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>> i think the president wants to go in a different direction, a little more discipline. enjoys working with generals. >> i'm a protocol pecking order kind of gal. >> and will a reset at 1600 mean a restart with health care? >> we have a president of the united states who wants to sabotage health care in america. >> this system has failed. that's what the president is saying and that's why he is demanding that congress act. >> then, the u.s. conducts a successful missile defense test as the threat of north korea intensifies. >> i make it as a clear and present danger. i'm convinced that north korea has never moved at the speed that this leader has. >> all ahead in the "cnn newsroom." all right. thanks so much for being with me this sunday. i'm fredricka whitfield. president trump hits the reset button hours from now homeland security secretary and retired general john kelly takes the reins at the new white house chief of staff.
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with so much seeming turmoil and chaos in the white house, will kelly be able to keep the president on message, and help calm west wing tensions? and speculations swirls over what kelly's move might mean for u.s. attorney general jeff sessions. plus -- russian state media says president vladimir putin is ordering more than 700 u.s. diplomats to leave. we'll have more on that in a moment. first, the reset in the white house with a new chief of staff. let's go now to cnn's boris sanchez in washington. so talking to us about this speculation about sessions and whether he would move to homeland security? >> reporter: yeah, fred. at this point it is purely speculation. i want to stress this comes from a politico report in which some sources talked to officials at the department of homeland security who threw his name out there as a possible new secretary of the department of home security. cnn has not received any indication that the president is even considering this or that
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sessions would even accept the job, but because we've seen so many unprecedented moves from this white house before, lawmakers are responding to this, at least entertaining it as a serious possibility. lindsey graham yesterday said this would be a bad idea. today, earlier today, susan collins was on "meet the press" and said she would be opposed to the? ed if the move were made, because sessions recused himself from the russia investigation. but as we know, that's the main point of friction between the president and his attorney general. kellyanne conway reiterated that earlier today. listen. >> again, that's a personnel question that only the president can answer. i will tell you that the president has expressed frustration about the recusal. so much has flowed from that recusal and so much of president trump's agenda flows from the department of justice. many of the primary issues in the program he won successfully on go through it the department of justice, and look what's happened with this ridiculous
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russian collusion delusion? >> though the idea, fred, of moving jeff sessions from the department of justice to the department of homeland security is a wild theory, it certainly is a possibility, because sessions has already been confirmed by the senate, the president could move him to dhs and have his lead the department of home security for up to 210 days as he then goes and nominates a different attorney general, perhaps one, fred that wouldn't have to recuse themselves from the russia investigation. >> all right. boris san xhchez thank you so m from the nation's capital. so as john kelly prepares for his new role those close to the president of confident he will bring a sense of discipline and order to the white house. >> take reince at his word. i don't think reince is hiding the ball on this at all. the president wanted to change directions. wanted to go a different way in the way that office was managed. i think reince was terribly effective but probablialities bit more laid back and independent in the way he ran the office. i think the president wants to
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go a different direction, wants a little more discipline, a little more structure in there. you know that he enjoys working with generals. >> if we can have protocol, pecking order, order, discipline, and a chief of staff that empowers the staff to succeed, i know that general kelly has done that on the battlefield. i know he's done that as a chief military aide to former cabinet secretaries. i know he's done it as a cabinet secretary. so we have great faith that will be done. >> all right. let's discuss all of this now with cnn's political commentators ana cabrera and jeffrey lord. could to see you both. >> how are you? >> great. welcome back, jeffrey. oh ana, you first. to hear mulvaney and even kellyanne say that the president wants structure, and wants discipline. is that what the president is hoping to see in a john kelly as a chief of staff? someone who knows john kelly, but does that sound like the wishes of the president? discipline and structure? >> look, i have no idea what
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donald trump wants. right? i'm not good at interpreting, reading the leaves with him. and i would say, be careful what you wish for because you just may get it. what i do know with john kelly he gets a leader into discipline, structure and chain of command. he's a serious guy with gravitas. he has led on the combat field. a man who led troops. i knew him in miami. got to know him and his wife, who are very active in the gold star family movement. in miami, when he was commander of southcom. he was very respected in latin america, which is the jurisdiction of southcom by his colleagues and did a lot of very good bilateral work in latin america with governments on things like drug interdictions and gang violence and all the projects we have in common. now, the question is, though, how much power is john really going to have? what's he going to do with ivanka and jared? who are relatives? what's he going to do with scaramucci?
