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heroes. it was incredibly satisfying to shoot with him. >> we should have led with blood sausage tonight. catch it sunday on cnn 9:00 p.m. thanks for watching 360. time for jake tapper and "the lead," the first 100 days. thanks, john. day 99, kim jong-un tests another missile and tests the patience of the international community. "the lead" starts right now. breaking news north korea does it again. hours after the u.s. challenges the world to get tough on kim jong-un, another north korean test missile flies. and president trump tweets. the buck stops there? a new interview, president trump blames president obama for not vetting michael flynn. michael flynn whom obama fired. did president trump not know whom he had hired? plus, it was so much easier pretend firing gary busey. president trump saying he misses
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his old life, which was easier as they all send reminders that those days are over. good evening and welcome to "the lead." i'm jack tapper. we begin with breaking news. north korea scaring the world by launching another missile as part of its nuclear weapons development program. the provocative move coming hours after the top u.s. diplomat, secretary of state rex tillerson called for international, economic, and diplomatic pressure against pyongyang. in response to the missile, a circumspect statement from the white house press secretary saying the administration is aware of the missile test. the president has been briefed. the president himself took to twitter to respond saying, quote, north korea disrespected the wishes of china and its highly respected president when it launched, though unsuccessfully, a missile today. bad! u.s. officials say the test was
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like a medium range ballistic missile aimed at the sea of japan. it exploded over land. we're covering this on several fronts. we have department of homeland security secretary john kelly to give us reaction from the trump administration. we will talk to congressman adam kinsinger. also former clinton administration official jamie metzvill. we will go inside north korea to will ripley. the only american broadcast journalist in pyongyang. well, the u.s. might deem the test a failure. north korea might not see it that way. >> reporter: that's right. for one thing, the u.s. and south korean officials are saying that this missile reached an altitude of 44 miles before exploding over north korean test. u.s. officials thought it flew for 15 minutes. and exploded over the waters of the japanese coast. it goes to show the confusion that results after these launches because this is a secretive regime that doesn't announce these things ahead of time. we no that as of right now, north korea has not acknowledged
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this happened. if they did consider it a failure, here, they may never acknowledge it. keep in mind the rocket scientists in this country learn just as much from failure if not more from successful tests. they will use the knowledge they gained in the early morning hours here and try again. >> what do you think the motivation for kim jong-un might be, jamie? >> i'm sorry. yes, i didn't hear that. for kim jong-un, this is a critical moment. president trump is increasing the temperature with all these statements. he is really putting a lot of pressure on the north koreans. at the same time, the north cureeens know china is unwilling to put enough pressure on north korea to stop north korea's nuclear program. that gives north korea latitude. they are basically thumbing their noses at president trump
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saying, what are you going to do? again, it comes back to the point that the united states has relatively limited options. we can put pressure on china. but china ultimately isn't going to put enough pressure on north korea to stop the nuclear program and the missile launches will continue. >> will, you have been on the ground there in north korea for several weeks. you have been there several times. does this tension feel different to you? >> reporter: this is more tense than i have ever experienced. this is my 12th trip to the country. we were talking to government officials. they do feel that now more than ever perhaps the chance of a military confrontation with the united states is a very real possibility. yet, they are defiant, despite the reports from washington that china may be willing to cooperate, despite the u.n. security council meeting. i have spoken with a number of officials on the ground here throughout last week who said they will launch more missiles, conduct more tests as their supreme leader kim jung-un sees fit. >> what do you think are the
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implications for south korea, this missile test, jamie? >> this is really important. it's not just the implications of the missile test. it's what president trump said. he said south korea would be asked to play for the missile defense system, in violation of south korea's agreement with the united states. he said we're going to try to renegotiate the south korea/u.s. free trade agreement. and he previousy said that south korea had been part of china, which makes all koreans north and south go crazy. with south korea's election coming up on may 9 and president trump presenting himself and the unit as unreliable allies, there are a lot of questions within south korea how much they can count on the united states and how president trump's very unpredictable behavior is going to play into the south korean elections and in many ways empower the liberal opposition who are more cautious about relations with the united states. >> will ripley, what about
