly have said in the past, so these women in the past have walked away with zero, but they say, okay, we were able to make this point. will women in the future feel that they will be able to come forward without any kind of retribution, either at fox or at any other corporate environment. >> and brian, i mean, the idea that bill o'reilly now has a book out about kind of old school values and how he represents that, is, you know, obviously is interesting. i want to play a clip, brian, from the first time that fox news addressed this on the air
in the 6:00 p.m. hour. >> o'reilly's ouster comes nine months after roger ails. rupert murdock and his sons have emphasized changing the culture of the company so that this behavior is unacceptable. and pressure escalated once the company asked a law firm to address the allegations. >> did they do the same thing with roger ails who was ousted? >> i have sympathy for my counterpart covering this story as it's going on, but what's happening here is bigger than fox, as others were saying it's a milestone for corporate america. this is bigger than o'reilly, it's about the future of conservative media and about the future of standards in the workforce, there are probably women watching this program, who feel they have been harassed by
their superiors in the workplace, maybe they feel a little more confident tonight coming forward because they have seen a david go up against a goliath in a couple of these cases, first with ailes and then with o'reilly. >> in their statement that we just played, him saying that it would only be women who felt uncomfortable. i think anybody would feel uncomfortable in that sort of a work environment. >> i would hope so. >> yeah, you would think. >> i would hope that men would feel uncomfortable if there were a colleague, a male colleague of theirs who was treating a woman unfairly and they heard about it. you know, what if a woman goes to a colleague and says, look, i don't know what to do, and i feel uncomfortable, come with me and let's talk to a supervisor about this because i'm afraid to go alone. i mean there are -- i think women have been intimidated and the thing that we should not lose sight of here with fox, is that this took a long, long time. and it didn't happen overnight. and it took a while after ails
and it took a newspaper, to put something, make something public for fox to act. >> i think gloria brings up an important point there, so much of what had to happen in order for roger ails and bill o'reilly to leave this company happened because of women. where were the male fox news personalities, the male fox news employees exhibiting that same level of courage? i didn't see it and i think gloria brings up an important point there. >> and you point out that a female reporter for the "new york times" was in the middle of this story after bill o'reilly actually threatened her on a previous story, and she stuck with it after she got this story. >> president trump, their relationship and how the president defended o'reilly just two weeks ago that. 's next. and also new explanation
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o'reilly was on the anchor desk for a while gathering huge ratings, meanwhile the president of the united states who's also been accused of sexual harassment by multiple women. after the "new york times" released the allegations, the president said that he thought that bill o'reilly was a good person and didn't think he did anything wrong. >> i have known the man for almost 30 years, did some business with his jet fleet and occasionally we go to shoportin events together. >> reporter: that was the day donald trump entered the race. >> i was watching last night, bill o'reilly, who's a great guy. >> reporter: boosting trump and o'reilly's numbers. their chuminess is no secret, they have been spotted at baseball and basketball games together, and apparently share a love of milk shakes, when trump snubbed a fox debate last year, o'reilly almost begged him to
rewere. >> i bought you so many vanilla milk shakes, you owe me. >> reporter: trump has been a frequent guest on the o'reilly factor. more evidence of symbiosis between trump and fox news. >> we want law and order. >> now their interviews happen in the west wing. in some ways, trump and o'reilly are kindred spirits, both bold, brash new yorkers, tv star who is know how to entertain and shock. >> you are two thin skinned. >> their friendly banter did lead to awkward moments. do you get mad at people like me who ask you the awkward questions? >> i don't know, you'll have to ask your psychiatrist, but i think you have become very negative. >> reporter: but the two men
also share something darker, both have been accused of exploiting their power, using it to exploit him. >> i'm not going to play too much of it because it's crude %-p tape was an embarrassment for donald trump. now with o'reilly ousted, some wonder what his friend, the president, will say about it. brian stelter, cnn, new york. >> joining us now is our panel. kirsten, you used to work as an analyst at fox news. what is your reaction to today's announcement? >> i think it's stunning because bill o'reilly was fox news, it was unthinkable that he would ever leave there except under his own terms. i did his show regularly for a long time. and i was thinking about an incident that occurred earlier
in my career, he got margaret's name wrong and he said hey get my name right, he said oh, i'm sorry, there's a lot of blonds in this operation, i can't keep you straight. megin kelley is coming up and talking about all these blond names, and he said thank you for your blondness. i said i don't want that to happen again. i said if you mean he's hypocri hypocrisy. i was called to my boss's office, there's nothing we can do, we're sorry this happened to you, i complained to roger ails, he said there's nothing we can do, it's bill, he's a jerk, no one likes him.
