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government for the travel. in the past, she's played a creepy deputy and a reporter. >> you're hot. >> reporter: but when she came off sounds like the character she played in "csi: new york" she was clearly in over her head. jeanne moos, cnn, new york. >> thank you for joining us tonight. i'm jim sciutto. "ac 360" starts right now. good evening. the president is in phoenix tonight, and he has company. protesters gathering now to meet him with the final number expected to be in the thousands. the city's mayor, a democrat, sayi ining he shouldn't have co after his remarks on charlottesville. on top of all that, there's new reporting breaking tonight into "the new york times" suggesting that the senate majority leader mitch mcconnell is unsure the president will be able to salvage his own presidency. turns out, they haven't talked since august 9 when they had a
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yelling match on the forever over the sanctions against russia the senate passed. and if that weren't enough, the president has floated the possibility of pardoning the controversial former local sheriff joe arpaio. sarah huckabee sanders says it will not happen tonight, but as we've seen with president natural events like this one, almost anything can happen. with all of that on his plate, the president arrived in the valley of the sun after a brief stop in yuma, which represents a change in plans, because the original one had him going to the border, but that was canceled due to security concerns. tonight's e rent is the sort of thing the president thrives on. although there's a teleprompter on hand, the president sometimes like to ad lib and
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as for what exactly is planned for this speech tonight, the white house isn't saying. they're keenly aware that they do have to strike an important tone after that deadly violence in charlottesville after the president's comments were widely panned following that deadly violence in charlottesville. as they touched down in arizona today, the white house said we can expect to hear condemnation of hate in all forms. the big
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>> ho many protesters are out there now? >> reporter: anderson, there are
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perhaps 1,000 pro-testers here. it's 107 degrees, but the temperature may not be as high as the tempers outside. there's plenty of hate to go around on both sides. i'm standing around with people that do not hike donald truliket all. the protests have started early. excuse me for a second. excuse me for one second. right across the street, this is where people are going into the donald trump rally. there's a lot of antagonism on both sides. both sides are giving the finger to each other, yelling to each other. although it's the american right to protest, the hatred is a little disappointing. i want to tell you on the other side of the street, we can look over here, you can see what i'm talking about the hatred, that's donald trump a balloon, wearing a klu klux klan robe with a swastika on his chest. next to him is sheriff joe
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arpaio. in the next hour, a lot more people are here. more than 10,000 people have signed up on facebook to participate in the protest. the rally begins in about two hours. right now, the police are doing a good job keeping both sides separate. the s.w.a.t. is here with rifles. >> gary, thank you very much. the mayor of phoenix opposed the president's visit. he is a democrat. in a recent op-ed, he accused the president of dousing racial tensions with gasoline and he fears he may be looking to light a match. i spoke to the mayor before we went on air. you called on the president not to come to phoenix. i'm wondering what your concern was, is it just the possibility of the protest, certainly there are a lot of trump supporters there that want to see him tonight. >> i felt after the tragedy in charlottesville, which happened just a short time ago, the president failed moral leadership after
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charlottesville. his failure to condemn the racism and the nazis there, to have a campaign rally here in phoenix, arizona so shortly thereafter, you put it together, it was such a dangerous combination that i thought the rally was not the correct thing to do here in phoenix. >> are you concerned about what may happen tonight in terms of any conflict between protesters? >> tefirst, we have just receiv word that sarah huckabee sanders indicated that the president will not pardon sheriff joe arpaio tonight that. is a great victory for so many people that have been asking the president not to do that. that would be such a volatile thing to do. and because of that, i'm much more confident that today is going to be calm and peaceful. in addition, we're so lucky here in phoenix to have a great police chief, a great phoenix police department. they're working with federal and state authorities. they've got an incredibly complicated but good plan for
