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be sure to tune in sunday. it all starts at 9:00 a.m. eastern. i turn you over to "cnn tonight" with don lemon. thanks for watching. this is cnn breaking news. >> breaking news, north korea tests a ballistic missile and a show of defiance against growing pressure from the trump administration. are they also testing the new president? this is "cnn tonight." i'm don lemon. pentagon officials say the test failed, the missile blowing up over north korea territory, the launch coming just hours after president trump warned of a possible major conflict with north korea. meanwhile, tomorrow marks the president's 100th day in office. the stakes are high for a president who made a lot of promises and has been feeling the pressure to deliver. but how does he feel about holding the highest office in the land? we'll discuss all of that, but i want to begin with north korea and go right away to cnn
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international correspondent will ripley. the only western tv journalist inside of the country. and also with us from the white house, our senior white house correspondent jeff zeleny. will, i'm going to start with you. good evening by the way. a u.s. official confirming that north korea test-fired a ballistic missile. this comes after president trump warned of a, quote, major, major conflict. what are you learning? >> hey there, don. yeah, we are not hearing anything from north korean officials on the ground here in pyongyang. in fact we informed our government contacts about this attempted launch early this morning. given the fact that this is believed to be a failure, it's very likely that north koreans will never hear about this. i've been in the country before where there are attempted missile launches that fail. they're never announced in the state media. if it had been a success, there would have been a triumphant announcement. we know that this missile did reach an altitude, according to south korean intelligence analysts of about 44 miles, and while it didn't go as far as they wanted it to, the rocket
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scientists still gained a lot of valuable intelligence even if the missile launch is a failure. so you can expect more launches to come. in fact, officials have been telling us that all week. also they say the world can expect more nuclear tests as well. >> to jeff zeleny at the white house. what is the white house saying about this? >> reporter: jodon, we do know e president was briefed on this on air force one when he was flying back to washington, and he has not said about this. in an official statement from the white house, they said they were aware of this. but then of course about an hour or two later, he went to social media and had a message. i think we have it. he said this. he said north korea disrespected the wishes of china and its highly respected president when it launched, though unsuccessfully, a missile today. bad. so, don, his advisers, also his foreign policy advisers called it a provocative move here, and they're keeping an eye on it very carefully of course. but it's interesting to note these official statements coming from the white house are not saying much at all here.
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the u.s., the white house is hoping that china will step in here and sort of ease any rising threat from north korea. but, don, it is one of the biggest threats facing this president. you know, he's been talking about it most every day, getting briefings on it of course every day this week and most of his presidency. >> the president is also commenting tonight on his new tax plan he released this week ahead of his 100th day in office. what is he saying? >> reporter: he is indeed. he's touting his plan. don, interestingly, this is the first time he has talked about it actually. his white house had a big release of this plan on wednesday, but he did not speak about it at all. but in an interview with fox news, he was talking about the fact that it would help everyone, including the middle class, not just higher income earners. let's watch. >> you keep forgetting to say that the biggest beneficiaries are the middle class people who have been absolutely hurt. >> but your critics are going to say, well, real estate companies like president trump's company will benefit along with that middle class.
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so is it going to make it harder for you to get that big cut in the middle? >> if i'm individually paying 35%, i will tell you that's more, okay? i'm going to end up paying more than i pay right now in taxes, all right? i will pay more than i pay right now. >> but interestingly, don, he said he'll pay more than he's paying right now, but the reality is we do not know how much he will pay because he has not yet released his tax returns. so once this tax discussion becomes more developed on capitol hill, that will be a refrain from democrats and others saying, where are your tax returns? the white house, of course, says he still has no plans of releasing them. >> jeff zeleny at the white house. again, will ripley in north korea, the only western tv journalist inside that country. will, if anything happens, we'll get back to new this broadcast. thank you, both, gentlemen. a busy night ahead of the president's 100th day in office. i want to bring in cnn political analyst mark preston, timothy that tally and doug weed and sally quinn.
