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>> i don't think anybody has done what we've been able it do in a hundred days so we're very happy. >> so tomorrow marks 100 days since this happened on day one. >> january 20, 2017, will be remembered as the day the people became the rulers of this nation again. [ cheers and applause ] >> that went smoothly. a parade. a ball. a weekend to celebrate and get ready for the task ahead. it lasted until day two. >> i made a speech. i looked out, the field was, it looked like a million, million and half people. >> this was the largest audience to ever witness an inauguration, period. >> first priority, the full force of the presidency aimed at crowd size.
the white house, this one, not business as usual. day eight the president signs a travel ban, executive order. there's the crowds again, an outcry and ultimately two defeats in the courts. day 25 the president's national security advisory lieutenant general michael flynn resign under a cloud of lies and suspicion. >> as a result of this situation and a series of other questionable instances is what led the president to ask for general flynn's resignation. >> by the way that cloud hangs over this white to this day. day 40, an address to a joint session of congress that even be pt president's critics call one of his finest moments. >> what we are witnessing today is the renewal of the american spirit. our allies will find that america is once again ready to lead. >> this was the most presidential speech that i have
ever heard donald trump give. >> i have heard from at least one senior congressional republican source tonight who said the president was presidential. >> very presidential. business as usual, even. is this the pivot, people ask. could it be? doesn't take long to answer that all thanks to a itchy twitter finker on day 44. the president tweeting how low has president obama gone to tap my phone this is nixon-watergate bad or sick guy. the white house kicks into high gear trying to justify this lie and gets even worse on day 60. what's that? the fbi director a announcing a criminal investigation involving the president, the president's team in collusion with an enemy to interfere in the election. definitely not business as usual. day 64, a huge failure on obamacare repeal, a signature
campaign promise. day 77 a missile strike on syria after a dictation ator gases his own people. day 81, banner day with the swearing in of justice gorsuch a promise fulfilled. day 85, seventh trip back and forth at lago at $1 million to $3 million per trip. and this week a mad scramble to rack up a score of accomplishments ultimately falls short. the president says the 100 day milestone is a ridiculous standi standard but he admits this on day 98 -- >> this is more work than my previous life i thought it would be easier.
>> don't know where you thought it would be easier, but if the first 99 days changed your mind that's a good thing with 316 more to go you're the leader of the united states of america of all of us please make the most of them. and of course this is the beautiful white where the president will wake up tomorrow to his 100th day in office. and i want to bring in now and discuss all of this bring in investigative reporter author of "the making of donald trump" and author of "all alone on the 68th floor" and author of "why wall street journal matters" go out and buy some books or go online and buy some books. david i want to start playing a clip president trump does just tonight. listen. >> you keep forgetting to say the biggest beneficiaries are the middle class people who have been absolutely hurt. >> critics are going to say real
estate companies like donald trump's company will benefit along with it. >> well i'm telling you what if i'm individually paying 35% i will tell you that's war, i'm going to end up paying more than i pay right now in taxes, all right. i will pay more than i pay right now. >> okay so we are probably know more about how much he would pay if he released his tax returns but just from what the ones you managed to obtain which is from 2005, david, would he pay more? >> no. he would probably pay 15% because they would apply that rate to all of his businessize. businesses. that's what he gets his money from his businesses. not from salary. and helping the middle class the current rates are 0, 10, 15 and then 25. they would go 10 to 25. now we don't know where the break point would be but that's a huge leap to go from so to 25 and then when you get to higher
income people only go up 10 more points reasonable way to do it to help the middle class would be 10, 20, and then 35. but they are focusing on the prosperous middle class because they know they can squeeze them and they don't have a lot of political power. >> donald trump won the presidency largely because he was an outsider who said he could use his skills as a ceo to make america great again. why have the first 100 days been so chaotic. >> because he's not a good ceo. wasn't good ceo at the trump group. is not a good ceo of our country. in fact i think all of the clips you showed show that he is absolutely demonstratably delusion. >> he did win, he wasn't delusional about that. >> he did win. he did stitch together an
electoral colle aal collegiate . he's lucky we don't have a parliamentary system where they have a snap vote where they would give him a vote of confidence he would be out. >> maybe in the parliamentary system if there was an election today he would beat hillary clinton not only in the collectoral vote but also in the popular vote as well. >> well i think can shatter it any number of times you want and see hillary clinton was not a great candidate and also had her problems but donald trump has been a terrible steward of our country in the first hundred days. i have to give him credit where it is due. market is at 21,000. i give him credit for that. he reversed himself on china. he said they are not a currency manipulator. give him credit on that.
