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so be wise all take new xyzal®. this is gps, the global public square. welcome to all of you in the united states and around the world, i'm fareed zakaria. today on the show, melting ice. violently powerful storms and ever more sweltering temperatures. climate change, just how bad is it? former vice president al gore on the state of the planet. >> this is for real, were we not to take a hold of it and solve it, the consequences would be too catastrophic to even imagine. >> he will also weigh in on the state of american politics. >> from my point of view, the worst of it is that it's producing constant distractions. >> will he jump in to fix the
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mess? >> wouldn't it make sense for you to run for president? also the week in world affairs, russia, venezuela, north korea and will america get a new immigration policy? have a great panel to discuss. finally, an american red state taking queues from a much divided socialist scandinavian country. and the prisons of north dakota is there a lesson for all of america? i'll explore. but first here's "my take." in 1992, a politician dedicated to the working class made a speech in new york city. he wanted to present a party platform. he firmly understood that the motion would be voted down. but the democratic party refused to air his views.
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in his brilliant forthcoming book, "the once and future liberal." that sent a strong signal to working-class catholic and evangelical voters that if they did not fall in line on this one issue they were no longer welcome in the party. i wonder if democrats aren't making the same mistake on immigration? i think that the bill that the republicans rolled out this week is bad public policy. but he is in fact a pro choice absolutist. in his view, there is a larger crisis within american liberalism. the movement has had two very different visions, the first one franklin roosevelt a national
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effort to all people take part in political life. the symbol was two hands shaking, an affirmation of the binding strength of national unity. the liberal project has been centered on identity, affirming unity but not difference. women, hispanics, native americans, african-americans, asian americans. he notes that a current bent imf identity liberal is that of a prison. retracting a single beach of light. they understand the voters for whom this is a score concern. look at the democracy fund's voter survey, done in the wake of the 2016 election, if you compare two groups of voters, those who voted for barack obama in 2012 and then hillary clinton in 2016 and those who voted for
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obama in 2012 and donald trump in 2016. the single biggest divergence on policy between these two groups is immigration. in other words, there are many americans who are otherwise sympathetic to democratic ideas, but on a few key issues, principally immigration think the party is out of touch. and they are right. consider the facts. legal immigration in america has expanded dramatically over the last four decades. in 1970, 4.7% of the american population was foreign born, today it's 13.4%. that's a large shift in a small period of time and it is natural that it has caused some anxiety and the anxiety is about more than just johns. america had more than ideology, it had a culture, one that shaped its policy. would the america be the america
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it is today if in the 17th and 18th centuries it had been settled not by british protestants, but by french, spanish or portuguese catholics? the answer is no, it would be quebec, mexico or brazil. democrats must find a middle path on immigration. they can battle donald trump's drastic solutions, but still speak in the language of national unity and identity. the country's motto after all is, out of many, one, not the other way around. for more, go to and read my "washington post" column for this week. and let's get started. 11 years ago a movie was released that woke many people up to the fact that the earth was warming and humans were to
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blame. the film was called "an inconvenient truth" and its star was the former vice president al gore. gore who had been screaming from the rooftops for decades was finally getting heard. the film was awarded the oscar for best documentary and gore himself won the nobel peace prize the following here, now gore is back with a sequel. the sequel was released on friday just a few months after trump announced america's withdrawal from the climate agreement. he's here talking about the state of of the climate right now. >> here in the u.s., in just the last seven years, we have had 11 once in 1,000-year events and they're now fairly common place. in one year, last year, houston, texas had two one in 500-year
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events and one once in 1,000-year event. and the increase in airport, d india just set its all time temperature record, the hottest year ever measured last year, the second hottest was the year before that. 15 of the 17 hottest in the last 20 years. the carbon polluters have mounted in rear guard action to pretend there's still a debate, again mother nature is convincing people that whether they want to use the term global warming or climate crisis or not, they can see for themselves with the evidence of their own senses that things are really changing for the worst. >> what about when we watched that very dramatic greenland