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china, which is key here? any indication of how beijing might respond to this launch? >> reporter: well, china has expressed concern just this week that they fear the situation could really spiral out of control. and they are expressing a willingness to cooperate with the united states and the u.n. to sanction north korea, especially if there's a sixth nuclear test. their options would include restricting trade more than they have. they have suspended coal imports and major sources of revenue for this regime. more importantly, china controls a massive oil pipeline that supplies a good amount of this country's oil literally keeping the engine running here, so to speak. yet when you speak with north korean officials on the issue of china, they are particularly defiant, getting very angry with even imp plying that china has any influence over their activities. >> will ripley and jamie, thank you so much. let's go to adam kinsinger. he served both in iraq and afghanistan. congressman, thanks for joining
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us. what's your first impression of this launch? >> well, as your prior guest mentioned, it should be embarrassing to an extent for the north korean regime that it failed. but we can't look at that as something we celebrate. as was mentioned, every time they fire a missile and it fails, you learn what failed on it. maybe it was whatever part of the missile failed, whatever part of the launch system failed. then they fix that. they try it again, until they have basically a flawless system. each time one of these tests happen, it's actually really bad news. i think this is indicative and imperative on us to say, we have to step up the pressure. diplomatically, economically, yes. but you do that by having a credible military option. they're not good military options, right? this is not a good thing. we don't want to use the military option. it's next to the last worst case scenario. but you have to have a credible military option to force the diplomatic instrument of power and the economic instrument of power to work. >> you heard jamie criticizing president trump's tone and saying that he was part of the reason why things were getting
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out of control, things were getting more tense. obviously, most of the blame if not all of it goes to kim jung-un. but do you agree with that analysis and president trump's tone and his rhetoric are making things worse? >> well, look, i'm uncomfortable when the president tweets. let me say that. i think the tone out of the administration, the president, the secretary of the state and everybody else, is actually pretty good. the reason it looks like it's -- all this is stepping up and we're playing brinksmanship is because we're bringing to light the real issue that we haven't talked about for a long time, which is north korea is right now in a nuclear position where we did a whole iran nuclear agreement to prevent iran getting to. that's are north korea is right now. the last piece on the puzzle they have is to perfect their missile technology. they have a missile -- a nuclear
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missile they can deliver on our allies or on us. we have to bring attention to that. you would expect any time that is confronted and that is drawn out, you are going to have increased rhetoric from north korea as they talk about a super mighty strike or whatever they're saying. that is how diplomacy works. >> this is the ninth missile test just during the trump administration. how would you advise the white house to respond to this specific test? >> well, i don't think you can do -- this isn't going to lead to us doing a military strike or something. i think what you do here is you have conversations with china and say, look, it's not going to get any better. it's not getting better. right now china sees the north korea situation, they say, look, north korea is basically a buffer between us and american troops or american interests. it's in their interest to preserve that regime. we need to turn that on its head and make them realize that it's not in their interest to preserve the regime. in fact it's in their interest
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to denuclearizize the north korean peninsula. they are influential. we can work together on it. they have to see that that formula has switched on its head. >> the missile defense system just deployed in south korea, is this the right thing for this type of war to be able to shoot down a potential -- a potential nuclear missile? >> for short to intermediate range missiles. not to for an intercontinental. the ones the koreans have right now that they can put nukes on, this is a terminal defense. what happens is as a missile enters the territory, this takes it out. it actually does not have an explosive warhead. it uses kinetic energy. hence the missile itself, both are destroyed. what it does do, it doesn't actually risk igniting a nuclear warhead incoming. it destroys the vehicle. it's the right system to have there. frankly, i think it's amazing when you see what american engen uty can do to hit a
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missile in the air. >> congressman, thank you for joining us. >> any time. sticking with breaking news what does this new ballistic missile test mean for keeping america safe? we will talk to former marine general john kelly next. stay with us. so you miss the big city? i don't miss much... definitely not the traffic. excuse me, doctor... the genomic data came in. thank you. you can do that kind of analysis? yeah, watson. i can quickly analyze millions of clinical and scientific reports to help you tailor treatment options for the patient's genomic profile. you can do that? even way out here? yes. even way out here.
