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jeannie moos, cnn, new york. top of the hour. year in the cnn newsroom. thank you for being with me. we begin with a campaign promise that continues to elude the president and republican lawmakers. repeal and replace obama care. president trump was pressed again on what happens to people with pre-existing conditions. and the current draft of the bill, here's what he said during a weekend interview with cbs. >> this bill is much different than it was a little while ago. okay? this bill has evolved. and we didn't have a failure on the bill. it was reported like a failure. the one thing i swront done is a time line. that's why i didn't put a time line. but we have now pre-existing cnditions in the big. we have -- we set up a pool for the pre-existing conditions so that the premium kbz allowed to fall.
we're taking across all of the borders or the lines so that insurance companies can compete nationwide. >> it's in the second phase. it's called phase one, phase two. and that's in second phase. which will get approved. which will quickly get approved. >> white house correspondent is with us now. the president talking about a deal cut between moderate and conservative republicans in the house and i understand vice president pence also spoke about this this weekend. he gave details on how these high risk pools that are supposed to cover people with pre-existing conditions but still give states a lot of leeway might actually work. >> hi. that's right. this is why this is important. the whoel whole issue of covering people with pre-existing conditions has been a key sticking point in the on going negotiations among house republicans. you have a lot of moderate republicans who are very concerned about making sure that folks who have pre-existing conditions can continue to get coverage and coverage that is affordable.
in this latest gop proposal to repeal and replace obama care, insurers are troird cover people with pre-existing conditions. but they can charge them more than other folks on the plan if they let their coverage lapse at any point. so there is some still details to be worked out about this. but as you mentioned, vice president mike pence speaking on meet the press. he gave a little more detail about how this could work this proposal to cover people with pre-existing conditions. watch. >> we're basically borrowing an idea from the state of maine that has seen a significant drop in premiums for people on their health insurance because you take people that have pre-existing and costly conditions and put them into a high risk pool and you subsidize that so that it is affordable to those individuals. and so you're guaranteeing coverage for pre-existing conditions and the flexibility that you're referring to in this latest mcarthur amendment states can only apply for that waiver and flexibility if they have a
federal or state high risk pool that guarantees that people will be able to have coverage and it will be affordable. >> so there you heard the vice president saying these pools will guarantee people have affordable coverage. but some of the questions that folks who are still on the fence and also outside groups that are trying to influence members of congress when it comes to this legislation, onest big questions is whether they will be enough subsidies to truly make sure that coverage is affordable for the folks in these high risk pools. so that's a sticking point. it's not clear at this point or it certainly wasn't clear in the end of last week that they were going to be enough republican votes to get this through even with the new proposal. >> and in in a that clip we just played earlier with the president, he's seemed much more interested in pushing for a vote than speaker ryan. he says we're going do this quickly. are they on the same page? is there a time line in place for the white house or the house? >> well, the white house would like to see a vote happen soon. but as we heard from house speaker paul ryan, they are not going to bring this bill to the floor until they're certain that
the bill has the support to pass. and so that is the big question mark this week. can they get more support from their fellow republicans? how soon can they get it? will there be a vote this week? you heard the president say different things. he wants to see a vote soon. then he said there is no rush. they do want a win on. this but it's still very much a question mark whether they're going to be able to get that win soon or at all. and if it does pass the house, you still have the senate for the bill to get through. en that is a much tougher road. >> all right. thank you. let's bring in two of our political commentators now former communications director for senator ted cruz al stewart and former spokesman for california congressman darrell isa, kirk bordella. the republicans are still trying to work out some kind of health care bill that can clear congress. but i want you to listen to the president and that face the nation interview. he talks about leaving some of the details to the state. >> because if you hurt your
knee, honestly, i'd rather have the federal government focused on north korea, focused on other things than your knee. okay? or than your back. as important as your back s i would much rather see the federal government focused on other things. bigger things. now the state is going to be in a much better position to take care. because it's smaller. >> is congress trying to visit both ways or the president trying to visit both ways? get credit for repealing obama care while leaving the tough decisions to the states? >> i think that the key is they're working hard to follow-through on their campaign promises. what they learned as part of that sputing some of the decision making power in the hands of state. giving them the opportunity to opt out a certain aspects of any bill that son the table. and that is key. the fact that we've had the moderate membersst house of the house come together along with members of the more conservative
