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struggled to fill positions across the government and when it comes to this particular post, this is the same nominee to withdraw his name. the first was a billionaire. mark green withdrew after coming under fire for controversial statements he's made in the past on islam, on evolution, on lbgt issues. at one point he said being transgender is a disease. now, green is blaming the liberal left for distorting his words. it isn't just liberals expressing concerns, lindsey graham took issue with what he had to say, a clear setback within it comes to filling this post, anderson. >> this administration might cut the white house drug policy office. what is the latest you are hearing on that? >> reporter: this is really interesting. we're talking about a nearly 94%
proposed cut to that office the office of national drug control policy, leaving the bucket, cutting the budget from nearly $400 million to just over $20 million. this is coming at a time when the center for disease control says opioid overdoses have reached epidemic levels and of course tackling the opioid crisis the president promised to do over an over again on the campaign trail. so this is leaving some folks scratching their heads. programs the writing was on the wall about this. this a pleasure group's website has been blank since inauguration day. so that may have been a signal. i should also mention, anderson, this is coming at a time when republicans on capitol hill are working on legislation for new health care repeal bill that would allow states to decide what benefits insurers have to cover. that's very different from obamacare rules they require insurers to cover so-called essential benefits like mental health and substance abuse. so this is leaving a lot of people upset right now.
>> according to "new york times," they called the proposed cuts heart breaking t.cdc says opioid overdoses have reached epidemic levels. it is something the president promised he would address. >> never before has there been a drug epidemic like we have in our country. the country is being poisoned, they're poisoning our youth. we are going to work with people. we are going to set up programs. we are going to try everything we can to get them unaddicted. we are going to work very hard with medical professionals to take care of those people that are so badly addicted. we are going to happy telp the that are so badly addicted. >> we will help those people so seriously addicted. we will get them assistance. we'll make sure that they have the top treatment and get better. we got to get them better. got a lot of people strung out on bad stuff. >> joining our maggie haberman,
vaseen miller, the president spoke very eloquently and passionately during the campaign when he was in new hampshire. clearly, he was affected by people he had talked to. how do you square those with this proposal by cutting the budget by 94%? >> well, anderson, you are exactly right. this is something the president was very passionate about on the campaign trail. certainly his family and many families have been impacted by i. i'm sure every person can talk to an immediate or close family member that has gone through a struggle with opioid addiction. my understanding in talking to folks in the administration is the program is going to be reformed and this administration is going to pay just as much attention, spend just as much time on opioid restriction as before. there are a couple startling statistics i would put in front of you just in the previous administration from 2009 to 2015. the amount of opioid overdoses went from 20,000 to 35,000 a
year and just with heroin alone, it went from about 3,000 a year to 13,000 overdose deaths every year. >> this coordinates a lot of state responses and stuff to these overdoses, to drugs? >> well, look, clearly, what we are doing right now isn't working. you see the way these numbers are skyrocketing. this is not nancy reagan with the war on drugs in the 1980s we are not fighting as well as a nation. we need to. i think it's good. administration will restructure this and come out with new solutions and approaches to dealing with this. >> maggie, does this square with what the president said during the campaign? >> if this is what it is and this is the only way we're handling it does not. i'm not sure how it squares with the information that jared kushner is headed. the opioid crisis is to be under his per view. i have no idea whether they are adjusting the money line, on the face of it, if that is all it
is, that raises an enormous amount of questions. >> he's got china policy, middle east, the opioid epidemic. >> during the transition, he often said to tech executives that everything runs through me, that apparently is quite literal right now. i don't know what this means in terms of the budget. the president talked about it frequently on the campaign trail. it's a much harder issue to actually solve with practice than the u.s. to talk about and jason said something about the war on drugs of the 1980s the administration is actually approaching other drug issues in sort of a war on drug approach. there is a very sort of tough on crime approach that the tomorrow has taken, that the administration have taken so i'm not sure how this all squares. >> if it was a trial balloon, and lesser cuts 20 won't seem so chronian? >> this president said he was going to make massive cuts, domestic cuts and focus more so on the military.
