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a wild week in washington. reince priebus resigns. >> the president wanted to go a different direction. >> and homeland security deputy john kelly takes his place. >> one of our stars. john mccain's thumbs down tanks the health care bill. >> boy, oh, boy, can you believe that? >> can the republicans rally after that loss? >> no party can remain in power lying to the american people. >> senator susan collins joins me in minutes. and democrats battle back. >> i hope we can work together to make the system better. >> can democrats use this victory? >> we are back! >> to strengthen their party's
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agenda? senator bernie sanders is live on what comes next. hello. i'm jake tapper where the state of our union is tense after a friday staffing shakeup, secretary and retired marine general john kelly is fewer than 24 hours away from officially starting his new job as white house chief of staff. one of his first orders of business could be dealing with an international crisis just hours ago. the u.s. military announced a successful test of its thaad missile defense system not long after flying u.s. bombers over the korean penies la, in response to a ballistic missile launch friday by north korea. meanwhile the president taking aim at china, saying he's very disappointed in that country. quote, we will no longer allow this to continue. china could easily solve this problem." all of this is sure to make for an interesting job for john kelly. plus the health care bill
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the president insists is still alive. joining me now is the director of office of management and budget, former congressman mark mulvaney. thank you for being on with us. >> thanks for having me, as always. >> i want to ask about some of the white house personnel issues. when general anklecy sworn in on monday as white house chief of staff, will all staff members immediately begin reporting to him? >> i don't know. i answer to the chief of staff. and i will continue to do that. the office of management and budget actually reports directly to the chief of staff. obviously, we answer to the president, as everybody does in the west wing. but as far as i know, my reporting doesn't change. nor do i have any reason for it to change. we'll continue to do our business at omb the same way we did last week. i think we're doing some good work and look forward to continuing that under general kelly's leadership. >> one of the reasons i'm asking is because some of the people who have worked at the white house or work continuously at the white house say that because there are so many different power centers and people who seemingly have equal status to the chief of staff, it can be
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confusing. that's one of the reasons for the chaos. so, for instance, do you happen to know if anthony scaramucci, the new communications director, who came on board reports directly to the president will have to report to john kelly, any idea? >> i've seen those same reports and recognize that narrative is out there. all i know is that it's very clear what we do at omb and that's not going to change. i can't really speak to the other reporting within the white house. >> let me return to health care. following this week's collapse of efforts to repeal obamacare and on occasion row place it, senate majority leader mitch mcconnell said he's willing to move on to other issues. president trump seems stuck on the issue, tweeting about it all week long including this morning. unless republican senators are total quitters repeal and replace are not dead. demand another vote before voting on any other bill. is this official white house policy, that nothing should be voted on in congress, not even the debt ceiling before the
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senate votes again on health care? >> yes. and i think what you're seeing there is the president simply reflecting the mood of the people. poll the american public and find out what the most important issue is to them right now and it's health care. in the white house's view, they can't move on in the senate. in the people's view, they should move on in the senate, stay, work, figure out a way to solve this problem. keep in mind, you're talking about something they promised to do for seven years. you can't promise folks you're going to do something for seven years and then not do it. in addition to this policy consideration, you do have obamacare. it is failing. it is hurting people. to not change it allows that to go forward. that's a policy consideration. at the same time you have the political consideration that you promised folks you would do this for seven years. you cannot go back on that. yes, they need to stay, work, pass something. that's not only official white house position on this right now, it's sort of the national attitude towards it. >> well, their polls indicate that the american people, plurality of them, support obamacare. i don't want to get into a whole
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discussion of what the american people want. i do want to ask you about a tweet that president trump sent out saturday that was kind of cr cryptic. bailouts for insurance companies and bailouts for members of congress will end very soon. on the bailouts for insurance companies, i'll get to that in a second. is the president threatening to cut off funding for the health insurance plans, for members of congress? is that what that means? bailouts for members of congress? >> i talked to the president at length about that exact issue yesterday. his attitude is pretty simple. keep in mind, he does have this way of channeling a large number of the american public. what he's saying is, look, if obamacare is hurting people, and it is, then why shouldn't it hurt insurance companies and, more importantly perhaps for this discussion, members of congress. there is a certain benefit that members of congress get as part of an opm decision a couple of years ago. the president is simply looking that the going, is it fair that obamacare is hurting people if you live in a county that is
