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it's just about 5:00 p.m., you're live in the cnn newsroom. we thank you so much for joining us. on this holiday weekend we're celebrating our country's independence. the dominant narrative today surrounding the president of the united states has nothing to do with policy, making or enforcing laws, with our brave military men and women overseas. risking everything to protect our way of life. nor does it have to do with the health and well being of 23 americans. the president of the united states is spending his precious time putting this on the internet this video is high on the president's twitter feed right now, it's the same twitter account he's used for the past six eight days to call adult tv
hosts school yard names. now showing clips of himself at a wrestling match 10 years ago. the white house has insisted never happens. >> the president in no way, form or fashion has encouraged violence or anything, quite the contrary. >> after that clip went live, cnn released this statement. it's a sad day when the president of the united states encourages violence against reporters. clearly sarah huckabee sanders lied when she said the president had never done so. instead of preparing for his overseas trip, his first meeting with vladimir putin dealing with north korea and working on his health care bill, he's involved in juvenile behavior far beneath the dignity of his office. we will keep doing our jobs, he should do his.
the host of reliable sources, the sunday morning talk show. you dedicated much of the show this mourning talking about this tweet from president trump, what was your initial reaction. >> there's no need to stoop to his low level. the end of the statement says it all. we're going to keep reporting and do our job, he should do his job. the debate is ongoing all over twitter and facebook, is this presidential behavior from the president of the united states? is this juvenile behavior? could someone end up getting hurt? to be fair, this is not physical violence and he's not explicitly calling for violence, he's sharing a fantasy, where he's the strong man, he's the boss taking down cnn, laying the smackdown what they would say on wrestlemania. it's cartoonish, it's silly, but it can be damaging, both can be true at the exact same time. we asked, is this the kind of tweet that would be taken down
as harassment or violence. twitter has had to deal with harassment issues. they have a whole policy about this, we just heard from twitter, they have concluded after hours of internal discussions this tweet did not violate their own standards. that continues to be a problem for this company, because of this president and his use of twitter. why do we care? why do these tweets matter? it's a window into the president's thinking, that's why it matters when he's bashing the media on twitter. we don't hear from him often times in interviews. he hasn't given interviews lately. all we have to go on sometimes are his tweets. >> it's one of the few windows into his frame of mind. he seems to only do interviews lately with fox news, he won't answer direct questions with reporters during press briefings. >> we heard from ben sass this morning on state of the union
saying, trump is weaponizing distrust. >> i have that sound byte right now. >> there's around important distinction to draw between bad stories or crappy coverage and the right that citizens have to argue about that and complain about that, and trying to weaponize distrust. the first amendment is the beating heart of the american experiment. you don't get to separate the freedoms that are in there. >> weaponizing distrust. >> that's why this matters. cnn happens to be his target. it was the new york times, the washington post a few days ago, morning joe. who knows what outlet will be tomorrow. the president through all of these critiques and attacks is trying to cause more and more distrust of the media. to say to his fans, you can only trust me, you can't trust fake news reporters. there are a lot of real reporters trying to report the truth, trying to be fair to this president. i had a statement from the new york times the times and cnn.