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who says he reports directly to the president? what's he going to do with kellyanne conway? what's he going to do with all of these people who apparently have walk-in privileges. i mean, they walk in to the oval office like people walk into a public bathroom. >> right. and a chief of staff -- >> how can he get that under control. >> right. a chief of staff can put a stop to that. no one gets to the president without coming through me. do you see john kelly being a chief of staff saying, no longer easy access to the president of all the people ana just mentioned? first you've got to go through me? >> first i think he'll consult with the president see what the president wants to do and execute it in an orderly, and in obvious fashion, military fashion anda knows. i do not. sounds like a discipline aaron,
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exa -- disciplinarian. the things you need. i heard on anderson cooper's show, josh green, who's written a book called "devil's bargain." that that morning josh had been on "new day" with chris christie and alisyn camerota and in the course of the interview mr. scaramucci called in and got into a debate on-air on the phone with chris. fine enough. the problem is, that while that was going on, josh green was getting texts from people inside the white house dissing mr. scaramucci. that's not a good thing. i mean, you've got to have a discipline and a white house staff has to be orderly and not be doing that kind of thing. >> so scaramucci was brought in, communications director to help control the message, and had came out guns ablazing so to speak in these first few days. didn't see him at all -- >> so to speak.
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>> and john podesta has been among those very critical of trump saying john kelly will indeed have his hands full tomorrow. scaramucci or not, or period. listen to what he had to say on abc earlier today. >> general kelly will have his hands full tomorrow morning when he starts work at the white house. i think he's got to pleprotect justice department and bob mueller and the investigation going on there from the continued assault by the president and by the white house. it's going to be his job to provide a bullwart against interference at the end of the day will get them in more trouble rather than less. >> ana, how do you see it? >> i think john podesta is right. i think john kelley have a handful when he shows up at that white house tomorrow. the disorganization the dysfunction, the disloyalty, the amount of leaks. the people taking matters into
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their own hands. the pro ttaganism we've seen, wl john kelly be able to do this? i know a lot of political leaders. known a lot of them through the years. i have never in any one case, not seen a staff and a level of functionality of the office that does not accurately reflect the principle. john kelly is the chief of staff. he's not a miracle worker. this has got to start with donald trump. if donald trump wants more discipline, he needs to give john kelly the power, the absolute power, to exert that discipline, build the structure and carry it through in the white house. if he is sabotaging john kelly from day one by allows scaramucci to go off are and, you know, go do his crazy stunts on tv, and, you know, kellyanne
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to do the other, and jared to go be his own pirate on the ship, then there's nothing john kelly's going to be able to do. >> quickly, jeffrey. from the top -- >> stop the -- >> right. wouldn't discipline come from the top, jeffrey? >> yes, yes, you're right. one thing for perspective. i've gone back and took a look, found stories from the obama administration all the way back to the reagan era in which, literally, the story is headlined chaos in the white house. >> all right. >> it's about a white house staff in turmoil, et cetera. every single administration between reagan and obama i found these things. so there is a little perspective here. hee each president needs to get footing and then sail on. >> we'll leave it there. thank you. appreciate it. this breaking news now -- out of russia, state media saying president putin is ordering washington cut its staff in diplomatic missions in russia by 755 people.
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this in response to a sanctions bill that president trump is expected to sign. let's go right to cnn's senior international correspondent matthew chance in moscow. so, matthew, how is this message being conveyed to the, what, 755 u.s. personnel, many who are in russia and have to leap, diplomats, and how soon? >> reporter: kwell, it's an absolute huge number. saying this fig letter have to be implemented by september 1st. just, what, just over a month for that that toik place. vladimir putin the russian president went on state television earlier today to announce that that was indeed the case. 755 people, personnel, slashed across russia's, the u.s. diplomatic missions in russia. embassy in moscow, three consulates elsewhere in the country. not clear whether they'll all be u.s. citizens. all of those missions employ a mixture of russian nationals and u.s. nationals, but whichever way you cut it, this is a major step by the russians and it
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underlines how angry and disappointed the creme lkremlin u.s. sanctions bill that passed unanimously in the u.s. congress. something they're very angry about and this is their retaliation measure for it. >> matthew chance. thank you. keep us posted. straight ahead, vice president mike pence says all options are on the table dealing with north korea after its latest missile launch and it's new threat, and pence agrees with president trump who said china needs to do more. what this could mean for the region, next.