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tonight. and i have the highest level of confidence that they're doing everything possible to make sure we're peaceful here in phoenix. >> you feel like if he has pardoned -- announced he was going to pardon sheriff arpaio in phoenix tonight, that would have been potentially incendiary? >> there is no doubt about it. the singular purpose would have been to inflame passion to pardon sheriff arpaio, who internationally is a cartoon character. but here locally it's possible. he terrorized the lives of so many latino residents. they couldn't go to school or work without fear of facing criminal sanctions for literally doing nothing. he faced a crime, a civil rights trial that he lost. and he was found to be in criminal contempt. so our sheriff has been criminally convicted. and for the president to do that at a campaign rally in front of 10,000 people would -- the only purpose would have been to
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enflame passions. and yes, i was very concerned about what that might do on the streets of phoenix. because the president has backed off because of the advocacy of so many leaders here in phoenix, i have a much higher level of confidence that the rally and all of the people expressing their first amendment rights will do so in a peaceful environment in phoenix tonight. >> in front of an adoring crowd, the president often responds to the crowd and plays off the crowd, and we've also seen in the past sarah huckabee sanders saying one thing, the president doing something else. so it is still very possible tonight he will either speak about sheriff arpaio or announce that he's going to pardon him if that is what he intends to do. >> you are correct. he might do that. there's nothing we can do about that, other than his press secretary indicated it's not going to occur tonight in this politicized environment, so shortly after his failure of moral leadership, after the
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tragedy in charlottesville. yes, if he were to go against what his press secretary said today, it would be a very bad thing and a potentially very volatile thing here in phoenix. >> what about -- you know, slightly more conciliatory tone he took last night at the beginning of his address to the nation about afghanistan, seemingly addressing the aftermath of charlottesville, although he never mentioned the community by name. were you impressed by that at all? >> no, i was not. and by the way, speaker paul ryan was not impressed either. i saw his town hall which he also acknowledged that the president fell short after charlottesville. so these been bipartisan condemnation of the failure of moral leadership by this president after the tragedy of charlottesville, which obviously these white supremacists openly marched. a young woman was tragically murdered by a neo-nazi, and the president should have been unequivocal that's not
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acceptable if the united states of america. and his guarded words were not enough. he should take the opportunity here in phoenix, arizona, put politics aside and try to bring the people of this country together. i'm not kidding myself. i don't expect that to happen. but if he really want to be president of all the people, that's what he should do tonight in phoenix. >> mayor, appreciate your time, thank you. just ahead, more breaking news as we watch the protests unfold. there's a "new york times" story, and it is a doozy, about the breakdown in the relationship between president trump and the top republican in the senate, mitch mcconnell. the headline, mcconnell doubts if trump can save presidency. also tonight, donald trump likes to say he's a populist, posting a photo of her getting -- we'll hear from the mom she attacked on hooin aline and how she's nog
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york times" national reporter shares the byline and joins me now. ummm, is mcconnell not sure that president trump will serve his full term? what does it mean he may not be able to salvage his presidency? >> he's expressing pessimism and frustration in a range of ways, anderson. but from the get-go of this story, it was clear that the senate leader is really telling people close to him, people who are supportive of his agenda in general and who he relies on to pass legislation and support the party on the national level, he no longer feels that president trump can be counted on to be a dependable partner for him in governing or in politics either. that goes for the 2018 elections, potentially 2020, as well. >> the last time they talked is august 9 in a phone call that ended up in a shouting match. >> so it's nearly two weeks ago was the last time they had any direct contact. there's been staff contact, but
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republicans are coming up on a number of really important governing deadlines in september. at this stage of things, you would expect to have direct conversation with the president. really the most important man in congress, that is not happening. >> based on your reporting, part of the shouting match was over the president's anger that mitch mcconnell wasn't doing enough to protect him from the russian investigation? >> that's right. a couple of people briefed on the phone call said there was fuming about the health care issue, but really the great bulk of the call and most of the heat on the call was directed on that russia issue, the sense that this is out of control and republicans don't have any back. >> i want to read you something, an amazing detail. it says in a series of tweets this month, president trump criticized mitch mcconnell. so according to your sources,