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good evening to all of you. thank you for joining us. timothy, i want to start with you. big picture. 100th day in office. what have you learned? what have you gleaned about president trump, the man, and the commander in chief? >> well, i've gleaned two things. one has to do with president trump the man. and the other has to do with the system around president trump. i mean there are two stories in these 100 days, and in the days to come. one is the president's inability to successfully follow through on his campaign promises, and the other, the way in which the system around him is presenting obstacles to his america first agenda. by the system, i mean the courts. i mean the congress, and i mean a republican-dominated congress. i mean also people within his own administration. one of the big stories -- and we've talked about it -- is that there was a struggle within the trump administration over the extent to which the bannon-trump
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ideas should prevail. so this is not just a story of the shortcomings of donald trump, the leader. this is also a story about the strength of the system that is actually preventing some of the crackpot ideas from being realized. what we learned about him as a leader, he's got a short attention span. he wants a lot of -- he wants wins. he is willing to change on a dime if he doesn't get what he wants the first time. he'll switch his policy entirely. and finally once again, he's unwilling to admit error. none of those things are surprising given the campaign, but what's surprising is that he hasn't changed in 100 days in office. >> mm-hmm. the question is, mark preston, given everything timothy just said there, there is the tendency in this administration to brush that criticism and the reality off as an alternative reality when it certainly shows there are no major legislative accomplishments here within the first 100 days. and as a matter of fact, there have been very few promises that
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have been delivered upon. >> well, that's true, don. no question about that. i think one of the biggest stories that's going to come out of these 100 days as the historians look back is the fact that there's been this embracing of falsehoods and lies quite frankly and an acceptance of that. i think that speaks broader to the problems that we're having here in the united states certainly with their faith in government. you know, and donald trump really has been able to capitalize on that. i mean he ran his presidential campaign on fear by and large and was very successful. but to your point about governing, all of his successes to date are done through executive order. they've not been done working through legislative process with congress. and, in fact, when they have been, they've been failures simply when you look at health care and what have you. again, it's the first 100 days, don. he has a second 100 days and a third 100 days and a few more years left certainly in this first term.
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perhaps he will make the turn because i know that certainly everyone here in the united states, even though his supporters don't believe this, want president trump to be successful. >> it's interesting, doug, because in a reuters interview, the president said he thought being president would be easy, that he missed his old life prettily early on in his administration, before the 100th day mark. but here's some of what he said of how he thought things would go. listen to this. >> and mexico's going to pay for that wall. mexico is going to pay. they know it. mexico is going to pay for the wall, and that's an easy one. >> and it's so easy to stop the globalists. and it's so easy to stop, and we're going to stop it. >> you're going to have such great health care at a tiny fraction of the cost, and it's going to be so easy. >> i said when you see their trade deficit, billions and billions of dollars, and you
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look at the cost of the wall, then you'll understand how easy it's going to be. >> we're going to do something with nafta that you are going to be very, very impressed with. that's going to be an easy one, folks. that's going to be an easy one. >> we're going to make america great again. it's going to be easy. >> okay. doug, listen, every president i think probably steps into that office or sits behind the desk in the oval office and they say, wow, this is hard. but he, on the campaign trail, may be one of the only people that i can remember certainly in my whatever years to say, well, no, this is going to be easy. that's going to be easy. repealing and replacing obamacare would be so easy. tax reform was imminent. he said on the first day all the funding to sanctuary cities would be canceled. there was a certain amount of hubris to everything he was saying and now he's getting hit with a huge dose of reality. >> i can tell you i've interviewed six presidents of the united states and co-authored a book with one and traveled internationally with