he also said he wanted to build a wall to in part stop the drug problem. i don't know if he's trying to offset this wall to counter drugs, but what it does is, is it tells his base that he's not keeping a promise. he spoke to a large part of white america, white america, that's having this drug problem. heroin, opioid addiction, he said in just what you played those thoughts, he said that he's going to deal with it and now his campaign promise seems like it's teetering on possibly not being fulfilled, but at the same time this is very draconian, i mean to make a 94% cut, that is huge. >> obviously, the president has talked about the wall as being something is that would prevent drugs from being brought across. obviously, black tar heroin is an issue being smuggled in, in a variety of ways. but it's really prescription pills, which many people start
out with, they end up on heroin because it's cheaper and actually easier to get. >> correct. when you look at new hampshire, in vermont, when you look in these parts of america where you are dealing with these opioid crisis, no, it's not heroin, which is the leadoff, which is the gateway, many times you see people overdosing or using these prescription drugs. so when you look at what's happened over the last two days. when you look at the fact the house gop, coor's lite, budweiser repealed and replaced obamacare in name only. yes, it did take away individuals going through substance abuse. you look at today and you see they fraction the office or destroy the officer where you can combat this opioid abuse. you have to say his promise. >> to jason's point, he says, it's not working. it's worse tan before. >> let me talk about drapts and republicans for one moment. we haven't gotten the issue of drug in our country right in either party. i mean, i think that april and i sit heard and we smurk a little
bit the drugs are ravageing white america, people are all of a sudden concerned. when we had a crack epidemic, to my family, to jason's point, he said members of your family, i practice i to god and i'm thankful that none of my family has had to deal with this opioid crisis, but my family has had to deal with a crack epidemic. not only that, we dealt with the punishments from the bush and clinton years which put many african-american males in jail. what we see, what we have been has not been work, the draconian methods of donald trump, we seen that before. i can tell you and everyone else watching, that deny work either. >> i want to piggy back off something he said, when you deal with the issue that the black community has been dealing with for a very long time. i'm going back to the clinton years, crack cocaine versus powder cocaine, jeff sessions stopped the one-to-one ratio. it's now 18:1.
jeff sessions stopped from being 19:1. >> this is another thing they bringing in governor chris christie to organize, my understanding is there will not be a 95% cut to the overall fight against drugs or the effort to try to stop opioid addiction. it's just they're restructuring, reformatting this to bring new solutions to the table. i think that's good. you look at the skyrocketing numbers, clearly, what's been going on over the past 18 years, 16 years, has not been working. >> we obviously found this closely, thanks very much, everyone. the health care bill moves to the senate. voters are facing anger back in their district. watch what happened in idaho over a republican congressman raul labridor. >> you are saying people are dying. you are making -- >> no one tonight, that line is so indefensible.