at the last second decided not to tear up navfta. give him credit on that. >> barbara why hasn't he translates his success to the government. >> i think accountability. he could do whatever he wanted when he was boss of the job sites as developer, he had tremendous amount of political clout then and the way he saw politics is a way of getting things for himself and making influence to win permits and things like that. as a developer and as a businessman he didn't have the electorate of the united states entire population of the united states to be responsible to. he was responsible only to himself. and what he did, the way he approached things was he came out do this, just do it, and he found people that would just do it and nobody challenged whether
it was done properly or done correctly or done honestly. he tried that here and is finding out the people he has around him certainly go out and do it if he says say this they go out an say that. but congress, the press, other sources that will look at him and verify what he has to say are coming out and saying no, you can't just do it. >> well let me ask you this, barbara, would you consider you had a positive or negative work experience with donald trump? >> i worked for him for a long time and over that period of time i had both positive and negative experiences. >> so then why didn't you support him? in this election? >> i didn't support him primarily because of his positions. especially in terms of immigrati immigration, abortion, his financial plans, and deregulating industries that i think need more regulation, i mean, to be honest, on every issue i disagreed with him.
>> so to sort of refute what he has said about women and what is believed to be some of his actions about women talk about how much he's promoted women, you are one, you wrote a book about it, doa agree with that? >> to him to be great to woman as he claims, no i don't see that. he says he has all these female executives but i don't see them. he said he put women in construction, i don't believe that there's another engineer he put on his staff besides me. he hired me because i was good. he didn't hire me because i was a woman. it wasn't an affirmative action plan. i was the best person the contractor had working on the hyatt which is where i met him. when he hired me he said you're a killer. he said men are better than women but a good woman is better than ten good men. that's what he thought about me.
subsequently i don't see him hiring strong men or female. >> trump came to presidency with the least experience. for all his business and money he's not deeply knowledgeable in policy or issues. at the 100 day mark do you think he's learning? >> well, yes. donald wants to be successful. despite all of his deficits, he wants to be successful. bill was quite right in pointing out his dropping the currency issues with china his being persuaded that you can't blowup nafta and it was done by telling him the red states like texas who supported you will be hurt the worse if you do this because we have an integrated economy in north america, his willingness to understand he can't just be a
dictator and that's how he thinks of and talks baskabout t job of president. he doesn't seem to learn that congress is a co-equal branch. he doesn't have understanding of what the constitution says. i'm sure he's never read it even though the job description is in article 2. >> many of the president's closest advisors including ivanka and jared have no political experience either how much has it contributed to the confusion. >> i don't think they know what they are doing. this tax plan is like giving the keys to the candy store to every kid in america but it is going to be dead on arrival in congress because the deficit, debt consequences adding $7 trillion to the national debt over 10 years is a disaster. it will never get through congress. will you see another civil war
in the republican party over this issue he's just absolutely clueless and he doesn't even want the job he said so to reuters, i don't even like the job, i thought it was going to be much easier than it is what kind of president is that? >> well it's the one we have in office now. thank you. we appreciate it everyone have a great weekend. this moment from day 83, president trump recounting his first air strike while dining with the china president. >> i was sitting at the table, we'd finished dinner we're now having dessert and had the most beautiful piece of chocolate case you've ever seen and president xi was enjoying it. be this complicated. yet some cards limit where you earn bonus cash back to a few places. and then, change those places every few months. enough with that! (echo) with quicksilver from capital one you've always earned
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attention to president trump first 100 days let's discuss. all right. so bill, welcome, everyone. bill, in the past few days the president has done a bunch of interviews even on outlets he calls fake news is he trying to brand his presidency in the last few days or in moments leading up to the 100 days mark.