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one and in campers and motels and cars and private airplanes with another and had a couple in my home. every one of them wanted to be president pretty bad, and gerald ford wrote when he was in congress about driving by the white house at night on his way home, and he'd think -- he'd hear a little voice whispering, hey, if you were president, you'd be home by now. so they all wanted it. yes, they respected it. and i remember after george herbert walker bush was elected president, when i went in the oval office, he pulled me aside. he said, i finally understand what abraham lincoln meant when he said he prayed more after he became president. so they feel that load no matter who they are. if they're a businessman like donald trump or if they're an experienced, hardened politician like lbj. they're all going to say it's harder than i thought. >> yeah. sally, president trump also told reuters that he loved his previous life, the freedom he used to have. now it looks like pretty much what howard stern -- by the way,
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we learned a lot from howard stern over the course of the campaign. but howard stern said this just 12 days into this administration. he predicted how president trump would be feeling. listen to this. >> i really was sincere. i said, why would you want to be the president of the united states? it's -- you're not going to be beloved. it's going to be a [ bleep ] nightmare in your life. he stepped into a situation that's really not a win for him, and it's going to be -- he's a 70-year-old guy. he's got a great life. gorgeous wife, all the acute remanhattr reme rementes. now to step into the mess, you know, there are people who are better suited for this kind of thing, and they don't need -- he didn't need this in his life. >> by the way, that's why howard stern is probably one of the best interviews in the business,
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why i listen to him and millions of other people listen to him. he was right. do you think president trump is longing for his previous new york life? >> i do. the thing is i don't think he ever expected to be elected. i think he was running as a sort of a lark. it was a p.r. campaign. it was a carnival. and suddenly, much to his shock and everyone else's, he got elected. and now he's stuck. and i think that if i had to use one word to describe this first 100 days, it would be "chaos." probably the second word would be "incompetence." i think he's sort of been careening all over the place in his first 100 days, ricocheting off obstacles that he's created himself. and i think that this whole idea that he keeps saying, gosh, this is really hard. health care, this is really complicated. like who knew? i just don't think -- i don't think he had a clue. and i think one of the things that's interesting to me is how after the first 100 days and
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people have gone through their various stages of grief and have come to the acceptance point, people are now saying, well, you know, it's not so bad. and you sort of say, well, why do you think it's not so bad? and people say, well, we haven't had an apocalypse. we're still here. we haven't been bombed. and i think that there is this tendency now to talk about the new normalization. >> sally, you know what it sounds like to me that you're saying? it's that he's like, oh, i can't believe the people bought this because maybe he didn't -- he didn't even convince himself. >> well, i don't think he did. this is why i think everyone is in shock, and i think he is really horrified at the situation that he's in now where he has to make these decisions. and if you look -- i mean people voted for him because they thought he would be a strong president. but the fact is that he has turned out to be, so far as i remember, the weakest president we've ever had. >> okay. >> if you look at the way he changes his position one right
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after the other. somebody just has to say, that's not a good idea, and he's going, okay, well, forget nafta, you know. >> as they said, if you want to have the influence on the president and policy, just be the last person to speak to him, the last person in his ear. hold those thoughts. when we come right back, what lessons has the president learned so far, and what's ahead for the next 100 days? first, here's a look at the president's first day in office. the president and first lady dancing on inauguration night at the series of balls. there they are. ♪ ♪
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that you don't know already, but the president is still -- he's still reminding folks of that fact. as a matter of fact, here he is today. >> earlier in the evening, remember florida, north carolina, south carolina, pennsylvania, all the way up. we ran up the east coast. and, you know, the republicans have a tremendous disadvantage in the electoral college. you know that. tremendous disadvantage. and to run the whole east coast and then you go with iowa and ohio and all of the different states, it was a great evening, one that a lot of people will never forget. a lot of people. [ applause ] not going to forget that evening. >> he's -- anyway, i'll go on. i mean he's -- he's -- it's like yearning for that day, like the good old days, which were just,