nobody dies because they don't have access to health care. >> congressman labridor says nobody dies because they don't have access to health care. you we heard the reaction in the room. there could be obviously significant changes. one of the sticking points will be pre-existing conditions, protection for people with pre existing conditions is one of the most popular elements. president trump promised the republican version will be every bit as good, the house version leaves legal room for state insurers. >> first of all, a lot of people have pre existing conditions. does this new bill affect all of them? >> you know anderson it doesn't. if you are over 65, on medicare, supplemental medicare, then it doesn't affect you. so this is absolutely for everyone. or if you get your insurance through an employer, then the pre existing part conditions parts of this don't affect you. but if you are on what's called the individual market, if you are buying insurance on your
own, then these conditions about pre-existing conditions, they will affect you. >> so what would it have on people in that group for pre existing conditions? >> well, it could have no effect. because insurance companies do have to sell you policies. that's something that started under obamacare and they can't upcharge you. they can't charge you more because you have is this pre-existing condition. but anderson, there is a but here and it is a big but. if you don't pay your premiums and you have a 63-day lapse in insurance, so a 63 days you go without insurance, then the system says, aha, now we can charge you whatever we want for a year. so i'm told that those charges could be tens of thousands of dollars a year or even higher, so in that sense, you think, you know, what would people do? even though it's only one year that you can face these very high charges, if they're very high and you can't afford it, you're basically uninsured. >> we have we heard a lot about
the high risk pools, are they going to help people with pre existing conditions? >> they could. they called also be a problem. if you do have a lapse in insurance and you have a pre-existing condition, that's when you go into your state high risk pool. it's there for you, again, they can charge you whatever they want for a year. there's no germany tees about what they will charge you and there is no guarantees about what they will cover. they might not cover certain things. so critics are saying, wait a second, this is really a problem. republicans say, hey, we will put billions of dollars into these high risk pools just to make sure people can afford them. so that's an option that states can have is to use that money. many experts i talked to said even though it's billions of dollars, it may not be enough. >> what about people on medicaid? >> people on medicaid with pre-existing condition, medicaid has to take them. they can't charge them extra. so that's good news, but there is a very big piece of bad news
for people on medicaid. do you remember what obamacare did, they expanded medicaid, so the federal government said, here, we're going to give you money to insure more people on medicaid. if that gets taken away under the republican bill. so that's a lot of people who took advantage of expanded medicaid, who probably wouldn't be able to under this bill and then they're going to find themselves in a situation as all these other americans, so on the individual market, they're not getting to sue their employer. they're going to be on the individual market. they can suffer the same problems we can talk about if they have a pre-existing condition. >> we'll see what the senate does on this, thanks,. just more breaking news tonight in the russia white house, watch a new report tonight that senior members of president trump's transition team warned national security adviser michael flynn about the risc of his contacts with the ambassador. plus, claims the white house has made repeatedly this week about the fence in this photo they said a border fence, it's not. but the white house is saying now based on our reporting.
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. breaking news tonight the russia white house the washington post is reporting senior members of president trump's transition team warned national security adviser michael flynn about the risk of his contact with the russian ambassador, according to report, these warnings came weeks before flynn was recorded discussing u.s. sanctions with the russian ambassador sergei kislyak. >> that led to flynn's reversal, on monday, sally yates acting attorney general will testify to the senate judiciary committee and will testify before the panel, jim scuitto joins us now with details. what are we pecksicing on monday? >> from sallyiate, will you have the tomorrow critiquing michael flynn saying nearly three weeks before she was fired to president trump, she delivered a forceful warning to the white house he was in danger of being compromised by russia. >> the honorable sally yates.