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what we call a bare county with no coverage, if you're obliged by law to buy something that is not available and that's hurting you, should insurance companies and members of congress bear some of that burden as well? i'm familiar with that issue. we'll see what happens as we move forward. >> that's on the chopping block, perhaps taking away the health care plans, health insurance plans for members of congress. would he target staff members for this as well? >> back up for a second. you don't take away coverage for members of congress. they're obliged by law to participate in the exchanges. i did when i was a member of the congress. there's also a decision from the office of personnel management that allowed a special exemption to the rules on employer contributions to those plans. it's not a concept of taking coverage away. it's the approach of actually obliging members of congress to follow the exact law that the folks that they govern are following. >> so, forcing them on to the
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obamacare exchanges? >> they are already on the exchanges. let's make that clear. all that stuff you read on the internet that congress exempted themselves from obamacare is not right. when i was a member of the congress i had to be on the exchanges. the special exemption dealt with the employer contribution, how much your employer, when you're a member of congress that's the federal government, can contribute to your coverage. that's the rule that the president was talking about in his tweet yesterday. >> lastly, sir, are you optimistic that general kelly, secretary kelly will bring a discipline to the white house that is needed? >> absolutely. i think that's why he's there. take reince at his word. i don't think he's hiding the ball on this at all. the president wanted to change directions, wanted to go in a different way than the way that office was managed. i think he was terribly effective but was probably more laid back and independent in the way he ran the office. i think the president wants to go a different direction, wants more discipline, little more structure in there. he enjoys working with generals. we have several in the administration doing
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extraordinary jobs. the president likes that. i simply think you saw him say let's try a different direction when it comes to chief of staff. i'm actually looking forward to working with john kelly. he has tremendous homeland security secretary. >> always good to have you. thank you for joining us this morning. >> thanks, jake. a week of infighting and drama ends in resignation of chief of staff reince priebus. will the general get things in order? stay with us. across the country, we walk. carrying flowers that signify why we want to end alzheimer's disease. but what if, one day, there was a white flower for alzheimer's first survivor? what if there were millions of them? join us for the alzheimer's association walk to end alzheimer's. register today at alz.org/walk. ykeep you sidelined.ng
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welcome back to "state of the union." i'm jake tapper. senator john mccain in the wee hours of the morning voting no
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on the republicans' latest plan to repeal and replace obamacare. his no vote, along with two other republicans, murkowski and collins, was enough to squash the bill. >> they should have approved health care last night but you can't have everything. boy, oh, boy. they've been working on that one for seven years. can you believe that? the swamp. >> joining me now one of the three republican senators who voted no on that legislation, senator susan collins of maine. thank you so much for joining us. >> my pleasure, jake. >> so, senator, before i get to policy, i just have to ask, i saw this viral video of you getting off an airplane in bangor, maine, and a crowd of people spontaneously and organically applauding you. i don't know if that happens to you every time you get off an airplane in bangor, maine, but it was a pretty wrarkable thing. what is the response you're getting? >> it really was so
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extraordinary, heartwarming and affirming. i got off the plane and there was a large group of outbound passengers, none of whom i happen to know, and spontaneously, some of them started applauding and then virtually all of them started to applaud. it was just amazing. i've never had that happen in the 20 years that i've been privileged to serve in the senate. so, it was very encouraging and affirming, especially arriving back home after a very difficult time. >> very difficult time, very contentious time. president trump, as you know, is hoping to revive the effort to repeal and replace obamacare. he needs the vote of one more senator in order to flip someone's vote, whether yours, murkowski's, mccain's. the president appears to be threatening to cut off funding for health care plans that the members of congress receive. would that kind of pressure change your vote?
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>> no, but, you know, the ball is really in our court right now. there are serious problems with the aca. we're seeing collapsing markets in some areas of the country where even though people have subsidies, they're not going to be able to buy an insurance policy. so, our job is not done. and what we need to do is to remember my friend, lamar alexander's words. he says that congress doesn't do comprehensive well. we need to go back to committee, to the health committee, the finance committee, identify the problems, carefully evaluate possible solutions through hearings and then produce a series of bills to correct these problems. the most serious of which is the pending collapse of the insurance markets. and i certainly hope the administration does not do anything in the meantime to
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hasten that collapse. >> as you note, the president is also threatening to cut off what he calls bailouts for insurance companies, presumably referring to the payments the government makes to insurance companies to reduce the costs for low-income americans. the trump administration has threatened to withhold this money before, which has led to uncertainty among insurance providers. if president trump were to officially withdrawal that funding, would that affect your vote on health care? >> it would not affect my vote on health care. but would set an example of why we need to act, to make sure that those payments, which are not an insurance company bailout, but rather help people who are very low income, afford their out-of-pocket costs towards their deductibles and their co-pays.
