murray live at the white house. >> good morning. it is john kelly's first day in a very big job. he'll be sworn in later this morning followed by a cabinet meeting. the question on top of everyone's minds, can kelly bring order to this wild west wing. >> reporter: president trump turning to retired four star general john kelly, for help rebooting a stalled white house agenda and reigning in a chaoticest west wing, that after reince priebus was pushed out. >> the president wants to go in a different direction, wants more discipline, more structure in there. >> it remains unclear how kelly's appointment will impact chain of command at the white house and if the former homeland security chief will exert any influence over the president's own behavior, including his use of twitter. >> you have to let trump be trump. anybody who thinks they're going
to change donald trump doesn't know donald trump. >> the president remains at odds over repeated public attacks on attorney general jeff sessions. >> well, it's kind of hurtful, but the president of the united states is a strong leader. >> reporter: the two men are expected to come face-to-face today at the president's cabinet meeting. trump also turning to health care this weekend, blasting the senate's failed efforts to dismantle obamacare tweeting, unless the republican senators are total quitters, repeal and replace is not dead, despite the fact it would have had no impact on friday's defeat, the president also urging gop leadership to change the senate's rules so legislation can pass with a simple majority saying that republicans look like fools who are just wasting their time. >> i said from the beginning let obamacare implode and then do it. >> reporter: trump also threatening to end subsidy payments to insurance companies and even eliminate some health
benefits for members of congress if the bill is not passed. >> what he's saying is, look, if obamacare is hurting people, and it is, then why shouldn't it hurt insurance companies and more importantly for this discussion members of congress. >> reporter: senator susan collins, one of three who voted against repeal, says trumps threats wouldn't change her vote. >> we need to go back to the health committee, the finance committee, identify the problems, carefully evaluate possible solutions through hearings and then produce a series of bills to correct these problems. >> reporter: in addition to the domestic agenda and organizational issues, john kelly is going to be coming into this white house confronting a number of foreign policy challenges, including escalating threats from north korea, but also the u.s. relationship with russia. we're still waiting to hear when president trump will sign the sanctions bill against russia. back to you guys. >> sara, thank you for that.
let's bring in our political panel. we have white house correspondent for bloomberg news margaret tall leave and john avlon and alex burns. alex, i want to start with you because you had a comprehensive article over the weekend in "the new york times" about how frustrated republicans have grown with the disarray and chaos in the white house. are these republicans like john kasich who never had much faith or are these loyalists who are starting to turn? >> it's pretty much everybody, alisyn. what you're hearing from trump loyalists not anger at the president, but everybody else. it includes republicans on the hill and in the white house who are close to the president but not the president himself. it's a new phase of the way republicans in the grassroots and at the leadership level across the country are thinking. >> why aren't they? >> they see him as a newcomer to washington who has received a
lot of bad advice and has been mistreated by republicans on the hill. whether they are right about that or not, i do think if you sort of play off the next couple steps of this, listen to what the president has been saying about congress over the weekend, you can see we're potentially headed for a pretty big collision between the forces behind the president and the more conventional leaders on capitol hill who want to continue to do things their way. >> margaret, john kelly, general kelly, he's the guy who is going to fix everything starting today at 9:30 when he gets sworn in before this cabinet meeting, right? >> right, right. no pressure, but by noon everything should be completely in order. there are a couple of questions, and one is how much has he already negotiated or how much will he be able to lock down with the president in terms of who reports directly to him, what ability he has to be a gatekeeper in and out of the oval office, both physically and kind of in general. but also, does the president want more of a peer with whom to bounce off strategic ideas,
should i do this, should i do that? we've heard folks like cory lewandowski say the president is the president, there's no changing him. if part of the move with john kelly is to say i recognize i need to do things differently, that's maybe the main thing that could be a game-changer potentially. >> all the rhetoric about the white house acting like a well-oiled machine in the past aside. everyone recognizes this is not normal, not only because of historic unapproval ratings. a new chief of staff may be a corrective that's needed. the president respects generals. john kelly has a good rapport with the president apparently, as well as former cabinet members. he served undersecretary gates and secretary panetta, who who have a reputation for thinking and governing beyond partisanship.
