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and judgment, so i think that that's how he would judge politics today. >> tune in at any time at 7:00 here on cnn for a special jfk night. i'm brooke baldwin. thank you so much for being with me. "the lead" starts right now. thank you, brooke. air force one returns and the president is out of airplane mode. "the lead" starts right now. president trump returns home with a tweet storm as the russia investigation hits closer to home. what's next for jared kushner, the president's trusted son-in-law after a new report that he push sued a secret line to the kremlin? testing trump again. north korea fires its third ballistic missile in as many weeks as the pentagon prepares for the growing threat in an unprecedented way. plus, in the rough. the mug shot after tiger woods is arrested in florida. why he spent part of his morning in jail.
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good afternoon. on this memorial day and welcome to "the lead. go the "i'm jim sciuto in for jake tapper. president trump joined americans in paying respects to the military men and women who gave their lives for this country at a ceremony at the tomb of the unknowns in arlington national cemetery. it was the president's first public event since returning from his first foreign trip but behind the scenes and naturally on twitter the president has been busing, tempting some trump-style damage control. cnn correspondent jeff zeleny joins us now. tell us what's happening inside the white house. >> reporter: the white house was hoping the president would return back from his trip abroad with the wind at his back and finally the chance to change the subject. that frankly has not happened. the russia investigation remains at the center of everything here in the west wing, even as the president had a commander in chief moment at arlington national cemetery cemetery. >> present. >> reporter: president trump paying respects today at arlington national cemetery. on his first memorial day as
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commander in chief, the president honoring heros from wars gone by. >> we pay tribute to those brave souls who raced into gunfire, roared into battle and ran into hell to face down evil. >> reporter: and fighting in conflicts still today. >> today a new generation of american patriots are fighting to win the battle against terrorism. ♪ >> reporter: with the sound of "taps" echo akrog the grounds at arlgton the president and his commanders looking on, a poignant reminder of a decision he's facing, whether to accept their recommendation to send more troops to afghanistan. the president making an impromptu stop at section 60, the final resting place for americans killed in iraq and afghanistan. he visited the grave of homeland security secretary john kelly's
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son killed seven years ago in afghanistan's helmand province. the afghanistan decision and a growing lives items on the president's agenda have been overshadowed and in some cases complicatesed by the internal chaos at the white house. jared kushner, the president's senior adviser and son-in-law, is under fire for trying to establish a secret channel of communications with russian officials during the transition. he's willing to discuss the matter with the fbi and congress, officials tell cnn, but the scrutiny is threatening to upend his first among equal status in the west wing. trying to move beyond the crisis the president is still weighing a reshuffling of his staff, although aides tell cnn nothing is imminent. the president making clear his annoyance in a storm of weekend tweets. it is my opinion that many. leaks coming out of the white house are fabricated lies made up by the fake news media. he added this. the fake news media works hard at disparaging and demeaning my use of social media because they
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don't want america to hear the real story. after returning from his first international trip, the white house hoped the president's time abroad would change the subject. >> i think we hit a home run no matter where we are. >> reporter: but tonight his meetings with world leaders also being seen in a harsher light with german chancellor angela merkel bluntly saying the u.s. is no longer a reliable partner. >> the times where we could completely count on others, they are over to a certain extent. i've experienced this in the last few days, and that is why i can only say that we europeans must really take our fate into our own hands. >> reporter: now those words from angela merkel there were not the only words she had for the president. jim, she tried in meeting after meeting as did other leaders at the nato summit and then again at the g7 to urge this president to stay engaged in the paris climate agreement. we're told that decision is going to come sometime this week. all signs are here that the u.s. is poised to pull out of that. the president has not made his
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final plan yet, but, jim, if that should happen, that raises more concerns among many here, including some republicans in washington, about the u.s. position and strength in the world. jim? >> that would be a truly remarkable move. jeff zeleny, thanks very much. more now on that deepening crisis here at home, a crisis which is truly hitting home now for president trump. with the so-called secretary of everything, mr. trump's son-in-law jared kushner, getting an even closer look. tonight the president's son-in-law jared kushner is the subject of intense scrutiny after a source tells cnn that he requested backchannel communications with the kremlin this. happened last december when kushner met with russia's ambassador to the u.s. during the transition and now some democrats are challenging kushner's role in the white house. >> i do think there ought to be a review of his security clearance to find out whether he was truthful, whether he was candid. if not, then there's no way he can maintain that kind of a clearance. >> reporter: according to "the