he said you know, bill likes to put up dirty pictures and ask pretty girls to talk about them. and then he said, you know, what am i going to do? i don't like him, but he makes so much money there's nothing i can do. >> who was this? >> roger ails. this was the culture, bill was just too big and there was nothing you could do about it. this is an election year, this is the biggest show at fox. and then about three years later, i went back and i said, look, i'm willing to give this another try. i came back on the show and we actually never had another problem. we actually ended up having quite a good relationship. it just spoke volumes that i had to completely handle it on my own, that there was no one that was willing to say anything to him, basically saying you can't treat one of our political analysts this way. >> kirsten, obviously not having worked at fox, i have only worked at channel 1, abc news and cnn, i cannot imagine
working in an environment where that was tolerated. not only the environment, but roger ails, the guy who was running the place. >> i will say for myself, i sort of look back on it and think, you know, why -- i mean i did quit his show, but i still did keep on working there, and i have to say to a certain extent, my generation of women kind of grew up always dealing with sexual harassment, or sexual discrimination, you know, i was never hit on, but i have dealt with this stuff so much, to a certain extent, you learn to tolerate it, you just come to expect that is going to be part of your job and this wasn't an isolated incident for me, you just learn to live with it. and that's not okay, and that's why i think it's important to give a lot of credit to gretchen carlson for coming out and
telling this story. the only reason i'm telling this story is that gretchen came out and talked about it on fox news. a lot of women don't talk about these things because if you make too much trouble, your career is over. >> and that's what roger ails was saying, he knew about it and kind of didn't care, threw up hiss hands? >> he's like, what are we going to do? he's the most powerful person here, he makes the most money for the channel, and okay well. it's just not -- it is kind of astonishing, and when everyone keeps saying, what was the culture like? well, that was the culture, i don't think that anyone really felt like complaining was really going to solve a problem. >> wow. jason, you obviously worked with president trump, you worked on the campaign with donald trump as a candidate, you know, bill o'reilly can be a tough interviewer, there's no doubt about it. i'm wonderering what you make of their, i don't know if friendship is the right word, do
you see it as a friendship, or has it been a mutual beneficial relationship over the years? how do you see it? >> it's been pretty widely reported that the president and mr. o'reilly have been friends for a number of decades, but during the time i worked for the president, it's really become a mutually beneficial relationship. o'reilly is one of the people that predicted the rise of president trump and captured the imagination of so many voters and it was really these who saw so many opportunities and who were essentially both helping each other. on the campaign trail, mr. o'reilly is a tough interviewer and there was no interview we would be worried about unless the president went on bill o'reilly. because he threw hardballs at him. what's more important is really what hasn't been said and i think the fact that you see the president focusing on what's important, obviously you're going to see some steel eo come
up tomorrow, talking about that congressional race in georgia yesterday, that's really where the president's been focused. >> but the president did bring this up to the "new york times" and defend bill o'reilly, and they did go out to sporting events together. i get that it was a mutually beneficial relationship, but it does seem to have gone beyond a professional acquaintance? >> the broader point i was making is if this was a big deal for the president, we would see him talking about it on a daily basis, but the president's clearly focused on leading the country and obviously the threat in north korea, and all the other problems that are facing us. and while we were watching the congressional rate yesterday, how many times did we see the president tweet about forcing a runoff election there. >> it would be ridiculous for the president of the united states to be talking about this, i mean, just from a political stand point, it would not be --
