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welcome to inside politics. i'm john king. thanks for sharing your day with us. president trump is summoning republican senators, you see their bussings heading to the capital. also at the white house just moments ago, the president with his official meeting with his integrity commission. the president says it's critical to investigate widespread election fraud. the president went solo, says it was no big deal, but your
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government wasn't going to tell you it happened and has no official record of what was discussed. up first, the brutal internal finger pointing over health care and this hour's big meeting at the white house. >> let obamacare fail, it will be a lot easier, and i think we're probably in that position, where we'll let obamacare fail, i'm not going to own it. i can tell you that the republicans are not going to own it. >> with us to share their reporting and their insights. a quick table setter for the big white house lunch that's just moments away and our conversations about a tweet this morning that promised the gop health care plan which at the moment does not have a pulse will get evening better at lunchtime.
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that's one of the many things about the president that annoys the republicans, he was elected as a republican, is the leader of the republicans now, yet he routinely speaks of the republicans as they, not we. and you heard him accept no blame for the health care debacle that defines his first six months. a few people at the table are venting at the majority leader mitch mcconnell saying maybe he should go. and a handful of conservative calls that they face primary challenges, those republican incumbents and president trump to meet those challenges. this is a defining moment for the president and the republican party, and at the moment you have this distrust, this infighting, this ideological fight that some thought might end when you had a republican president, it clearly hasn't.
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issue number one, he seems to think if he gets them around the table, he can revive legislation that essentially died yesterday, can he? >> the question i think is how much is the president going to put his back into this effort? because, you know, what we have seen so far and what we have heard from some members is that the president has not seemed committed to pushing this policy, selling this policy and that may have been intentional when he now says that -- they are voting for something unpopular, the president is blaming them for its failure and for general inaction and dysfunction. and then you have conservatives, trying to -- the political problem for the republicans is that donald trump is not on the ballot in 2018, they are. so, you know, i quoted a republican congressman in my article yesterday saying there
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was one thing that could unite the clans, republicans have been divided for a long time on many issues, but a president who's really leading and committed and engaged and trying to bring people together across the spectrum, they have not clean that clearly today. >> a tax reform is -- getting democratic votes and that would also be very complicated if not more so than health care, different but just as complicated. at this moment, when members of his own party saying yesterday, this is not mine. do you have any trust that you're going to cut a difficult deal with this president, that he's going to keep your back? >> he's got a lot of work to do to gain the trust of a republican conference. let's not forget we're not too far away from when he had that republican celebration at the white house and then turned around behind closed doors and
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condemned the -- he'll also go after members of the republican congress, his pac ran ads against dean heller. there was an ad in politico about how about -- he has shown that he will go after his own party and that does not engender a lot of trust. >> we continue the conversation. you're watching a bus out in front of the united states capitol. john mccain is home recuperating from surgery, so 50 have been invited. will jeff flake be across the table from the president today? and if so, will he say something to the president? that's one of the many interesting dynamics. >> one of the things that jeff flake will say is that when
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trump welcomed reporters into the white house yesterday, maybe the solution here is to elect more republicans, he's also going after some republicans so it's kind of hard to square that. where trump falls on this, it's a good question that molly brought up earlier, a lot of people put the blame, he doesn't care about health care policy, the wall street journal and nbc had a poll out yesterday that sheds a little bit more light on this. we looked at the counties that voted for trump. the house health care plan had support from 13% of the people in trump counties, 37% said they opposed to it. so that may also shed a little bit more light on why trump is not so willing to take the reins on this issue. >> my voters don't like this, my people don't like this, i'm going to stick my neck out. however he's a republican
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president, with a slim majority. it's a heavy lift for the democrats, but does the president understand the governing piece of this, that if they fail to pass an issue that's signature to the republican party, and their base stays home next year, he may be a lone republican. he hasn't gotten much signature achievements done in his first six months and he won't get anything done without congress. >> i think they are aware of this, and my understanding is they are working on -- the conservative members, and they are people who live in states that trump won, overwhelmingly in some cases. they're trying to move those people, it's hard to see susan collins getting on board with a