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washington post" russian ambassador sergey kislyak told his superiors kushner wanted to use russian diplomatic facilities for an off-the-record communications system to evade u.s. intelligence monitoring, a move that even kislyak thought was riskry. sources tell cnn that kushner sought the secure channel for him and now former national security adviser michael flynn to discuss military operations in syria and other matters with russian military officials. former fbi director robert mueller, the man now leading the investigation into whether trump's campaign associates collude were russia, spoke at his granddaughter's commencement today where he urged students never to sacrifice their integrity. >> if you are not honest, your reputation will suffer, and what's lost, a good reputation can never ever be regained. >> reporter: his first public speech since his appointment, but over the weekend others in the intelligence community raised the alarm. former cia and nsa director michael hayden called kushner's attempted backchannel
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unprecedented. >> this is off the map, michael. i know of no other experience like this in our history. >> reporter: former dni james clapper raised similar concerns. >> my dashboard warning light was clearly on, and i think that was the case with all of us in the intelligence community. >> reporter: homeland security secretary retired general john kell, however, called such clandestine communications perfectly normal. >> it's both normal in my opinion and acceptable. any way that you can communicate with people, particularly organizations that may not be particularly friendly to us is a good thing. >> reporter: for jared kushner new contacts with russia keep surfacing. in addition to the december meeting with kislyak reuters reports that kushner had several previously undisclosed communications with the russian ambassador, including two phone calls prior to the election last november. in response kushner's lawyer tells cnn, quote, mr. kushner participated in thousands of calls in this time period. he has no recollection of the calls as described.
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as you just heard, secretary kelly says that keeping open communication channels with russia is actually a good thing. a former cia and nsa director says the way jared kushner might have gone about it is, quote, off the map. general michael hayden joins us after the break. if you have moderate to severe plaque psoriasis, isn't it time to let the real you shine through? introducing otezla, apremilast. otezla is not an injection or a cream. it's a pill that treats plaque psoriasis differently. some people who took otezla saw 75% clearer skin after 4 months. and otezla's prescribing information has no requirement for routine lab monitoring. don't take otezla if you are allergic to any of its ingredients. otezla may increase the risk of depression. tell your doctor if you have a history
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else is president, is that illegal? >> no. they thought jared kushner was a good person and has the best of intentions. i have no argument with that. i just thought that was bad idea, all right. what was he trying to accomplish by creating indebtedness to someone like the russians whom we knew at that time had intervened in our electoral process. i mean, the disregard for the routine practices, i don't want to say contempt, but it might have been for the administration that they were replacing. how about the suspicion of the intelligence community on which they were going to have to rely. all of that have seemed to go into this decision to count on the russians for this secret backchannel and backchannels are fine. i've been a backchannel, all right, but you don't do it when you're not the government, and i don't think you do it when you use your adversary's
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communication system. >> naivety. >> and chaos, maybe a little arrogance and hubris. >> we at the same time had the president with -- in europe his first foreign trip and goes to nato and ears perking up from european leaders and what is he going to say about nato? we're hearing disappointment. you're a former intelligence office and look at jared kushner's behavior here plus other things we've heard about trump campaign contacts with the russians. you've pieced together incomplete information many times in your life. what is your best read? do you think it was intentional, like intentional collusion or something more innocent? >> i'm not prepared to say it was intentional collusion. i've not seen any evidence of that. people's whose judgment i trust, james clapper, john brennan, said by the time they left there was no evidence of clowe lose, but naivety, disrespect for established process eds, actually lead you into a