members of the house freedom caucus and come through with an agreement is a good sign. and what they're doing is they're taking their time. what we heard from president trump earlier today was that -- they're not going to put a time line on it. they're going to take their time and make sure they get it right. they vow to lower premiums and increase access to health care. that's what they're aiming for here. >> you just sthaed you feel more confident about where they're going. but the issue of pre-existing conditions still is a big question mark for a lot of people including republicans in the house, alice. are you confident based on what we heard from the president and the vice president today that pre-existing conditions are indeed going to be covered adequately? a lot of outside groups aren't so confident about that like the aarp, like the american medical association. how can you be so confident? >> well, that's a great question, anna. that is something that has
always been part of the conversations, making sure that that is part of any repeal and replace bill. that along with children up to age 26 being covered by their parents' plan. these are part of the promise that's have been made from day one. from many of the members of congress and that's something that they know they're not so concerned about how the president will respond to them. what they are concerned with is how their constituents back home are going to respond. and they intend with everything to keep those promises. the key is as athena said, once it gets to the senate, it's a whole new ball game. >> and how are those constituents back home going to respond? we know the original gop plan had just 17% approval. so kurt, does congress have the political will to push through a bill that may not be popular with most americans? >> well, i it this challenge here, is you know, they always say the devil is in the details. this is going to be happening so quick that we're not going to have a lot of the facts until this bill is potentially passed and signed into law. what the real impacts will be to the american people.
we saw during the first it rags of repeal and replace the cbo put out some very politically damaging figures about what their plan would do for health care in america and who would be left behind, what the cost would be to the deficit. these are figures that we're not going to have this time around. they really, i think this has to happen this week. congress is set to go in recess thursday for another week. and one of the key points here is under the authority they're using to do this right now it is called reconciliation. that authority could elapse if they put a new buget in place which they're trying to do to avoid a shutdown. then they need 60 votes. so they're there really running out of time to get this done both in the house and ultimately for the senate. you know, i think that ultimately, you know, in the long run this could really be suicide for a lot of people that vote for. th this. >> let's switch gears and let's listen to the president. >> well, it's a -- it's a tough job. but i've had a lot of tough
jobs. i've had things that were tougher. i'll let you know that better at the end of eight years, perhaps eight years. hopefully eight years. but i'll let you know later on. >> alice, you're reaction to hearing the president say he's had tougher jobs than running the country? >> i would like to hear what that is. look, i look at that and i applaud his honesty. and it is a difficult job. he is learnig with many different issues that come in front of him that governing is much more difficult than campaigning. and what we're seeing is his course corrections on some of the issues which i think is a good thing rather than standing firm on some of the issues. but, sure, the presidency is a hard job. it is also the greatest job you could possibly have. and i applaud his honesty on. that. >> your thoughts? >> i think it's disturbing that this is the hardest job in the world. running this country. and for someone to try to run
for that ultimately win it and not have a full grass be or understanding about the complexities involved of making this country run, someone who thinks that it's okay to go on vacation to mar-a-lago every other week and doesn't want to ever leave the white house, doesn't want to leave the united states to build diplomatic relations. roger stone said he would rather sit on his couch eating mcdonald's all day. he is lazy. that is difficult for someone in this job not to have a full gravity of the job. >> he has not made any overseas trips. he has had visits from a number of other foreign leaders who have come to the white house. he has been on the phone with them regularly including this week. thank you both for being on tonight. >> thank you. >> during the president's interswru cbs this weekend, the president also discussed the growing tensions between the u.s. and north korea. and the interview came just
hours after pyongyang launched a new nuclear -- excuse me, a missile test, ballistic missile that president trump down played as a small launch. he described north korea's leader as a pretty smart cookie. >> people are saying he is sane? i have no idea. i can tell you this. a lot of people don't like when i say it, but he was a young man of 26 or 27 when he took over from his father. when his father died. he's dealing with obviously very tough people in particular the generals and others. and at a very young age, he was able to assume power. a lot of people i'm sure tried to take that pow area way. wlit was his uncle or anybody else. and he was able to do it. so obviously he's a pretty smart cookie. but we have a situation that we just cannot let -- we cannot let what's been going on for a long period of years continue. >> cnn's will rippley joins us from pyongyang now north core eechlt during that interview,
the president let the door open for military action against north korea. and your reaction there? >> he did. yeah. he certainly has been ambiguous about the possibility of what the u.s. response could be. we know though based on the statements of secretary of state rex tillerson that the military option is really the option of last resort for the united states. and president trump in the interviews acknowledged just how tremendously damaging it could be in the stabilizing on the korean peninsula and putting a lot of people in u.s. allied south korea in harm's way if a conflict twor break out. it seems like the u.s. strategy right now despite this rhetoric is to push the international community and the secretary tillerson talks about this at the u.n. security council sl on friday to push the international community to put both diplomatic pressure by isolating north korea further and also economic pressure by further sanctions and leaning heavily on china to do. that further cutting off trade with this country. perhaps restricting the flow of oil through major pipeline if