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held care bill. if the president has any power it's in states where he won like in kentucky or utah. >> but they don't like the bill. for different reasons, mike lee thinks it has too much government money. so it depends where you are in the country, where you are on the spectrum. >> there hasn't been a big sales effort on the part of the white house, there hasn't been much of an argument made business the republicans in congress about how this is going to help people. how it is going to be good for people in their everyday lives. instead if there's any positive message for people here, it's that this is good for markets. there's no sense that this is good for human beings. jerry moran is an interesting case, he's not someone you would expect to stick his neck out, and that's representative of the
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median republican senator. he went home, he listened to his constituents in very rural parts of his state and they were very negative. >> just as democrats say about nancy pelosi, you have heard this about paul ryan in the house, we need a change in leadership. it's a very small number of people saying that about mitch mcconnell right now. but the fact that it's being said in this environment, it gets attention. i want you to listen to rand paul, who sometimes has fights with his home state senator, here he says it's not mcconnell's fault, but then listen to the rest. >> i don't think the fault lies with leadership, i think the fault lies with those who promise to repeal and who won't now vote to repeal. as far as i know mcconnell voted to repeal and he will vote to
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repeal if it's brought up. the people who voted for repeal previously an identical bill, and now they're not going to vote for an identical bill? they've got some serious explaining to do when they go home. >> mitsenator mcconnell doesn't want to have a vote on reveal and then replace. that r it doesn't take effect for two years and that gives us time to do the replace, republicans said no way, we're not doing any repeal. can the president change that dynamic and get the republicans to keep their commitment to repeal and then put a clock on them that they then have to replace. >> they haven't been great at meeting deadlines, i think the moderates in particular have reason, good reason to be nervous about this, but let's not put all the weight on the white house for not knowing how
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to govern. you've got a lot of republicans who do not know or never had to abo govern because they have never had a republican president before, so they're used to taking these ceremonial votes that get vetoes and go home and say look, i tried. and now you can actually effect change and they are afraid to do it. to manage the dysfuncti dysfunction this is the -- i won't own it. this is the same guy who in 2012 tweeted the same thing about president obama. republicans stopping president obama are b.s., he request never take responsibility. oh.
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>> he needs to get past this health care issue. to go back for a poll, in the trump counties, of people who said they voted for trump, this health care bill only has 25% support. so the idea that they're going to repeal it. this isn't because these voters think this is ideological, it's because a lot of them are benefiting from these entitlements. it's hard for me to imagine trump pushing to just repeal. there is some bipartisan support in the trump base for other issues, on his foreign policy positions, his economic positions, so if he can get past that, maybe he can appear more like a leader and get something big done. the question on mcconnell and what he can get done, that mcconnell has now delayed the health care debate more timings than paul ryan. >> trump just wants a win, he doesn't really care about what's
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in the bill, he just wants a bill. but mcconnell, does he want repeal and replace? would that be his first choice? does he just want repeal? does he just want an excuse for killing it and being able to say he tried. nobody knows what mcconnell's ideal end game is. some say he just wants to get it over with, and move on to other things. >> and you're still watching the busses there of united states senators, heading to the white house for a luncheon. and husbaddles on white hou grounds and promises to find the facts.
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new icyhot lidocaine patch. if any state does not want to share this information, one has to wonder what they're worried about. and i ask the vice president, i asked the commission, what are they worried about? there's something, there always is. we want to make america great again, we have to protect the integrity of the vote and our voters. >> there's something, there always is, the president of the united states a short time at the white house, that is the first official meeting of an election integrity commission. you might remember after the election is the only reason he lost the popular vote to clinton is that 3 million to 5 million voted illegally. and that is why he wanted to have this commission to find the facts to figure that out and how
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to help states make sure it never happens again. vice president mike pence is the co-chairman of this commission. we all know how it started, but here is mike pence stating the mission. >> let's be clear, this commission has no preordained results, we're fact finders. >> if that's true, that's great, if they're going to help states clean up their voter rolls, help states with the new technology, help states with something that's never been mentioned by this commence, russian hacking, that's fabulous if they do that. but will the critics believe there's no preconceived agenda? >> he's known for pushing voter id laws and controversial ideas like this. also it's interesting to take it in context here, president's commissions highlight problems that are new in the country, it's not irrelevant, it's not