that may be what the administration needs. the idea that someone is going to change trump, achbt going to happen people. maybe his instincts can be channelled more constructively. >> maybe. maybe. >> we don't know what the communications director, anthony scaramucci, we don't know if he'll report to the chief of staff or president. scaramucci reported to the president before and not reince priebus. what about jared kushner? what about steve bannon who is this coequal to reince priebus the way it was set up before? these are important questions. >> in some ways on an even more fundamental level, when i was talking to republicans in washington over the weekend, their big question about john kelly is, we all like the idea, americans like the idea of someone who is not a politician, somebody who has experience in the private sector, from the military, being in charge of government. this is a white house that has a broken relationship with congress and a broken relationship with sort of just the traditional political mechanisms of washington. those are not mechanisms that john kelly has spent his career
operating. if you're trying to figure out with wow to work on capitol hill, reince priebus was clearly not your guy to get that done. the president reached that conclusion a while ago. but is general kelly the guy to do it? i don't know if there's anyone in or around the administration that sees him as sort of a cure all. >> one thing we need to push back upon is a framing the problem of washington being outsiders versus establishment. i think it's better understood as competence versus less competent. >> margaret, let's look at the week just to remind people. it's hard to get your mind around what last week looked like. we have help with monopoly pieces on the screen that will guide us through. on monday there were some attacks against the attorney general jeff sessions, and the president made a political speech, at least portions of it, in front of the boy scouts. >> which the boy scouts later apologized for. >> there you go. next he said he was more presidential than every
president except abraham lincoln. >> abraham lincoln later apologized. >> on wednesday he seemed to surprise the joint chiefs by banning transgender soldiers from the military. on thursday -- well, that was the scaramucci explosion day, and that went public. on friday, obamacare, the repeal and replace failed and reince priebus resigned. i think there was actually more that actually happened that week. that's just a starter course for where we are. >> there really was. two other things, one is that jared kushner came out publicly, put a public face after operating largely behind the scenes and said he didn't collude at all with the russians. the other, of course, the president had to come forward and signal at least with a brief statement he was going to ultimately sign that sanctions legislation. look, this really is a reset week for the president. last week was fairly catastrophic week. i think everyone inside the west
wing recognize that, not only an opportunity, but a mandatory opportunity to take back control of the process. >> i want you all to sit back and imagine the most uncomfortable thanksgiving meal you've ever had, and then, alex, is that what this cabinet meeting -- the president will hold a cabinet meeting today. is that what that will feel like? you have jeff sessions, the attorney general face-to-face, we believe with the president of the united states for the first time since the president started his campaign of public humiliation against him. what's that going to be like when the two men aren sitting face-to-face and we see this cabinet fluff session, literally going around the table saying, dear leader, this is how much we like everything you've done for us so far. >> like an uncomfortable holiday meal with family, i think people will say a lot of positive things that they don't mean. >> and drink too much. >> and all be on their best
behavior. anyone expecting public enmity between president trump and jeff sessions, if they were to happen, it would have happened all ready. he's known as a tough guy, likes firing people, actually hates face-to-face confrontations with people who he's close to. i wouldn't be shocked to hear him say really nice things about jeff sessions at the cabinet meeting and maybe turn around and say not so nice things in a different context. that's been the pattern with the president and a lot of people that are close to him. >> if this whole john kelly move to chief of staff, is this part of a larger chess game has been speculated where jeff saegss stays but is moved to the department of homeland security? >> i'm reluctant to embrace the chess metaphor. that said, there's been telegraphing that this could be an elegant move by the president. you move sessions over, don't fire him, make it less of an insult, put a more compliant ag
