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was a slim possibility that it was a collapse at the nuclear test site. joining us, ben wedeman, who is live from tokyo. ben, what are you hearing from there? >> well, christi, multiple sources saying different things, one said it was a 3.5-magnitude earthquake in northeastern north korea, and they said it was a possible explosion. however, we're hearing now from officials at the korean meteorological agency that they believe it was neither a collapse of the test site, nor an explosion, a nuclear test, that it was probably a natural earthquake. now, the united states geological survey has said that it happened at a depth of about three miles, but they've said
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that the air force organization that can actually test for the presence of nuclear particles in the atmosphere, and that might provide us with a more definitive idea of what has happened, but at this point it seems most of the officials in the area are tending to the belief that perhaps this was a natural earthquake. one official saying it happened about 30 miles from the site of previous tests. christi? >> all right, ben wedeman, thank you so much, sir, appreciate it this morning. >> let's go now to cnn meteorologist allison chinchar in the cnn weather center. we've heard from the si, but wh usgs say? >> regarding the earthquakes, the wave forms from this event are different than previous events at the site. when talking about waves, we pressure different wavelengths, things like that, that can
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really ultimately tell us this was a natural earthquake. as opposed to manmade. what they are trying to say is this particular earthquake, the 3.5 with a depth of 5 kilometers, was different than a lot of the wavelengths we were seeing in the previous ones. take for example the one earlier this month that was a 6.3 that north korea had told was a manmade. what they are saying is they are noticing discrepancies in the wave forms, but they also make the statement we cannot conclusively confirm at this point the nature of the event. they are not quite there yet to actually announce and confirm, rather, what they think this was. however, this is much weaker than many of the recent ones we've seen. not just the one earlier this month, victor and christi, but years. 5.1 in 2014, 4.3 in 2006. for a lot of the previous ones out of north korea, this is much smaller than a lot of the other ones we've seen over the past
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couple of years. >> all right, allison, thank you very much. over the last 24 hours, president trump has had an awful lot to say about senator john mccain. >> yes, the arizona senator is is a no on the latest health care plan. that puts this plan one no vote away from failure. the president called mccain's decision terrible at a rally last night in alabama, and this morning the president is now going after john mccain again on twitter. and others. let's say that, as well. cnn's boris sanchez joins us from washington. what are you seeing, what's the president saying this morning? >> good morning, victor and christi. president trump calling john mccain's decision to not support the graham/cassidy bill terrible, going right after the senator from arizona, the president writing, "john mccain never had any intention of voting for this bill, which his governor loves. he campaigned on repeal and
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replace. let arizona down." he then went further writing, "large block grants to states is a good thing to do. better control and management. great for arizona. mccain let his best friend l.g. down." l.g., of course, a reference to lindsey graham, one of the sponsors of the bill. the president, however, as he said last night at his rally in alabama, is not giving up hope on a repeal and replacement of obamacare. listen. >> john mccain was not on the list. so that was a totally unexpected thing. terrible. honestly, terrible. repeal and replace, because john mccain, if you look at his campaign, his last campaign, was all about repeal and replace. repeal and replace. so he decided to do something different, and that's fine. and i say we still have a chance -- we're going to do it eventually, we're going to do it eventually. >> now, as you mentioned, victor, a margin here for
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republicans is razor thin, so this morning the president is tweeting at other republican senators, including alaska's murkowski, who said she's undecided in this bill. in the previous version of repeal and replace she voted no. one vocal critic of the graham/cassidy bill has been rand paul. the president tweeting about him this morning, saying that he hopes that rand paul finds a way to vote yes for the republican party. however, rand paul, as i mentioned before, has been vocally against this bill. we've heard from sources at the capitol that the president has called rand paul several times this week. those sources tell us it is unlikely he will flip his vote. victor and christi? >> early no on this graham/cassidy bill. boris sanchez, thank you so much. the president's also lashing out at nfl players who kneel during the national anthem. president trump called on the
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nfl to fire players like colin kaepernick and used some choice words to describe them. >> wouldn't you love to see one of these nfl owners when somebody disrespects our flag to say get that son of a bitch off the field right now? out, he's fired. he's fired! >> he also told fans to leave the stadium when those players refuse to stand for the anthem. cnn sports anchor coy wire is here with more. the passion there the president had in responding to people who kneel during the national anthem. he didn't have that same passion when he talked about white supremacists and neo-nazis in charlottesville and we're hearing that reaction from some current and former nfl players. >> that's exactly right, passion and profanity. shocking to hear that, as a former player, i must say. he was pretty bold with that. as expected, we've heard from some former and current nfl
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players, but kaepernick, michael bennett, they said we're not protesting our nation, our flag, our military. i spoke to michael bennett, he said his own father served in the navy. they are simply exercising their right as an america to speak out, use that stage of the nfl to try to create positive change in regards to racial and social injustice. police brutality, but a lot of people think that's anti-american, kneeling during the anthem. president trump playing to that narrative last night in alabama. here's some of the reaction around the league. bi bishop sankey said, shaking my head in awe. max garcia said what an emphatic response. this is, victor, to your point. he says, where was this passion in response to charlottesville? lions eric evron, does anyone ever tell trump to stick to politics like they tell us to stick to sports? morris smith tweeted just about