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so it really would be detrimental to the most vulnerable if those were cut off. they're paid to the insurance companies but the people that they benefit are people who make between 100% and 250% of the poverty rate. so, we're talking about low income americans who would be devastated if those payments were cut off. the threat to cut off those payments has contributed to the instability in the insurance market. but what congress needs to do is to start by the first bill that we should consider is how to stabilize the market. and that is a key component to ensure that those payments continue to be made to benefit low-income americans. >> you are one of three republican senators to vote against the so-called skinny
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repeal of obamacare. when did you realize that senator john mccain was going to join you and lisa murkowski? and what was said to you when he tapped you on the back? >> he gave an extremely eloquent speech the day before when he arrived back from arizona, after his devastating diagnosis with brain cancer. and he called for a return to the regular order, where we would work together across the aisle to produce legislation. it has been my experience as well that that is what works best and produces sound legislation. so, given this dramatic and heartfelt speech. but it was only date of the vote, just a few hours before the vote that i realized from my conversations with him that he was going to vote no.
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vice president mike independence originally came over to break the tie that most people anticipated was going to happen when lisa murkowski of alaska and i voted no. instead, the vice president ended up coming over to lobby john mccain directly, to try to get him to vote yes. i was talking with john and i felt a tap on my shoulder and it was the vice president and he said to me, boy, are you tough. but he softened that by putting his arm around me. he has always been extremely courteous in his conversations with me. he then started talking with john. we were reminiscing in some ways, and then it was obvious he wanted to have a private conversation with john about the bill. so i step add side and did not participate in that part of the bill. i was very proud of john. once again, he showed the courage that he has demonstrated
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throughout his life to do the right thing. even when it's not popular, even when it's hard. >> the health care bill is just one of many moments of drama in the last week. there's been a tremendous amount of infighting at white house. the president attacking his own attorney general, communications director attacking the now former chief of staff and the president senior strategist. is this affecting the president's ability to get his agenda passed on capitol hill? >> it doesn't really affect the president's agenda. as i said, i really think that the health care bill, and i think a series of bills will be in our court now. i don't think it's helpful to the president's agenda.
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i certainly hope that his new communications director strikes a different tone than he has in his first week on the job. >> when the president tweets, do you consider those tweets to be policy or should they be ignored in the way the pentagon seems to be, in a way, treating his tweet about banning transgender people? he tweeted that but we don't have any policy so we're going to keep on as we're going. how do you take the president's tweets? >> i personally don't think that governing or setting policy by tweet is a wise approach. it creates confusion. i do understand why it's attractive to the president to be able to get his message out. but when it comes to an issue that has widespread
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implications, whether it's health care or transgender issue for our military, i don't think a tweet is the right way to go. i think he should have a serious policy discussion with his cabinet, with those who are responsible for implementing policy because then there's much more clarity in how to proceed. that would be my advice to the president but i know he's very fond of twitter. >> senator susan collins, thank you. we appreciate it. >> thank you. he celebrated the collapse of the health care bill as a victory for the american peechlt is senator bernie sanders willing to compromise on a bill going forward? he joins us live next. when heartburn hits fight back fast with new tums chewy bites. fast relief in every bite.