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position where you could be exploited by an adversary, and we might find that to be true. >> the thing is clapper and others have said when they left no evidence, but now you hear and the once fbi director as recently as march in sworn testimony and our reporting are and you hear from both republicans and democrats on relevant committees that it's still an open question, the question of collusion. >> look, there's enough circumstantial evidence, enough kind of difficult-to-explain contacts, jim, that this does deserve a full airing, but i'm not predicting it an outcome here. frankly, you know, the most likely outcome from my judgment is a cloud with people who thought this was mal intended at the beginning, being convinced and those who thought it was innocent and naive will also be convinced. >> ultimately unsatisfying conclusion so let's talk about europe a little bit. genuine alarm that you're seeing in public comments, not just in private comments, from the leader of germany, one of america's closest allies, from the leader of france, one of
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america's closest allies. how important was it that president trump would not say those simple words, that we stand with you, article 5 of the nato. we will come to your common defense. >> so for someone like me that's a real big deal but let's be fair to the president, all right. he campaigned in a certain way, and he's fulfilling many of his campaign promises. there was ansightful comment my saying people like me took him literally but not seriously. all the people who voted him took him seriously but not literally, but he appears to be governing literally, or at least governing literally, jim in, foreign affairs where the president has an awful lot more running room than they do in domestic affairs and i think a core of the trump campaign, and he said this throughout the campaign, or at least his comments reflected this, that american alliances were a burden, not a strategic advantage, so literally on day one, he rips up the transpacific partnership which is a broad
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strategic alliance i think masquerading as an economic deal and then he goes to europe and doesn't say the kinds of things that you would normally expect an american president to say, and the europeans noticed. most interestingly, a lot of his cabinet officials and his vice president have said the things that the europeans expect americans to say, but he refused to do it, and now you've got this response. i think genuine heartfelt response from the europeans. >> genuine alarm, almost palpable coming from those public comments. general hayden, thanks so much as always. >> thanks, jim. hours before the u.s. military tests a system designed to intercept a north korean missile the communist nation is scaring the nation once again. now someone at least have demanding concrete action. and then tiger woods arrested and in trouble off the links again. details on the charges that he will face ahead. (dog) mmm. this new
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welcome back to "the led." topping our world lead, y2k north korea launching its third ballistic missile in the past two weeks traveling 250 miles before splashing down in the sea of japan. president trump tweeting this response, quote, north korea has shown great disrespect for their neighbor china by shooting off another ballistic missile, but china is strike hard, exclamation point. this comes as the u.s. is planning to test an updated missile intercept system tomorrow. cnn's will ripley is in tokyo. we know you spent a lot of time, a number of trips to north korea. how is the region? how are japan and other powers who are much closer to the north korean threat reacting to this latest test? >> as you would expect, jim, here in tokyo the prime minister shinzo abe promising concrete action and the repeated threat of a strong military response as
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a result of this, and, of course, president trump's tweet alluding to the fact that really what the united states is relying on here is for china to do something about this. remember back in the mid-2000s after north korea's first nuclear test in the bush administration was hoping that china would solve the north korea problem, now we're five nuclear tests and countless missile launch eds later and the bottom line is if japan and south korea and the united states could do something to stop north korea from launching missiles they would have done it already. they really don't have a solution right now other than the really unpleasant and potentially catastrophic one which would be military action. >> a key question here is does this latest test demonstrate advancement in the north korean program? >> what is shows is their determination more than any technological advancement because this missile according to intelligence analysts was a scud missile that flew and landed near waters next to the
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japanese coast and waters that landed near the north korean trajectory zone. thankfully it didn't hit any shipping vessels or cargo because these are very busy waters. what it shows is despite current round of u.n. sanctions and international condemnation and diplomatic condemnation kim jong-un is pushing forward and unless china cracks down, billions of dollars are being pumped in, chinese goods on store shelves and chinese cars on streets and chinese dollars that are frankly paying in large part for this missile program so as president trump allude, if china doesn't try hard, this is just going to continue. >> right, and the trump administration policy seems to be depending on china to do this. will ripley, thanks very much. president trump says that china is trying to put the pressure on north korea, but is that really the case? a member of the house foreign affairs committee will join us next. what if there was a paint for your door... ...that stood up to any amount of sunlight... ...no matter how bright.