north korea is the stream leader twor go forward with that sixth nuclear test which even though it was thought for many weeks to be em ninimminent has not yet happened. we don't know if there were negotiations happening. we know that officials on the ground do express a desire to engage with the united states. but what they're not willing to do is to even consider giving up the nuclear program which in the past is really been a nonstarter for any kind of discussions. >> exactly. will rippley reporting in north korea. straight ahead tonight, he is one of the world's most infamous leaders. and in and out president of the philippines has been invited to washington. next, why the white house is deefg the controversial leaders' visit. that is coming up live in the cnn newsroom. stay with me, mr. parker. when a critical patient is far from the hospital, the hospital must come to the patient. stay with me, mr. parker. the at&t network is helping first responders connect with medical teams in near real time... stay with me, mr. parker.
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president trump called the north korean leader a smart cookie. that was one of the sound bites that we played. he was noting that kim assumed the throne, so to speak, at a young age and has had to deal with some very tough people. what do you make of the comments? >> he tends to sort of, you know praise tough leaders. he is a brutal leader. he killed his relatives, there sun reported attempts some of people being killed by a pack of dogs. so it's unusual. but i wouldn't say it's new for president trump. he's praised authoritarian leaders before. >> is there any impact of that though? >> kit be confusing buchlt this very been very focused on north korea. they made a lot of signals militarily that they might use force there. so, you know, it's one remark. the administration has a whole is consistent about north korea needs to stop the missile tests and the nuclear tests. >> the swhous also getting criticism for a phone call the
president had with the president of the philippines. and he invited him to the white house. now is coming under fire or at least a little bit of criticism coming because of his record on human rights. and the fact that a lot of people in his country have died as he's been attacking this war on drugs. but he essentially killed extra judicial killings of people who are just suspected of drug crimes in his country. why do you think the president is being warm with this leader? >> it's again this sort of pattern of people he sees as strong leaders, putin he praises him during the campaign. he sort of backed off on. that he praised president xi of china who will hopefully help in north korea but is also a very strong leader, strong man at home. the danger here is this core question. they accuse his police forces have killed up to 2,000 people. some suspected drug dealers. some people just using drugs. and these are just executions
being carried out by police. that's xra extraordinary. >> they say it's higher than. that we know the white house chief of staff said today that this visit is necessary because really it's about north korea. north korea should take precedence over human rights issues. >> so the key player in southeast asia is the country of myanmar. that's where north korea is getting their technology and a lot of aid. so that is a stretch. there it's this broader problem s this president going to defend american values? and that's democracy. that's the rule of law. that's a trial for people. instead of being executed on the street because they've been using drugs. but president trump signaled he is going to back strong men. he invited the egyptian president to the white house. and that's the idea is that will help in the war on terror. past presidents feel it should be a mix. you have to use some military force, some lethal force. but slus to back these ideals so average people in the
philippines feel they have a government that works for them, that doesn't just, you know, execute people. and the same thing in egypt. you need a government that, you know, has courts and has the rule of law. it's not just about pure raw power crushing an opposition and egypt in the philippines. >> past administrations have also had interactions and worked on diplomacy with countries and leaders that are dictators s this different? is he being unfairly criticized do you think? >> his tone is different. i mean george w. bush sort of had the -- i'm talking about, you know, past republican presidents. there say long history in the u.s. definitely working with dictators during the cold war. it's just that president sort of the terms he uses, we quietly support dictators when we felt it helped us strategicly. the difference is this is more open praise. >> when we talk about north korea that, is one in which there is an exception here. the president has not necessarily said he would reach out and negotiate. he's not invited kim jong-un to
the white house, for example. should he? is there any risk in that diplomacy? >> i don't think there is. there is a difference between inviting him to the white house -- >> i don't mean should he invite him to the white house. should very a dialogue? >> yes. secretary of state tillerson talked about direct talks. north korea is an issue. i agree with the estimate chose to have a missile possibly with a nuclear warhead that can reach the united states at the very least they could kill thousands, tens of thousands of civilians in seoul just with the traditional artillery. something has to be done to address american policy in north korea. it is not working. george w. bush failed, barack obama failed. there should be a new approach. >> thank you. >> still haeshgsd it was a presidential roasting at last night's white house correspondents' dinner. here's a clip. >> who is tweeting at 3:00 a.m. sober?