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call or go to xfinitymobile.com introducing xfinity mobile. a new kind of network designed to save you money. welcome back to "state of the union." i'm jake tapper. president trump is threatening to withhold in retaliation. joining me now, senator bernie sanders of the great state of vermont. let's just plunge into health care. threatening on twitter both lawmakers and insurance companies on saturday, saying he's prepared to cut off the quote, bailout that you and the insurance companies receive. what do you make of these threats? >> you know, i really think it's incomprehensible that we have a president of the united states that wants to sabotage health care in america, make life more
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difficult for millions of people struggling now to get the health insurance they need and to pay for that health insurance. maybe the president should put down his -- stop his twittering -- tweeting for a while and understand that america today is the only country, only major country on earth not to guarantee health care to all people and the solution is not to throw tens of millions of people off of health insurance that they currently have. >> what do you make of the threats directly at members of congress about your health insurance, mick mulvaney was on the show earlier, trying to explain exactly what the threat meant. >> i would turn that around a little bit and say to the president of the united states that, yes, every single american in every state in this country should be able to get the health care that members of congress have. and that is why if we are able to return to regular order, if we are able to have a serious debate on the health care
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crisis, i think there should be a public option available at every state in this country. if people don't like the private insurance they're getting, if it's too expensive. they should have a medicare type public option available in every state in this country. and that's one of the ways forward. >> when you were on the program july 2nd you told me you would introduce a singer payer health care plan literally as soon as we were through with the health care debate. it seems as though we're through and the effort has collapsed. are you going to introduce singsin single payer? >> of course we are. we're tweaking the final points of the bill and we're figuring out how we can mount a national campaign to bring people together. here is where we are, jake. it's important for americans to understand this. we are the only major country not to guarantee health care to all people. 28 million people who are uninsured, millions of people
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paying deductibles and co-payments that are far too high. had republicans gotten their way, there would have been another 30, 32 million people thrown off health insurance. that is crazy. what we should to is move in the direction of every other major country, guarantee health care as a right not a privilege. second thing is to ask ourselves a very simple question, which my republican friends and the president does not. why is it that in america, per capita, we are spending far more on health care than the people of any other country. why are we paying, by far, the highest prices in the world for prescription drugs compared to people all over the world? those are the issues we've got to tackle. the answer is pretty obvious. what we have now is a health care system not designed to guarantee health care to all of our people in a cost-effective way. what we have is a dysfunctional, complicated health care system designed to make as much profit as possible for insurance companies and drug companies. and you have incredible -- go
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ahead. >> i want to get into single payer just a quick note, 32 million figure that the senator is referring to is from a congressional budget office study is what happens if obamacare is repealed with no replacement. it was attempted in your home state of vermont and it didn't work because they couldn't get the funding because it would be too expensive, the democratic governor said. recently it failed in california as well. democrats again not able to come up with a way to pay for it. these are cobalt blue states, vermont and california, where people wanted single payer and there were problems because it would cost too much. how do you make it national if you can't even get it in vermont or california? >> no, no, no, no. jake, let's be careful about this. a single payer health care, in
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my view and from what studies i've seen, would save money. sometimes republicans confuse the issue saying you'll pay more in taxes. what they forget to tell you, if you are a family of four paying $15,000, $20,000 a year in private health insurance, you're not going to be paying that at all. once again, if you look at canada single payer health care system per capita, their costs are far, far less than the united states. if you look at the uk, countries around the world, all of which have different approaches to a national health care system in every instance, they are spending substantially less per capita than we spend in the united states, substantially less for prescription drugs. the problem with our system is it is so complicated for the consumer, for the doctors. a hospital, for example, might be dealing with 15, 20, 30 different insurance policies. it takes an enormous amount of
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time, energy and expense to figure out that you have a $5,000 deductible, you have a $10,000 deductible. the goal simply is to say that every person in this country through a single payer system is entitled to a comprehensive health care approach and that will save substantial sums of money in lower prescription costs, profiteering of the drug companies. by the way, the five top drug companies in 2015 made $50 billion in profit. the ceos in the health care industry make enormous salaries. we should join the rest of the world, begin that discussion immediately. and i will be introducing legislation to do just that. >> why couldn't this happen in vermont then? what's the issue in vermont? vermont would seem to be a perfect test case. >> well, this is -- politically, this is difficult. by the way, in california, the
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debate is not over. it passed, i think, the senate. it's now gone to the house. and that debate will continue. look, taking on the insurance companies and the drug companies, taking on wall street and very powerful forces that make billions of dollars a year from the current health care system is not going to be easy. and it's not going to take place until millions of people get involved in this struggle and appreciate the fact that whether you're rich or whether you are poor, health care is a right -- the idea that the republicans wanted to throw 32 million people off of health insurance, cut medicaid by $800 billion, raise premiums for older workers, defund planned parenthood, make it almost impossible for people who have pre-existing conditions get the health care they need. that is abominable, moving in exactly the wrong direction. we need a serious discussion about a serious issue. and i believe at the end of the day, the american people will
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conclude that medicare is working now for people 65 or older. let's expand it to everyone. >> you were asked recently about the possibility of running for president again in 2020. you said, quote, i'm not taking it off the table. august 31st you'll be back in iowa city, to promote your book. are you testing the waters for 2020? is this still possible you'll run for president? >> hard to believe, jake -- one of the things i always get a kick out of is that in canada they have elections, i think it is, two months. in the uk it's shorter than that. i'm dealing with enormous issues in the state of vermont. it's not just health care. it's trying to create an economy that works for all americans not just the 1%. it's developing a tax system that does not give huge tax breaks to the wealthiest people in this country, dealing with
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climate change, transforming our energy system. those are the issues that i and other members of congress should be dealing with right now. three years before the presidential election. we've got plenty of time for candidates or potential candidates to make decisions. >> i'm going to take that as a yes, it's still on the table. senator bernie sanders, appreciate t thank you so much for your time. >> thank you very much. another week, another top white house staffer loses his job. are we sure this isn't the apprentice? how a flashy and occasionally foul mouthed west wing newcomer won the power struggle. the mucch is loose next. more than one flavor, or texture, or color. a good clean salad is so much more than green. and with panera catering, more for your event. panera. food as it should be. bounty is more absorbent,mom" per roll so the roll can last 50% longer than the leading ordinary brand. so you get more "life" per roll.