in. if that happens, it will not actually solve the problem because it's transparently what it is. it's an attempt to achieve the president's ends with sort of minimal insults. >> you're saying it won't work because -- >> republicans are going to recognize it for what it is. lindsey graham has already called it out and said it looks wrong and feels wrong because it is wrong. the problem is the president dog edly seems to want to derail the russia investigation. if he fires mueller, that's going to kick off a constitutional crisis. make no mistake about it. >> margaret, let's talk about health care. kellyanne conway said the president will decide if he pulls subsidies to insureds, what helps low income americans pay for insurance. do you think he would go that far, as to basically force obamacare to implode on itself? >> i'm loathe to predict what the president is going to do for obvious reasons. i will say this, fundamentally,
there are two questions from the president. number one, does he want to get into an all-out war with the republican party of which he's the leader. he spent a lot of time calling republican lawmakers them rather than us. that's rhetoric. this is something quite different. number two, is he going to try to, quote, let obamacare fail by not doing stuff or by actively doing stuff. i think those are two different choices, both with political and potentially some legal ramifications. we will be watching this very closely, but i think what he has hinted out will be an enormous and fairly hostile act. >> i think the republican legislators want a week or so off from this. they don't want to have to deal -- >> so does the president. >> panel, thank you very much for all the insights. great to talk to you. meanwhile, vice president mike pence is in the baltics and taking on russia over its retaliation for the u.s. sanctions that president trump
is expected to sign. russian president vladimir putin ordering the u.s. to cut its diplomatic staff by more than half. cnn's claire sebastian is live in moscow with more. what are the latest developments, claire? >> reporter: alisyn, 755 people, that's the number president putin says he wants to cut from the u.s. diplomatic presence here in russia. i want to bring clarification of what that will actually mean. the kremlin in the last hour or so say the people affected, it's up to the u.s. to decide, diplomats, non-diplomats as well as local russian staff. we know the most recent numbers from the state department in 2013, that russian staff outnumbered u.s. staff here in russia. that gives you the sense of the impact of that. as for the state department, a senior official told cnn they're still assessing the impact of this and how to respond. if they do respond, russia says, they reserve the right to take countermeasures themselves. president putin says he does not
think that would be a good idea at the moment, but further flaming tensions here, vice president right on russia's doorstep, es stone yeah, strong comments about how russia is the biggest threat to the baltic state, the most unpredictable neighbor. he had this to say about relations with russia. >> we hope for better days, for better relations with russia. recent diplomatic action taken by moscow will not deter the commitment of the united states of america to our security, the security of our allies, and the security of freedom-loving nations around the world. >> reporter: the next step, of course, is president trump has said he will sign that sanctions bill. vice president mike pence reaffirming that on that tlip to as stone i don't. certainly that won't change moscow's position, they retaliated before that happened. it is certainly something they will be watching closely.
>> claire sebastian in moscow, thank you so much. breaking news out of afghanistan. isis is claiming responsibility for a deadly attack on the iraqi embassy in kabul. the attack started when a suicide bomber blew himself up at the game and allowed fighters to get inside the gate. this comes after an attack on government workers in kabul killing 35 people. police in alabama are hunting for a fugitive following a jailbreak. 12 inmates escaped from the walker county jail last night. police have recaptured 11 of them overnight. jail officials not saying how these men got out. police are urging people in the area to stay off the streets until the manhunt is completely over. >> tensions boiling over and turning violent at an airport in france. an easyjet passenger tweeted a moment a member of the ground staff in nice punched a man holding a baby. the victim claimed about an 11-hour flight delay when he was
hit in the face. a fellow passenger said the punch left a mark. the baby was not hurt. the attacker who works for a subcontractor, not easyjet, has been suspended. >> well, his anger management class hat not worked out for him. that is not the right response. >> customer service response, in the questionnaire, i might have said, did not meet expectations. meanwhile, a dramatic shakeup at the white house. reince priebus out. john kelly in as white house chief of staff. what do the president eeps strongest supporters in congress think of this change? we'll talk to them next.