>> absolutely. he has said that the 100 days mark is a ridiculous measure. it's silly. for we shouldn't pay attention to it and on that point i absolutely agree we should have droped it long ago. it's nuts. >> he started saying that 10 or 15 days ago. before that he didn't say that. >> but these last weeks he's having interviews saying i have done in and this, yeah, he's trying to get the word out, so he's made a big deal of it. would be wiser not to. when you look at his record he's accomplished less than any president than i don't know calvin coolidge maybe. by his own tests he flunks his tests. i think he should have forgotten about the 100 days. >> i think john frederick agrees with everything. >> i think the 100 days is not the real number. the only number that matters to president trump right now is 96. 96% of his base supports the president.
they believe in what he's doing and are going to stick with him. that's the real number tonight. they want him to succeed. this is an unprecedented number. president trump's base is unique in american politics. they've stuck with him. they believe in him. but they also hold him accountable because at the same time when we had ryan care 95% of that base was opposed it to it because they thought it would sink his presidency. so this is a very unique situation. you look at some of his accomplishments he's doing exactly what he said. got rid of tpp. he's bringing job's back, bringing tariffs in. he's challenging nafta and he's upsetting the status quo. >> wait, wait, come on, john, you been drinking too much ko d
kool-aid this is a guy who said he could walk out on to 5th avenue and his base would still support him. that's true. that speaks a lot about his base. as president you expect him to do more once he's elected than to just throw red meat to his base. on his accomplishments he gave a speak october 2016 he said here's the 38 things i'm going to do in the first 100 days days he hasn't done one single one of those things. >> by the way i think washington post did a fact check and i think he promised 60-some odd things during the campaign. i think he's done five of them. five of them he hasn't done. and the other rest of the 30-something he just has not addressed. >> in fact if i could just add to that. if you look at the big five. repeal obamacare. infrastructure. build the wall. the muslim ban. and tax reform. right. those five.
none of them has he done. so where he is? >> he just rolled out a major bold tax reform plan. >> it's not big, it's one page. >> he ran against the same congress that can't get anything done on his behalf so no one faults him for that. but he's done a lot, bill, and he's moving forward very quickly. >> before you jump in. >> the reality is the number is 96%. >> you say 96% of his base and then you mention the congress. so he has a republican congress a republican senate and republican in the white house but can't get this stuff done. so how does that -- i don't understand that. 96% of his base which is probably not 96% republicans. >> here's the answer to the question. it's a great question but trump got elected by running against
the establishment. the status quo and running against congress. he's the president because a republican congress failed its base. >> he needs the congress in order to get things accomplished. >> that is going to come as we go forward. if you look at the tax plan he just rolled out it's bold, it's big, it's different. we'll see how it plays out. >> look let me just talk about the tax plan for a second. one thing you got to understand, donald trump has to understand, there's a big difference between saying here's a one pager of what i want to do and actually doing something. that's the same thing with obamacare. same thing with the wall. same with the muslim ban. he talks, talks, talks, big talk, do nothing. and the fact is he's president now. he's supposed to get things done. supposed to represent all americans. republicans control the house,
the senate and at white house, they control everything and can do nothing. that's not something to brag about, 100 days or not. >> the only thing that congress couldn't get through was the ryan care crony care, obamacare repeal and replace which was lousy piece of legislation -- >> let me ask you this, hold often bion bill, i read the breaking news as it happened last night that they weren't going to have the vote this week before the 100 days mark that they would try to do it after, the question is, really, why would he do it again? >> well, we've got to fix the problem. the obamacare program is imploding. he's the president of the united states. we've got to find a way to fix this. they got to get there.
they got to find a plan that work. >> can you be honest with me. >> yes. >> honesty is the best policy, don. >> seven years with the obamacare, with the affordable care act and 60-some odd votes to repeal and replace it. and even when you have the majority of everything you still can't get it done. what's that say? are you blaming that on, is it the president's fault? republican's fault? mutual fault? what's the reality there for you? >> let me tell you the difference between the tax reform bill and the ryan care crony care bill, they turned obamacare repeal and replace over to paul ryan and the congress that -- >> i got ten seconds don't mean to rush you -- bill i got five seconds. >> the tax reform bill is the presidents. if the president takes control of this he's going to succeed.
if he turns it over to congress he's going to fail. >> 20 more seconds quickly. >> there is no bill. there's a one-page memo. that is not a plan. that is not a bill. that is not reality. and he's got to get that same bill through that same congress. >> so what's happening here is the republicans haven't realizes they need to govern that. the producer is going to kill me is that what's happening bill. >> i think the president has realized, he's not a dictator, he just can't say this is the way things are folks. >> i got to go. >> you got it. >> have a great weekend. when we come back the president admitting the new job is harder than he imagined. but first another look back at memorable moments. day 81, trump keeping his promise to get a conservative judge appointed to the supreme court.