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all right. welcome back pap short time ago, while traveling in estonia, vice president mike pence said all options are on the table with north korea. this after the rogue nation fired off a long-range missile friday that appears to have the range to hit u.s. cities. also, north korea threatened to respond with "firm action." if the u.s. continues to cling
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to strong sanctions. >> continued provocations by the rogue have a he'll isn't north korea are unacceptable, and the united states of america is going to continue to marshal the support of nations across the region and across the world to further isolate north korea economically and diplomatically, but the era of strategic patience is over. >> and this morning, u.s. ambassador to the u.n. nikki haley had this to say on twitter. done talking about north korea. china is aware they must act. japan and south korea must include pressure, not only a u.s. problem it will require an international solution. the u.s. also conducted an anti-missile defense test from alaska. the thad system, it's called, shot down a missile over the pacific ocean. the u.s. also sent two bombers to fly over the korean peninsula as a show of force. team coverage on this tense situation. cnn's diane gallagher and rear
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admiral john kesirby. diane, you first. anything more you can tell us about the u.s. response? >> yes, fred. the most visible is a show of force we've seen the past couple of days. the successful thad system out of alaska. the bomber fly-over of the peninsula with the japanese and south korean fighters jets. the sanctions and push for additional ones seems to be what north korea is focused on and then, vons of course, a matter of china. the president's tweets last night accusing them of not doing enough and there appears to be a bipartisan front of publicly acknowledging without china, there's no diplomatic solution with north korea. democratic senator dianne feinstein acknowledging as much today on "face the nation" saying when it comes to kim jong-un, time sf the essence. >> i'm convinced north korea has never moved at the speed that this leader has to develop an
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icbm, to put solid fuel to have an interesting launch device, and to have a trajectory which as of the latest analysis would enable it to go about 6,000 mimes and maybe even hit as far east as chicago. we can't have that. >> as far east as chicago, feinstein saying ominous words, fred. you can see whether they are democrats or republicans taking this north korea threat very seriously now. >> and then what's your reaction to what senator feinstein was talking about? her concerns reaching as far east as chicago? what are your concerns about north korea's capabilities? >> i certainly share her concerns and she's absolutely right talking about the acceleration here that the regime has been able to apply to developing these cabinets. th capabilities. the window isn't closed for diplomatic action and i would
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like to rebut ambassador haley that the time to talk is over. there's still time to try to find a diplomatic solution to this and i think the administration is right to point to beijing and try to work through china. the only nation sake in the world certainly let alone in the region with any kind of meaningful influence on pyongyang. we just have to find a way to help get them to use that influence. obviously the approach thus far hasn't worked but doesn't mean we should stop trying. >> and your opinion, accelerate as much with its missile system? >> it's not fair to blame china for all the acceleration. this is a decision kim jong-un has made. and china can do more and they haven't to try to stem this and bring pyongyang into compliance with many u.n. security council resolutions. i just think we need to keep trying to find new ways to attack this problem by going through china. the window for diplomacy isn't over and we shouldn't think
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about it being over. that said, of course, the military is a planning organization and has to cant to plan for defenses and military options. heard from from general dunford a few days ago. that's their job. they need to do that. i don't any thin wants k anyone it to come to that stage. te thad system is sophisticated, very strong. you saw as diane reported a recent successful test. it's a good system. it is a purely defensive system and this is something people need to remember, particularly russia and china. this isn't an offensive system. it's about protecting our interests and the interests of our allies and partners but not a panacea. it works and is capable, but nobody's looking at this as sort of to solve all the problems kind of solutions. >> admiral, john kirby and diane gag gur, appreciate it. and a message for senate republicans over a failure to
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all right. today president trump is offering words of encouragement to republicans after slamming the failed effort to repeal and replace obamacare. he tweeted this -- don't give up republican senators. the world is watching. repeal and replace and go to 51 votes. get across state lines and more. this comes after his threat to lawmakers in a tweet he said, if a new health care bill is not approved quickly, bailouts for insurance companies and bailouts for members of congress will end very soon. this morning on cnn's "state of the union" director of management and budget nick mulvaney clarified what the president meant in that
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statement. >> the president cut off funding for health insurance plans for members of congress? is that what that means? bailouts for members of congress? >> actually i talked with the president about that exact issue yesterday. his attitude is this and pretty simple. he has a way of channeling a large number of the men public. he's saying if obamacare is urt hadding people, and it is, why shouldn't it hurt insurance companies and more importantly perhaps for this discussion, members of congress? there is a certain benefit that members of congress get as part of an opm decision from a couple years ago and i think the president is simply looking at this saying is this fair? fair obamacare is urt hadding people. you live in a county we call a bare county, no coverage. obliged by law to buy something not for sale hurting you or if you have coverage and can't afford to go to the doctor and that's hurting you, shouldn't insurance companies and members of congress bear some of that burden as well? i'm familiar with that and see what happens as we move forward. >> and republican senator susan