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for joining us. appreciate it. >> thanks, jake. >> so president trump warned last night that a quote major conflict between the u.s. and north korea is possible. hours later, we see north korea fire this ballistic missile. do you think north korea's actions this evening makes the major conflict that the president warned about as a possibility more likely? >> well, i think they're not fast enough to put a missile launch -- i don't believe they are. i don't know what kind of missile it was, jake. but i don't think they're fast enough to put a missile launch together based on what the president may or may not have said last night. this was probably something they had planned. they could have slowed it down. but they seem to be pretty intent on developing the capability both missile technology as well as nuclear technology. it's a real concern for anyone that knows about the possibilities of them linking a missile to a weaponized atomic device or nuclear device.
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>> it's believed to have been a failure. that's the word right now. has the u.s. used its cyber arsenal to sabotage north korea's missile program? >> well, if i knew that, i couldn't comment. but i don't know. this missile technology business -- i'm not a scientist or a techno-type. the missile technology business is complicated. they have some pretty good scientists, obviously. but they don't have people like we do and the numbers we have. but it's a pretty complicated business. whether it was destroyed itself on its own or was some other factor, i don't know. the good news is, it didn't do very well. >> just ow a few days ago on sunday on the state of the union, you told dana bash that north korea will
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have a nuclear missile that will be able to reach california by president trump's second term. is the development of the ability to launch such a missile in itself a red line? is it -- if it becomes a certainty that they have that technology, would the u.s., without question, strike to prevent it from happening? >> well, i don't have too much insight, actually, into the intelligence of how they're doing, other than to know that certainly when i was on active duty, they were doing very well. i believe they will have the technology. unfortunately for mr. trump, all of the attempts in previous administrations to somehow get them to be more responsible, that is to say to stop their technology -- missile technology development and atomic development, they tried and they failed. and i don't criticize. they did try. but it has fallen on this president that they will in my opinion have a workable missile,
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icbm-type missile that can hit the united states, not all of the united states, but hit the united states. they're working hard to develop a weapon to put on that missile. i would say that i think by -- if we can predict it, it's going to happen on this day, we need to stop it before they get to that point. >> president trump says north korea is his biggest global concern. is north korea your biggest domestic concern? >> north korea? >> mm-hmm. >> is that what you said? not right now. for me in the homeland, because they're not able, i believe, to strike the homeland yet, there's a lot of other things that are concerning me. as that came closer and closer as a possibility, clearly, the impact of a nuclear weapon on any part of our homeland would be catastrophic. there would be a recovery aspect to that if it ever happened, god forbid. that would concern me greatly. you are talking about millions
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of lives. quite a bit of devastation. environmental impact. for right now, i'm worrying about other things. i'm keeping an eye on what's going on on the peninsula. >> i want to get to other things in a second. one last question. on north korea issue, what's your response to critics who suggest president trump's language and rhetoric about the north korea issue might actually be increasing tensions? >> i don't think -- i don't think they are increasing tensions at all. this guy that's running -- the dictator in north korea is on his own program. even china and others are trying to influence him to stop his actions. i think what mr. trump is doing in my mind is outlining the threat and the very real possibility that this guy -- the dictator there could have a nuclear weapon in the not too distinct future that could be married to an icbm.
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any president who didn't talk about it in stark terms would not be doing his job. >> do you think kim jong-un is mentally unbalanced? >> heck, i don't know. he seems like someone who knows what he is doing. clearly, the number one thing in his mind is to remain in power. i think in the dynamic of a dictatorship like that, he has to do that by convincing everyone around him first of all holding them in terror and convincing everyone around him that he is a strong man and is willing to stand up and all the rest is rhetoric. i think the only way to decide whether he is insane or not is to lay him down on a couch and have a battalion worth of psychiatrists talk to him and figure it out. >> secretary kelly, stick around. we have more to talk about, including other threats to america. we'll be right back. n that schwab billboard. oh, not so fast, carl. ♪ oh no. schwab, again? index investing for that low?
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welcome back to "the lead." i'm jake tapper. minutes ago i was talking to department of homeland security john kelly about the missile launch. i was intrigued where the said the threat of bombs in electronics on airplanes keeps him up at night.