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veep thanks for joining us. >> thanks for having me. >> you have a great piece about president trump's first 100 days you say -- >> i think he is plugging his own mares. he is constantly at mara lago. double the initiation fees as he took office. his products and hoetles, everything is being plugged. all kinds of conflicts of interest with him and his family the kushner family it's a big pay day for him. >> despite his rocky first 100 days the president's supporters are sticking by him why do you think his failures are a win for
america. >> because i think the lazier he is the less damage he can do. the history of his administration so far is every big plan he's had, whether it be repeal, replace obamacare or change immigration law has been blown up by either the courts or congress controlled business his own party. so basically except for bunch of executive orders of varying nuisance equality he's not getting much done. i feel better. let's not have him build the wall. would be great if there's an infrastructure program to get jobs but he's not doing that either. >> so that's one of his main campaign promises and the washington post back checked the president's campaign promises and found out of his 60 promises kept five, broke five, taken no action on 34.
you say his promised have roughly the same value as diploma from trump university. you say it's a win for democratic. >> don't know if it's a win for democratic they're in disarray but certainly a win for the country he's not doing much on his ridiculous plans. there's a lot of dog and pony shows. press conferences where he's signing executive orders. it seems like something is happening even though nothing is. >> like a reality show. >> and a very fast paced one. 100 days feels like a decade far as i'm concerned. >> here's what president told reuters as he prepares to hit that 100 days tomorrow. >> i loved my previous life. i had so many things going. i actually. this is more work than my previous life. i thought it would be easier. i'm a details-oriented person i think you would say that but i
do miss my old life. i like to work so that's not a problem but this is actually more work. >> detail-oriented person. he's exactly the opposite of a detail oriented person. he released a tax plan that was just a bunch of bullet points you can't tell how many taxes you will have to pay as a american citizen. amazing he's learning it is harder to be president of the united states than to run a new york real estate business who would have thunk it. >> isn't it fair to say most presidents don't realize how hard it is maybe, i think the difference is he made it seem onto campaign that this would be easy for him and now he's saying this is hard but so early on in 100 days to say that i miss my old life or love my old life. >> exactly. he doesn't know how government works. yes other presidents have been shocked by the weight and
gravity of the president but he's saying something else. he's saying it is hard to do the job. thought it would be easy as picking up the phone to call room service at the trump hotel or to call carrier organizations to get some jobs back. i don't think he knew in simple civics course lesson how a bill becomes a law. i think it's all new to him. >> looking forward to the next 100 days what do you think challenges remain for him. >> well the one thing for his party he has to deliver is some kind of tax plan and there's nowhere near, there's no plan, it was just a press release and sort of announcement the treasury department and then he's going to international crisis. and then of course the one thing that every president faces is a crisis that you never saw coming, a katrina, a 9/11, god forbid and we don't know how he reacts in those significances. reacts in those situations.
he's going to have a challenge of some sort and we have to hope he will grow into the job. >> yeah, being leader of the free world is a hard job, every single president before him as said that. thank you we appreciate it. all you have to do is look at the pictures how they age in four years or eight years. >> question is will we age just as much. >> thank you frank always a pleasure. >> thank you. we'll be back how trump uses tv tactics to run the white house. >> and look at the trump families first easter egg role day 88 president and first lady hanging out with the easter bunny. thirsty skin? give it a drink! from l'oreal new hydra genius daily liquid care. our first liquid moisturizer with aloe water. absorbs instantly, for 72 hours of intense and continuous hydration.