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collins say they are are not the only ones hurt by cutting off that funding. >> it really would be detrimental to some of the most vulnerable citizens of those payments, if they were cut off. they're paid to the insurance companies, but the people that they benefit are people who make between 100% and 250% of the poverty rate. so we're talking about low-income americans who would be devastated if those payments were cut off. >> all right. let talk it all over with cnn political commentator ana cabrera, who's back and cnn political commentator and political communist with the orange county register with us, john phillips. good to see both of you. so ana, the president is encouraging, or, you know, threatening republican senators to keep fighting for an obamacare repeal, and blasting them for the failed repeal effort last week. but when you hear jeff flake as
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he was on abc's "this week" earlier today. he said, i'm paraphrasing, quoting in part, if you want stuff to sign we better look across the aisle. martha radditz with abc, what about health care? he said we're getting there. he was disappointed it died last week, but he says, he and others are glad to be talking about sitting with colleagues going back to regular order. it will be good for us and good for the country. is that really the mandate or is that kind of the order of business that many republicans on the hill will be taking as opposed to listing what the president has to say, which is go back to the drawing board? >> well, look, first of all, i just don't understand the president's tact tick 's tactic thinks attack the legislative blan branch is going to work he's sadly mistaken. how long will republican take it
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or why they're even taking it. to your question of bipartisanship. yes, democrats tried fixes health care on its own and had enormous problems. republicans tried it on its own and it failed. couldn't even get 51 republican votes. so what's left to do is try to actually do what many republicans are asking for, which is take into consideration what the governors are saying. get them to have input. work across the aisle, and let it actually compromise and come up with a bipartisan approach for what is an urgent national crisis. >> so, john, do you see that some of these republicans on the hill, whether itten john mccain, susan collins, jeff flake, who are going to say, wait a minute. we're going to try something different. we are going to reach across the aisle. and it's essentially dismissing or ignoring what the president has to say. you know, or is this kind of a, a turning point for the gop t t that -- you know, that the
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president's credibility, you know, is damaged at this point? >> well, whatever they do i hope they have plenty of money for fluids. ana and i are about to go down in the southern california heat, but this is not something that requires heaven and earth to be moved here. they're not that far away legislatively. they need some legislator to step up to the plate and come up with a plan. when you're this deep into the process, it's not an essay question. it's a multiple choice test. right now we have the option of obamacare or the plan the republicans put together. they didn't have the votes. they missed it by one vote, john mccain's vote. they need to go back and need to do legislating. lindsey graham stepped up, said he may have an idea to produce the extra votes they need to get it across the finish line, but people are suffering under obamacare. they need to do something. >> this is tom price, the health and human services sent earlier today. with a message that has left many wondering, you know what is
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exactly the message coming from the white house? listen. >> you have said nobody is interested in sabotaging the system. so are you going to help it implode or try to fix it? >> that -- the responsibility of the department is to improve the health and the safety and the well-being of the american people, and we take that mission extremely seriously. which is why we are so passionate about making certain we have a health care system, again that works for patients. >> so ana what is the message? because you've got the president who says implode. you've got the health and human services secretary who talks about the president's passion, response to, you know, is that the idea? just allow obamacare to implode? what's happening here? >> oh, fred, you know, this is what we see from this white house over and over again. right? where it's like, it's like having a conversation with a multiheaded dragon. you've got price saying one thing. you've got conway saying another. you've got the president
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tweeting another. and so it's very hard to figure out what the message is. we don't know right now just how much they're going to try to do to sabotage obamacare and see it fall of its own weight. here's what i think voters, americans, really got to get active. so we have obamacare which we have got to admit has huge issues. we don't have a republican plan because it failed. the option right now is to either see a white house that's going to make obamacare, which already has problems, fail that much quicker, or try to get this fixed. and while we're in the midst of this political posturing we have got to remember that this is about people's lives. this isn't a political chess game. this is about people who need urgent treatment. people with pre-existing conditions. this is about mothers and fathers who have sick children, worrying every night, not knowing what the future is going to bring. the option of doing nothing is not an option. the option of allowing obamacare