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you know, a couple of three, four months ago. actually it was a little bit longer than that. that was today. and there's also at this reuters interview, he passed out a map of his electoral college win to each reporter. mark, i don't know. can you explain why he's so obsessed with this? >> a couple things. don, he used to do the same with you. he would show you the polls. >> listen, i thought, you know, it was unorthodox, unusual, but at least he was in the middle of a campaign and he wanted to show me what he was doing. the campaign is behind him. the election is over. >> right. so a couple things. one is he's looking in the rearview mirror and he's sitting in the driver's seat, and he's not looking at what's in front of him necessarily, or if he is, he's being distracted, which i guess is probably more of the latter. he is distracted by his own successes because it really does get under his skin that people don't think he is the legitimate president of the united states. and he gets so frustrated by that, and the fact of the matter is he is the legitimate
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president of the united states. >> why does he think people don't see him as -- >> because democrats continue to this day to say that the election was stolen and that the russian interference -- >> it's the whole russia thing and the electoral college win. >> correct, all of that. but here's the problem. as tim said earlier, you know, the fact is he's the president of the united states. >> right. >> he has a lot on his plate. he needs to be successful. and to do so, don, he needs to start listening to people outside the white house, people who have been in politics before, because the fact of the matter is this is a very difficult job, and he did acknowledge that himself. >> i need to go quickly, guys, if you can. brevity is the key here because i want to get all of you in. we have a lot to cover. tim, would you say president trump is the least knowledgeable president in modern history? nafta, he was shown a map about nafta and on and on. >> listen, presidents don't have to be able to do well at jeopar jeopardy, okay? that's not important.
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what's important is that they have a theory of government. they don't need to know trivia, but they have to have a sense of how to govern and have a sense of the nature of the federal government. donald trump doesn't understand the size of the government, and he doesn't understand that some of the ideas he campaigned on are mutually exclusive. there's a basic incoherence to what he's promised, which is why this past week when he thought about jet isonning nafta, they said, by the way mr. president, if you undo that trade deal, american farmers who voted for you are going to be in trouble. and he said, really? i had no idea. so what we are facing is a president who has taken tough and very vocal stands on things he actually doesn't know anything about, and that is troubling. >> if we think back to congressman elijah cummings, he said that he told the president he could go down as a great president if he represents everybody. but robert kennedy jr. said something similar to me. listen to this. >> i think donald trump can be, you know, any kind of president
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he wants. actually he has an extraordinary opportunity because he's coming into office less burdened by obligation than probably any president in our history with the possible exception of andrew jackson. i think he could be the greatest president in history if he wanted to. >> doug, do you see the president bringing folks who disagree with him into the fold, and how does he turn things around? >> yeah, i disagree with a lot of what's been said here today. i think he's been very successful in many areas. i think he's turned around the economy. i think he's turned around illegal immigration, which has dropped like a rock even without the wall. he is the wall. i think he's turned around the supreme court. those are the three things that the people who wanted him to win voted for him. that's why 96% of them still support him and why he would be hillary clinton in a poll that came out two days ago if it was head to head again today. so i differ a little bit. i also differ with the idea that presidents are stupid. i've been hearing that all of my
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life. abraham lincoln's cabinet -- fellow cabinet officer used to write letters to his wife and refer to the president as our dear imbecile, and people think these presidents just fall into office. it's just like a throw of the dice. but i've been inside the white house, and i can tell you they're highly calculated. some of my journalist friends can't believe some of the stories i tell them of how issues are parsed, political issues and what political discipline these people have. i agree that he's out of the box, and that's what robert kennedy jr. was talking about. that gives him an opportunity to offer solutions because he thinks differently, and he's breaking the dishes and throwing over the tables. that's kind of what i wanted to see. >> sally, as i said, unorthodox. but, listen, the economy -- whether he's turning the economy around, some people may want to argue about that. the border wall and immigration, many people believe he should get credit for that.