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beginning. joining us is republican congressman chris collins of new york. good morning, congressman? >> good morning, alisyn. how are you? >> i'm well. so what do you think will change with general john kelly as chief of staff? >> first of all, let me put a different spin on what we heard earlier from alex. this has been a great week for the president. i was at the jamboree. 40,000 boy scouts shouting we love trump. banning transzwrgenders probabl supported by the vast majority of americans. >> wait a second, one second here. he didn't tell the pentagon. the joint chiefs were taken by surprise. how is that a great rollout of a new policy? >> president trump is president trump. he is the commander-in-chief. he can roll things out however he wants. he doesn't report to the joint chiefs. they report to him. >> sure, but it creates a little chaos, you'll agree. they didn't know about this
policy. they, in fact, have said they're not going to do anything about it, not going to enact it, because there are no details for how to do so. >> he's going to be rolling it out. again, he's the president of the united states, commander-in-chief. on friday we were in new york city talking about ms-13, something that is the scourge of america, he's taking the fight to the criminal element, dealing with north korea, dealing with russia, and now he has solidified the inner circle of the west wing with john kelly, anthony scaramucci, two great individuals. i think it's all coming together extremely well as we move into tax reform. let's remember, it was six months ago that president trump said let's not work on health care. let's move on tax reform because we're not going to be able to do health care by ourselves. we need democrat help. he knew we weren't going to get democrat help. we didn't get democrat help. we wasted six months.
>> democrats say they weren't invited to the table. by the way, you didn't actually need the democrats. you could have done it just with republicans in the senate but that didn't work either. >> of course you're not going to get 50 out of 52, not with collins and murkowski and john mccain. >> you can't blame democrats for that. >> sure we can. they're the ones that created obamacare. they wouldn't help us fix it. now you have joe manchin saying let's get together. >> hold on a second, congressman. they said they will help you fix it. that won't help you repeal it. >> they'll help us fix it on their terms. we're not going to continue to pay 90% on expansion in the expansion states for able-bodied workers when we pay 50% for the blind and disabled. they want to fix it on their terms. >> and you want to repeal it on your terms, but isn't this the point, there has to be some sort of negotiation between both
parties? democrats say they were never invited to any closed-door meetings. >> they are going to wear it. america agrees, obamacare has failed, it's failing, it's imploding. i have suggested to the president we absolutely end the cost sharing revenues on tuesday, that's tomorrow, to insurance companies. the courts have ruled they're illegal. for anyone to suggest that trump would be pulling the rug out from under the individual marketplace, the federal courts have ruled the payments are illegal and follow the law -- >> you don't think that will create chaos in the marketplace, that insurance companies don't know -- >> absolutely create chaos. it will create chaos. >> how does that help americans? >> it's obamacare that's failed. the very insurance companies and hospitals that railed against the american health care act are now going to have to live with obamacare for the next nine months, next 12 months, which includes reduced dish payments to hospitals. the csrs, cost sharing revenues were deemed illegal by a federal
court. >> i hear you, congressman. and yet the lowest income americans do rely on them. pulling them out from under them today would create chaos according to the experts. so why go down that road? >> we're not going to break -- that's why we had to get rid of obamacare. that's why the democrats should have helped us. that's why the insurance companies should have have gone against us in the hospitals. now we're talk with obamacare for the foreseeable future with all the negative pieces. you can't just tweak pieces when there's $8 billion in taxes, fees and penalties that are a drag on the economy. we now have obamacare for the foreseeable future with all the problems we have especially in the individual marketplace. connecticut doesn't even have an insurer next year. iowa, 94 out of -- >> congressman, that's it. you're going to watch what happens next, or are you going
to go to the table with the 40 mott rads in the house -- >> i'm one of them. by the way, i'm one of those moderates. we met with the new dems last week. you know what the new dems said? >> what? >> basically they said we're not going to talk about ending the expansion, the 90% for able-bodied. they basically said we'll tweak something a little bit here or there, but we need more money to do this, we need more money to do that, and we're not going to talk about rolling back the expansion to medicaid. it was all but a joke. >> that's interesting. so from where you sit, there is nothing more the house can do? >> on health care, no, we're moving to tax reform. i would say the insurance companies are going to have to deal with what they're going to have to deal with because we tried. alisyn, we tried, we tried to fix this thing. and it didn't play out. so now that it's dead, this is the law of the land.