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the annual white house correspondent's dinner took place in the nation's capital last night without the usual guest of honor. donald trump decided to miss this event and instead attend aid rally in pennsylvania. the comedian pulled no punches in trump's absence. >> we got to address the elephant that's not in the room. the leader of our country is not here. and that's because he lives in moscow. it is a very long flight. it would be hard for him to make it. vlad can't just make it on a saturday much it's a saturday.
as for the other guy, i think he's in pennsylvania because kent take' joke. we're here to talk about the truth. it is 2017 and we're living in the golden age of lying. now is the time to be a liar and donald trump is liar in chief. and remember, you guys are public public enemy number one. you're his biggest enemy. journalists, isis, normal length ties. and somehow you're the bad guys. >> comedian, actor and economist ben stein joins us. you previously defended trump's decision to skip this dinner. do you feel this justified taking that position after watching this show? >> i thought what mr. manage said was sickening. i felt like vomiting and i
couldn't watch it very long. >> why? >> i think it's stunning to belittle and attack and mock the president at such a base and villianous level and describe him as a soviet agent and liar in chief. liar in chief especially to the media. the media is a joke in this situation. first of all, they're the ones who built him up. without the media, he would still be back running casino sometimes where. he has played the media fantastically unbelievably well. the media is not his enemy. he has cleverly made the media his main ally and the media is laughing as if they think they're somebody great and holy and neutral and above it all. they're not holy and above it all. they are a sharp instrument of the left in this country. and trump has managed to turn his head and make them the bad guys throughout in pennsylvania and wisconsin and places he was never expected to win. they're laughing. they should be laughing at themselves. >> i think the media did laugh at ourselves and he, of course, the comedian also took a lot of
jabs at the media through all. this but as you point out, i mean the president has had a contentious relationship with the media. but other presidents have had similar challenges in dealing with the media. our job as journalists is to hold their feet to the fire, to hold government elected officials accountable. and, of course, presidents and people in power don't always like. that. >> if i may say this. i was a speechwriter for president nixon. i've always been a fan of president nixon. even nixon was not held up to the same level of ridicule and mockery and vicious attack that trump s i'm not a big fan of trump. i was writing in barons i suspect, well at least 30 years ago that, this guy possibly should be held up for criminal charges of fraud and securities fraud. so i am not a huge fan of his. but the level after tack upon him by the media has been so vicious. i've never seen anything like it. and every day us aup into has got more stories attacking him and attacking him. they just don't give the guy a
break. by the way, i think he's totally right about the fake news. so much of what is attacked about him is fake news. >> in what way? >> give you an example. the so-called anti-muslim ban in his first immigration proposal that, wasn't anti-muslim ban. that was a ban on people -- i see there are 60 or 90-day ban, maybe a few more than that, from people from seven countries out of 100 and some countries that are muslim in the world. that is not anti-muslim. that is the press made it out as if he is a leader of the ku klux klan. he is no such thing. he is trying to defend america and his ban was a very short brief pause to expedite vetting. >> the president suggested a muslim ban. those words on the campaign trail. i know at cnn we have been calling this a travel ban. and there have been political commentators who at times have referred to it as a muslim ban. i don't think can you group mainstream media with political commentators in the same bunch.
i don't think that's fair. now ben stein, i do want to ask you -- >> i think it is very fair with all due respect. the media made itself into a permanent attack machine against mr. trump. look, don't get me wrong, i am endlessly complaining about trump's mistakes. i think the tax plan is a disaster. but the level of invicktive against imis something i've never seen before. as i say, i worked for nixon. i know political attacks. >> let's talk about the tax plan. you told me you wanted to see him raise taxes on the wealthy. the details of the plan that were unveiled earlier this week show the wealthy stand to benefit under this proposal. >> i think it's a mistake. i think the tax splan a mistake -- splanplan is a mistake on e level. there should be no tax on corporate earnings.