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we have been talking about bill o'reilly's firing at fox and the culture there. i want to talk about your take on all this. we actually found a clip of bill o'reilly talking about you actually from a couple of years ago, let's watch. >> this guy, van jones, let's be honest about this. this was a guy that had like the lowest job you can have. >> not true. >> this guy was sitting in a lawn chair. >> not true. >> on the mall in washington. >> not true. >> trying to get guys to rake up leaves to make it cleaner. >> not true. this guy is riddled with lies and distortion. >> that's obviously him talking to glenn beck. i'm wondering what you make of bill o'reilly's downfall basically? >> i think a number of things, i have been squirming just to hold it in. first of all, i have to point out that any normal situation,
donald trump has egg all over his face, hiss chest, running down his leg. it just turned out that he was -- multimillion dollar bayout as basically a cost of doing business with having this guy in the building. you don't hand out $10 million, $13 million because of one employee who can't keep his mouth shut, can't keep his hands to himself without several people knowing. this man, the president of the united states, put his name behind this man's name. ails, trump and o'reilly, three guys now known for a kind of braggadocios, predatory behavior about women. we're in this tug of war about what that means. it looks like women and people
who care about women, and people who have functioning brain stems and care about respect are starting to win this battle. and so you're watching a major moment now in american life in american culture, it's interesting to me, and i'll say this in my own, just, you know, lack of decency, that when they were attacking me, leaving the obama administration, ails was in place, glenn beck was in place, o'reilly was in place, they're all gone, i'm still here, let the justice train move on. >> jason i want you to be able to respond to what van said. >> i don't know what -- van's rhetoric on this was a little bit overblown, i think there were a number of false attacks that came out against the president this past year, and i think voters decided this. the fact that the president got 306 electoral votes, they
knocked it away. >> there was a videotape of the candidate, now the president, talking about grabbing someone by the vagina. that was -- >> and the president -- >> and the president apologized for using that verbiage. >> you guys keep saying that all the time. every time you guys say two things and it doesn't work anymore. number one, it's all fake news, that wasn't fake news, and because he got a bunch of votes, nothing now can stick to him. that's just not true, his numbers are in the garbage can because these things are starting to stick. >> what about -- >> it's not about the culture is now turning, even in fox news, the last bastion of this sort of behavior is collapsing, and you want to talk about an election from 234 from november.
you're not getting the point. >> there was two -- and unfounded attacks against the president are two different issues. >> if they're two different issues, why did the president associate himself with bill o'reilly. he's got other stuff to be worried about, but he jumps into it because he thinks this kind of behavior is okay and americans don't anymore. >> you're putting words in the president's mouth. i have not discussed there with the president, but what i can take from the situation, he's been friends with mr. o'reilly for decades. and they have -- >> what does that have to do with anything? this is what -- >> one at a time. kirsten go ahead. >> this is what donald trump said to me during the campaign about roger ails, that he's friends with him and roger was always a gentlemen with him and therefore he knows that rojer would never sexually harass anyone. what on earth is he talking
about. and i said this to him. why would how he treats you, another man have any impact on what he does with women in private. you said that since he's friends with bill o'reilly, that he can extrapolate that. and that he was talking about his behavior with him. when i spoke with him, he talked about whether -- he has claimed that he knows something that he simply cannot know. >> he did say that bill o'reilly should not settle because he didn't think bill o'reilly did anything wrong. >> i do think this is an effort to make this a big pig pile on the president. i think it's just a bridge too far here, the voters have decided this, the president was very clearly speaking to what he
thought about his relationship with mr. o'reilly and the president know what is it's like to have unfounded attacks being thrown at him. >> i want to thank everyone at the panel, just had the white house doubling down saying it doesn't matter that the car vinson was headed to the korean peninsula when they were actually headed to the indian ocean.