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when i said we were brothers from the podium, that's because we're rough on each other. some brothers are like cain and abel. >> i guess we now know which one is cain and which one is abel. michael caputo, let me start with you. so, i guess scaramucci won this fight between he and reince priebus. >> i'm from new york. i'm involved in new york politics. it's a rough and tumble place. you fight and then you make up. it happens all the time. the new york culture is a little unusual for the white house, i guess. but strap in. we've got three more years of this. you're going to see more new york culture. >> it does seem like in some ways, that this is -- if you look at the white house with different power centers, there's the family power center, the new york power center, the nationalist power center and the establishment power center. it looks like the establishment, the rnc folks, are really on their way out. >> it seems to be that way. it's tough to do the criminology
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on this. the very fact we're doing now -- >> i don't know that they would appreciate that term. >> pun totally intended. that's the smaller issue. the bigger issue is, will it change? will we get out of the business trying to decide which faction is killing another faction in something that is supposed to operate very efficiently? a new chief of staff, that will be the question. will anything change? and will the commitments that general kelly probably got from the president, you will really be in charge, mean anything? will it stand up? >> congressman, mick mulvaney said earlier in the show that he hope this is retired marine general will be able to bring discipline to the white house that reince priebus, through all his strengths, was maybe a little bit more laid back and independent. >> jake, it won't matter. whether it's general kelly, reince priebus, scaramucci, the reason it's failing is not the staff but the president himself. this is like rearranging deck chairs on the titanic. the president lies, makes
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shocking comments on twitter. things are not going to change. >> congresswoman you said something about general kelly that was a bit controversial. i want to give an opportunity for everybody to discuss it and for you to defend it. by putting general john kelly in charge, president trump is militarizing the white house and putting our executive branch in the hands of an extremist. first of all, there are those who say -- people who served in the military should be able to integrate back into society. second of all, why is he -- perhaps most importantly, why do you think he's an extremist? >> sure. let me first say, i come from a military family. my dad served in world war ii, in korea. and so i respect and honor the military and recognize the sacrifices that all of our military men and women make as well as general kelly and his history and his sacrifices. what i'm talking about is his tenure as homeland security secretary and the very extreme policies of promoting family dislocation, deportation of innocent men and women and children, breaking up families,
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promoting a muslim ban, promoting a wall between the united states and mexico. those are extreme policies. and so this is very troublesome to me, to are this kind of power now centralized in the white house because these are very serious matters and extreme policies. coming from a military family, i recognize and honor the service men and women of our country. >> you know, original trump backers gave reince priebus a chance because he earned it on the campaign trail. he was a real asset to the president. we've had six months of this and we're all very hopeful, those of us who backed trump from the beginning, that general kelly can do a better job of martialing the white house and the president himself of selling, like he did on the campaign trail. general kelly, i'm a vet and i can tell you that i believe that the trump culture is going to respond very well to this. i worked at the convention. in the president's office, run
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by ryan price, combat vets. there were zero leaks, no infighting and strict chain of command. i think the trump culture will respond well to this. i'm looking forward to seeing the changes that the general will bring. >> the problem is the trump culture. see, the president didn't fire the chief of staff because donald trump is the chief of staff. reince hasn't had any power in there since about day 31. the question is, can kelly change trump? does trump even want to be changed? if so, yes, we could have a more effective white house but the keystone cop culture created by one guy, he fuels it, all these people with walk-in privileges. everybody's favorite calling card is i report directly to the president. respect to congresswoman about militarization, we could use a little chain of command to make this place function. >> there's another culture problem. i served in active duty in the military and certain values were drilled into us, integrity, loyalty, accountability. it's really hard for general kelly in long term to work for a