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policy if it's not relevant. the idea that the president is speaking at an event like this and continuing to press the idea that there's some kind of election fraud problems and there are missing voters is problematic that we have no evidence of that and he keeps alluding to that and this morning there were three or four mentions of this problem that experts say doesn't exist. >> it doesn't exist on a large scale. you move from state a to state b, you forgot to tell state a, you're registered in two states, there are people who died years ago but are still on the roles because their family never took them off. there's zero evidence that this happens in the tens of thousands, let alone 3 million to 5 million. >> states run by republicans say, you know, we're good,
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thanks. they take a lot of pride in how they conduct their elections, they said they certified their elections and they're fine and everything was above board. not to mention some of these states have laws that say what data they can actually give to the federal government and what data is private. you would think a voting commission would have done some googling before hand and made note of this but it seems like in this first week -- >> the kansas secretary of state has long said that there's widespread fraud and we don't understand that there are millions undocumented or unregistered voting, even in his own state. so a lot of people think it was done to make a statement, not to get information. >> it just goes to credibility here. what these states are saying is
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they have laws. trump is pushing a commission on integrity and criticizing states for following their laws to not give them the data that he wants, also to the broader point yourpz 345iking before, i don't know about critics, but it's a correct issue, i don't know how he squares voter integrity issues and is not willing to take the russian interference seriously. >> hillary clinton did win the popular vote, president trump won the electoral college, fair and square, that's the way the system workings. he insists he certainly would have won the popular vote if there had not been in widespread illegal voting, he was pressed about it around the super bowl by former fox news host bill o'reilly. >> is there anything validity to the criticism of you that you say things that you can't back up factually and if you say
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there are 3 million illegal aliens who voted, then you don't have the data to back it up, some are going to say that it's irresponsible for the president to say that. >> many people have come out and said i am right. when you see illegals, people who are not citizens and they're on the registration roles. bill, we can be babies, but you take a look at the registration, you have illegals, you have dead people. it's a really bad situation, it's really bad. >> well, in addition to the credibility issue, there is an issue as well of where the president is focusing his attention, right? because you have the president still obsessed with his own legitimacy, still obsessed with reli relitigating the election and its results. when you heard trump talk about this shortly after taking office, you heard the senate say we have bigger fish to fry, we
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have serious issues to address in this country, and this is what the president is spending his time focused on. >> and to your point, to the point that was made earlier, number one, a lot of constitutional conservatives in the republican party says the constitution leaves voting up to the states. the mississippi secretary of state, i just love this state, he said when he got the request for the information, my reply would be that they can go jump in the gulf of mexico, and mississippi is a great state to launch from. and critics saying this is more of a conspiracy theory. th a lot of republican states saying we know how to run elections. we do just fine, but don't say we have all these people fraudulently voting in elections because it's just not true. >> the word illegals. in that clip you showed several
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timings. sometimes people think that illegals meanins latinos. it appears they're going for a base strategy, when you look at the tweets, to a lot of their policy, they're not interested in building the coalition to 50%, but keeping -- >> a lot of critics have said they view this commission has a further view of the president. up next, president trump's undisclosed second meeting with vladimir putin, and new details of his son don jr.'s campaign sit down with russians. olay regenerist hydrates skin better than creams costing over $100, $200, and even $400. fact check this ad in good housekeeping.
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welcome back. yesterday in this hour, cnn reported the identity of that first participant in that first
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meeting between don jr. and the russian -- so did no one in trumpland do even a currency background check? did they not care? even though the campaign chair, president's son-in-law were in that room? >> what we see here is again senior levels of the trump administration and now the trump family not coming clean with information and sent clearly, at least the original intent was to share harmful information about hillary clinton and information that would help donald trump. why was this cast of characters there? >> a lot of people say sometimes these questions are partisan, but i think this is a fair question, why was this cast of
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characters there? >> we don't know, but the one thing we did find out about this eighth person that was in the room, was this is something that the special counsel robert mueller is looking into in connection with this cast of character as you call it. so we know this is one of the many facets of that ongoing investigation, there's so much we don't know, there's new wrinkles all the time. but i have to believe that, the special counsel investigation ask not the source of the leaks that we have gotten so far about different revelations having to do with the russia issue. if this is what we know publicly, we can only imagine what the special counsel is finding in his not yet revealed investigation. >> hilla >> -- as to vetting these evacuation, it's highly unlikely these folks were vetted.