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members are tracking news out of the white house and overseas. congressman gregory meeks, democrat of new york state, member of the foreign affairs committee. thanks for taking time out of your memorial day. >> good being with you. >> we learned president trump's adviser and son-in-law jared kushner discussed creating a backchannel between the trump cane and the kremlin in this meeting last december. many republicans have come out saying they believe that this kind of backchannel might be a good thing. i wonder if you agree with that. >> no, it's puzzling to me. you know, when you are talking about backchannel when you're not yet in office, there's another administration that was in place and you're talking about doing it in the facilities of an adversary and on top of that when russia had played a tremendous role in our intelligence, all the
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intelligence agencies admitted that and with candidate trump saying russia, keep doing what you're doing and later you hear conversations from individuals not admitting their involvement in conversations they have had with the russians, it just makes it very -- seems very curious and more than just a coincidence that you've had this kind of dialogue and conversation to try to specifically exclusion our intelligence individuals from hearing these conversations. >> more than a coincidence. what the are you implying? >> well, i'm implying that if you just start looking at the dots, that's why i'm glad we have an independent counsellor and prosecutor that are now looking at the scenario to see if there are any connecting dots because it just seems to me that russia has been in the mainstream of all of the trump administrators and trump individuals within his campaign. there seems to be some kind of
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connection, and trump does not want to show his income taxes to see whether or not there's been any money there, and it's clear that kushner -- mr. kushner has also had some dealings and was trying to get some money from russia, so there's just a lot of things that all just seems to -- the air seems to be all around russia. why? we need this independent prosecutor going too it needs and as well as an independent commission so that we can figure out what's going on. there's no question that the russians have played a role in our elections, this past election. >> i want to talk about another threat. there seems to be no shortage. north korea launching another ballistic missile. the 12th missile so far of the trump presidency. in response president trump tweeted the following. north korea has shown great disrespect for their neighbor china by shooting off another ballistic missile but china is trying hard, exclamation point. the fact is the our research has shown that chinese trade with
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north korea has actually increased this year. in your view is china actually trying hard to curb the north korean nuclear program? >> all evidence shows that as you just indicated that trade and china with north korea is continuing. the conversations that the president is having with china seems to be just on a friendly basis, and i'm again puzzled by the actions of the administration. it seems to me that with his philosophy of doing or dealing with countries on a bilateral basis as opposed to a multi-lateral base ease is inquisitive as well as him seeming to deal with individuals who do not share the same values that we have as members of the united states. i look at how he handled on this recent trip which i think was a failure in europe, how he handled our allies and was really critiquing them and how he was praising many of those in
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saudi arabia and egypt who do not share the same values that we have, and now here again in china he's talking good about china, but it's strictly much more importnt for us to unite all of the other countries around, and i think that the obama administration was moving in that direction. many democrats, i would agree, did not think of this or look at tpp, for example, as it was more than just a trade deal. it was putting us together in a multi-lateral way to combat china and its economy so that they then have to deal with us because we could affect their economy. what we simply did was give china a free and, and everyone can still trade with them. their economy keeps moving and china can then still use north korea as a buffer. >> let me ask you because you mentioned alliances. of course, the president visited the nato alliance and tremendous disappointment expressed by u.s. allies, the german chancellor, hey merkel, the new french president. merkel said that europe can no
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longer rely on the u.s. under president trump. are they right? >> yeah, based upon the statements that the president has made. let's look at what happened. he refused to commit to article 5 which is saying that if one attacked we'll all be together against one of those nations that are attacked. he has -- also has a refused to acknowledge and look at the eu as a whole. he's not getting involved in the climate change -- we'll see what happens, but he did not commit to staying with the climate change treaty so it seems all those things, the multi-lateral agreements. he's talked bad about the wto. you will a of the multi-lateral agreements that we've entered in, which our allies in europe and nato have been so tied in, those are the things that he wants to get out of it, and so, therefore, if i was in europe, i would be very concerned also. i'm headed there for a transatlantic legislative dialogue with other parliamentarians, and i know