we don't really need it anymore with artificial intelligence quechlt quickly track the incomes of people on the stock and tax them on it. and this latest deal of eliminating the deduction for state and local taxes is just crazy because i think it was mr. cohen from the white house said well this going to eliminate bloating at the local level. policemen salaries are bloated? teacher salaries are bloated? that just out of touch with reality. >> all right. ben stein, we'll leave it. there thanks for coming on. >> thank you so much. >> coming up, it's just day 101 for president trump. but has the race for 2020 already started? one possible con tender who knows his way aren't white house is in a key state in presidential politics. next, what joe biden told a crowd in new hampshire. you're live in the cnn newsroom. ♪
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more buzz tonight surrounding one of most popular figures in the democratic party, former vice president joe biden is making another appearance on the national stage speaking tonight at the famous mcintyre dinner in new hampshire. democrats are buzzing now about whether biden might just have one more race left in him. cnn national politics reporter is joining me now from manchester, new hampshire. everyone wants to know if former vice president joe biden is now laying the groundwork for possible white house run. what did he say? >> well, an yashgs i know we all feel like 2016 just came to an end. but there is a lot of talk about 2020 here in new hampshire tonight because former vice president joe biden just wrapped up a speech just behind me. and he did just address head on what everyone in the room is talking about. does he have another presidential race left in him? let's listen to what he said first. >> so when i got asked by ray to
come up here, there wasn't a doubt in my mind, even though i know what caused a lot of speculation, guys, i'm not running, okay? >> i know it caused a lot of speculation. no, look. thank you for the support. and i especially want to thank you for the support you gave me and aboutbarack obama over the eight years and thank you for supporting hillary. thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you. >> i don't know if can you hear anna, but when biden said, guys, i'm not running with a smile on his face, the audience around me, you could tell that they were booing and trying to show him that they wanted him to at least take this seriously and let him know that they're at least supporters here in new
hampshire who would like to see him run again. of course, you know that president joe biden decided not to run ultimately in 2016 because of his son's death, beau biden. but that was a personal tragedy. i can also tell that you speaking to biden's advisors the last couple of days, they say that no matter what he says publicly about that he is certainly not anywhere near making a firm decision on 2020. i can tell you the people in this room probably won't take him at his word when he says he's not going to run until he makes a definitive statement that he is not going to run for president in three years. >> all right. m.j. lee, we'll be watching. thank you. we're back in a moment.
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security aide in the white house expected to leave his job. several administration officials confirm this to cnn and another senior administration official says it's possible he might take another job in the administration. and gorka was generating too much controversy for the white house. cnn executive editor mark preston is joining us now. mark, why was this one aide trouble for the white house? >> well, at this point, in the administration when we saw the turn overin the national security adviser when we saw michael flynn leave that post and we saw general h.r. mcmaster take it over, we saw a move more towards a traditional advancement in global view on how the united states was going to prosecute its national security. he is somebody who comes from breitbart. he is anal lite of steve bannon. he is somebody that talked a lot about radical islamic terrorism. he was also seen oftentimes on tv on the radio deafing policies
such as the muslim ban and what have. however, he really was just generating too much controversy. there was a lot of heat on him for some past issues or some work that he had done in the past. so it looks like he is moving out as you said he really was generating too much controversy. at least that's what an administration official is telling our jim acosta. this comes at a time when we've seen as i said general flynn leave as an national security adviser. very likely to see mcfar land as well who is a deputy national security adviser, she going to leave and now sebastian gorka is leaving, too. seeing a settling of the trump administration when it comes to national security. >> he was a foreman member of brightbart. what does this mean for the white house and all those intrigue questions we had in the recent days especially, you know, when steve bannon? >> yeah, no doubt. there has been a lot of talk now about nationalism versus
globalism in the white house nationalism being kind of what president trump ran on as a candidate where you talk about making america great again, america first. and in many ways, you know, closing down lines of communication to other countries and working with them and what you have. very much a steve bannon world view. however, jared kushner and ivanka trump have a very much different view about that. and they seem to be winning the battle right now about how the united states should be viewing its foreign policy as viewers were calling and know jared kushner, for example, is being tasked with trying to bring peace to the middle east. now he's only in his 30s and what you have. but he certainly has a different view about how to go about doing that than the steve bannon approach. >> all right. mark preston, thank you. we're back in just a moment. stay with us.