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>> remember the drama around choosing the secretary of state would it be rudy giuliani a twitter tease whether i choose him or not rex tillerson for chairman and ceo of exxxonmobil is a world class player. ending with -- >> are you potential supreme court pick. >> saving his pick for prime time. >> he's very much trying to master mind his presidency with that sort of reality television sensibility. >> tv trump and president trump love grand entrances. boasts. >> and i won. >> we had such great success. >> i think it's the best success so for. >> it's going to be great job for american workers. >> going to be great. >> make america great again. >> and ratings bragged about
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you were onto apprentice with donald trump do you think he's changed since he's become president? or is he acting like the reality star you knew? >> he hasn't changed one bit as far as i can tell. i mean the country may have, but he didn't. in order to go on a reality show no skills really are required at all except for an absence of shame and embarrasment. and you have to cultivate that. and he seems to be exactly that way now. would have thought anybody in that powerful position would have some sort of cool but that's gonna way and people don't seem to miss it. >> are you saying the president has no shame and. >> i don't think i'm the only one that noticed it. >> president trump before he was president learned the skills he learned from reality tv to
become president was a strategy then what about now. >> you are going to elect a reality tv show star will you get a reality tv show star. he thinks like a he thinks about twists, surprise endings, new plot lines. that's the mind that rewarded him through "the apprentice." we see that on display now. whether it's buses coming from the senate to the white house. or a second supreme court nominee that might be on the way to washington. he's thinking in that way, dolling out storying for the media. we have to make sure we don't get distracted by his plot line. >> everything is a tease. wait until you see what's coming up. >> it's always coming up after the break. he might be a better tease than you, don, in terms of, stay tuned after the break. this is what's coming up next. >> do you think it's working for him? >> to some degree, i do. we see in the polls, a divide in
the country, between those who are supportive and those that don't. the president loves ratings. ratings tell you if people are interested. it doesn't tell you if people approve of the program. and that's why the approval rating numbers from all of the major networks are so important. they all line up. they all tell the same story, between 40% and 44% approval for the president. no doubt, he has seen those numbers. those should matter more than television rates. >> penn, from the previous answer, the question i have for you, are you concerned that the president is too wrapped up in production and the style, rother than the nuts and bolt s of fw i governing? >> that's the question. the question you asked was, is it working? what does working mean? staying president, cliff-hangers, getting high approval ratings is not what
presidents need to do. we have wonderful xomexamples o real statesmen and women throughout history who have done something that might have been the most popular thing to do. we're not supposed to be mob rule. there's supposed to be aethics . i think on tv, caring nothing but ratings, does not lead to a well-lead life or the best possible tv show. it could be working 100% and he could be not the best president to have. >> cyou can have a highly-rated show and not inform people. just fluff. you think the reality show president comes naturally, that title? and that thing for him to the president? >> yes. >> or is it planned, do you think? >> it's been almost two years
since he's entered the race, coming down the escalator. back then, it was the trump show. we were all watching in the summer and the fall, as he was campaigning before anybody voted. that term, the trump show can apply today. the issue -- i don't mean to sound like a high school social studies teacher, is government is supposed to be boring. functions of government is not supposed to be entertaining or s suspenseful or exciting. we see a president that is making it exciting and suspenseful. that's why a lot of people dread looking at their phones in the morning, wondering what news alerts come across overnight, of what's happened in the administration or the world. we're in the environment, a lot of anxiety. the united states of anxiety partly because we're experiencing a show this administration is putting on. there's good parts to that but bad parts to that, too. >> i thought it was interesting, penn, when reuters interviewed him about what it was like to be president in the last almost 100
days. he said, i didn't realize it was going to be so hard. it was him, him, him. is it keeping people hooked or feeding his ego? >> i only spent probably six or seven hours talking to him in my life. i never saw any evidence of a huge plan. and i any that that's one of the things -- i mean, random reinforcement. people getting interesting stuff here and there. if you had bill gates host "celebrity apprentice," we would have been the most boring show in the world. he would have made the smartest choice. you wanted someone that is capricious. i'm stronger in that. i think the government shouldn't be our focus at all. government is supposed to be in the background, so we can live our lives with freedom and individuali individuality. and all of us watching the government as though it were some show, is not anything that
i want out of a government. i want the government to be going on in the background, so my family, my friends and my co-workers and i live our lives, with the government in the brou background. not get up and see what's going on -- it's not a spectator sport. we're supposed to be the stars of our own lives. >> thank you, penn. thank you, brian, i appreciate it. i want to turn to cnn heroes. at 14, this week's hero was living alone on the streets. after years of struggle, she managed to find stability. and for 32 year, she dedicated her life to help vulnerable youth in israel, providing them with not only a safe haven, but with a family. >> it's very lonely. when you don't have your family, you have a black hole. i know exactly what they're going through. i want children to breathe. i want them to feel alive.
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