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footage. >> in april this year, the temperature over greenland was much higher than normal. and the engineer on one of the helicopters took a video during this temperature spike. those are parts of the glacier just exploding with the high temperatures. >> what exactly are we watching and why is it so important? >> the land based ice on greenland would raise the sea level worldwide by 7 feet. the most vulnerable nations are in asia and south asia, by assets at risk. the number one city in the world at risk is miami. i saw a fish in the ocean swimming in the streets of miami beach on a sunny day, simply because it was a high, high
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tide. bangladesh has millions of people in the low-lying areas. some of them got used to rebuilding their lives every 20 years, now it's once every six or seven years, so the refugees climbing northward. and the migrants from the hardest hit drought areas, climate related droughts, particularly in the mediterranean, but in large areas of the middle east and north africa. right now 20 million people are at risk of starvation, the largest humanitarian crisis since 1945, according to the u.n. in iran a couple of years ago, one of their cities had a combination of heat and humidity, of 104 degrees
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celsius. and no human can live outdoors in those conditions. >> do you think when you look at the future, you are able to maintain your optimism given the pretty bleak picture that you're seeing are it now. >> nothing compared to what would be up there if we don't stop it now. if we don't cut way back on it. there was a famous economist who you may have known, rudy dornbush, who said things happen much faster than you think they will. we have seen this with technology employment curves. a decade ago, when my movie first came out, the solar curve was just beginning to slope upward. now has it shot way up. the same thing has happened with
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cell phones and other technologies. that pattern also describes some political and social revolutions. i grew up in the south when the civil rights movement was gaining momentum, believe me, the resistance to civil rights was at least as ferocious as the resistance to the climate movement and solving the climate crisis. nelson mandela once said, it's always impossible until it's done. and we are right at that tipping point, where the climate movement is concerned. and the agreement 18 months ago in paris was a truly historic break through. virtually every country in the world agreed to go to netzero global warming plus by mid century, or as soon thereafter as possible. since the paris agreement, we have seen that powerful message sent to industry, to business. india again just announced two months ago.
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that in only 13 years, 100% of their new cars and trucks are going have to be electric vehicles. that's faster than what the united states is doing. and we're seeing dramatic changes like that, driven by economics and driven by the awareness dawning on millions more people every day. that this is for real. and we have an obligation to our kids and to ourselves because it's beginning to affect us. this city, here in new york city, in the first movie, the single most controversial scene perhaps was the prediction from the scientists that the world trade 9/11 memorial center would be flooded by the ocean water, with the combination of sea level rise and storm surge. they said that was ridiculous, but when superstorm sandy came from the atlantic, it crossed ocean waters that were 9 degrees fahrenheit warmer than normal. and it became very powerful, very broad, filled with
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moisture, and the world trade center site flooded many years ahead of predictions. >> those were gore's thoughts about the earth's climate. what does he have to say about the political climate in america today? he doesn't hold back there either, when we come back. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪
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why are america's politics so broken? is there a single cause? are there solutions? former vice president al gore has some very blunt words about washington's dysfunctions and corruption. there are a lot of people who look at the trump administration and say, you know, nothing is getting done, there's incompetence, there's chaos, but it has withdrawn from the paris
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climate agreement, scott pruitt, the energy -- >> epa. >> epa administrator has said that he intends to roll back as many of the obama-era regulations as he can. we don't know quite what the department of energy is doing, but apparently they are also making efforts. how significant is this roll back that is taking place under the donald trump administration, does it work? >> yes, it does. some of it is being stopped by the congress, the so-called methane rule is being vetoed in the senate. but they're trying to codify some of these destructive changes to eliminate environmental regulations. and pruitt just announced that he wants to lift the rule prohibiting mercury in water ways that pollute water
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supplies, and it's almost incomprehensible. but here is the good news, fareed, there's a law of physics that often operates in politics as well. for every action, there's an equal and opposite reaction, in reaction to trump and his cadre of rogue scholar deniers, there is a reaction now that's producing the greatest upsurge in climate action and for better health care and so forth that i have ever seen and we are seeing mayors all over the country step up and say they are for the paris agreement. the mayor of pittsburgh said no, we're still in the paris agreement and announced a goal of going to 100% renewable energy. >> what do you make of the chaos in the white house? have you ever seen anything like this? >> never.