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and also the supreme court. he did get a nominee. he got someone on the supreme court. whether you want to argue if it was mitch mcconnell or the president, it still happened under his watch. what do you say, sally? >> well, i don't see he's built a border wall yet, and i don't see he's solved the immigration problem. he did get gorsuch in, and i suppose that that would be the one thing that you could say he accomplished. but i don't think that you can be a successful president if you have no ideology and no convictions and if you don't have a moral compass. and we know that he is ethically challenged because we know that he doesn't tell the truth a lot of time. and i think that ultimately that is going to prevent him from being a good president, not just not a great president, but a good president. and i think that the inconsistency that he shows, particularly in the way he deals with every aspect of government has got people terrified, particularly our foreign friends
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and enemies. i mean the foreign leaders are all completely terrified because they don't know from one minute to the next what he's going to do and what he thinks. and i've talked to a lot of the ambassadors and they all say they don't have a clue. so what they've decided to do -- one of them told me actually tonight, what they've decided to do is not pay attention to what he says. and they've told their home offices that because they can't believe what he says. >> for our adversaries, it may be going that they are terrified of him. but for, you know, our allies, not so much. again, it's only been 100 days. let's hope this is a learning curve for him, a learning period and he's learned from the last 100 days. thank you all. i appreciate it. when we come back, more on north korea's ballistic missile launched today and how the world is reacting to trump's presidency 100 days in. >> a major world moment. the u.s. dropping the mother of all bombs on isis in afghanistan on day 84. think you have to live with damaged hair? rethink your haircare.
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dozier, and mike allen, former majority staff director of the house intelligence committee. so glad to have all of you on this evening. ambassador woolsey to you first. north korea launched a ballistic missile a few hours ago. the u.s. says it was a failure, but is kim learning as he goes? does each new attempt make north korea even more dangerous? >> well, i think it's actually a little worse than that because the objective that they need is not to hit a target on the other side of the earth. that's the normal flight direction for an icbm, and that would nomrmally be the case. but they can launch a satellite into orbit, and it can be a relatively low orbit. the first thing we ever launched in space was a satellite. that's actually much easier to do than to hit a target on the other side of the earth. and if that satellite contains a small nuclear weapon and it's
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detonated over someplace, say the united states, it can be devastating to the electric grid. so we've got a bigger problem than that he might go beyond launching something into orbit and be able to hit a target on the other side of the earth. it might take him a while, yeah, that's okay. the longer it takes him, the better. but he may have more up his sleeve than that. he may be able to detonate something inside a satellite that is in orbit, and that is extremely troubling. >> mike allen, to you now. this missile launch comes on the heels of the president telling reuters the u.s. could have a major, major conflict with north korea. the president tweeted this, saying north korea disrespected the wishes of china and its highly respected president when it launched, though unnecessarily, a missile today. bad. what do you make of that? how should the u.s. respond?
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>> look, i think the president is appropriately putting north korea at the top of our agenda, at the top of his foreign policy agenda. and, again, in the tweet, you see him trying to put the chinese first in recognition that they have the most sway, the most power, the most economic links over the dprk. and he's trying to say to china, hey, listen, the calculus has changed. we no longer are going to sit around in a policy of strategic patien patience. we are going to ratchet up the sanctions and the pressure. and as the secretary of state said, all in an effort to try and get them to the negotiating table. but first let's change the calculus. let's change how things have gone so far. so i think it's been an appropriate period of ratcheting up the pressure. look, we've got a long way to go. we haven't solved this in 20 years. we weren't going to solve it in 100 days. but so far, so good. >> kimberly, the north koreans have been conducting massive
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live fire exercises for days, including a simulated attack on the white house and the capitol as what appear to be the "uss carl vinson". could the tough talk backfire? >> well, that's what some critics of the trump administration are saying. they're saying the president's tweets, the president's recent interviews are irresponsibly skating the line, going possibly far enough to goad kim jong-un into doing something he doesn't mean to. today, to see them launch this ballistic missile or attempt to launch this ballistic missile tonight was a disappointment for the trump administration. secretary of state rex tillerson offered a carrot at the u.n. today. he talked about possibly being able to return to talks if they see some sign that the kim