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boss who shows such great disdain for these value. >> i worked as an intern, staffer now member of congress. i've been there through five administrations and have never seen such chaos and confusion. i have to tell you, i'm quite concerned about the foul language and profanity coming from the white house that our children are hearing. what do they think? what do they believe? for me it's very troubling. you know, the president, cyber bullying, for example, his attorney general, that's wrong. and it just seems what congressman liu said is correct, it has to start at the top. hopefully the president will see he needs some stability for the good of the country. >> vanity in washington, color me shocked. i'm just amazed. >> i want to read something to you from ""the wall street journal"." conservative but fair to say they haven't been the biggest supporters of president trump. i don't think they think he's a conservative, for one. house editorial called "priebus wasn't the problem," this
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shuffling of the staff furniture won't matter unless mr. trump recognizes that the problem isn't mr. priebus. it's him. >> do you think that white house chief of staff kelly, general kelly, whatever you want to call him, will be able to go into the president's office, oval office and say, mr. president, please stop tweeting? or if you're going to tweet, let's have a discussion before you do it. it is an official message and it is undermining what we are trying to do. >> i've known the president for quite a while now, several years. he responds very, very well to flag officers. it's a group of people that he's very respectful of. i think if he and general kelly sat down, he certainly had a conversation like mike said, and i trust that the president is going to stand by whatever commitments he made to the general. this white house could use a marine officer in charge. we all agree about this. i think we're going to see some good things. >> the huge question here, though, is if kelly got that commitment -- i agree, military guys intimidate the president a
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little bit. the only beach he landed on was at studio 54. he sees the brass and respects it. the question, how will kelly test the president? >> dating yourself with that reference. >> old references, my specialty. buster keaton was really -- but the point is, kelly, he didn't get four star marines by not knowing strategy. he has to test it right away. i'm going to put jared's security clearance on suspension until he's clear not only to see if trump meant it, an uphill battle about having that power but two, to show washington incorporated somebody is in charge that they can do business with. he has to prove it. he has a quick window to test it right now when the president might actually let him be in charge or this is all just cosmetic and it doesn't mean anything. >> congressman, you're not a supporter of the president. if you were, just as an american who wants the president -- presumably you want the drama to stop and the actual business of governing to be more efficient.
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what advice would you give the president? >> i remember watching the president's joint address to congress. afterwards, i thought, you know, doesn't make democrats' jobs harder. i thought he gave a good address. as an american, i feel better. i want him to go back to that. i want him to make america proud. i think he should listen to his advisers and show some interest in legislation. he has shown no interest in substance of these bills. >> congresswoman, listen to this, from peggy noonan, another "wall street journal" editor. problem as a leader is not that he's impetus, brass or naive. it's not that he's inexperienced, crude an outsider. it's because he is weak and
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sniveling. >> that's harsh. >> people are struggling out there. he needs to work with us to reduce the cost of prescription drugs, to actually develop a plan for skills and workforce training and education so people can get jobs of the 21st century. you know, people need help in terms of the basic standard of living. so, he should work to help us do that. creating infrastructure plan. you know, create economic growth and still live below the provrity time. >> a lot of them are -- we really watched the repeal and replace and of obama care.
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i republican supporters of president trump want repeal and replace. if they pant to leigh it status quo, they're going to pay at the ballot box. there's nothing wrong with this presidency or the republican congress that 3% to 4% couldn't fix. >> some are hoping donald trump's next job might on be on the dance floor.
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read in the paper was true, maybe dancing with the stars? >> sure sean spicer attempts to dance around reporters yeses. >> we're going to raise our hands like big boys and girls. >> but can you span the actual dance floor on "dancing with the stars" now that anthony scaramucci has been sworn in. a little creativity, perhaps. if he does do "dancing with the stars," maybe his parter will be rick perry but odds are if he does put on his dancing shoes.
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. this is gps, the global public square. welcome to all of you in the united states and around the world. i'm fareed zakaria coming to you live from new york. today the white house in disarray. warring with the attorney general, leakers and senators. what does all this mean for policy, from health care to gender issues in the military and what does the world make of this circus? >> and america's new

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