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the president believes the senate majority leader should be running interference on the russia investigation. >> he feels that republicans in congress ought to be not advancing what he views as investigations that are unfair and detrimental to his political interest. i think in some respects it reflects that the president is something of a political amateur. but it's also just a sign of the depth of his defensiveness on this issue. when ever you've had republicans criticize him on russia or maybe there's something there, it gets the president upset and he expressed that directly to senator mcconnell. >> it's so interesting what is the president's strategy on this, to not only publicly go after mitch mcconnell in tweets and comments, but to have this personal animosity and shouting matches. one wonders is there a strategy here or just president trump unable to control himself in >> certainly the sense on the
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hill is that there is not this plan to get results from this congress. republican senators and donors do feel -- what's happening at this point is the president is holding grudges against members of his own party who he feels have processed him and he's more focused on those grudges than on crafting ledge heytive resulegi results. >> another piece says that she could only accompany him on air force one if she committed to voting for the health care bill. and she declined saying she hadn't seen the bill. >> we know there are hard feelings about the health care issue. i think the depth of those feelings is maybe a little more tense than is widely recognized. certainly fromfolks around mcconnell's operation, and he has through his behavior, made it harder to do anything else, like tax reform or even basic stuff like funding the
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government. >> incredible reporting. thanks so much. join joining us now is leon panetta and david gergen, who has worked for presidents in both parties. secretary panetta, how significant is it that mcconnell is questioning whether the president can salvage the mess he's made of his presidency? >> well, it's a very important statement that reflects a real breakdown between the president and the majority leader in the senate. look, i know mitch mcconnell. he is a -- he's a pragmatist. he's somebody who likes to get things done. he works at his job, and i think the fact that he fought very hard for the health care bill, lost it by one vote. to then have the president come after him and be critical of what he did, particularly a president who is all over the
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place on health care, from repeal to covering everybody, and then use some of the strong arm tactics that you talked about that blew up. i just think it's a reflection at this point in time that there is a real breakdown between the president of the united states and the leader of his party in the senate. and it doesn't bode well for getting anything done this fall on major issues. >> david, do you see a strategy here by president trump to do this? have you ever seen a relationship between a president and his party's leader in the senate that's more dysfunctional? >> i don't see any strat skri at a -- strategy at all. i see a temperament problem, how well suited donald trump is or not suited for working with the senate. it's so important to go back to the basics.
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the senate and the house are co-equal -- form a co-equal branch of government under the constitution. they are as powerful and to be as respected as the presidency itself. in fact, it's article i is about the congress and article ii is about the president. the founders saw the congress more important. but to go beyond that, the senate members still think of themselves as belonging to a club. each party has its own club. and for mcconnell, who is a proud man, this is insulting to be treated this way by the president, and it is driving him away from the president. interestingly, that fascinating story in "the new york times" says that the business leaders who deserted the president have now started to gravitate to mcconnell as the person they ought to work with. this could well turn out to believe, before its over, that
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mcconnell and other republicans will say we'll just run this ourselves mr. president, we'll send you the bill and you sign it. >> we have to take a quick break. we'll continue the conversation next and dig deeper into the implications of the republican party and the president at war. >> our new president has not been in this line of work before. and i think had excessive expectations about how quickly things happen. >> mitch, get to work and let's get it done. opportunity sales event before it ends. choose from the is turbo, es 350 or nx turbo for $299 a month for 36 months if you lease now. experience amazing at your lexus dealer. hey. what can you tell me about your new social security alerts? oh! we'll alert you if we find your social security number on any one of thousands of risky sites, so you'll be in the know. ooh. sushi. ugh. being in the know is a good thing. sign up online for free. discover social security alerts.