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from my other travels there i'm the lead democrat on the foreign affairs committee on europe. they are all very concerned, and it's based upon words that the president have stated. >> it's interesting. a lot of that criticism seems to be in private and congressman gregory meeks, thanks very much. >> my pleasure. >> a day to honor and remember the men and women who gave their lives fighting for our country. we're going to talk to former special operations commander admiral mccraven about the men who were lost a. my dell small business advisor has gotten to know our business so well that is feels like he's a part of our team. with one phone call, he sets me up with tailored products and services. and when my advisor is focused on my tech, i can focus on my small business. ♪
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that goes wherever you do, the picture fades but the person in it does not. >> the empty chair. welcome back. that was secretary of defense james mattis who joined president trump in remembering the fallen at arlington national cemetery today. after the ceremony, the president visited the graves of troops killed in iraq and afghanistan, including the final resting place, you see it there, of a certain marine, first lieutenant robert kelly, the son of homeland security secretary john kelly. on this memorial day we and you are doing the same, taking a moment to honor our many, many fallen soldiers and service members. earlier jake spoke with the former head of u.s. special operations command, retired admiral william mccraven about what this somber day means to a veteran like him. >> admiral thank you so much for being here, and more importantly thank you for your nearly four decades of service to this nation. >> well, thanks, jake. could be to be with you today.
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>> so, you've lost a lot of brave americans who served under your command. i know on memorial day you're thinking about them and their families. is there any specific person or incident when you think of memorial day. >> well, you know, unfortunately, jake, in my time after 9/11 in both iraq and afghanistan we did lose a lot of soldiers, well over 400 of them and i tend to think more of the mass casualties the ones we had with extortion 17, turbine 33, ones that crashed during operation red wing in 2005 and extortion 17 on august 6th in 2011 and we lost a lot of great soldiers, army aveiators and s.e.a.l.s and also remember mike murphy, robbie monsieur, robbie miller, soldiers and sailedors that gave their all and were
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recipients of the medal of honor, and then frankly you have those very personal moments where you remember some troops like johnny markham and jason friedwald that died on the operating table. you never forget those. so to me memorial day is really about remembering the incredible sacrifice of all the soldiers, sailors and airmen and marines and civilians that have fought in all of our wars and taking just that extra minute to say a little prayer for their families, for those that were their friends so we never forget the service and sacrifice of the incredible men and women. >> last year special ops forces were deployed in more than 130 countries. we've seen many sad deaths of special ops in somalia and yemen an afghanistan. earlier this month army general raymond thomas, a commander of u.s. special ops says special operations are, quote, not the solution to every problem, unquote and the rate of deployment is, quote,
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unsustainable. do you agree? >> you know, i do agree, and nobody is in a better position to understand that than tony thomas who has probably spent more time in combat than almost any other single officer we have in special operations so he understands the strains of combat and deployments not only the soldiers, sailors, airmen and marines and the families that have to stay back and i'm in complete agreement with tony's assessment on two points. one, special operations are not the solution to every problem. we're not going to stop the north koreans from coming south and won't be able to keep the straits of hormuz open and with v an incredible niche and we have an incredible force to use and we have to be careful how much and how often we use them and recognize the strain on the force >> if you were advising president trump what do you suggest he would do when it comes to defeat being isis in iraq and syria? >> well, i actually think he's on a pretty good path right now, and i need to credit both
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president obama and president trump. you know, this really started this being kind of the surge in special operations forces and additional ground forces into iraq and into syria, you know, probably last year around this time, so president obama kind of started this, and president trump has continued it, and i think it is a good strategy. >>-ins a question that might be kind of silly to you, but i think there are a lot of americans who look at north korea and wonder, hey, why can't we just send a bunch of navel s.e.a.l.s or delta force into north korea, go in, capture or kill kim jong-un, problem solved. i know it's not that's, but tell us why. >> well, it's absolutely not that easy. you know, first, i'm not sure it's about kim jong-un. you know, while certainly, you know, you have a madman at the helm of north korea and the hard part about this, of course, is, you know, he is a guy that you can't understand what moves he will make as you make the next chess moves.