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jong-un regime is going to move towards denuclearization but demanding all-out denuclearization. they also mentioned that the u.s. at one point gave millions of dollars to the north korean regime to help its people and basically offered that. that was according to a senior administration official i spoke to -- that was an intentional signal to north korea that there is a way out of this military confrontation, and they didn't take it. >> yeah. all of this happening within e that 100-day mark, which is tomorrow, ambassador woolsey, whether it's confronting north korea, dropping bombs on afghanistan and syria. these first 100 days of the trump administration, the foreign policy has been aggressive so far. but can you tell us what the end game is? is there a trump doctrine? >> i don't know that there is yet. there may never be. but i do think there are two bright spots. one is that he selected very
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able people as his senior people in the national security area, jim mattis at the defense department, several marines who served together as chance would have it in afghanistan and iraq. and also he seems to be able to step back and have a second look at things. he started out being very interested in a cordial or better relationship with russia and very tough on china on trade. and over the course of the last several weeks, he's migrated toward a more collegial relationship with china and a tougher one with russia. i happen to think that's the right way to go. other people may not. but i think he's thinking through these issues and learning from how things are going and making decisions, and that's good. >> mike allen, let me ask you about the missile launch from kim jong-un. was that his answer to the u.s. threat, and are we on a course that could become difficult to
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reverse? >> i wouldn't put it past him. look, he always engages and the regime historically has engaged in quite belligerent, aggressive behavior. i wouldn't necessarily say we're on a runaway train towards a military confrontation. look, we're taking a calculated risk here in the united states in that we're trying to up the pressure on north korea and china simultaneously. i think we want to avoid war, of course, at all costs. and the only way to get out of this trap that we're in and that we've been in for so long is to try and get the chinese motivated to take action. i think we've said to them basically so far, listen, we are prepared to put iran-style sanctions, very tough sanctions on your banks that do business in north korea and give you a strategic choice. would you rather work with the united states, or would you rather continue this relationship with north korea? these are the choices that we need to force upon the chinese.
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this is the calculus shift that we need to usher into the calculus with north korea. so, look, it's not without risk. but to do nothing like we've done in recent years, in the long run is much riskier. this is the path we've got to take, and i think the president has shown some remarkable resolve so far. >> thank you. when we come back, president trump speaking to the nra telling them the eight-year assault on gun rights is over. but could he change his position on guns? we'll discuss. stay with me, mr. parker. when a critical patient is far from the hospital, the hospital must come to the patient. stay with me, mr. parker. the at&t network is helping first responders connect with medical teams in near real time... stay with me, mr. parker. ...saving time when it matters most. stay with me, mrs. parker.
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president trump says the eight-year assault on gun rights as come to an end with his administration. it was part of his campaign-style speech at the national rifle association's annual meeting today. here to discuss, cnn political commentator ben ferguson and jason cander. >> happy friday. >> happy 99th day of the trump presidency. >> i can tell how excited you are about that. >> listen, it's been a very
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exciting 99 days. let's just say that. so he spoke at the national rifle association today, ben, the first president to do so since ronald reagan. i want you to take a listen to his message. here it is. >> the eight-year assault on your second amendment freedoms has come to a crashing end. [ cheers and applause ] you have a true friend and champion in the white house. no longer will federal agencies be coming after law-abiding gun owners. no longer will the government be trying to undermine your rights and your freedoms as americans. >> so, ben, why the need to give a red meat speech to the nra? >> well, i think for the last eight years, a lot of gun owners like myself have not felt comfortable with the government