he's supporting the times saying, it's unseemly the president would attack journ journalists for doing their jobs. i think that's why these kind of videos matter, it encourages anger and even hatred of the press. that's why some of our colleagues are worried about their safety and security when they see a video like this, even if it's just a joke, if people laugh at the video, who knows what sort of unstable mind could take away from it. >> it would be funny if there weren't so many serious important things happening in the world. >> right. >> we appreciate the time, we'll have you back in a couple minutes. thank you again. >> let's discuss further with our panel. gentlemen, thank you so much for joining us. during an interview earlier today, health and human services secretary tom price was asked about the president's recent twitter attacks, i want you to
listen to how he responded. >> this is really remarkable. you have incredible challenges across this nation, around the world, the challenge i've been given is to address the health care issues, and your program, the program with the incredible history of meet the press and that's what you want to talk about. >> i don't. >> let me just suggest to you that the american people want to talk about the challenges. >> i'm asking you why the president of the united states -- mr. secretary, with all due respect, you're blaming me for what the president of the united states has spent his entire week focused on? >> no, listen to me. with all due respect, the american people are concerned about a health care system that is not providing choices, where premiums are going up, their insurance companies is vacating markets all across this land, that's what they want us to concentrate on, fix, and that's what i and the president are working on. >> jeffrey, if the american people want to talk about health care, why are the majority of the president's recent tweets, which the white house says are
official statements, not about health care and tweets about wrestling videos. >> the white house put out a statement, irbelieve it was yesterday or the day before, in which they said -- they counted out the tweets, and two thirds of them were policy oriented. i believe that secretary price has a point. the president can tweet whatever he wants. the news media gets to choose what it wants to focus on, there's a lot going on out there, there's a lot going on in health care. i was stopped by a woman in the grocery store today, whos would complaining about the media and why they don't fwoek us on big issues and why they keep going after the president, and we should be focusing on things that dr. price is talking about, i do think that's a problem here, i would respectfully say to my friend brian. i do think it was a joke, i do think it was funny, but if we're going to go down that road, when you have papers like the washington post and david is there comparing the president to
adolf hitler, this goes in the other direction as well much. >> david, i want to get your response to that. >> two things for jeffrey, one is, he's right. the president can stweet or say what he wants. but to the statement that congressman price or secretary price made, bluster and brag doeshs and comical tweets are not going to bring people's premiums down, not going to pay people's student loans. they're not going to solve the situation in syria. if the president wants to persist on that electra jacketry, that's his prerogative i suppose. that's not resolving any of the situations for the voters that supported him, i think that is the point of a lot of the criticism, the other thing i wanted to say about -- look, i -- if you want to take the tweet as a joke, that's fine. i personally am not bothered by it, that's easy for me to say, right? i sit at a desk all day, we have
colleagues in -- our journalistic colleagues who are out reporting stories every day, and this is no longer a hypothetical. a few weeks ago, you had congressman gianforte pledging guilty for sucker punching ben jacobs from the guardian. i'm not going saying this is going to lead to an avalanche of violence. i think we're past the point of this just being brushed aside as purely a joke. >> jeffrey, the last time the president tweeted about health care was on friday, when he said senators should repeal obama care and replace it later, he's tweeted 14 times this weekend, more than half have been about the media or his own twitter habits, this time he specifically put the logo of cnn -- superimposed on a wrestler that he was beating up. we're not supposed to talk about that? >> well, i -- you know, rush
limbaugh has said for years, that liberals lost their sense of humor. >> jeffrey -- >> this might have been intended as a joke, this is the same person that told supporters at a rally to punch people in the crowd and he would pay their legal fees. >> do you know how many trump supporters have been savagely beaten by the american left? good lord, we just had somebody from the american left shoot a united states congressman. a republican. >> no one has condoned that. >> do you ever stop to think this is -- >> specifically because of that. >> jeffrey, specifically -- >> specifically because the rhetoric is so heated right now, shouldn't the president be the one setting the standard and cooling the temperature of the room? >> well, humor is a good coolant. >> this is not necessarily funny when you consider that as you said, people are getting shot over political receipt rikt. it doesn't matter if it's left or right.