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going to tonight's rally in phoenix, the president has
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attacked republican senators from arizona and the majority leader. how long can this go on before it blows up politically? i just want to remind you of some of the things the president has said publicly about mitch mcconnell. >> i'm very disappointed in mitch. but honestly, repeal and replace of obamacare should have taken place. mitch, get to work and let's get it done. they should have had this last one done. they lost by one vote. for a thing like that to happen is a disgrace. he should have known that he had a couple of votes that turned on him, and that should have been very easy to handle. >> should he step down? >> if he doesn't get repeal and replace done and if he doesn't get taxes done, meaning cuts and reform, and if he doesn't get a very easy one to get done, infrastructure, if he doesn't get them done, then ask me that question. >> secretary panetta, i asked this to david gergen before we went to break.
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do you see a strategy here? is it a way that the president distancing himself from the failure over obamacare or is it just emotion? >> there is no strategy here. i think what you're seeing is a president who has very little experience in governing. very little experience in politics. and he's taking the same kind of approach that he did when he was a developer in new york, in bullying other people, in criticizing them, and in trying to bully them into doing what he wants. and it worked for him, not only in the business world, it worked for him when he ran for election. and so he thinks all of this will work for him in governing the country. but it's not. you cannot bully members of congress to somehow come your way. you've got to deal with them.
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you've got to respect them. you've got to talk to them in equal terms. and if he doesn't learn that lesson, mark my word, he will not achieve any major legislation, certainly in this first year of his presidency. >> david gergen, i keep thinking about just the toxic environment the president seems to create all around him, whether it's a relationship with mitch mcconnell right now, or people in white house, these competing camps that we've seen in the white house. for months now, the white house has been deny thing's any chaos. those clearly were just lies. we now know there's been complete kay uchaos. you now have strong people, h.r. mcmaster and others that want to do good work for the country. when there was talk that gary cohen might step down, the markets dropped. it just seems like the president creates a toxic environment for all those around him who are
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trying to do the best they can. >> i agree. it goes back to what leon just said. that's the way he did business in new york, the way he conducted business. you can talk to any number of people that did business with him there that tried to bully him, tried to strong arm him and would get very aggressive if they didn't go along with what he wanted. that's just who he is. it's time to reject the excuse that he's an amateur. he's been on the job seven months. he wanted this job. it's not an excuse any longer, well, i don't know my way around. i've seen a lot of presidents who come to town who are not familiar in washington, but they learn on the job quickly. bill clinton was an example of that. it took him a while, he stumbled in the beginning, but he learned and he grew into the job. and we haven't seen that here. one of the things, anderson,
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that's really interesting, we see a little more order and we saw it in afghanistan, the generals clearly are starting to have some impact inside on at least policymaking on afghanistan. but the generals don't know anything about politics, either. i don't see the team around him that knows much about governing and about the politics of trying to build the republican party. >> secretary panetta, how important is that to have that team around him? it seems like with h.r. mcmaster, cohen, he has a lot of experts in their field on policy, but politics is a whole other different matter. >> the president, i think, thinks that he's the smartest guy in the room. and that's the biggest mistake a president can make. and i think when it comes to political decisions, when it comes to decisions involving domestic policy, i don't think
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he listens very well. and so the result is, he hasn't been willing to build the kind of team that he built on national security. he's built a strong team on national security. thank god he's willing to listen to them. what he needs to do is to build that same kind of team when it comes to the legislative challenges he faces on the hill. the economic challenges that are facing this country. he's got to be able to have a team that can do the job, because frankly, he can't do it. he's not built right to be able to do this. he's going to have to rely on good people who are willing to reach out and try to develop coalitions in the republican party, respect the leaders on both sides, and try to develop the kind of coalition that can pass tax reform, that can pass funding for infrastructure, and do the things he wants to achieve. if he's not willing to do that, then i think nothing is going to happen.
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>> i appreciate your time. thank you. when we come back, what do you wear on a government plane on a visit to one of the poorest states in the country? if you're the treasury secretary's wife, you wear as much designer clothing as you can, then you instagram about it and belittle somebody who criticizes you for it. the latest on her, ahead. un-stop right there!