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and there has been a very clear message from the past administration that we were coming after many of the guns that we thought you shouldn't be able to own. and so it was appropriate for this president to go into the nra and to assure their members and assure others like myself that are gun owners that, hey, you don't have to worry anymore. i'm going to protect and defend your second amendment rights instead of coming after it and trying to take away those rights from you. a very smart decision the same way it was for ronald reagan. >> can you name any legislation over the last eight years that was aimed at taking guns away? >> yeah. i mean there was multiple times that the white house, after pretty much any type of school shooting that they had or any other type of mass shooting that they had, where they said we're going to come after ar-15s. they had to bring in guns and get approval to bring them into washington and put them on a board when dianne feinstein and others were trying to go through the litany of guns they were going to try to ban. they worked on that, and they didn't have the votes to do it. they did it almost every single
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year when barack obama was in office except for maybe the last year, and every time they came up short. they claim it was the nr a's fault. they said that the political will wasn't there. they said how many more people are going to have to die. but ultimately a lot of times when they were claiming what guns were evil and bad, they were guns that they just didn't like the paint color and didn't even understand how they worked. >> jason, can you name any legislation that took people's guns away? >> no, because let me just translate for what ben was saying. the answer he meant to give you was no because that didn't happen. that's just some stuff everybody made up. >> it failed. >> no. the truth is that what he doesn't want to say is the same thing that the nra doesn't want to say. they don't want to say the words background checks because the majority of americans want that. furthermore, as somebody who took on the nra in missouri, i can tell you that nra members disagree with the nra on issues like background checks. so what i guess ben is talking about is after a bunch of little children were killed, the president decided it would be a
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good idea if criminals and terrorists and the mentally ill didn't have the same right to buy a gun as the three of us. and you know what? i think the president was right about that. >> not true. the nra came out and even talked about having mental illness background checks and having help for those with mental illnesses. >> they made a show of it. they didn't want to close the gun show or internet sales. you know that. >> can you explain to me what the gun show loophole is? explain to me what the gun show loophole is. >> you can go and buy from a private purchaser. >> that's just not accurate. what state are you -- what state are you talking about? >> every state in the country -- [ overlapping voices ] >> ben, if you're going to ask him a question, you have to give him the time to answer. >> he doesn't want to hear the answer, don, because the truth is that the nra is not really an organization that's about its membership or even about rights. the nra is an organization that is about profits. as somebody who has run for
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office, i can tell you that when you get your candidate questionnaire from the nra what it actually is asking about mostly is not the rights of citizens. what it's asking about is the rights of gun companies to sell guns. it is about -- >> that's just not accurate. >> it will do that even if it means selling guns -- >> let ben respond. go ahead, ben. >> have you ever been to an nra meeting of any type at any point in your entire life? >> no. >> okay. so i have. i've probably been to about 75 of them. let me finish my point, then. i've probably been to about 75 of them. my dad is in law enforcement. i grew up around guns, used a gun to save my life against two people that shot at me. i know a little bit about guns. when you say that the nra -- >> i was in the united states army. i'll stipulate we both know about guns. >> don't act as if somehow you know what the nra does when you've never been to one single meeting. >> i've also never -- >> let me at least finish. would actually say that they do
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represent them well. if they didn't, they wouldn't have millions of members. when you say they only represent their own pocketbooks, which is just not accurate, or they only represent the gun lobbyists, which is also just not accurate, they represent and their membership is people just like me, average americans that actually have a gun and want to protect their right to own it. >> go ahead, jason. >> yeah. >> quickly, please. >> the reason that they're against criminal background checks, the reason they're against really reasonable reforms -- >> they're not. >> and the reason so many of their members are now disagreeing with them on it is because people have had experiences of talking to folks like i have. i spent time yesterday with sandy hook survivors. people understand that you shouldn't have the same right to buy a gun if you've got a criminal record or if you're a terrorist. that's what this country overwhelming majority of americans including nra members believe. >> thank you all. >> with all respect -- >> i've got to go, ben. i'm out of time. i'm sorry. when we come back, late night tv getting the last laugh on the trump administration night after night.