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never. and from my point of view, the worst of it is that it's producing constant distractions from the big tasks that we have before us. and of course the biggest of all is solving the climate crisis. look, this is for real. this is for real. were we not to take a hold of it and solve it, the consequences would be too catastrophic to even imagine. >> you were a politician for many, many years. it feels like american politics is broken. it's so polarized, but also so dysfunctional. nothing gets done. when you look at it, you think about your time in american politics, what do you think has happened? >> i think our democracy has been hacked by big money, long before putin hacked our democracy. and i think the change is connected to a dramatic
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transformation in the last third of the 20th century in the nature of the information ecosystem in which our democracy lived. in our last century, the printing press, gaining more by the 1960s and by the middle '70s, it was so thoroughly -- politicians had to spend the majority of their time asking for money so they could buy these 30-second television ads. they're the emotion based hot button appeals, most of them negative. and it's really had a destructive effect on america's political culture and on the operations of our democracy. there is another transition now under way toward internet based
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media and social media. this year, for the first time, the big advertisers still prefer television, but that too is beginning to change. >> so you think social media might provide a way out of this bind? >> i do. i do. one of the reasons why the republican health care legislation failed and of course we credit john mccain and senator collins and senator murkowski, fine, but i think the real reason that failed was bad legislation by my likes. but the real reason it failed was that there was a popular upridu uprising, and it was a complicated set of issues, but these groups who organized on
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the internet and then met up together physically, you have to have clicks and bricks as they say in the business world. you can connect with people on the internet, but you have to have that physical contact where people form the deeper, longer lasting ties. they moved to the political sentiment in this country to the point where it was political suicide to vote for that legislation. >> so using this extraordinary new social media, and appealing to people on the basis of the most pressing issue that you believe faces the world and the united states, wouldn't it make sense for you to run for president? >> well, i'm a recovering politician, and the longer i go without a relapse, the shorter that becomes. >> it you would have more impact as president of the united states. >> you're pressing your argument. i'm flattered, thank you. but i'm doing what it feels to
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me that i'm supposed to be doing and i'm grateful to have found a way to serve the public interest outside of the political system. >> al gore, pleasure to have you on, sir. >> thank you. >> gore's new film "an inconvenient sequel" opened friday around the u.s. now i have another document to tell you about. mine, my latest special, why trump won will premier on monday at 9:00 p.m. it's my account of all the signs all of us missed, including me in the runup to the 2016 presidential election. don't miss it. and we'll be back in a moment. oh no... it's just that your friend daryl here is supposed to be live streaming the wedding and he's not getting any service. i missed, like, the whole thing. what? and i just got an unlimited plan. it's the right plan, wrong network. you see, verizon has the largest, most reliable 4g lte network in america. it's built to work better in cities. tell you what, just use mine. thanks. no problem. all right, let's go live. say hi to everybody who wasn't invited!
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now for our "what in the world" segment. >> this is fake news. >> fake news. >> they have been fake news for a long time. >> a sturdy example of fake news. >> the fake news media.
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>> fake news peddlers. >> you are fake news. >> here's the real bad news, you ain't seen nothing yet. a big data analysis of online media released this summer by three communications professors shows the production of fake news articles has been rapidly growing. to be clear, fake news is not news you don't like. it is content that is intentionally created to mislead the public and is untrue. and the researchers came to a capitol hilli chilling conclusion, when news organizations take the time to fact check stories, they just draw more attention to them. the authors argue rebutting fake news doesn't work and that media outlet can do better to run real news stories. three computer researchers
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working at the university of washington used artificial intelligence to generate a fake video of former president barack obama. the researchers processed 17 hours of high definition footage of obama's actual presidential addresses and created this remarkably photo realistic video. the words are obama's, but can you tell which of these four videos is fake? >> the results are clear. america's businesses are created 14.5 million new jobs over 75 straight months. >> actually, all of them are fake. back in 2016, another group of researchers created a powerful algorithm to create real-time video -- the idea to create fake videos in a photo realistic fashion to where it is slir cviy
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impossible to distinguish. in these examples, actors make facial gestures which are animated in real-time, which results that are almost seamless. what this all means is that we are rapidly approaching the point where a public figure could be made to say anything -- >> most of us don't get our health care through the market place. >> the ability to create convincing fake videos has led to a healthy suspicion of all the media we see, which up until now we have take en for granted. it has become so easy to make a video, that there will always be some doubt on all videos, even authentic ones, even if a video isn't fake, a politician caught on a hollywood bus making
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obscene statement, could make the argument he's the object of a fake video. there are some technical solutions including adding water marks on video to detect the true origins of the fake media. the credibility of the source matters, that media organizations like cnn and the "new york times" and "the washington post" that have standards and checks, perform a crucial public role as gate keepers, sorting through facts and fakes. in the meantime, you need to be ever more wary of that article your brother sent you. up next, what happened in the resting of the world next week? we'll be back to discuss with a terrific panel. do you play? ♪ ♪ use the chase mobile app to send money in just a tap,
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is the editor of foreign affairs, dan seener is the co-author of the foreign initiative and the staff writer at the atlantic. dan, i got to start with you, you are better plugged in with the congressional republicans than almost anyone. look at all the things that have happened and it does feel as though you're beginning to feel a republican revolt, that senators and congressmen, particularly republican congressmen, they cannot vote for trump. >> they always give the president, going back 40 years, they give the president some flexibility. some sort of presidential waiver because he's in charge of foreign policy and you want to give the president flexibility to wave the sanctions or pull back from the sanctions, what the senator republicans said we don't trust you to run your own foreign policy with russia.