>> it does matter, boris, i'm sor sorry, i disagree, it matters exactly. there's violence in the dna of the american left and always has been. whether they were sporting the ku klux klan in the 1800s or weather underground or occupy wall street, this is a philosophy that carries with it a gene of violence, they do this all the time. it does make a distinct difference. >> does it make a difference, david? >> look, jeffrey, my brother, you know i love you like a play step cousin, but come on, we are talking about what the president of the united states have -- >> humor, that's good, david. >> we are talking about what the president of the united states tweeted today, and tweeted for the last several days, let's focus on that, if the word presidential has any meaning left in it, he so far has not met that standard, maybe he will in the future, but -- you know, you're talking -- there is violence in a comes from the left, and that should be
condemned. i think people on the left, i think people on the democratic party have condemned it, there was violence toward republican congressmen, i don't know any reasonable person who in anyway would condone that. that was reprehensible. . jeffrey, you worked for ronald reagan. you're a conservative, ronald reagan and barry goldwater, have to be rolling over in their graves right now, that this -- that president trump with this behavior is carrying the flag for the conservative movement or the republican party or however you want to characterize it, this is not presidential, it -- again, one tweet is -- does not change everything. and by the way, i acknowledge, i think i said yesterday that this is still popular with his supporters, right? 80% of republicans still support the president in approval polls, that doesn't mean it's presidential, and that doesn't mean this had is helping anybody solve the many challenges that are facing the people that voted for him. >> i think he is doing that.
i think he's -- the tweet that boris just read from friday, is quite clearly, he's working on this. >> i mean, i don't know -- >> we have to leave it there, gentlemen. we have plenty to discuss, we hope you will stick around and join us later tonight. thank you so much for the time, appreciate it. >> thanks. coming up, repeal now, replace later, the president doubling back on his own words, the latest on the gop fight to roll back obama care. "how to win at business." step one: point decisively with the arm of your glasses. abracadabra. the stage is yours. step two: choose la quinta. the only hotel where you can redeem loyalty points for a free night-instantly and win at business.
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immediately repeal and then replace at a later date. gop senator ben sass first ju adjusted the option in in a letter to the president friday. and he spoke to jake tapper this morning. >> republicans ran on repeal and replace. the president ran on repeal and replace. we've been working on that for about in our months, if leader mcconnell can get across the finish line i'd like to see that happen. it needs to be a good replace. if we can do a combined repeal and replace over the next week, that's great. if we can't, there's no reason to walk away. we should do a repeal with a delay. i would want to delay so we could get straight to work, and i think the president should call on the senate to cancel our august state work period.
i think we should get to work at around the clock hearings on the repeal and replace plan. >> dan malloy joins me now from hartfo hartford. if republicans can't agree on a replacement plan now what's going to change in august? >> nothing's going to change. i mean, the plan they have will take insurance away from 23 million people. 13 of them will be medicaid covered. they're breaking promise after promise after promise. the president said repeal and replace at the same time. now we have a senator saying repeal. which means we'll instantly take 23 million people out of insurance. it doesn't make sense. despicable 3 me is the number one movie. despicable is what we have in the white house right now, no one ale telling the truth, no one's being honest with the american people on health care
or any other issue you want to talk about. they're not moving our nation forward, they're dividing our nation. when the president of the united states puts out a video, the likes of which he put out earlier today, that's an invitation for violence. it's an invitation to say no one's telling the truth except the president, when just the opposite is the case. >> he tweeted on friday saying, if the senate can't get this repeal and replace through, let's repeal and replace later. it contradicts something he said on the campaign trail. >> there's going to be a period where millions of people could lose -- >> we're going to be simultaneously, it will be just fine. that's what i do, i do a good job. we're going to repeal and replace it. we're not going to have a two