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late night comedians have been having a field day with president trump's first 100 days. who better to comment on this than kamau bell, host of cnn's ""united shades of america."" >> that's right. >> do not get me in trouble this time, all right? >> i'm here for you, don. i'm here for you. >> i can't wait to talk to you about the new season of your show, but let's talk a little politics first. the first 100 days of this presidency have been a real boon for late-night comedians. let's listen and then we'll chat. >> this saturday will be president trump's 100th day in office. it's 100 days in trump time. for us it's 15 years. >> the first 100 days are traditionally a time to reflect on accomplishments of a president, and trump hasn't got a lot of those. he still hasn't filled his
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cabinet. he didn't repeal obamacare. there are still muslims. >> pro, he's promised to take on china. con, he hasn't learned how to pronounce it. >> chiina. >> is this like the new golden age of comedy? is this president comedy gold? >> if you're not funny now, you're not going to be funny. this is the time to be funny. it wasn't that long ago people were like, is prefer noah going to be able to take over the daily show. what's jimmy fallon going to do after he mused up trump's hair? it's not really great for me because every comedian is gunning forgu gunning for my job now. >> didn't colbert -- >> it brought him back to himself. he was trying to be just a talk show host, and the world needed him to be stephen colbert. >> needed him to be funny. but, you know, it's not just
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late night. i don't know if you saw the simpsons, who actually had a show 16 years ago that predicted president trump. this is their take on the first 100 days, though. >> 100 days in office, so many accomplishments, lowered my golf handicap. my twitter following increased by 700. and finally we can shoot hibernating bears. my boys will love that. >> sir, here's a new bill that you must read immediately. it lowers taxes for only republicans. >> can't fox news read it, and i'll watch what they say? >> no. you have to read it. >> what do you think? >> the simpsons has been on long enough, they're going to predict everything. it's just random chance. it's going to be on forever. the simpsons, mwah. always a big fan. >> you've got to be -- listen, you have to have a thick skin when you're the president. it's probably better if he laughs at it, but i'm not sure he is. >> there's not evidence of that happening, don.
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>> let's talk about completely different. it's not funny, but you bring whatever sort of comedic timing and comedic genius to come up with the season premiere of "united shades of america" by speaking with white nationalist richard spencer. play it. >> i want to expand white privilege. we live in a world where every spring, google and facebook and apple release these diversity numbers, and they'll be like, it's amazing, guys. we hired less white men this year. we think that it's inherently wonderful for white people to have less power. oh, that's great. oh, i'm glad. i hope the new james bond is going to be a black guy. that would be great for the world. >> is that a real big deal, though, if james bond is a black guy? is that really like -- do you care? >> for me, yeah, that might be a -- >> that's too much? >> it's too much. >> did you just want to go, you know that think where we go,
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please? >> i mean i was really surprised. he was talking about all these grand plans of white eth know state and bringing the country back to white people and he got hung up over black james bond. if you're going to get distracted by black james bond, i don't think white eth no state stands a chance. those ideas that he has are in the white house house two doors down from donald trump and steve bannon. the show is about showing that, but also we show other immigrants and refugees to show the story of inspiring people who are being americans the right way. >> i had a friend -- emphasis on the word had -- who got hung up on james bond is white. first of all, james bond is a fictional character. it's kinds of like that, you know, guy in a red suit? >> yeah, it's pretend time. yeah, i kept saying black james bond, and richard spencer said throw him off until -- it put him in quite a lather. >> what do you want people to know about this season? >> this season, in you liked season one, this season is really a step up.
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i think it's smarter. i think it's funnier. season one was the mix tape. this is the album. >> oh, okay. >> yeah, that's right. >> your album drops. >> the album drops sunday night on cnn. >> sunday night at 10:00. thank you, sir. by the way. the new season of "united shades of america" drops saturday -- excuse me -- sunday. sunday at 10:00 p.m. right here on cnn. and just before that, make sure you catch the new season of "parts unknown" at 9:00 p.m. on sunday. anthony bourdain travels to the south pole. both of them this sunday starting at 9:00 and then kamau bell at 10:00. when we come back, more on the president's first 100 days in office. his businessman style, is it working in washington? and we continue to look back at his most memorable moments so far. like this amazing image. the president having fun in the driver's seat of a big rig right after meeting with members of the american trucking association. that was day 63 by the way.
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