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so i asked him about the ban that applies to a hanful of countries and what he meant when he said that ban could expand everywhere. was this based on new threat information? >> the thing that keeps me up at night no doubt is the attempt of terrorists to knock down an airplane in flight. there's a number of ways to do that. obviously, explosives are the way to do it for sure. and we're doing the best we can. the good news is we know from various ways that the terrorists respect our -- that is to say united states tsa-type operations. they respect it greatly. we're considered to be a hard target. i hope that works. that's a deterrent hopefully. they're trying. we hear it all the time in the chatter. there's a -- let me say a few -- some of the chatter is real. some of it is specific. in an abundance of caution, we
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have to date decided to at best inconvenience travelers at certain airports on the way to the united states, to inconvenience them to put large electronic devices in the check baggage. they can bring them. but in the check baggage. i guess they are forced to read a book or magazine or talk to their kids. i would rather that, that inconvenience, than a flaming ball of fire coming down from 30,000 feet. to your point about expanding it, we're constantly looking, constantly listening. constantly trying to figure out what they're doing. i would have no hesitation to expand the limitation of carrying electronic devices on airplanes bound for the united states if the threat and my evaluation of that threat
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brought me to that point. no hesitation at all. >> what would need to be the profile of the country to avoid a ban on electronics being brought on board by a passenger? would the country need to have airport security equal or about equal to what we have in the united states? in other words, are we looking at a possibility where almost every country except for, like, australia, france and england you are not allowed to bring electronics on a flight to the united states? >> let me make the point first of all, there's pretty irresponsible reporting, not by this -- certainly not by you and not by this network, that we did this because there were muslim countries, that they were arabs or we wanted to influence the profit margin of an overseas foreign carrier to advantage our
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own carriers. totally irresponsible. was never part of the factors that i looked into when i banned -- when i implemented the protocol in the ten airports. you know, the threat is real. there's one airport that is on the list of ten right now that has come forward to make a suggestion that if they were on a volunteer basis, if passengers were willing to go through the inconvenience of having their electronic devices opened up, inspected visually and checked with explosive residue detection devices, would that be enough? i'm considering that. but this has nothing to do with the airports. has nothing to do with their attempts at trying to prevent this. this is a different kind of
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threat. it's real. for right now, an abundance of caution, we have certainly restricted the direct flights carrying electronic devices in the passenger compartments to the united states out of ten air fields. >> secretary kelly, thank you so much for your time. really appreciate it, sir. >> sure. thank you. see you, jake. my panel is with me now. let's get back to breaking news on north korea test firing a ballistic missile this evening. david, let me start with you. secretary tillerson, president trump issuing stern warnings to north korea over the last 24 hours. this is kim jong-un's response, the missile test. you advised four presidents. if you were in the white house, what would you tell president trump to do regarding north korea? >> first of all, i think it's important that he issue stern warnings. he has to have a steel fist there. they will respond better to that than anything else. i think for international
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purposes it would be better if he put a velvet glove around that steel fist. i think it's important to make sure the rest of the world knows he would like -- he would prefer a negotiated settlement. he would like a peaceful outcome to this, a peaceful resolution rather than a conflict. i think you have a lot of worry about miscalculation. the thing that has surprised me the most today is the fact that he is wading into a squabble with the south koreans about the trade agreement we have with them and who will pay for the missile defense system. contrary to an agreement obama signed, he is saying, you guys ought to pay for it. >> the missile system? >> to do that in the missile of what is a building crisis is a surprise. >> what's your take on how president trump has handled the crisis and what you would tell him to do? >> i agree with david. we got into this because republicans and democratic administrations have treated not him but his father before him as
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sort of cooks. china will control them. they have developed a nuclear weapon. they are developing missile technology. they are making the same threats that they made before they had that technology. unlike rational players like china and russia, where we are assured destruction works, it doesn't work. for someone who is not rational or at least has moments that he is not rational. that means to me that we need to get tough. the fact that we are being tough and that china is actually doing something, we have never seen china act this hostile toward the north koreans in my political career. >> keirsten, very interesting white house politics going on this evening also. when the launch first happened, the white house put out a statement from sean spicer saying the administration is aware of the most recent north korean missile test. the president has briefed. very terse. just the bear minimum.