obamacare is the law of the land. the federal judge has ruled the cost sharing revenues are illegal. we have tried to fix it. not a single democrat stood with us when we tried to fix it. now they're going to say it's our fault. give me a break. >> congressman, one more thing, you said the president, you see good signs ahead. he's trying to solidify the white house and the west thing. do you believe that anthony scaramucci, the new director of communications for the white house, should report to general john kelly, the new chief of staff, or to the president? >> it doesn't matter to me. let me tell you, anthony scaramucci is a tough guy in his own skin. he's got the ear of the president, so will john kelly. i would say frankly it doesn't matter. >> how do you solidify it? you're saying now it's going to be stream liepd and solid phied. how do you solidify something if people aren't reporting to the
chief of staff? >> anthony scaramucci is the communications director, the spokesperson. who he reports to doesn't matter. one thing about president trump, he talks to who he needs to talk to when he needs to talk to them, a and quite frankly, an org chart, it doesn't mean anything to me because when he needs to talk to someone, he's going to. i have no courts whatsoever that john kelly and anthony scaramucci along with his other advisers are going to work very well together. who cares what the org chart looks like. >> very quickly, i know this is the first face-to-face meeting with jeff sessions and the president today at this cabinet meeting. how do you think it's going to go? >> i think it's going to go just fine. jeff sessions is a good friend of president trump, a good friend of mine as well. he's a professional. i think the meeting, it will be a non-issue. it's going to be absolutely a non-issue. >> you think he stays in his job for the foreseeable future? >> i hope so. he's a great attorney general.
i certainly hope that jeff sessions remains in that job. if there's a change, everyone serves at the pleasure of the president. we all know that. but personally, good friend of jeff sessions. i hope he stays. >> congressman chris collins, thank you very much for being on "new day." >> good to be with you, alisyn. >> all is well. the med dags clearly working for chris collins. north korea launching a new ballistic missile. what can the president do? we'll ask the former head of the cia and nsa next. as moms, we send our kids out into the world, full of hope. and we don't want something like meningitis b getting in their way. meningococcal group b disease, or meningitis b, is real. bexsero is a vaccine to help prevent meningitis b in 10 to 25 year olds. even if meningitis b is uncommon, that's not a chance we're willing to take. meningitis b is different from the meningitis most teens were probably vaccinated against when younger. we're getting the word out against meningitis b.