>> reporter: for ten days in january, she was the acting u.s. attorney general and on one of those day, she delivered a forceful warning to the white house regarding then national security adviser michael flynn. >> i want to thank you for your leadership. >> reporter: now on monday, samly yates will for the first time tell her account of that warning to the senate judiciary committee. cnn learned in a january 26th meeting with don mcbegan, yates said flynn was lying when he denied discussing u.s. sanctions with russia with sergei kislyak. flynn's misleading comments, yates told the white house, made him possibly vulnerable to plaquemail by issue. >> welcome to the department of justice. >> reporter: yates' account contradicts that of the white house, which has described her warning in far less serious terms. >> the acting attorney general informed the white house counsel that they wanted to get quote a heads-up to us on some comments
that may have seen e seemed in conflict with what he had sent the vice president. >> reporter: just days after delivering the warning, yates was fired for refusing to enforce president trump's travel ban. yates' testimony comes's the multiple congressional committees investigating russia's interference in the u.s. election put on bipartisan appearances. >> we are working together very well, the whole committee is, grateful for that opportunity. >> reporter: meanwhile the questions from lawmakers in open session tell a very different story. republicans focused on alleged leaks of classified information. >> director comey, have you ever been an anonymous source in news reports about matters relating to the trump investigation or the clinton investigation? >> there are clearly members of the ic that have at different points in the past leaked classified information. >> that is an illegal act, correct? >> reporter: democrats focused on any ties between the trump campaign and russia. >> the president of the united
states could be a target of your ongoing investigation into the trump campaign's involvement with russian interference in our election. >> from an investigative standpoint, is the sheer number of connections unusual or significant? >> how much will you be able to say publicly in this hearing since a lot of the information is classified? >> this is a big problem with the public versus the classified sessions. in public, there is a real limit as to how far she can go. we can say she reported she delivered this warning, it was 18 days before the white house fired him, she could go there, she can't get into the classified information that was the basis of her assessment he could be black mailed in effect by russia and we also i should say from yates, clapper and others not expecting a major russia bombshell, some sort of revelation about trump public contacts. >> we should talk about this being a massive hack and dumping into the e-mails of one of the candidates in the french elections days before voters go
to the polls. what is the latest? >> anderson, incredibly alarming de ja vu. you have a candidate, emmanuel mar mark macron,t gigabytes of e-mails, photos, targeting just him dating up to april 24ith, a little more than a week or so ago released on the web, fitting a pattern we are familiar here in the u.s. of document itself an e-mails, releases, targeting one candidate in the election. i should note as you have noted in the previous hour, anderson, his opponent, marine le pen is a russian candidate. she is accused of taking money from russia. it fates pattern here. i will add one more thing, u.s. spell jens officials have been telling me for weeks, they expect a russia emboldened by its punitive success here in u.s. to target elections if france, germany and that may
we have a story we brought you last week. today president trump signed the spending bill into law that will keep the government going into fall. we have been showing you some claims about border wall construction, well, just aren't true. it all started this week when two separate white house officials stood at the podium in the press room and pointed to photos they say showed flimsy chain linked border fencing being replaced by big steel fencing. the whole thing was to bolster the claim and campaign promise that they're serious about building a wall, budget direct ore nick mulvaney said on tuesday. >> we are building this now. there is money in this deal to build several hundreds of millions of dollars of this to replace this. >> so we decided to check that
out, we sent gary tubman to the border construction site. he is pointing to a cane link fence saying that was like this flimsy border protection that they were rebuilding and making into a much sturdier fencing. it's in sunland park, new mexico. here is some of what he found. >> in addition to the trains chugging along this border, one thing we noticed is this chain link fence which a child on the mexican side was climbing, a fence the budget director actually pointed out. >> this doesn't stop drugs. it doesn't stop criminals from crossing the border. in fact, it doesn't stop anything from crossing the border. >> secretary sean spicer noticed it. >> you see a chain link fence, that is literally down there now. we are able to go in there and instead of having a chain link fence replace wit that bollerred wall. >> keeping them honest again the chain link fence has never been a border fence.