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a few minutes later, a tweet from president trump saying, north korea disrespected the wishes of china and its president when it launched unsuccessfully a missile today. bad, exclamation point. i don't know it's cognitive dissidense. >> there's a lot of rhetorical bluster going on. but what's ultimately different? that's what came out of the meeting with the senators, that they had. a lot of the senators felt like, what was the point of this? ultimately, what they said was, we're going to use diplomacy with our allies and push for economic sanctions. that's essentially what the obama administration was doing. i don't know, maybe this bluster helps in some way. i don't know how it's really that much different than what president obama -- >> anything around here, words do matter. you hear this about the president saying, he -- his words matter. it's not bluster. he is saying things no president said in a long time. >> it's possible that the words are aimed at china just as much
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as they're aimed at north korea. do something or else i'm unpredictable and you don't know what i'm going to do. >> and there is some method to that madness. i completely understand that. just from the flip side of it, the way all of this -- especially the nine attempts that he -- that kim jong-un has launched under this president and trump's responses, from people in america's point of view, if there's not sort of a velvet glove in this, people are -- get really nervous. he has to temper what his message is to the folks overseas and what he is telling people at home. cnn did a poll earlier this week. in that poll, it was very interesting. the numbers are that 27% of citizens say they have confidence that trump can handle foreign affairs. interestingly, 52% feel that he has put the country at risk.
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so he has both messages to the folks, to our allies, our adversaries and the people at home. >> stick around. we have more to talk about. president trump is blaming the obama administration for not having fully vetted michael flynn. why won't the president fully distance himself from his ex-national security adviser? that story next. dear predictable, there's no other way to say this. it's over. i've found a permanent escape from monotony. together, we are perfectly balanced, our senses awake, our hearts racing as one. i know this is sudden, but they say: if you love something... set it free. see you around, giulia ♪ for us, it's rocky mountain water...n. ...or nothing. coors banquet.
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welcome back to "the lead." i'm jake tapper. let's bring back the panel. david, the white house yesterday tried to shift blame to the obama administration for michael flynn flynn, because his security clearance was renewed during the obama administration, perhaps without enough diligence. that's not the same thing as vetting somebody. president trump added to that this evening. take a listen. >> i do feel badly for him. he served the country. he was a general. remember, he was approved by the obama administration at the highest level. when they say we didn't vet, well, obama, i guess, didn't vet
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because he was approved at the highest level by the obama administration. >> obviously, president obama fired michael flynn. security clearance is different than vetting somebody to be national security adviser. >> absolutely. let's remember, when he was cleared by the obama administration, there was a stretch of time after that, before he got -- before he went into the trump administration, right? what you do in every administration with top appointees coming in is you double-check them, especially in those key positions. you do it as of that day. you want to know if something happened last week, last month. who knows whether -- you have to renew the security clearances on a regular basis to keep on top of things like this. whatever the obama administration did -- they may have screwed this up. there's no question the trump personally was responsible for bringing michael flynn into the white house and then trusting him. if his team failed him, maybe the president -- i think the president can get off but i
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don't think there's any question that somebody around him failed. >> can i just say, to say the obama administration screwed up when it was flynn who did not disclose that he had been to russia and had received these payments -- that's the reason why he is being investigated. it would be -- they didn't have information. certainly by the time the year went by and all of this stuff about russia and the picture of him sitting at the table with putin appeared, by that time, that was the point at which he should be vetted. that was when he went into the trump administration. >> footnote, what's interesting as you said earlier, the president's not denouncing him. he wants to keep him close in. >> interesting. >> why do you think that is? personal loyalty is very important to president trump. do you think that's one of the reasons why he is not going after michael flynn in any way? >> michael flynn was one of the few guys who came out early on in the process and supported
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donald trump. >> absolutely. >> he was a represent reputable person. you don't forget that. i don't think he will turn on him. that's not to say that as david said they didn't make some mistakes. i don't think you will see him turn on him personally. >> or he knows some things and donald trump doesn't want him to talk about them. i actually am not a believer that donald trump is that loyal. he demands loyalty to him but he throw people overboard when they're not working for him. the fact he's not criticizing him suggests maybe flynn has some information. >> everyone, stick where you are. we have more to talk about. stay with us. president trump isn't the first president to admit the job wasn't what he expected. maybe there are people who had a worse 100 days than him. that's next. what's the best way to get two servings of veggies? v8 or a fancy juice store? ready, go! hi, juice universe? one large rutabaga, with eggplant... done!