day period or a two year period where there's nothing. it will be repealed and replace, and we'll know, and it will be great health care for much less. >> to be fair he said that when he was president-elect, not yet president. now as president, do you think he's recognizing how difficult this health care overhaul is going to be? >> are you asking me whether i think he's embarrassed? because the answer is no. there's nothing this man has done that will embarrass him. he talks about touching women's genitals, he tells people that they're stupid or that they're bleeding. are you actually asking me whether he feels bad about the promises he's made and he has no intention of keeping? of course he doesn't have any feelings about that. >> as a democrat, your party is sidelined in this process, is there anything other than rhetoric you can use to get
involved in fixing obama care as it starts to cause more and more problems for people. >> i don't think we're sidelined. under the president's plan, 12 to 14% of our people will not have coverage. if that's what you want, you should call your republican senators and say, we want 12, 13, 26% of our brothers and sisters to be without health insurance. because that's what they're promising to deliver to you. they're telling you -- when they actually tell you they want to cut these things. they tell you they want to eliminate them, listen to those folks, do not listen to the president of the united states he's not telling you the truth. he wants to repeal, give billions and trillions of dollars in tax relief to his
richest friends. that's what this is all about pay attention, ladies and gentlemen, not to his twitter account, which he uses to take us in another direction. the agenda is to hurt american people, poor individuals will not benefit under these plans, he's absolutely telling you what he wants to do. >> the former governor of arkansas thinks that health care is ultimately a problem for states to solve. listen to what he said on fox news recently. >> i got a big idea for this. turn most of these decisions over to the individual states. block grant medicaid completely with total flexibility for each state. take some of the other components and say to the individual states. live out the tenth amendment for once, and say, we don't have a federal solution. medicaid in mississippi looks different than it does in massachusetts, let's recognize
that, and let's not try to fix it, because we're not that smart. >> wouldn't that be helpful for your state governor? is that a viable solution? >> you are joking? you heard when he said, let's take the constitution out of this. let's put that aside and do it this way. the reality is, that every american deserves decent health care, and certainly every person in poverty deserves a chance to live, to have access to reasonable health care for themselves their children, their parents. the american people have already decided this. this is the first time in american history that we're talking about taking something away from the american people that we know has worked. i know you have a lot of talking heads and some of them paid by folks to appear on your station and talk about how health care
is feeling, the reason it's failing is because it's under attack by republicans. the president says we won't enforce the law, then of course that upsets the insurance market. of course, companies that write policy in state after state are saying, well, gee, if the president is not going to reimburse us for this, maybe we should pull out of this. this is a mistake by the republican party, but it's intentional. they want to do away with health care for millions of americans. don't listen to dan malloy, listen to the cbo. 23 million people under the senate plan. 24 million people under the house plan. if that's the america you want. if we want to say to 24 or 23 million americans, you're not going to have health care any more, you're going to end up going to the most expensive health care, which is the emergency room, you're not going to be examined on a review basis
or a diagnostic basis for various cancers, if that's the america you want. you got the president you deserve. i have to tell you that. he tweets about this stuff on a regular basis. my grandmother used to say, what would you expect from a pig but a grunt. how do we keep 24 million americans with health coverage so they can get well. >> governor dan malloy of the great state of connecticut, thank you for joining us, we have to leave it there. >> as the president heads to the g-20 to meet vladimir putin face to face, what can we expect from our first meeting? the future isn't silver suits and houses on mars,
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this week president trump will come face to face with the man who tried to meddle with the u.s. election. the two will meet on the sidelines of the g-20 summit in germany. it could be a public relations mind field. the thought of possible collusion with the trumds campaign is looming large. with me to discuss elise lav it. what is the white house hoping to get out of this meet something. >> well, they haven't really said much about the meeting, obviously this will be the first meeting between the two leaders especially since president trump has taken office. his national security adviser has said there is no agenda, it will be based on what the president wants to talk about at the time. you can bet president putin will want to come out of this meeting