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president trump facing several foreign policy challenges, russia's retaliations against new u.s. sanctions on the way. and north korea's latest ballistic missile test. how will the trump administration respond? joining us former director of nsa and cia, national security analyst general michael hayden. thank you for being with us. >> good morning. >> the situation with russia, vladimir putin saying he will kick out 755 people who work for u.s. interests in the embassy staff in russia right now. how would you assess the current
status of the u.s.-russia relationship? >> well, john, it's about as dark as it's been? several decades. i actually heard someone describe the russian view of the american administration right now as the president being gulliver tied down in washington, tied down by the little pugss. it looks like the president has cut his losses in terms of the hope of a dramatic change in the russia-u.s. relationship. it's interesting he took this step after congress passed the additional sanctions but before the president signed them. in other words, he's cutting out president trump from this current action, a little glimmer, room to maneuver for him in the future. >> what does that mean? it means he's not -- you think he's not holding president trump
responsible. >> i think he's seeing that president trump is unable to change the direction, the overall direction of american-russia relations. so as a matter of style, of keeping options open, the timing, doing it now, not waiting until the president signed the sanctions, gives them a bit of an opening to play a card perhaps sometime in the future, alisyn. i think we're in this pretty dark state for a long time. >> it's a pretty interesting note, you think he's trying to give the president some space. the vice president is in the baltics. vice president mike pence actually made the claim -- and we'll play this for you -- it's the president's tough talk, as he's characterizing it -- that caused congress to issue these sanctions. let's listen to the vice president. >> i think the president has confirmed repeatedly that we believe russia did meddle in u.s. elections. i think he's also said it could have been other actors as well,
that he's confirmed his belief and our intelligence that russia was involved in meddling in u.s. elections. it's part of what inspired the bipartisan action in the congress to codify the sanctions that our administration has been implementing against russia and we'll continue to advance that. >> general, it may very well be that the president is right, that the president did inspire congress to pass these sanctions, but i'm not sure the inspiration is quite how he portrays it. it seems as if congress is saying we're taking this out of your hands. >> actually, you know you're winning in washington, john, when you begin to say it was your idea, the other guys. although, there is one important aspect here that we should not ignore, and that's the vice president's trip. he's going to estonia, georgia and montenegro. thee countries, three friends of the united states who have had one form of russian intervention or another since 2007. that's actually a remarkable journey and i think in itself a
pretty strong signal to the russians that at least the vice president's office very much objects to their behavior. >> the president went to poland, too, before he met with the g20. the president is clearly involved in this geographic boxing in as well. it does seem deliberate. >> general, let's talk about north korea. it just seems to get worse and worse. the news just seems to get worse and worse. there's never any glimmer that north korea was listening or going to change or cowed at all by the international community just this weekend, yet another ballistic missile test. what can the u.s. do? >> alisyn, not much. our options here are limited. i think the trump administration is now beginning to realize there are some problems out here without real solutions. they're conditions to be managed and their predecessors didn't have to be weak or unintelligent for this problem to continue. look, let me lay out maybe three tracks we could go down. one is accepting the north koreans as a nuclear power.
that's not very good. the other is doing something kinetic that could likely lead to serious conflict on the korean peninsula. that's not good. so where are you left, alisyn? you're left where the last three administrations have been, diplomacy, sanctions and perhaps bucking up the defenses of ourselves and our friends in the region. that's where we are. >> general, can i ask you a question? do you think king jong-un and to a lesser extent vladimir putin and other leaders around the world are watching what's going on in the united states, the chaos that has existed in the west wing over the last week specifically and longer in some instances, seeing that as something they can take advantage of? >> i think that could apply to putin more thanking jong-un. putin is a clever tactician, even though he may have strategic weaknesses. for kim jong-un, john, i think this is inevitable logic for the survival of the north korean
regime. they don't seem to pay attention, don't seem to respond. no, they know what they have to do. i think the course is set. we can moderate it. we can slow it, perhaps we can even cap it but these guys are going to be a nuclear power. >> here is what president trump tweeted about this. he says i'm very disappointed in china. our foolish past leaders have allowed them to make hundreds of billions a year in trade, yet they do nothing for us with north korea, just talk. we will no longer allow this to continue. china could easily solve this problem. your response to some of those theories. >> a couple of thoughts come to mind. there isn't enough chocolate cake in mar-a-lago to convince president xi to fundamentally change the chinese approach to north korea. that's baked into the chinese definition of self-interest. the other part of the tweet is more interesting, the president