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sides of the aisle that have led to conversations about race in america. on tonight's united states shades of america, we tackle this subject with white nationalist richard spencer. >> so i think white people do need to talk about their whiteness more. and we're here doing it. >> we're here to talk about white privilege. we want to bring it back. make white privilege great again. >> so you're a fan of white privilege? >> oh, yeah. >> what do you love about white privilege? >> it looks great. the people are good-looking and nice suits, great literature. like, yeah, i just want to bathe in white privilege. it is the greatest most awesome thing. >> it is working out for you. >> yeah. i want to expand white privilege. we live in a world where every spring google and facebook and apple release these diversity numbers. guys, we hired less white men this year. we think it's inherently wonderful for white people to
have less power. that's great. i'm glad. i hope the new james bond is going to be a black guy. that would be great for the world. >> is that a real big deal, though, if james bond is a black guy? do you care? >> for me, yeah, that might be a -- yeah. that's too much. >> really? >> i'm joined now by the host of "united shades of america." a lot of people ask why live richard spencer a platform? >> it'sthese people don't talk the media. he actually said that when i talked to him. >> did you want to hear what he had to say and try to understand where he was coming from? >> i wanted to hear the whole platform. he talked about turning america into a white ethno-state. i want to hear the whole
platform because to me more knowledge is less knowledge. it's ridiculous. i understand people's fear, but that fear means you should probably look into this. >> i also heard you laugh at what he said. were you laughing because you were just uncomfortable. >> people think laughter is agreement. there is many different types of laughter. >> i laugh when i'm nervous. >> bathing in white privilege is shocking. i laugh when i'm baffles. my wife doesn't like when i laugh at things in shock. i hear you, and it is tickling me inside. it doesn't mean i agree with it. >> did you learn anything from him that was eye opening? >> really the gender politics was way more surprising to me than the race politics. i was expecting the race politics but he says things like women should be in the home. and you're losing 50% of the
population. to me, the race i was expecting. the gender stuff i wasn't expecting. >> i want to talk about the white house correspondents dinner. as a fellow comedian, how do you think minhaj did? >> he was great. we're friends. >> we talked to three different people tonight that said he's a friend of mine. >> i've known him since he started doing economy. he was a guy i saw began. i saw where he came from and i think he's up there as one of the all-time greats of that convention. >> you wouldn't want that gig? >> no. can i say that right now? don't offer me that gig. thank you. >> it seems as though those who are trump supporters really did not like what they saw last night at the white house correspondents dinner. >> which is weird. they didn't watch it. he made fun of the media. >> he critiques both sides. that's true.
i wonder because you bring out -- your show is meant to highlight some of the divisions we have in america and allow people to understand different sides. do you worry or are you concerned that last night could have created more division? >> i think you have to put that responsibility -- he's a comedian. he's not a journalist. s a a reporter, he is reporting what he sees through jokes. if we make it the job of comedians to hold to the facts and let reporters do whatever they want to, ala fake news, then we've done a bad job in this country. >> how would you define the role? >> the job of comedians is to get laughs. i mean, without laughs you're not a comedian. so if he's getting laughs then he's doing bhis job as a comedian. >> should the president use humor to bring this country together? >> ironically much of his base
thinks he's hilarious. but he could -- if you wanted to unit the country, obama often united the country through being charming and through laughter. trump is aiming his jokes at his audience and targeting people who aren't. >> do you think he's funny. >> i have laughed at things donald trump has said. laughter does not mean agreement. >> but do you think he's funny? >> i'm not agreeing with the question. do i think trump is funny? everybody can be funny. that doesn't mean you are a saint. and if you are not funny, it doesn't mean you are not a saint. i am not going to sit here and joke that i want to -- i would follow him in a comedy club, so he's not that funny. >> thank you so much. we look forward to seeing your first episode and the season premier tonight at 10:00 p.m. right here on cnn. >> you are in the cnn news room.
i'm in new york. glad to have you with me. we began with the republican health care fight. it's currently making its way through the house. here he is this morning talking about a deal between conservatives and moderate republicans that could help the legislati legislation's chances of getting through congress. >> there will be such competition. right now there is no competition. there will be such competition by insurance companies so that they can get health care and the people taken care of in health care t. only thing we are going to have is groups. what's going to happen is the competition is going to drive down the premiums. in my opinion, much, much more than people understand. >> so what you have just described is a bill that you have previously had said you're worried wouldn't help your people and here's why i ask. >> there were things in the other bill, the first version, which were not as good. but when i watch some of the news