movements. it turned out to be more complicated although you wouldn't know it from mr. spicer's remarks today. >> we have it going toward the peninsula. it is a fact, it is happening, the statement that was put out was that the carl vinson was heading to the korean peninsula, it is heading to the korean peninsula and it will arrive there. >> it's headed there now, it was supposed to be heading there last week. >> we said it was heading there, and it was headed there, it was heading there. >> headed, heading, whatever verbiage the white house is using, but it sounded like president trump sent a pretty clear message to kim jong-un after the missile launch. >> we are sending an armada, very powerful, we have submarines, very powerful, far more powerful than the aircraft carrier, that i can tell you, and we have the best military
people on effort and i will say this, he is doing the wrong thing. >> that same day, sean spicer said this. >> i think when you see a carrier group steaming into an area like that, the forward presence of that is clearly through almost every instance, a huge deterrence. >> sending, steaming, white house getting into the grammer weaves, it sounds like something was happenings in that very moment. but it sounds like it was going in the opposite direction to take part in planned exercises with the australian navy. >> reporter: when the white house said that the uss "carl vinson" was headed to the kraern peninsula, it was -- the white house today attempted to clean
up the confusion. >> it was announced that it was going, it wil be there. the carrier will arrive as next week on station between the korean peninsula and japan, conducting routine but visible flight operations says a u.s. defense official. but those confusing media messages could have had national security implications. >> this couldn't be just considered a mistake or a miscommunication between the navy and the pentagon and the pentagon and the white house, that's fine, you have mistakes sometimes in military operations. but when you have these kinds of mistakes and it sends an indicator that there is a lack of coordination, a lack of coordinated effort, it could be problematic to both friends and foes alike. >> defense secretary james mattis defended the mixed messages. >> we said that we were going to change the vinson's upcoming schedule.
>> as for the overall message on north korea, those within the administration appear to be taking on the good cop, bad cop routine. >> just in the past two weeks, the world witnessed the strength and revolve of our new president, in actions taken in syria and afghanistan. north korea would do well not to test his resolve. >> a different tone from the national security advisor, emphasizing a peaceful solution and noting a reliant on what other administrations have tried. >> this problem is coming to a head, so it's time for us to undertake all actions we can, short of a military option to try to resolve this peacefully. and so we're going to rely on our allies, like we always do. >> as we always do. so right now, it's a bit unclear how the trump administration policy is new or different. anderson?
keeping them honest now, on why the white house seems so reluctant to admit when they talk about anything. is this just a mistake, do you think intentional, is there harm here long-term in terms of the trust that people have in what the white house says. >> the president has systematically damaged the credibility of the united states of america in just his 85 or 90 days and that's a big problem, and here's where we see it in a national security context. if i might comment on barbara's report, it is bad that they used the present tense instead of the future tense, it was a mistake and it was an important one, and he told maria bartiromo that we have stationed submarines off the coast. submarines go below the water, they are covert. we don't want our enemies to know what covert capacities we are bringing to bear, and he
it's just bucket mouthing this stuff out. i would not be surprised if comments like that make senior military intelligence officials worry that maybe they have to edit what they tell the commander in chief, which is a disaster. because he just is like -- he's emotionally incontinent, he just spews out whatever has been fed to him, you can't tell your adversaries that you have covert adversaries off their coast, because they're covert. >> jason, shouldn't the white house be saying,ive the white house says we're sending troops to this region to bolster our security, it does sound like they're actually on their way or about to be on their way, as opposed to yes, they'll get there in a week or two, as they make another stop elsewhere and do an exercise with another military. >> anderson, i'm still trying to figure out what the big deal is here, the fact of the matter is that the president said they were on the way, and they are on the way, he didn't say that they
would be arriving at this particular location at this time and they didn't arrive, he said they were on the way, if they stopped somewhere, they were conducting some exercises on the way en route to the korean peninsula, i don't think that's a big deal, quite frankly, i think going back to barbara's package, a moment ago, the bigger story coming out of this in the last 24 hours or so, is the tough message that vice president pence took to south korea and japan and other allies in the region, and making it clear that we need our allies to be pulling their fair share, i think that was a very strong message. earning i have seen from the president, whether it be with regard to syria or his handling so far with north korea, i think has been very good, i mean finally, we have an administration that's doing something about north korea, after eight years of absolute inaction, which