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they didn't follow normal protocol in bringing them in in the first place, it's unclear to me if even jared kushner was even vetted before being brought into the administration. it's unlikely that they would vet people coming into trump tower at the height of the campaign. >> so a russian lawyer reaches out to don jr. and says i have information i got from the russian government, and they get a meeting at trump tower, and if the president's son wanted to do this, there's been a lot of conservatives saying he doesn't get the sensitivity of the politics and maybe intellectually he didn't understand the idea of meeting with russian people, but you bring in paul manafort, a serious player in past campaigns, jared kushner, who is a neophyte when it comes to politics, but a candidate who might be president of the united states, did nobody say we should
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vet somebody that we're meeting in trump tower with? >> paul manafort is not only a political operative, he's also got some good knowledge about the ukraine and russia. >> we kndo know they have had a week to talk about this, so having us talk about it and hype it up for them, it would be smart for them to just get it out about this meeting, here's who was there, here's what we talked about. here's our version, stories straight. >> when it comes to jeff sessions meeting with the russian ambassador, may have been nothing, but they didn't disclose them. marco rubio says the same thing, tired of being asked about this, says maybe the trump team should
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put it all together and get it all out. >> maybe they should get together and put it all out instead of being asked about it every single day. >> if you just figure it out, sit down, get everybody to give you their diaries, pull out what happened at the meetings so you don't have the drip, drip, drip. >> people are backing away from defending the trump campaign, because when they have defended the trump team, the rug has been pulled out from under them. and n trump said there was no contact between russians and the trump campaign and then it was found out that there was contact.
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>> something else we learned yesterday is that the president of the united states had a second extended conversation at the g-20. we now have learned that at the dinner, he went over to vladimir putin. first melania trump sat next to vladimir putin at the dinner. he spent merely an hour with vladimir putin, with no other american official with him. putin's translator, mputin and the president of the united states. go online, it just doesn't happen that way. ronald reagan wouldn't do it. bill clinton wouldn't do it. barack obama, it just doesn't happen that way. the dinner discussion re -- an american president seeming to single out the russian leader for special attention. at a summit meeting that
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included some of the united states staunchest, oldest allies. number one domestically, you know all the questions about the president, the campaign, the allegations of collusion, the investigations of potential obstruction, first he has a two hour and 15 minute meeting. then you do it again. so to the domestic audience, this is trump saying, i don't care, i'm going to try to be friends with putin. and then to the europeans, we don't like what president putin is doing in the ukraine, we need your help here. >> clearly he didn't mean to isolate them in conversation, because apparently trump actually went up to putin, not the other way around. one of the fears from the
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national security community and even from inside the white house go going into the meeting with putin, this is something that the president would go off the cuff, the president would say something that he shouldn't. that's one of the reasons the meeting was so structured going into it. and the united states does not have a record of this meeting because he chose to go it alone. the only record that exists is on the russian side of the ledger. all of these things are very problematic because we don't know what was said, because it could have been small talk, or something more important. >> the president could have told us, how hard did he talk about russian meddling. how close is he to vladimir putin. the president swetweeted that i sick, all this fake news media, is the president a meeting with the president of the russian
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federation. >> there is a bill that puts harsher sanctions on russia, passed the senate with 98 votes, currently languishing in the house for eight months. the white house is against 12 this bill, not because they're opposed to sanctions, but because it ties the president's hands in diplomacy. but if that bill gets to the president's desk. but if he has to do something for his buddy vladimir or not. >> these compounds were seized, with obama and their sanctions. if the trump administration starts blocking this bill, people are going to say what does putin have on him. >> up next, mark this down as a broken promise, or at least a promise delayed. the iran nuclear deal, very much
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intact, six month into an administration who promised to rip it up.