workers on the scene can't go on camera tell us it's a part of the construction site put up by the construction workers for safety. >> it's unbelievable that two folks in the white house, sean spicer both were pointing to this as a border fence when it's just not true. so to be clear, that was never, ever a border wall or a border fence, it was only put up to help with construction? >> reporter: that's standard protocol when you build these border walls or improve the actual border walls or fences, that you put up chain link construction fences in order to keep people safe on both side, you won't e don't want people running through when you are working there. it's a temporary fix. >> you are trying to get white house, you call a call today from the office of budget and management. what did they say? >> reporter: i talked to the budget of communications, he said it's an honest mistake. they told me they did not know it was a temporary fence, maybe
we should have been more clear. they absolutely made their point much easier, there are hundreds of miles where there is no fence, fence up to your knees with barbed wire, it would have been easier to find something else, they made a presumption this fence next to the steel wall they were building was a part of the border fence, it's a presumption they made and it was wrong. >> nobody bothered to check. as we played a minute ago, mulvaney said we are building this now, there is money in this deal to build several hundred of this to replace this. what did office have to say about that? >> reporter: well, the fact is, they do have money now, they can start building the wall where there was wall before. >> that will be allowed with the money they have now t. trump administration, though, cannot build few wall where there wasn't wall. one quote they made, though, anderson, the other day the budget director made, he said this stuff is going up now, why? because the president is making the country safe t. intonation there was the result of donald
trump. >> right. >> the communications director says we acknowledged it has nothing to do with donald trump on the beginning of the wall, but he could stop construction if he wanted to, the back call perhaps wasn't very clear said we are not trying to take credit for that fence in new mexico. if people got that impression, it is not what we were trying to say. >> it sounds like they were making it sound like that's why this budget was a when for them, because they were doing this wall. you said that wall went up because of george w. bush and even under president obama, they could continue to repair a wall. >> reporter: well, not only george w. bush, right, george w. bush and barack obama allowed to continue. donald trump had nothing to do with it. he said that donald trump was now the president, if he had the feeling that he didn't want a fence to be built, he can stay stop the construction. he's not stopping it. in that sense, he's not spebl. they said, we are not making the
impression he is responsible for the fence in the picture, yes, we made honest mistakes. >> all right. gary tubman, keeping them honest, thanks very much. up next, rupert murdock introduced the president at a dinner last night in new york at a time when the department of justice is introducing fox news, this raises ethical questions. we will talk it over. michael, can we get this data to...? look at me...look at me... look at me... you used to be the "yes" guy. what happened to that guy? legacy technology can handcuff any company. but "yes" is here. so, you're saying we can cut delivery time? yeah. with help from hpe, we can finally work the way we want to. with the right mix of hybrid it, everything computes. new pantene doesn't just wash i wiyour hair, it fuels it.gain. making every strand stronger.
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. president trumps meeting with australian prime minister malcolm turnbull brought mr. trump back to new york, they talked face-to-face aboard the aircraft intrepid. it put a spotlight on rupert murdock one of the speakers after the the trump-turnbull meeting. he introduced mr. trump. it's no secret they have a long running relationship. now that mr. trump is president. now their ties are raising concerns. >> the commander-in-chief, the president of the united states, my friend donald j. trump. >> reporter: president trump being introduced by 21st century
fox chairman rupert murdock thursday. trump echoing those warm words. >> thank you to my very good friend rupert murdock. >> reporter: the president also touting his past financial contributions to one of murdock's pet causes, the american australian association. >> through years through rupert, every years ago he'd send me this letter, could you please give money. i'd say, what do i sister to do with that rupert? i kept sending him money, money, now i realized, that was money well spent. that's right. right, rupert? >> reporter: it might have got an laugh. it's the relationship that's raising questions about possible conflict. the u.s. justice department which president trump oversees is investigating the murdock-owned fox news, looking into settlement payments, stemming from harassment complaints about former fox news boss roger ails. could the close relationship between trump and murdock stymie the pursuit of justice?