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the treasury secretary's wife, louise linton, posted an instagram photo bragging about her wealth, tagging luxury designers clothe's she was wearing and flaunting a hand bag that cost about $10,000. when an oregon mom commented that her behavior was deplorable, and linton hit back. this was all during a trip to kentucky, where the median income is less than $44,000. randi kaye has the story. >> reporter: the controversy took flight after her plane landed when steve mnuchin's wife posted on instagram. bragging about flying with her husband on a government plane to kentucky to visit ft. knox. she has a reputation for flaunting her wealth and appeared to be carrying a handbag that sells for about $10,000. mnuchin's 36-year-old wife then tagged a series of luxury
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designers. linton's instagram started to pick up steam. one instagramer, who was offended by the post, was an oregon mom named jenny miller. glad we could pay for your little getaway, #deplorable. >> i didn't know who she was. to then be tagging everything she was wearing with all these expensive european designer names just seemed ridiculous and quite frankly, offended me as someone who paid for part of their trip. >> reporter: but it didn't end in. instead of letting it go, she ripped into the oregon mother of three, with a long, konld se condescending rant. she said, cute, ahh, did you think this was a personal trip? adorable. before it was over, linton called miller adorably out of touch, suggesting she go chill out and watch the new "game of
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thrones." >> there are probably better ways to spend her time and money than trying to make me feel bad about my simple, cute life. >> reporter: luis linton, a former actress, has long touted her wealth and hollywood lifestyle. of all things she played marie antoinette on "csi." keep in mind, they were visiting kentucky, one of the poorest states in the country. that only added to jenny miller's frustration, who felt linton could have done something to help the children of kentucky instead of bragging about her expensive wardrobe. jenny miller didn't even know that linton had responded to her, until her sister told her about it. >> it was as tone deaf as her original post, and that it was very ironic that she was calling me out of touch and assuming things about me and just being so condescending and so incredibly rude.
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>> reporter: jenny miller didn't drop it either, posting again, apparently i offended this deplorable girl i had never heard of until today. according to my 22nd google search, she's married to an old rich guy in a wedding attended by other couples of similar age and beauty gaps. but that post never made it to linton's instagram page. by then she changed the setting to private. this was hardly the first time linton was caught up in controversy. last year, the memoir she wrote about her time in zambia in the '90s when she was just 18 also got her in hot water. in the book titled "in congo shadow" she painted herself as what critics called a white savior, when she wrote about becoming a central character in the horror story of the war in the congo. she wrote, i try to remember a smiling, gap-toothed child with hiv, whose greater joy was to
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sit on my lap and drink from a bottle of coca-cola. "the washington post" says the book was panned as racist and full of misrepresentations and ridiculous cliches about africa. she later apologized for offending anyone and pulled the book from sale. >> randi kaye joins me now. today, another apology from linton. >> reporter: absolutely. this afternoon, she issued a statement through her publicist saying, i apologize for my post on social media yesterday as well as my response. it was inappropriate and highly insensitive. in addition to that, the treasury department has said the couple will be reimbursing the government for linton's travel and she does not receive compensation for products she mentions on line. anderson? >> why does she have a public t publicist? is she an actress? >> she was an actress from
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scotland. she's done a little bit of television. but she also has done some acting as well in hollywood. >> all right. thank you very much. what do you make of this, kirsten? >> well, i mean, first of all, the post came off as something you would expect from not just a teenager, but a very nasty teenager. this was just really kind of unbelievable how nasty she was to this woman. you know, separate from the fact that it's just bad judgment to be the wife of a public servant posting these kinds of pictures with all these hash tags of expensive things. that bag that she was carrying ranges between $10,000 and into the hundreds of thousands. >> for the bag? >> yes, for the purse she was carrying. this is -- when you're going to a state where -- the whole country there's a lot of