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so if the president wants to lift the sanctions, he has to go back to congress. it's in the legislation, nothing has ever been passed before that kind of restraint. trump started to talk about jeff sessions in the last few days and how he should go, and charles grassley put out a tweet, if you get rid of sessions, there's going to be no confirmation hearings for a new attorney general. they have the president's son in conversation with the committee under threat of subpoena. this is six months into the presidency. this is the party that is empowered in the white house and they're putting these kinds of restraints on the president. so rhetorically republicans have not been out front as much as i would like them to where in the past few months in terms of calling out president trump. if you look at what they've done legislative, they're trying to box him in. >> but you listen to president trump, i still have my base.
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>> a lot of people around him believe that he's more in touch with the base of the republican party than members of congress. >> is that changing? >> i think that's changing, you see it in the approval ratings going down. i still think he has a deep bond with those voters, but as these numbers come down, i think republicans are feeling more and more comfortable challenging this im. >> if you look at russia policy at this point, it seems that trump is boxed in, a bunch of congressional hawks are joining with the rest of the party. >> you have also said trump -- he wants to scrub democracy promotion from the state department's message, but for russia, that kind of stuff has always been a major irritant for russia, they belie-- there's no
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policy on anything. it just depends on who in the administration you talk to on iran, on russia, depending on the day of the week. >> on north korea, tillerson said something remarkable. he said we don't want regime change, we want to talk to you, we're just interested in your nuclear weapons. >> but then two weeks ago, you had cia director mike pompeo saying that regime change was on the table. so i don't know, there's certainly not a policy message coming from the commander in chief, again, who's the last person to talk to him and convince him of a certain position. >> russia policy? what do you think? >> this is a very strange point in history. you have essentially a pirate crew, that's come in, a skeleton
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crew running a big prize ship and they have taken over, but the ship is go in a certain direction, but they can't reverse course. but you have the ship's captain saying we're going to do this and the rest of the ship's crew is stalling or going in the other direction. american foreign policy is going on on autopilot regardless of who's in the white house. that's what mattis and tillerson and pompeo is trying to do. history is going to look at this period and say there was a weird time when trump was in charge in the white house, but then there was american foreign policy before and after. and there's going to be no contin continuity. >> it's amazing that john kelly's first test was
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scaramucci. what's he going to do with scaramuc scaramucci? john kelly knows mcmaster is imminently qualified for this position. and the idea that he's being attacked from within. no doubt about it, the social media campaign against mcmaster is being ginned up by others in the administration. this tension between steve bannon and kelly. >> venezuela seems to be impl e imploding, is there any lesson to be learned from that. >> venezuela is what you get when you have no constitutional structures in place. so we should all be thanking the
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founders for setting up a system that's ingenious. >> it's been six months. >> so no one thinks that is not a giddeon rose quote, that's actually james madison. donald trump asked in west virginia if there were any russians over there, well, i'm going to ask that same question, because we have a russian in the house, we're also going to talk about russia and also the new immigration plan, when we come back. this is crabfest at red lobster. with choices like the classic crab lover's dream and new favorites like dueling crab legs with dungeness and snow crab. it's happening right now right here at crabfest. red lobster. now this is seafood.