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welcome back to "the lead." i'm jake tapper. sticking with our politics lead, president trump reflected on how difficult he has found the job of president to be. >> i loved my previous life. i had so many things going. i actually -- this is more work than in my previous life. i thought it would be easier. >> previous presidents have
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reflected on the difficulty of adjusting to the new lives and responsibilities. bill clinton once called the white house the crown jewel of the prison system. the notion that president trump thought the job of president of the united states of america, that that job would be easier than hosting celebrity apprentice and running the trump business empire, that's pretty stunning. he has had a tough 100 days. there are many americans who have had a much tougher 100 days of the trump presidency than has president trump. for instance, craig moss who lost his son rob in the opioid crisis in 2014. he believed trump when the candidate said he would do something about the crisis. craig supported trump so strongly he traveled the country to trump rallies singing the candidate's praises. after the health care bill, moss
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says he will never vote for trump again. >> i don't believe he was true in his word. it's not at all what mr. trump promised everybody he was going to provide for us. >> he has had a much rougher 100 days. so has one of the dreamers. dreamers brought into this country illegally by their parents through no fault of their own. dreamers, the president says he feels sympathy for them. but this man, who was brought here when he was 6, he was recently held in detention for 18 days. he and other dreamers, they live in constant fear because the president is cracking down on illegal immigration. they don't know what's going to happen to them. >> 19 days ago, i was took away from my home. the last six months have been extremely hard. the past three weeks were the hardest. >> cancer patient melissa nance is worried about losing her health insurance. she's covered by obamacare. trump said he would fix it. he said it would be easy.
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but congress has passed nothing. >> i battled cancer and survived. now i'm having to i feel like battle and fight to make sure that i have health insurance. and it's exhausting. >> i could go on and on, of course. the factory workers who were told by the president that he would bring their jobs back. he has not introduced a single jobs bill. the troops in harms way wondering if the president has any actual foreign policy strategy or whether he is just winging it with them on the front lines. these americans are depending on you, mr. president. they're depending on you to honor the promises you made to them. they are who this is all about. i know you like the cheers at your rallies. if you listen more closely, they're not yelling trump. they're yelling, help. these are the people who have really had a rough 100 days. i want to go to jeff zeleny. we have blunt talk from the president saying the presidency is harder than he thought. other presidents have expressed surprise at the job being
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different than they expected and tough. does this seem different than that? >> reporter: it does. one reason is, we have never heard so many presidential -- any presidential candidates in the five election cycles i have covered say how easy the job would be going into it. that's what mr. trump said again and again, how easy this would be. of course, he is finding out it is not. the question is, does he want to be president? his adviser and friends say he does. to compare his words to other presidents at this mark, we went back to take a listen. >> i don't think anybody has done what we have been able to do in 100 days. so we're very happy. >> reporter: president trump may say he is happy as he crosses the threshold of his 100 days in office. >> i don't think there's anything like this. >> reporter: there's a feeling that he is longing for the days of trump tower. surprised by the challenges of the oval office. >> i do miss my old life. i like to work. so that's not a problem. but this is actually more work.
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>> reporter: hardly the first frusitated by the ways of washington. at the 100 day mark, new leaders often offer a rare look into the growing pains of the most powerful position of the world. president obama put it like >> reporter: during his prime-time news conference in 2009 when the president and white house correspondents looked younger, mr. obama conceded that governing is harder than he thought. >> i can't just press a button and suddenly have the bankers do exactly what i want or turn on a switch and suddenly congress falls in line. >> reporter: despite all of the attention paid to the first 100 days, defining moments of most presidencies come far later. >> i can hear you. >> for president bush, the terror attacks of september 11th and the iraq war still months
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away. >> oh, i know we always don't agree, but we're beginning to get a spirit here in washington where we're more agreeable, where we're setting a different tone. >> reporter: president clinton may have been frustrated by gridlock. >> i learned that things are not going to change quite as fast as i want them to. >> reporter: but still intent on changing washington. >> it may be we can only do one thing at a time in this town. that may be. but i'm not prepared to acknowledge that. >> reporter: for president trump, serving his first time in elected office, his frustration set him apart from recent predecessors. it's not clear he actually likes his new job, which seems far more difficult than he so often described. >> we're going to start winning again. we're going to win so much that you people are going to be angry at me. >> reporter: now, there is some anger at this president, probably not the kind he was thinking there on the campaign trail. but as for all those promises of winning, jake, by my count, he has more than 1,300 days left to
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still deliver on those. >> at a muinimum. thank you so much. he's visited a golf course 19 times since being sworn into office, but president trump says he's not relaxing on the course. he's not relaxing on the course. stay with us. say carl, we have a question out your brokerage fees. fees? what did you have in mind? i don't know. $4.95 per trade? uhhh. and i was wondering if your brokerage offers some sort of guarantee? guarantee? where we can get our fees and commissions back if we're not happy. so can you offer me what schwab is offering? what's with all the questions? ask your broker if they're offering $4.95 online equity trades and a satisfaction guarantee. if you don't like their answer, ask again at schwab.