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suffering. but in that state in particular. >> looking at this photograph that she posted, that's not a photograph she took, but a photograph she had to search out somebody else took or asked somebody to take or somehow she searched it out and intentionally posted it. and it's not just that she hash tagged the designers, she tagged the items in the photograph, so that any time anyone searches for that bag, that photo will pop up if you look under hermes bag. this is what teenagers do. it's all about exclusion. not only showing how great a time you're having and how great you are, but that other people are not having this time. and that's what this seems to be about. how do you see it? >> clearly, i think as randi said in her piece, she played marie antoinette, who is famous
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for saying, let them eat cake. so to the degree you said in terms of what all you have to do to get this on, it's way beyond with me with regard to the dwram. b -- instagram. but she went out of her way to do this. we're seeing this with others in this administration that have money is they just don't understand that what they're saying and what they're doing is out of touch with the average american person. and as they were just returning from kentucky, those people, average median income, about $0,0$ $40,000. they just don't understand that kind of post and extravagance and calling attention to it is insulting to the american person. >> the people's billionaire people referred to him during the convention. what is's so concerning about this, the things she said to this woman, is this idea that they're making this huge sacrifice by working for the president of the united states. her husband is working for the
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president of the united states. he's the head of the treasury department in the united states of america, and it's a sacrifice to her to be married to this person. we all know it's not because he's making a billion dollars this year or however much he used to make. that mentality, which we also hear from the trumps a lot, of how much they have given up to serve in the government. when in fact for most people serving in the government is a huge honor. >> the honor of most people's lives. >> exactly. >> a couple things to point out that are moot points at this point because we're well beyond this. but it's not uncommon for spouses to travel with cabinet members and others in the administration. they need to reimburse the cost of the travel. and moving forward, i think it's imperative, one of the things that she says, she's talking about the sacrifice. it's a blessing to do this. and if nothing else, this is an important lesson to learn. she's not a public figure being a spouse of a cabinet member. but it's an important lesson
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that everything you say and do, not just represents you, but in turn the administration. so hopefully this h be a good lesson for her that in the future you need to be more careful what you say and the implications. >> so if she's using her vast resources to employ a publicist, and i don't know if the publicist had anything to do with this photograph, but maybe consult the publicist, somebody with a clear head, or even ask the husband, is this a good idea for me to like be -- >> i don't understand why they don't know this. i don't understand why they don't already know that this isn't a good idea. that's why i'm getting lost. i don't understand people that think attacking somebody in that manner on instagram, your adorable little family because they're not super wealthy, i am just lost as to why someone has to educate this woman about that. >> i mean, let's be honest, it's tacky and disgusting.
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it's vulgar. my mom always said, she knows the price of everything and the value of nothing. she knows the price of her purse and she wants everybody to know she's wearing whoever underwear. >> that will be the next hash tag. i think her apology was sincere. it wasn't one of those apologies that, i'm sorry if i offended you. >> and it was eight hours too late. you're just a sweet heart. >> the woman who responded to her, they're trying to raise money for her friend who had a stroke. so hopefully that person will receive a lot of money from her. >> thanks. coming up next, tensions boiled over last night in charlottesville city council meeting. when the meeting resumed, protesters sounded off. we'll talk about their outrage when we continue. when you have allergies, it can seem like triggers pop up everywhere.