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that agreement has to be changed. we have no choice. >> they have so outnegotiated our people. because our people are babies, they have no idea what they're doing. they will find out if i win that we're not babies. first of all they need people who negotiate like kerry because kerry doesn't have a clue. >> i will be so tough on them and ultimately that deal will be broken unless they behave better than they have ever behaved in their lives which is probably unlikely. >> my number one priority is to dismantle the disastrous deal with iran. >> most people hate the iran
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nuclear deal. but twice now again just this week, trump has certified that iran is keeping its end of the bargain. and i ran almost -- almost isn't good enough for security hawks. and the white house says maybe things will go the other way at the next deadline. >> you know what the campaign pledge was, right? it was rip it up. >> how does this white house address that comment now? >> by exactly what we're doing right now. we're not committed to any more recertifications of this deal in the future. this is the thing, it's a technical requirement on a bad deal that which inherited, that we didn't close, remember, this is the obama regime get a deal. >> sorry mr. gorka, yes, the obama administration negotiated the deal, that's a fact. they have twice certified iran
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in compliance. now sebastian gorka knows the conservative criticism, and he says next time maybe we won't. >> this is part of the ongoing series of things look different when you're actually in the white house. it was apparently a multiway tie. and even the attempts at renegotiating have not gone anywhere to date. you know, the iran deal is interesting because it does provoke a lot of people who are conservative. it's not of course the people in the middle. you heard trump in that clip saying the only way we would keep it is if they are behaving perfectly, better than they have ever behaved, in fact the administration has said that they violated the spirit of the deal. >> the obama deal is in place, the iran deal is in place, but he shredded the last remaining credibility of the main stream
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media. >> to your point, i understand, there are many thing and running for president is very different than being president. you see this from every president. they run saying they're going to do things like close guantanamo bay, if you're barack obama and he didn't. you got vice president pence, i just want to read from you the national review op-ed. the schizophrenic policy is ultimately unsustainable. there is no reason why the frump administration should bolster the iranian deal. my question is, when you're six months in, next year will be the midterm election year, when you have the policy hawks voicing
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their displeasure. can the approximately put together the pieces, he inherited this, a lot of this was fractured before he took office. today it's foreign policy, then we have tax reform and health care, and this fracturing of his own party. >> imagine the fight is between the administration mcmaster, who say stick with this now, because this is a foreign policy decision, not that it's a campaign promise. this is like the paris deal, where it might annoy people in washington, it might even bolster his base, i think he can do this in the next two years. >> the iran deal, everything being how it is now, in the midterm elections, it's going to
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be the health care issue, if they're not able to do that, it's going to depress voters who would normally come out. >> the trump transition team should have identified abrogating the deal as one of the incoming administration's highest policy priorities, the administration itself has already shown the courage of its convictions by withdrawing from the paris climate accords. up next, summer pastimes and chris christies, maybe they don't get along, first the beach, now baseball. make sure they're producing. woo! employee of the month! you really shouldn't leave their side. vita coco coconut water, hydration comes naturally. (hard exhalation) honey? can we do this tomorrow? (grunts of effort)
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811 is available to any business our or homeownerfe. to make sure that you identify where your utilities are if you are gonna do any kind of excavation no matter how small or large before you dig, call 811. keep yourself safe. welcome back. yes, hard to believe sometimes, but politicians are people too, just like you and i on a july night, what do you do?
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just like chris christie, you go to a ball game. >> just noticed him. boy, are you hot? >> christie right there showing that he can catch a ball, but he can't catch a break. >> nice to see him get from the beach here to the ballpark. >> at least he gave it to a kid, you know? >> a little shot there going to christie. i think christie took some hot water for going to the beach on fourth of july. he gives the ball to a kid and he gets flack, why? >> he's the least popular governor in the country, and he's worked hard to get it that way. when you've just been caught at the closed beach, and people y
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say -- >> hi should just be a guy who catches a ball and gives it to a kid. >> that is part of the national pass time. >> and christie is in the news again, he's been in the news a lot lately, there's a new book, called the devil's barking, he talks about a call he got on election night. donald trump is a known ge germophobe. trump says, hey, you know my bleeping number, i don't want your bleeping phone. this is donald trump then candidate or president-elect by the end of the night, being a germophobe not wanting to use the governor's cell phone.
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this was the big falling out. >> that moment and in the days that followed, he wound up going from being in charge of the transition and maybe ticketed for a job like attorney general, some high level job in the trump administration, to being completely on the outs, sent back to new jersey. >> really? >> man, tough crowd. >> it is one of the enduring mysteries of the whole trump-christie bromance. this is the first governor to endorse. even when he took a lot of flack especially back home for it. and then he gets nothing. and then you hear people saying no, no, he stayed out on purpose, he didn't want anything. it just shows how far apart they have grown. >> the white house has begun it's lunch with the republican senators. the president says he remains ready to act, i have a pen in
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call 811. keep yourself safe. hi there, i'm breeaianna ker in for wolf blitzer. it's 7:00 p.m. in hamburg, germany and 8:00 p.m. in moscow right now. we're watching major developments on two stories right now. the future of health care reform is on the menu during the luncheon at the white house right now. the president brought 50 senators to the white house after the failure of the gop health care bill. he said that the gop senators must keep their promise to america. and the meeting between

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