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welcome back to "the lead." i'm jake tapper. sticking with politics, tomorrow
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president trump will mark his 100th day in office with a campaign rally in the city of harrisburg. it's a state that was key to his electoral victory. what do you think of that? what do you think of marking his 100th day by going to pennsylvania for a rally? >> it's the state that put him over the top on election night and was one no one thought he could win. so i'm delighted. >> did you think he could win it? >> absolutely. i came on television. i believed -- >> i know what you said on television. i wondered what you thought in your heart. >> i object to that. i'm here telling the truth every day. >> i'm just joking. what do you think? i know some people who are not necessarily trump supporters think why does he have to keep having these campaign-style rallies? this is all just narcissism, what do you think? >> i don't have a problem with it honestly. if he wants to go and connect with the people that he feels helped get him into the white house on his 100th day, i don't have a problem with that. >> there are those who say he
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should be spending more time reaching out to people who didn't vote for him. >> i totally get somebody playing to their base, but when he does that, obviously he's not expanding. i mean politics is about expansion, right? but here's what i would say to democrats who are kind of giddy over these first 100 days at how little he's done. i know his team is going to learn from this. they've got to focus on the economic populism that brought people to him. so if he doesn't successfully renegotiate nafta in a way that makes us strong and, you know, makes products here that we ship everywhere, if he doesn't focus on getting that infrastructure bill, then i think -- then that second 100 days is going to be like the first 100. but i can't believe that's going to happen. so democrats don't assume that the second 100 days is going to be as good as the first 100 in terms of pro-democratic side.
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>> david, i've seen evidence that president trump and his team especially have learned on the job. i think that they're putting out people like general kelly, secretary kelly, we heard from before, nikki haley. i don't sense that it's as disastrous as a lot of democrats seem to think it's been. >> i think that's right. i think especially true on the national security side. mcmaster coming in as national security adviser, the decision-making process is much more like a normal decision-making process, and you get the sense there's order. and, you know, they get the options straightened out. i think sometimes he goes off with bluster, i might say, on national security. but i think his team is doing better. i do not think they've got their act together on the domestic side. and for right now, for example, this is about ideas. you've got to convert people to your ideas, and you've got to be out campaigning not about the politics of things, but where is the country going and what are you doing to try and change things? i don't think he's handle the
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health care bill very well. the rollout of the tax bill is -- >> is there a tax bill? i just saw a half page sketched on a napkin. >> i like a lot of what he's doing on his tax bill. but, you're right, he's not out there selling the specifics. i really believe that the policies he ran on, the overall policies that jennifer talked about, the economic populism is exactly where america needs to go. he has a winning issue that actually can unite democrats and republicans, but he's really chosen not to focus a lot of time and energy on talking about it. >> you know what he talks about, he did it at the nra. he talks about his electoral victory. >> really not a good strategy. >> he's learned some. the one thing he needs to learn is knowledge that he has to learn these issues and he has to have knowledge about these issues. i believe he's not out there talking about it because he's not comfortable talking about the -- >> nor is he selling it to his own party. >> good advice for president trump if he's watching rightsant for "the lead."
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i'm jake tapper. be sure to tune in sunday. it all starts at 9:00 a.m. eastern. i turn you over to "cnn tonight" with don lemon. thanks for watching. this is cnn breaking news. >> breaking news, north korea tests a ballistic missile and a show of defiance against growing pressure from the trump administration. are they also testing the new president? this is "cnn tonight." i'm don lemon. pentagon officials say the test failed, the missile blowing up over north korea territory, the launch coming just hours after president trump warned of a possible major conflict with north korea. meanwhile, tomorrow marks the president's 100th day in office. the stakes are high for a president who made a lot of promises and has been feeling the pressure to deliver. but how does he feel about holding the highest office in the land? we'll discuss all of that, but i want