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spiraled out of control, when protes protesters took over. they said lawmakers have blood on their hands. ed lavendera has more. >> but that's not the rules. we don't do that. >> reporter: this was just the beginning of the charlottesville city council meeting. demonstrators filled the chambers, and within minutes, took control of the room. >> you've been called to order so yul have to be removed. >> reporter: police removed and arrested three people from the chambers, two protesters climbed on top of the council member's podium, and unfurled a banner that read "blood on your hands." demonstrators blamed city leaders for not stopping the unite the right rally. organized by white nationalists and neo nazis that led to the death of heather heyer and two virginia state police officers killed when their helicopter crashed while on patrol near the clashes. >> blood on your hands! >> somebody's got to be held accountable for not only the blood of those three lives but for every jeer thinjury that ha this past weekend. >> reporter: the city council
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members left the room and shortly after the televised feed cut off. when the meeting resumed, charlottesville residents unleashed a furious litany of criticism on the council especially mayor michael singer. >> you guys need to wake up and smell what you're shoveling. you really do. we need you to have a solution. we need you to protect our city. >> i warned you. i've had enough. we've all had, absolutely had enough. the statue needs to come down. you need to grow a [ bleep ] spine. get the statues down, all of them. get them down. >> reporter: demonstrators accused city officials and police of not doing enough to protect the counterprotesters on the streets. >> all had multiple opportunities to intervene and did not intervene one time. >> we tried really hard to get the rally out and a federal judge -- a federal judge forced us to have the rally downtown. >> reporter: again, mayor singer shut down the meeting and left the room. >> i'm canceling this meeting. >> reporter: the mayor returned
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to chants that he should resign. >> singer must go! singer must go! >> what are you all going to do when they come back? because they are coming back. they've already said so. what are you all planning to do when they come back? those statues are still there. that's their beacon. >> reporter: city leaders have taken the first steps to remove the two confederate statutes in charlottesville but that will take some time to work out. in the meantime, city leaders plan to cover the monuments in a shroud until they're removed permanently. it's a move that likely won't calm many in charlottesville, as city leaders brace for an open town hall meeting on thursday. ed lavendera, cnn, new york. >> with the president facing criticism for his comments on the violence in charlottesville, as we mentioned h eed he is out tonight in arizona where he hopes to flplay to his base at campaign rally. he'll be greeted by supporters and protesters in the streets. crowds gathered at the phoenix convention center where he'll speak in about an hour. miguel marquez is there. what are the crowds like where you are, miguel?
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>> reporter: well, they are growing and angry. shouts of justice and shame as the trump supporters go into the arena there. i'm going to show you some of the groups that have shown up here. antifa, militant anti-fascist group just showed up here in masks. they say they are not intent on causing any militant action today. but i want to give you a sense of just how big this crowd is here. it's probably 2,000, 2,000-plus. people keep pouring in from over on this side, but if you turn around this way, you can see over there by those balloons, that's where the main brunt of the cloud crowd is, that's where the convention center is, that's where they are shouting at the trump supporters as they go into the convention center. still an hour away from the president actually speaking here. it's not clear whether these crowds are going to stay. phoenix police treating this like a major event like the super bowl, essentially, saying it is all hands on deck for them. they have all law enforcement agenciy ies including the natio guard on alert for this hoping
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nothing goes wrong. i can tell you, there is a very, very big contingent of police here. one thing that they have done, they've blocked off streets around the area so that no one can drive a car into this. they have the dump trucks and barriers across all the streets of this area hoping they can stave off any sort of issues. there were some moments earlier today where the direct -- where there was direct sort of confrontation between trump supporters and people who do not agree with the president, but those seem to have calmed down. phoenix police using mainly officers who are ununiformed, literally, to get in between the protesters on both sides. let them have their say, but at the same time, not let it get beyond just screaming and shouting. anderson? >> all right, migmiguel, we're going to check in with you throughout the next hour. up next, we'll take you inside the convention center, see what's going on there, as we await the president's speech in phoenix.
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at the top of the hour tonight, donald trump versus the protesters who are on hand for his campaign rally tonight in phoenix. the president versus the state's two republican senators, neither of whom will be in attendance tonight, though one of their gop primary opponents will be. president versus mitch mcconnell who "the new york times" reports is privately doubt whether he can save his presidency. finally tonight, the president versus donald trump. will we see the kind of buttoned down, on message president we saw last night or the off the cuff presidential id that emerged after sharltcharlottesv week ago today? phil mudd put it in "the situation room" will we see the president tonight or just trump? let's two to sara murray inside the hall. what do we expect from the president tonight? we saw the crowds outside. obviously thousands of people inside waiting to hear from him. >> reporter: well, i think that will be what's interesting, look, there are teleprompters set up for the president, maybe we will see