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to fall of its own weight is not an option. legislators have got to be responsible, have got to take action have got to find a solution, because americans demand it and there are too many sick people that need us to step up to the plate. >> so, john, the president isn't using language that says he's passionate or demonstrating he's passionate about the well-being of human beings, just like ana just spelled out. is that a big problem? that's what's missing? >> well, the republicans have run on repealing and replacing obamacare in three different national elections. it happened in 2010, they were successful. 2014, 2016. it's popped up in some mid-term elections and they don't have an option. they have to do something. they have to put together a majority in the u.s. senate. already have it in the house and come up with a bill doing nothing as ana said is a death warrant for obamacare because it is imploding on its own and not going to be holds by donald trump but suicide because the
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legislation has tons of major fundamental flaws. >> all right. leave it there. john phillips and ana navorro, thanks so much. be sure to watch cnn's special "why trump won" that airs tomorrow at 10:00 eastern time right here on cnn. we'll be right back. ything keep you sidelined. that's why you drink ensure. with 9 grams of protein and 26 vitamins and minerals. for the strength and energy to get back to doing... ...what you love. ensure. always be you. in our house, we go through a lot of mom!et paper. so we switched to new charmin super mega roll. get six regular rolls in one with charmin super mega roll our longest lasting roll. guaranteed to fit. enjoy the go with charmin.
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>> reporter: right. that candidate, fredricka, died last night. somebody broke, a group broke into his home. he was shot and killed. his name is jose felix, one of the candidates people would have voted for today. we went to the polling sites. there were some lines, although when i asked multiple people how this compares to prior elections they tell me this was much smaller lines. much shorter lines at these election sites. now, while some people spent their day going to that election poll, which, by the way, closes in about half an hour, others took to the streets. you saw that video of the explosion in the area of -- we were on another area, east side of town and saw similar protests. very violent protests. police officers have been injured, protestors injured. i watched myself as the clash moved forward and everyone seemed to be throwing cocktail
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american politics these days has inspired a lot more entertainers to be a bit more outspoken. here's the latest example. comedian chelsea handler slamming president trump and thanking him at the same time. the comedienne and talk show host spoke with jake tapper onstage at politicon. a combination of comedy, politics. >> he's a bully, treats people
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tearily, disloyal. lies constantly. recorded lies and also unstable, but handler also said she's thankful for trump saying this, "i've become a better person and i'm more informed. i'm learning. i have the trump family to thank for it." let's bring in cnn media analyst bill carter. so, bill what do you make of this -- very strong opinion, but not just chelsea handler. we've seen it from a lot of entertainers who have kind of put their spin on politics. >> yes. well, you know, it's really not particularly new. obviously in this case, meryl streep and many other celebrities criticizing president trump, but you know, you can go back and you had the republican celebrities like ted nugent who made outrageous comments about obama and going back further, kanye west said president bush doesn't like black people. i think celebrities like to use the attention that they can
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attract to make their political points. i do think trump is getting much stronger reaction, because the -- the hollywood community tends to be the democratic left of center and obviously not going to like his policies at all. >> yes. you think there is something about this political season, or prap perhaps this administration unleashed more people in the entertainment field? >> i do. i think they're -- you know, they're inspired to react in ways, the same way many people who are just, you know, in the center and on the left feel about this president. that he's doing things that get them, not just angry, but also afraid. they think it's scary, that they think the country is at risk. they think a lot of the policies that he's promoting are, you know, antithetical to american values. so, yes. i think the ire, the venom directed is much stronger than i can recall, and more unified in a way. because you do see groups of people, you know, on twitter
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who, saying the same kinds of things. many, many celebrities are on twitter making these points. >> a singer, musician, kid rock also has been apparently teasing people with a potential bid for the u.s. senate, and now he's actually announced that he is creating a nonprofit to promote voter registration. so do you think this is more the impetus of getting people to be more ak tibially involved registers or that he's serious thinking about running for office? >> well, he's turned up well in the polls in michigan. he has a high recognition factor and makes for a very unusual republican in a lot of ways, because of his, you know, colorful music history past with, you know, many arrests, several arrests for assault and battery, and, you know, he killed a cougar once. he's done pretty outrageous things that you would think republicans wouldn't necessarily -- you have to say, president trump changed that game, too. they're willing to -- conservatives willing to tolerate behavior in the past
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they would have criticized. could he be a viable candidate? why not? at this point, one thing so could he be a viable candidate? ya not? the one thing that trump has definitely altered is you have to have some experience to run. the president was a celebrity on television. i wouldn't be surprised to see more people in the entertainment field saying, hey, this guy won why couldn't i? >> there have been others. al franken. >> ronald reagan. arnold schwarzenegger. >> absolutely. thank you so much. appreciate it. for more on this visit, cnn.com and we'll be right back. dale, honey, is your tummy still hurting, or are you feeling better to ride in the front seat? oh! is this one of your motorcycling friends? hey, chin up there, dale. lots of bikers also drive cars. in fact, you can save big
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if you bundle them both with progressive. i'd like that. great. whoo. you've got soft hands. he uses my moisturizer. see you, dale. bye, rob.