beginning to link the chinese-american commercial relationship with chinese behavior against north korea. that's a big step. we'll see if the president actually carries that out. >> would it be a good idea to carry that out and hurt china somehow on trade? >> that's the kind of decisions that the national security council usually tees up pour the president. it's the kind of decision in which there are no easy answers, do i gain here but what do i give here? t the china-american relationship is rich and complex, and careful decision making, if you want to put this in jeopardy in order to pressure the chinese to do that. >> general michael hayden, always great to talk to you. thanks so much. >> thank you. also overseas, deadly protests on the streets in venezuela after the country's controversial election. what is happening this morning in venezuela with the violence and where they're headed
if you've got a life, you gotta swiffer protests on the zreets of venezuela turning deadly after president nicolas maduro claims victory. the outcome drawing sharp criticism from leaders around the world. cnn's leyla santiago live in caracas with the latest. >> reporter: alisyn, venezuela waking up to what is uncertainty
as we have seen days of frustration, desperation, all this playing out on the streets from the opposition, people telling me as they protest that they want a new government, they don't want a new assembly, they don't want a new constitution. they are frustrated and want change. i've been on the streets this week, and i have seen as people dig through trash to find any food. i've talked to cancer patients who tell me they can't get basic pain relievers. the hospitals are filled with patients who can find the medical attention they need from doctors, but doctors who don't have the supplies to treat them. so the opposition is saying, look, the government may be saying this is a victory, they may be moving forward with a new assembly that could rewrite the constitution and could give the president more power, but the opposition not backing down. we expect opposition to take to the streets yet again in just a matter of hours, and we're
waiting to see how the international pressure, how -- what could be more violence on the street plays in venezuela as it moves forward. >> leyla santiago, crucial moments to be sure. tropical storm watches issues for parts of florida as a tropical depression forms in the gulf and takes aim at florida. cnn meteorologist chad myers with the forecast. what's going on here? >> it has just been up grated to tropical storm emily, john. the 8:00 update says, yes, now we have emily. tropical storm emily moving toward the western coast of florida: this weather is brought to you by xyzal for continuous 24-hour allergy relief. the first one to hit land in a long time, from bradenton to sarasota down to regional southwest airport in ft. myers. heavy rain is the big story. i know it's a tropical storm,
but the winds will be 30. right now the winds are 10. the rain is going to be the big story. we could have eight to ten inches of rainfall in the florida peninsula over the next 24 hours. this is tomorrow morning. this thing is not going to linger around, not a lot of damage. doesn't have much organization right now. it will bring rainfall there and move off the coast and move away from the rest of the country by tomorrow morning. >> chad, thank you very much. president trump's victory shocked pundits and politicos and pollsters and shook up washington. why did donald trump win? fareed zakaria tells us what he has learned ahead of his cnn special report. fareed is going to join us next.
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that explores why trump won. let's take a look. >> the happiest people tend to be the people making a nice income that really enjoy their life and their family life and not the people of tremendous wealth that are constantly driven to achieve more and more success. you're expected to be a certain kind of a person and maybe you're not necessarily cut out to be that kind of a person. >> how did that donald trump -- >> get out! >> become this donald trump? >> i would like to punch him in the face, i'll tell you. >> joining us now is fareed zakaria, host of "fareed zakaria gps." answer your own question. a more gentle, romantic donald trump -- >> reporter: a lover not a fighter. >> how love should prevail over ambition and work become the candidate trump we saw there? >> what you see in that part of the documentary is the reinvention of donald trump.
you begin to realize he is a perfectly honed character. first is he began to realize the power of celebrity and the value of celebrity. that's when he got out of the real estate business. he began to feel a few things, the anger against politicians. he runs on the reform party. tries to run on the reform party ticket for a while and then he begins to see the toktsic energy on the far right. remember, his first political mo moves. he knew that the election of a black president had stirred a
kind of ugly racial animous. a small subset but he knew how to get to them. it was a 50-year low of trust for politicians. he got his timing right, which all great performers need. >> about the man right there, lover not a fighter, then there's the moment. talk to me about the moment, fareed, this socioeconomic hunger that existed, to an extent still exist notice united states. >> what i was most impressed was we know about the economics, the hollowed out factories and coal mines. the other factor is culture. a real sense of cultural alienation, older, white,
noncollege education americans have, a sense that their country is changing because of immigrants. because maybe blacks are rising up to a central place in society, because gays being afforded equal rights. because of, frankly, working women. everybody is muscling in on the territory that the white working man had. the final one is class. social class. we don't talk about it a lot. the election of donald trump is really a kind of class rebellion against people like us, educated professionals who live in cities, who have cosmopolitan views about things. there's a part of america that is sick and tired of being told what to do by this overeducated population that hillary clinton perfectly represented. that's why they're sticking with him. >> yes. and that's why when democrats think how long can this go on? surely the chaos would mean he would never be re-elected.