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he's not a rational actor so when you look at the dealings with putin or iran we understand they are rational actors. kim jong-un is not a rational actor so the steps we take, we don't know what the second and third steps will be. when you look at their nuclear program, open source between 15 and 20 nuclear weapons and they are trying to miniaturize those and weaponize those to put them on an icbm. most of that work is done underground and very difficult to get to hard buried targets underground. you're talking a long ways inland. they have an integrated air defense so the idea that we could spend a small special operations group in to either take out kju or take out their nuclear program is only the thing of bad movies. >> a lot of -- i don't know about bad movies, but i take your point. a lot of americans heard your name for the first time after the bin laden raid. a lot of americans heard you
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speak for the first time after your commencement address at the university of texas in 2014 which went viral. let's play a clip. >> if you make your bed every morning, will you have accomplished the first task of the day, and it will give you a small sense of pride, and it len courage you to do another task and another and another. and by the end of the day that one task completed will have turned into many tasks completed. making your bed will also reinforce the fact that the little things in life matter. >> you write in your book about how a simple task like making your bed can lead someone down a path of changing their lives and possibly changing their world. tell us more about that. >> well, you know, i think that this is a lesson we all learned when our parents tell us to make our beds, but the fact of the matter when you get into the military you begin to understand why that is important, and as i mentioned in the speech, and as i talk about in the book, you know, when i went to s.e.a.l.
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training the s.e.a.l. instructors, the first thing we had to do, two lessons and one is it's the first task. day and do the first task right and the next task and next teske and that would carry you through the day. the other thing is that this will matter and we as s.e.a.l. trainees understood if they gave you an order to make your bed had you to make it exactly right. so, again, the bed analogy, it's not that you have to make your bed to be a good person, but i have found in those times when i struggled in iraq and afc that getting up every morning, making my bed, taking a little pride in make the bed and doing it right real degive me some motivation for rest of the day. >> a good lesson for us all. admiral william mccraven, thank you so much for your time and service, and i'm wishing you and your family a peaceful and meaningful memorial day. >> thank you, jake. >> well, it could happen any day. the secretary of homeland
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we're back with the world lead now. british counterterrorism official tells cnn that investigators are no longer confident that the uk concert bomber trained with isis in syria. the attacker's brother had told authorities they were both members of isis. manchester police are still pursuing leads. today they released a new surveillance camera image taken before the attack. it shows the bomber salman abedi with a blue suitcase, different from the bag he carried during the bombing. police are asking people to report if they have seen this suitcase, as you see it there. they have no reason to believe it contains anything dangerous. >> now to our conflict of interest watch. this month the trump international hotel in washington hosted a conference
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for a business group that aims to improve relations between the u.s. and turkey. it is just one example of the complicated entanglement involving mr. trump's business empire and his presidency. as the trump organization says the money it receives from foreign governments ask just too hard for it to track r.cnn's cristina alesci filed this report. >> reporter: an annual meeting on u.s.-turkey relations. most years, a standard event, but not this year because this year it was at the trump international hotel in d.c., ground zero for president trump's conflicts of interest. >> frankly most people involved in the decision making didn't expect him to win the election, but we like the hotel. >> reporter: the head of the business council in turkey, and if his name sounds familiar it's because he's the guy who paid mike flynn, trump's fired national security adviser, to work on turkish interests. did the money that you paid flynn, did that come from a foreign government? >> absolutely not.
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it was my personal money. it came from my personal account. >> reporter: he says the turkish government didn't pay flynn, and he says the government didn't fund this conference at the trump hotel either. it was planned before trump became president, but the contract was signed after. >> we pay for all our activities, through sponsorships and membership fees so there's zero money from the government coming in. >> reporter: but ethics experts aren't so sure. >> it looks to us like several of the sponsors of the event are government-owned and government-controlled entities. we haven't seen the flown of money. >> reporter: the group falls under the foreign economic relations board of turkey which is indeed linked to the turkish government. why does that matter? because critics say payments from foreign governments to trump's companies violate the constitution. specifically the emollments clause. that's why the trump organization made this pledge back in january.