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new icyhot lidocaine patch. this week's episode of '90s looks at a few events that changed our world. >> whenever america goes to war, there's going to be protests in the streets. you needed congressional support or you wouldn't have popular support. >> the world looks to the president. he can play an historic role in leading us in a nonviolent way. >> make no mistake about it. our vital interests are at stake. >> bush knew that, we had to let that process go forward. you couldn't just declare war and do it. >> the hope of peace remains in my heart and the hearts of us all. but this debate is now about
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war. >> power in a matter of days can bring this villain to our knees. >> let us oppose this march to violence. >> nowhere is it ordains the new world order must begin with a new world war. >> they had a great national debate and the argument for going to war prevailed. >> president bush said the action by congress now shows saddam hussein that the united states government is serious and united in its demand that iraq withdraw from kuwait or face the consequences. >> we now close ranks behind a clear signal of our determination and resolve to implement the united nations resolutions. >> joining us now, a cnn presidential historian, and former director of the nixon presidential library. good to see you, tim. we heard about the u.s. decision to go to war over iraq's invasion of kuwait. what at the time was at stake for the united states? >> what was at stake for the
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united states and for the world was, what would be the rules in the new -- in the world order that followed the end of the cold war. were you going to allow a petty dictator to resolve a border dispute with his neighbor by using force? if you let saddam hussein get away with taking kuwait, you are sending a signal to the extra nationalists, the super nationalists in central europe, who wanted to redo the borders, that the united states would stand by, the world would stand by and allow them to use force. it's extraordinarily important in 1990 and 1991 to send a signal, not just to saddam hussein, but to any of these revisionists that in this new world, this would not stand. we as a collective security, as a collective group, we would not allow force to be used to resolve what could be resolved diplomatically. >> just reading the body language of those lawmakers and how impassioned many of them were at the time. what about for the legacy of
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president herbert walker bush? how did that impact his legacy? >> we tend to be blessed with superb leaders. harry truman was the president to have at the start of the cold war. and george herbert walker bush was the right man to be the president at the end of the cold war. one of the things that george bush understood was that he had to work closely with mikhail gorbachev. if he made it politically difficult for gorbachev, it would be much harder to achieve a unified germany and nato. a soviet un yo that would participate in the coalition against saddam hussein. none of these things would have happened if the united states had been a bully. george bush's patient diplomacy is what was needed to stabilize
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the world following the fall of the berlin wall. >> all right. thank you so much. thanks for that look back. of course, the "'90 airs tonight at 9:00 eastern time. hello, again, thank you so much for being with me. we begin this hour with new retaliation from russia, russian state media says putin is demanding 755 u.s. diplomats and personnel leave russia by september 1st. this is in response to a russia sanctions bill president trump has yet to sign. north korea in that bill, that country is resmonponding with a firm action of justice against the u.s. this threat comes just two days after kim jong-un tested a ballistic missile that experts say could one day reach the west coast of the u.s. and other parts of the mainland.
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>> i'm convinced that north korea has never moved at the speed that this leader has. >> also early this morning, the u.s. military says it successfully tested a missile designed to intercept that threat, and sent two bombers over the korean peninsula in a show of force. all of this comes as the person in charge of protecting the homeland is leaving his post. we'll discuss what it means when a general becomes the president's right handman. >> the president wants to go a different direction. wants a little more discipline, a little more structure in there. you know that he enjoys working with generals. >> more on that in a moment. but first, russia is taking action against the u.s. in the face of looming sanctions. and president putin says while he was hoping relations with the u.s. would change for the better, it clearly is not going to happen any time soon. let's get right to cnn senior inrn

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