boggles my mind. finally, we have a president -- >> isn't the point -- the fact that the reason the president highlighted the fact that an armada, which is not what it is, but an armada is heading toward north korea, that is a way of projecting strength. the reason the president brought that up was to show that he was doing something about north korea. but what he said was not accurate. it gave the impression he was doing something in a faster way or in a more significant way than it really was. >> here is where i disagree. i push back. obviously, we're getting information from public reports and things that have been coming out. we don't know the time when he said that what was happening in between. certainly, they could have directed the ships and sent them immediately. if that was the cause and what they needed to do. for whatever reasons they're seeing, they made a decision that they can complete the
exercises before going. i don't see where this is a big deal. they're continuing to go to the region. we're sending a strong message to north korea. the president is doing a very good job with the military and foreign affairs. >> paul, they were going the other direction when he said that. >> right. they were going 3500 miles in the other direction. he just -- he is our president. he is my president. wasn't him -- i want him to succeed. he needs to be quiet. moving that armada, that carrier strike group is a huge message. one you don't have to trumpet in an interview on cable news or on your twitter machine. the thing speaks for itself. i think he needs to increase pressure on north korea and china. that's good. i'm glad my country is doing that. i'm glad my president is doing it. he needs to shut up. he says these things all wrong. this is the problem, america,
that eye minority of you voted for a guy, first time in history with no military and no governmental experience. we may pay a terrible price for that. >> i would disagree as i think it's important we send a message and sometimes that's going to be through the media, sometimes that's going to be when folks realize that there's a -- >> not from some loud mouth lout. >> we will have to agree to disagree. >> we leave it on that. jason miller, paul bagala. coming up, aaron hernandez found dead hanging from a bed sheet in his prison cell. look as his rise and fall from grace. what happened next. jack be nimble, jack be quick, jack knocked over a candlestick onto the shag carpeting... ...and his pants ignited into flames, causing him to stop, drop and roll. luckily jack recently had geico help him with renters insurance. because all his belongings went up in flames.
it's an abilirupt end to a short life. aaron hernandez found hanged in his prison cell. he hanged himself with a bed sheet. he was just 27 years old. >> reporter: they got it wrong. that's all aaron hernandez had to say as he began his life sentence without parole for murder. that was april 2015. it was a stunning fall from grace for a player with so much promise. trouble started early on. when he was 16, the future nfler's father died from complications following a hernia operation. hernandez began to rebel against authority. still, in high school in connecticut, he set state records for touchdowns and receiving yards and was named player of the year. later at the university of
florida, he was an all american tight end and a national champion. he entered the nfl draft shortly after his junior season but some teams steered clear, giving his reputation for marijuana use, guns and gangs. some who knew him considered his choice of friends thugs. but that didn't keep the new england patriots away. the team took a chance on him as the 113th pick. at just 20 years old, hernandez became the youngest nfl player on an active roster. he got a contract extension, too. signing a $40 million deal. >> it's a life long dream. still kind of surreal. take it in over the next few days, months, years. just it's a blessing. hopefully i make the right decisions with it. have a good life. >> reporter: life was good. but less than a year after inchiinch i
inking his contract, he was on the hook for three murders. in 2012, hernandez was accused of gunning down two men outside a nightclub in boston. earlier, one of the men had apparently spilled a drink on hernandez. >> the defendant had become increasingly sensitive and angered by what he believed to be people testing, trying or disrespecting him when he frequented nightclubs in the area. >> reporter: the following year, a man claimed hernandez shot him in the face and left him for dead. in june 2013, hernandez shot and kill eed oden lloyd. they found shell casings at the scene. surveillance cameras at hernandez's home showed him holding what police believed were the murder weapon before he went to meet lloyd. the gun was never found. there was a text message from lloyd to his sister, sent minutes before he was killed. nfl just so you know. >> that was shocking to a lot of us. >> reporter: hernandez was found
guilty and sentenced to life for lloyd's death. just last week, he was cleared in the 2012 double murder of the men outside the boston nightclub. his little girl looked on in court. hernandez wasn't going home. instead, aaron hernandez was returned to his eight by ten cell at state prison where he was expected to live for many years to come. randi kaye, cnn, new york. the end of the bill o'reilly era at fox news. it's ending with multiple sexual harassment accusations. the latest on all of it. a new look at the new cnn series premiering tomorrow night. music is an explosive expression. >> every movement has to have a song. >> i can hear you. the rest of the world hears you. >> the music will always remind us it's possible. >> one small step for man.
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