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rose and julia, you're an american, of russian or gigin. >> he's running on a plat -- in one shape or another, immigration policy, they have been going after green cards and h1 visas. it's interestingi inbecause mela donald trump was here under a h1 visa. originally she was on a tourist visa. she's the right kind of imgra , imgrachi immigrant, she's a beautiful white woman. i think a lot of this stuff is trying to find kind of a formula
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that will provide the right kind of demographic engineering for this base. >> giddeon, what strikes me about it is nobody would object to a shift in the composition of immigration that is more skills based, less family unification, is probably too lopsided, but this is achieved by dramatically cutting back on immigration at a time when everybody believes that the great advantage of the united states, compared to europe, example, compared to japan is that we have young worker workers, and the reason we have good workers is that we have immigration. >> you can make a case there's a good policy reason for considering alternate ways of structuring your intake of immigrants. but reducing them dramatically, for the legal immigrants is a different question from the illegal immigrants and it's one that doesn't seem geared towards
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successful economic future and a thriving dynamic future for the country. and politically, as your column points out, it might actually make some sense. >> there is a moral question here because part of this proposal like all past proposals or executive actions drastically cuts down on the number of refugees, which i would argue is immoral and cruel, especially if you're creating a isolationist foreign policy and you're not going out and trying to help these countries fix the situation that they're in so they're not creating these massive refugee numbers. >> one immigrant said when i came to this country i did not speak english, but now i get paid to write it. >> that's part of the qualifications, if you come to this country, you need to speak english, english is a pretty easy language to learn, you can actually pick it up in a few
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months. >> actually congress is more bipartisan than ever. >> on policy matters, there's fierce partisanship, on constraining trump, there's more bipartisanship than ever before. the intelligence committee, and the judicial committee are locking arms and they're bringing up comey to testify, and they're bringing up different white house officials to have conversations about isolating the president. it's mcconnell and paul ryan could shut these investigations down tomorrow if they wanted to, they're not, they're working closely with schumer and pelosi on these. >> a lot of this conversation, i think is to me like 2016, paul ryan saying this is textbook
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racism, but, i don't endorsement, but i will vote for him. the only reason that the senate health care bill didn't pass, only three republicans peeled off. that's not a lot for a bill that was scored to show that it was actually quite a cruel bill would deprive a lot of people of health insurance that already have it, despite its lack of popularly, only three republicans peeled off. so we're seeing some of it and it's encouraging, but i don't know how, you know, how it's going to continue playing out, especially if, you know, the republican party became very anti-establishment in 2016, and here they have the establishment locking down the guy who's anti-establishment, how is that going to play with the base? >> every effort president trump has made to impede these investigations have backfired, every single thing he's done, and it's largely because republican leaders in congress have put a check on him. that's something. >> yes, that's good. >> so the clock started ticking
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when mueller was appointed. trump is a big tree, robert mueller and his team are a small ax sharpened to cut him down and that's what's going to happen over time. up next, american red states are taking lessons from a scandinavian socialist country. i'll explain in a moment. d to bg the wedding and he's not getting any service. i missed, like, the whole thing. what? and i just got an unlimited plan. it's the right plan, wrong network. you see, verizon has the largest, most reliable 4g lte network in america. it's built to work better in cities. tell you what, just use mine. thanks. no problem. all right, let's go live. say hi to everybody who wasn't invited! (vo) when it really, really matters, you need the best network and the best unlimited. plus, get the pixel, by google for $5 a month.
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72 years ago today, an american b-22 bomber dropped a little boy atomic bomb over hiroshima. this came a month after such a weapon was first tested on july 14th, 1955. when did the united states last test a nuclear weapon. 1962, 1983, 1992, or 2003? we'll have the answer in a moment. my new documentary "why trump won" will appear tomorrow
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night right here on cnn at 9:00. >> it is a collective failure. >> it's the most unbelievable thing. >> the media was dead wrong. >> the numbers were wrong, we didn't see this coming. >> how did he win? that's what i dig into monday night 9:00 p.m. in "why trump won." now for the "last look." prison cells like dorm rooms, happily chatting with guards. wearing civilian clothes. no it is not some scandinavian prison. it's right here in north dakota, known as the farm. in fact all three of the state's run prisons are experimenting with new strategies to improve the outcomes for all as well as improving quality of life. the number of inmates in solitary confinement is down by 2/3, and with that decrease,
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inmate violence has dropped. dakota prisons are known for the most humane in the world. a group of north dakotan prison officials visited norway's open air maximum security prison, and incorporated many of its features and philosophies. we often look to other nations for solutions to crisecrises. maybe north dakota, a state that voted overwhelmingly for donald trump will end up showing the president and all of us a way to really make america great again. the according to answer to my gps challenge question is c, the u.s. last conducted a nuclear weapons test in september 1992
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at an underground site in nevada. the soviet union has performed 700 since it's first one in 1949. thanks for joining me for the program this week, i will see you next week. hey, i'm brian stelter, welcome to our viewers in the united states and all around the world. this is ""reliable sources"" our look at the story behind the story, of how the media really works and how the news gets made. several developing stories rights now. eric bolling suspended over allegations that he sent several inappropriate pics to several colleagues. plus we have breaking news from vice president mike pence, he is calling a "new york times" story absurd and offensive. we'll have that coming up. but first, how leaks to reporters are