the president loves fox news, it's his favorite network and he's a frequent guest. >> how was easter? >> it was great. >> reporter: murdock's paper, like the new york post, helps to boost trump to celebrity status in the 1980s much later, fox's opinion shows help to lay the seeds for trump's election wins. maggie haberman of the "new york times" says trump and murdock now speak almost every day even as the justice department investigates fox's profit-making machine. thursday's high profile trump-murdock meeting calling to mind another eyebrow raising meeting. trump criticized heavily on the campaign trail. he blasted former president bill clinton's meeting with then attorney general loretta lynch as the doj was investigating hillary clinton's e-mails. >> so she met with him 45 minutes on the back of an airplane on the tarmac in arizona. i think it's disgraceful. i think it's a disgrace. >> reporter: but now that trump
is president, it's his relationships that are raising questions. brian stelzer, cnn, new york. >> lots to discuss. cnn political analyst white house correspondent maggie haberman and legal analyst jeffrey toobin. how close are the president and rupert murdock? >> much closer since he was president. they had a decades long relationship. it goes back to when he owns the new york post and fox news, fox news helped president trump's campaign a lot because he was on a lot, even before he was a candidate and trump sort of became a phenomenon on the new york city gossip pages through page 6 on the new york post. runer murdock was never close to trump. they knew each other. one was much healthier than the other. i think rupert murdock did not see trump as a serious contender for a long time for the presidency. but he has always craved a serious advisory style
relationship with a u.s. president. he did not have that with george w. bush. he clearly didn't have that with bill clinton. now he is essentially efforting that with donald trump. they speak if not daily, several times a week. we reported this in the "time's" a couple weeks ago. the content of the conversation is a little unclear. it is said to include essentially a broad set of issues. murdock is staying focused on the economy or should we say more broadly focused on foreign policy but with specific targets, there is the question of whether this is wise given the fact that the justice department is overseeing a probe into women with sexual harassment at fox news. >> which the president has been supportf of bill o'reilly and roger ailes. >> i think he distanced himself from ailes, that has changed. they don't speak anymore i understand from several people. in the case of murdock, they clearly do. in terms of bill o'reilly, we were in the office a couple weeks ago, we were speaking to
the president. he mentioned bill o'reilly in another context, off the record and i asked him whether he thought o'reilly was being treated unfairly. he defended him pretty strongly. >> it's not illegal. is it inappropriate? i'm trying to think of clinton and lynch meeting on the tarmac. >> well, you know, it's the difference between laws and norms. certainly, it is not illegal for donald trump to talk to rupert murdock every day if he wants to. but he is a part of a company that's under investigation and every other president that i'm aware of would have a white house council who would say, you know, just cool it. it didn't look right. but donald trump has made his name violating what we think of as norms not rules. the most famous being releasing your tax returns. that's been a norm of american politics for decades. it's not a law. and donald trump won the presidency without releasing his
tax returns. this is the kind of thing that you know it is not ill local, but no other president that i can think of and democrat or republican would talk to a ceo a lot who is, next, under federal investigation. >> the, obviously, fox news has while during the campaign, you know, there were some folks at fox news, megyn kelly, who is tough with donald trump, critical of donald trump, maik maybe tucker karlsson until he got his own show, it seems they're now fully on board on the trump train. >> i think rupert murdock has a habit when he gets behind someone being all in. you are seeing that now. i do think there are a lot of good straight news reporters at fox news, there are people who are not sort of appear to be pushing if one direction. absolutely, chris wallace and trump interviews. i do think on the whole you are seeing tonally supportive day
in, day out, of the president unquestioning of whether his some of his agenda is meeting what it says it is or whether they are forthright with the facts. >> you three this is appropriate? >> i think as jeffrey said it is not illegal. it's not something i can think offian one else doing. it is, it raises questions about the appearance and it is the question you asked, this i don't know how different this is from the loretta lynch meeting with bill clinton on an airplane? that created a huge stir. >> thanks very much, i hate to interrupt. new details on the apparent prison suicide, aaron hernandez, what investigators believe happened in his final hours. mr. stevens? this is your new name. this is your new house. and a perfectly inconspicuous suv. you must become invisible. [hero] i'll take my chances.