that the relationship is back on track. president trump has said he wants better relations with russia, that's what they're both coming out looking for good optics out of the meeting, there's not a lot of preparation going into the white house. putin is undoubtedly preparing for this very carefully, so i think he goes into this meeting with a little bit of an upper hand. >> yeah, the president met with the russian foreign men 12er and russian ambassador in the oval office earlier this year, they looked like they were pretty chummy, they were getting along. is trump expected to be tough on election meddling, are we going to see a hug or something chummier? >> the white house hasn't said whether he's going to talk about that issue in the meeting. i would suspect he won't about
he wants to put that relationship with putin back on track, they have a lot of other issues to discuss. i think everyone would like him to bring up the election meddling. a warning to president putin not to think about doing anything like that again. i think the body language in this meeting is going to be so interesting. as you said, president trump is kind of a hugger, is kind of a real chummy guy. president putin is not like that. i think president trump wants to show that the who men are getting along, president putin wants to show that president trump respects him, i think the body language in that handshake, if it's a photo op or whatever, is going to be the most interesting thing. >> president trump known for his enthusiastic handshakes. we have to leave it there. coming up, we bring you the story of a special needs child who could be one of those most affected by the republican
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she thrived. now her mother is terrified of something else. the republican health care reform plans. rebecca says one of the reasons can charlie has done so well is medicaid. the government health care program helps pay for her care to the tune of about $12,000 a year. >> it's your birthday soon, how old are you going to be? >> five. >> charlie relies on a 2350ed h feeding tube and sees seven different doctors for complications from her extreme maturity. she remembers the moment the house passed its bill. it calls for $843 billion in cuts in medicaid over 10 years. >> it's kind of a punch in the gut, like wow! they're stealing her chance. she's sleeping on me, they're stealing her chance. >> howagery are you that your
representative voted for the health care act? >> i'm newer yous. i feel betrayed, i feel his job as a representative is to speak out in the best interest of his people, and i don't feel as if that was done. >> yes, we are going in here. >> rebecca paid a visit to that congressman, tom garrett. she confronted garrett and a house representative about acha. >> we're going to have to do stuff outsides of it, to make the system as good as -- >> then why did you vote for a plan that you weren't happy with? >> when you get 80% of something, it's better than what you got. >> it's not better. >> it is better. >> cuts to medicaid don't necessarily mean cuts in care. >> the rel aty is, sometimes you can move money and still get a
good outcome. >> she started at one pound 12 ounces, nobody was really sure that she was going to live. yet here she is in front of us. bright, joyful, determined. it breaks my heart that after all that bad policy can just snatch it from her. >> rebecca wants garrett and all lawmakers to know that families like hers work hard. her husband has a job with insurance. but even so, they need help from medicaid because charlie's medical bills are astronomical. back to you. >> the fight over health care and the dilemma for republicans. should they repeal if they can't replace? >> that story next. you're live in the cnn newsroom. that's why we meet or exceed
bind, back home for a short recess, and bracing for constituents reactions to the senate health care bill. it's a bill that doesn't have enough support from republicans to pass, will the gop switchgears and try to repeal obama care now and try to replace it later. some republicans appear to be warming to that idea, big supporters include senators rand paul and ben sass of nebraska. let's discuss with josh rogan and time magazine editor at large. let's start with you repeal now, replace later, is that a gamble for the republican party? >> it's a gamble either way, if they go for the bill they have on the table right now, or they pass something later. if they try to repeal and replace, that's logistically
complicated. nobody has any idea how that's going to happen. that's a gamble for a different set of reasons, what i keep hearing is a third option, a scaled down piecemeal version of the beal, it's a let's take the parts of this health care bill that have brought popularity, that aren't too drastic and peel them off and pass them one by one, stabilize the markets, reduce the taxes, without doing all of the unpopular stuff. that's the goldilocks solution between doing nothing and doing everything neither of which are good options. >> david, do you -- independent senator bernie sanders tells cnn he's rejecting the idea we should repeal now and replace later. listen to this. >> this congressional budget office indicated that if you simply repeal the affordable care act, you will throw 32 million americans off of health insurance.