those actors that got him elected haven't changed and still exist in the perceivable future to 2020. >> if you think about those trump voters, imagine what it would mean for them to say, you know what? i was wrong about donald trump and "the new york times" was right. they're not going to do that. there's a lot of stickiness to his support. >> what shakes that, if anything, fareed? does it have to be a different view of what america has become to them or is it that president donald trump has failed to deliver on the things they were expecting him to deliver on? >> that's a great question. the research shows that people don't vote so much on polishes. there are studies that show at the end of an election you ask people what party stood for what policies and more than a third got it wrong. they think democrats are in favor of repealing the aca and republicans are -- what they vote for is, does this guy get me? does this person know me?
we had david brooks on the program saying they ask themselves is this party full of people who look like me, who are like the people i hung out with in high school? that's almost like a tribal team loyalty. i don't think that -- i don't have a good answer for what will shake it. i think what could change it is if you find a democrat -- the democrats are all sitting there, worrying about what economic policy they should have, should they be more left wing. the key is, can you connect? bill clinton had very kind of centrist policies, but he connected. white working class voter looked at him and said this guy gets me. unfortunately, they didn't feel that way about hillary clinton. >> so while we have you, so much happening, obviously, internationally between russia, north korea. what do you think six months in, how president trump -- just today, because there seems to now be a different stance toward russia, obviously, if he's signing the sanctions bill. north korea this weekend launched another ballistic missile. how do you think the trump administration is doing with
these international crises? >> to be fair in some cases the policy response has been appropriate, measured. if you think about this russia one. if you look at the syrian case. the problem is i think it is mostly because of delegation to a few good people, like mattis. russia completely boxed themselves in. they can't follow any policy other than a hardline policy because if they're trying to do anything cooperative they're going to wonder why is trump being so nice to russia? he only has himself to blame for that. my point is because they did not have a strategy, because the president still does not know the details -- so on north korea, the idea that insulting china by tweeting against it is going to get you anywhere is highly, highly unlikely. so i feel like there hasn't been
much damage done yet. but the process feels very chaotic, very ad hoc, very impr improvisational. we have not faced a recession or a serious international crisis. so all the chaos, dysfunction you're seeing, that's just without having encountered any external problem. >> thank goodness. fareed, thank you for that. be sure to tune in for his special report "why trump won" 9:00 pm eastern only on cnn. we're following a lot of news this morning. general kelly will do a good job. he will bring some order to the west wing. >> president trump hits the reset button after one of the most chaotic weeks of his presidency. >> i have said from the begin i ing, let obamacare implode and then do it. >> it's incomprehensible that we have a president who wants to sabotage health care in america.
>> we won't make it as a country when we spend our time fighting all the time. >> russia is destabilizing activities. unacceptable. the president will sign sanctions. >> cutting its diplomatic staff in half in retaliation for u.s. sanctions. >> retaliation is long, long overdue. >> announcer: this is "new day" with chris cuomo and alisyn camerota. >> chris is off this morning. john berman joins me. good to have you here. >> good to be here. turning the tide after one of the most turbulent weeks of his presidency. in about 90 minutes, his new chief of staff general kelly will be sworn in. this comes as the president will be face-to-face also this morning with jeff sessions for the first time since the president launched repeated attacks on his attorney general.