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>> president-elect trump has decided announced that he will donate all profits made from his hotels to the united states presidency. >> reporter: now the trump org says it's not practical to fully deliver on its promise. they will not track individual hotel guests or government money that flows through an outside group. >> they are deciding who call fielder's choice and what's a profit and they are essentially saying trust us, we've got this. >> reporter: the trump organization says, quote, we take these matters fully and are fully committed to complying with all of our legal and ethical relations and as for next year's u.s.-trump conference, at the trump hotel again and it's denied it has anything to do with getting the president's attention. >> i personally think it's preposterous that you can curry favor by staying in this hotel.
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>> reporter: cristina alesci, cnn, new york. >> great reporting by cristina alesci. more in the national lead. the secretary of homeland security says the terrorists are, quote, obsessed, with the idea of bringing down a u.s. passenger gentlemen. as a result the u.s. may soon expand the ban on large electronic devices in airplane cabins to all international flights, either entering or leaving the u.s. cnn's aviation correspondent renee marsh has been following the story for cnn. >> reporter: sophisticated threats towards commercial aviation is fueling new proposes restrictions on what electronics passengers can take into cabin of aircraft. homeland security secretary john kelly says terror groups are obsessed with blowing up commercial passenger planes and preferably a u.s. carrier bound for the united states. are you going to ban laptops from the cabin on all international flights, both into and out of the u.s.
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i might. kelly first told cnn on friday why he thinks expanding the laptop ban is necessary. some of the stakeholders who you've met with say that you've hinted that this ban could even happen right here on u.s. soil. is that true or did they misread you? >> they didn't misread me. i would tell you that the threats against passenger aviation worldwide are constant. >> a u.s.-based band would restrict electronics larger than a cell phone in a cabin. those include ipad, e-readers and laptops. it would be the most extreme step taken from a terror attack in september 11th. this weekend kelly said chilling intelligence is pushing him to expand the ban. >> there's a real threat. there's numerous threats against aviation. that's really the thing that they are obsessed with. >> the laptop ban is currently in place at ten airports in eight muslim-majority countries in the middle east and northern africa.
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all electronics larger than a cell phone have to be in checked luggage on those flights. in the meantime another new security measure is now in place at ten u.s. airports. electronics larger than a cell phone must be taken out of carry-on luggage to be screened separately. kelly says that, too, will likely expand nationwide. >> the tsa people in a are looking hat those bags can't see exactly what's in the bag bus they are stuffed so full. >> while kelly makes more clear new restrictions and screening measures are on way he's less clear on when those would happen. >> all right. well, despite the dire warnings from secretary kelly deliberations on the expansion of the ban has spanned on for several weeks. one u.s. official tells me that the lengthy deliberation is partly due to kelly's desire to consider the full impact of the ban, the airline industry says it helps drive some
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$1.5 trillion in economic activity so the question is how will this ban or could this ban impact all of this, he's weighing all of that and, of course, the science behind having all those batteries in the cargo hold. >> a remarkable step. thanks very much. the sports lead now. the last time tiger woods was involved in an accident with his car on a national holiday his entire legendary career and marriage was derailed and today tiger woods spent part of his memorial day in jail after he was arrested on suspicion of driving under the influence near jupiter florida near his home around 3:00 a.m. eastern time. police aren't releasing any other details about the arrest. it's not clear whether woods tested positive for alcohol or drugs. he was released without posting bonds. woods has been plagued with injuries in recent years and has had trouble staying on the course. his most recent operation on his back was a little more than a month ago. and that is it for "the lead.
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go the "i'm jake sciuto in for jake tapper and i turn you over to wolf blitzer who is on this memorial day in "the situation room." happening now. secret communications. the trump administration defends the alleged effort by jared kushner to set up secret backchannel links with the russians calling that normal and acceptable, but a former cia director calls it off the map and democrats are calling for a review of the security clearance for the president's son-in-law. broken trust. after meeting with president trump german chancellor angela merkel says europe can no longer completely rely on others and germany's foreign minister says president trump's actions have put europe's peace at risk. is a crucial alliance on rocks? democratic ter