10% of the population of the united states. for 7 years the republicans have been talking about a repeal mechanism, they haven't agreed yet. if you throw 32 million people off health insurance, what doctors who have studied this issue say, that tens of thousands of people every year will die. >> that was on state of the union with jake tapper. sanders not a middle of the road guy, david. but there are some centrist democrats out there that republicans might be willing to reach out to in case they decide to repeal now and replace later. how would those democrats take that. would they listen? >> i think it's a very unlikely thing that the republicans are going to be bailed out of the mess they're in right now by democrats. the democrats are already looking forward to 2018, i think they're going to give the republicans about as much help
as the republicans gave them in the same situation seven years ago, which is zero. >> josh, back to you. the man in charge of the senate basically, mitch mcconnell, he's not in favor of repealing now does the idea of repealing now and replace later stand chance without him on board? >> no. he has been delegating the management of this policy initiative and this whole idea floated by the president last week again threw a wrench into his party's strategy. in the end we have seen in the president and his team although they are involved, they are not in the weeds of the details. they are not actually ensconced in the mechanics of getting this done. they are just generally trying to push people to support whatever the plan is. it is mitch mcconnell who has to take this thing over the finish line. he has a clear thought about the
way he wants to do that. it is not repeal and replace. he recognizes that would not only be a whole new strategy, that it's not likely to work. he knows that what he is doing now even though it is not pretty has the best chance of making it through the process. >> david, this idea of repeal now and replace later is something that trump himself when he was president-elect said he wanted an immediate replacement. how does this switch now effect the people that voted for republicans to redo or get rid of obamacare? >> it is a real mess. the idea of repealing the affordable care act with nothing to put in its place is for chaos in the health delivery industries, hospitals, insurance companies, doctors, how are they going to get paid?
who are their patients going to be? what is the mix? i can't picture these industries going to their senators and saying that's a great idea. why don't you just upend the legal framework for health care in america and leave us with nothing and you'll get around to it at some later date. so i think this is a case of the president trying to reframe this conversation to his advantage he is kind of on the ropes with the health care promises which were as he has discovered this is a complicated issue, very difficult to legislate. it can't be done overnight and he is trying to i think move the conversation a little bit but i don't think he is serious about this alternative. >> we have to leave it there. thank you so much for joining us this sunday evening. coming up, iraqi christians
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one that keeps you connected to what matters most. some 200 iraqi nationals have been caught up in raids by immigration and customs enforcement agents since may. some of them are in fear for their lives. many are christians and their families fear deportation to iraq means a death sentence at the hands of isis. a federal judge blocked the deportation of over 100 iraqis in michigan but 14 day stay of removal expires this week. in a harsh twist of irony many in this community voted for donald trump. >> reporter: a daughter screaming for her father.
he has just been detained by immigration and customs enforcement, among nearly 200 here targeted for deportation since may. but the difference with some of these detainees say family whose waved to their loved ones from behind the gate is a country they fear they will be sent to, iraq. a war zone where isis terrorizes civilians, executing all those who resist. >> everybody here is scared to death. >> reporter: he is calling his brother from an i.c.e. facility in ohio. he is terrified because he is a christian and in iraq they are an ethnic minority. isis has targeted them marking their homes with red arabic letter proclaiming them a target undergoing what human rights
groups call a genocide. he immigrated when he was 14. at age 21 he was convicted of drug conspiracy charges and served 20 years in prison. since his release he opened this business, pays his taxes and has never been in trouble, not even a single traffic ticket says his brother. federal government agreed to reopen the case to obtain a green card due to the possibility he would be tortured in iraq. >> is this the united states? is this what this country is about? >> reporter: most painful for him like many other christian iraqis he knows in michigan he voted for donald trump. >> people who turn their life around. >> the next hour of cnn newsroom starts right now.
it is the top of the hour. you are live in the cnn newsroom. thank you so much for joining us this weekend as we celebrate our nation's independence. the thing that is grabbing everyone's attention is the oxygen problem at the white house. there is simply not enough to talk about policies and progress made about this administration amid the very important week ahead because president trump for reasons not well explained continues to steer attention away from those things by posting this on twitter. there it is on the president's twitter feed right now. he posted a clip of himself from about ten years ago fake wrestling and fake punching