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window. he used one of his bed sheets, the floor of his cell was covered in shampoo. hernandez was then cut down by the officers and they began to perform chest compressions. hernandez was rushed to a nearby hospital where he was pronounced dead at 4! o 7 a.m. video under surveillance shows no one entered his cell after 8:00 p.m.. at one point, hernandez had methodically created an elaborate suicide scene. hernandez' right middle finger had a fresh cut with blood on his hand. investigators found a bible in the cell, you are looking at the front cover the bible opened to john 3:16 with blood marking the verse. next to the bible were three handwritten notes, one of those letters written to his fiancee was released today in legal
filings. shay, you have always been my soul mate and i want you to live life and know i am always with you. i told you what was coming indirectly. i love you so much and know you are an angel. investigators spoke to inmates about hernandez after his death, many said he was excited after his recent acquittal in his double murder trial. they described him as positive, happily emotional. they said he had gotten more spiritual as time progressed in prison, even talked about playing in the nfl again and had requested his laundry be ready for an upcoming week visit by his fiance and daughter. >> that visit never happened. despite these positives, his reality was rather grim. he was serving a life term for first degree murder. one inmate told police that shortly before lock in that final night, hernandez came to his cell door saying what could
have been his final words, remember, when you die, your soul hernandez's lawyer remains unsatisfied saying he and his team of experts will begin an independent investigation into his death alleging the total lack of professionalism exhibited by government officials and their employees during this entire process is unprecedented. >> why is the defense so intent on launching new investigations? >> jose baez is not alleging impropriety, but he believes they have their investigators and they have fogood ones. he's also saying that the family of hernandez, they were not treated well. they were never apprised by the state of what the investigation was doing, that the media knew more than they did. we have just gotten a letter from jose baez, in regard to the
suicide note that was attached today in a legal filing. i read it, and he says that it didn't have to be in that filing. it's clearly amateur hour, he says. instead of protecting victims, they are punishing and torturing the hernandez family, who need to grieve. >> strong words. jean, thank you very much. an infamous missing person case. it was ten years ago this week when madeleine mccann vanished while sleeping during a family vacation in portugal. just days shy of her fourth birthday. a lot of leads have been foll followed. randi kaye has a special report that premieres at the top of the hour. here's preview. >> there are two witnesses who say independent of one another that they saw what they described as a very ugly, pock marked or spotty skinned man watching apartment 5-a.
>> another witness reported having seen suspicious men on a balcony near the mccann's apartment just hours before madeleine disappeared. >> meanwhile, an upstairs neighbor saw another mann acting suspiciously in a pathway between the pool garden and the apartment. >> and there was more. british police released a sketch of one of the men they say had approached nearby apartments, asking residents for donations to a local orphanage. >> now, there was no such orphanage. so clearly, these men were involved in some kind of a crime, possibly just burglary. but possibly something else. >> randi joins us now. do the police think that the mccannes were being watched? >> they do. certainly in the days leading up to that, witnesses say they noticed strange men standing
around at the gate area and looking into the windows of this apartment a 5-a. we went back there to portugal and stood on the corner and the investigator showed us why their apartment would have been more exposed. there were a lot of different access points. the question is, why were they being watched? were they watched so somebody could take her for a black market adoption operation, or maybe it was just a botched burglary or burglary gone bad. the parents still holding out hope that she's alive. kate mccann still buys christmas presents for her every year. >> randi kaye, thanks so much. the special report is just minutes away at the top of the hour, followed by the special report "downward spiral, aaron hernandez" at 11:00. up next, anthony and i talk about one of his latest adventures. >> a beautiful place.
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cnn. he's paid to travel around the world, soaking up local customs and eating incredible food. this time he went to a town in northern spain and i talked to him about it. this upcoming episode -- >> it's a place i have a lot of friends. it has more five-star restaurants than anywhere in europe. it's very, very old culture who track their language. everyone is still trying to figure out where they came from, and as best anyone can figure out, they've done genetic and language testing, they go back to like caveman times. they have just always been there. they're food obsessed. their ingredients are arguably the best. and pound for pound, it might be
the best destination in europe to eat in. even bad restaurants are great. meaning even the cheesy tourist restaurant with the pictures and the menu in english is going to deliver you really good food. just very, very proud. it's a beautiful place. >> have you been there before? >> numerous times. this was a purely selfish enterprise, using cnn's money, i cynically went back to st. sebastien, and shoved delicious, delicious food and fine wines in my face for a little over a week. so thanks. >> well, sounds good. at least you brought us along on the journey. >> we made some high test food forn o porn out, i'm telling you. the shot progression is similar. start wide, move in more the medium. you know the rest. >> yeah, i okokay.
that's our climax there, i think. >> so to speak. >> don't miss anthony's show sunday 9:00 p.m. eastern and pacific. that's it for us. cnn special report "missing, madeleine mccann," starts now. one more big smile. that's pretty. >> the face of little madeleine mccann captured the world's attention. five days into their tranquil get away, tragedy struck. >> such is under way for a 3-year-old british girl. >> please, if you have madeleine, let her come home. >> the high profile, worldwide search. >> i don't know where she could be. >> the shocking