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an hour ago saying, we will never back down. we can no longer afford to stick to sports. some of your responses. we've asked you to tell us your thoughts and ed says, this president is only re-energized the movement to protest racial injustice through his tone deaf ignorance and lack of empathy. next tweet coming in from truth seeker, kneeling during the anthem is disrespectful to our military. if they want to protest, hit them do it on their own time, #boycottnfl. finally, absolutely appalling, says billy. i serve and stand for the pledge and anyone who uses it to keep america great for anyone who has ever been. go kap. so you have the president urging fans at games if they see a player kneeling to boycott. ratings down, saying that's a reason ratings are down, that could be argued, but a lot of responses coming in from president trump. we will hear more. steph curry, mvp of the nba
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speaking out yesterday, saying if they are invited to the white house, they are not going, to try to send a message to president trump, so you're seeing this infusion, this intersection of sports and politics. i think it's here to stay, guys. we're going to have these players, coaches, using their platforms to try to make a change and create positive change where they think they can. >> we certainly didn't hear the president criticize sports stars who endorsed him during the campaign, so this is, obviously, selective in what the president wants to hear. >> nfl owners who donated millions when he was inaugurated president. >> thank you very much, coy. >> you're welcome. >> thank you. so, president trump, as we mentioned, also talking about senator john mccain after he will not vote, it's been announced, for the latest gop effort to repeal obamacare, so that leaves the question, is this bill dead before it even gets a vote? our panel has something to say about that. plus, thousands of people in puerto rico under an emergency
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many insurance plans cover chantix for a low or $0 copay. all right, 14 minutes after the hour now. president trump is going after senator john mccain after the senator likely stopped efforts to repeal obamacare this session. president trump tweeted this morning, "john mccain never had any intention of voting for this bill, which his governor loves. he campaigned on repeal and replace. let arizona down." the president's comments come after senator mccain said he could not in good conscience vote for the proposed bill without knowing its impact, without knowing how much it would cost. mccain's no vote likely means republicans will not be able to repeal the health care law with a simple majority by the september 30th deadline. joining me now is cnn politics reporter lauren fox, danielle litman, and melissa quinn, breaking news reporter with "the washington examiner." good morning to all.
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>> good morning. >> i want to get to the potential of this being over in just a moment, but first, melissa, let me start with you, the president last night said that john mccain wasn't on his list of potential no votes. this morning he's saying that john mccain never intended to vote for this bill. i wonder why there's any surprise when john mccain said this after his vote -- rather, ahead of his vote that thumbs down for the skinny repeal just a few weeks ago. watch. >> we tried to do this by coming up with a proposal behind closed doors in consultation with the administration, then springing it on skeptical members, trying to convince them that it's better than nothing. that it's better than nothing? asking us to swallow our doubts and force it past a unified opposition. i don't think that's going to work in the end, and probably shouldn't. >> and probably shouldn't. same process, same concerns.
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why was there any surprise that john mccain would not support this? >> well, you're absolutely right. i think when you look back at john mccain's comments just a few weeks ago when the senate first debated their first go around at repealing and replacing obamacare, he was very passionate about the fact that any health care proposal that the senate was going to take up needed to go through regular order, and the graham/cassidy bill did not go through regular order. in fact, i think a lot of people would agree this plan really came out of left field, because republicans and even president trump had said that they were shifting their focus to tax reform, but there are two things about the graham/cassidy proposal that make it different from the health care bill that the senate considered just a few weeks ago. first, this is a bill that was sponsored and really spearheaded by lindsey graham, who is john mccain's best friend in the senate, and secondly, the bill had the support of arizona governor doug doocy, which would have provided senator mccain more cover if he did want to
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come out and support the bill, which we know now he's not going to. >> daniel, to you, i said at the top this is likely the death knell for this, we know senator collins is likely leaning no, is this over? is graham/cassidy/johnson/heller dead? >> looks that way. the main senator said to her local paper she trashed the bill, so they are awaiting for john mccain to basically give them cover to oppose it. they wanted him to do the same thing he did a month or two ago in terms of, you know, dooming this repeal effort. it's interesting to see how much effort the senate republicans have spent on this issue when they have nothing to show their voters. it seems like they are more likely to go into tax reform, where, you know, cutting taxes, that's their party, you know, that's one of their party messages. and so if they can just go to that, then there's much more
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likely chance they would pass something. >> and, lauren, the president said last night that it makes it more difficult, but he's going to keep trying. the president has signed on to every iteration of a repeal that came out of congress. first it was the american health care act. the president said, i'm in. then it was just repeal with no replace. president says yes. then the senate said we have a plan, president says let's go for it, skinny repeal, i'm in. the graham/cassidy bill, i like that, too. we heard from congressman dent, who's going to be leaving congress soon, that the president needs to lead here, not just accept and follow. here's what he said. >> the president can blame whoever he wants for this. when we didn't pass the house health bill, you know, he told me before he was going to blame me, destroy the republican party, all that. but at the end of the day, to be fair, you know, the president really never laid out his principles or his plan on health care. and i've always felt if you're going to change the whole health
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care system in this country, it demands strong executive leadership. presenting a plan, principles, and going out and selling it. i didn't see that happen here. >> to what degree is that frustration or concern shared on capitol hill? >> i think it's a double-edged sword. a lot of members of congress say they wanted to craft their own health care bill. they did not want this just coming from the administration, they wanted to work through this. on the other end of that, it's very clear president trump is not a policy wonk, someone who pored over what he wants the american health care system to look like. he wants republicans to get it done, and i think there is some frustration on capitol hill that the president hasn't been out there doing rallies, something that he loves to do, something that he could do to energize the base around this. instead, a lot of members go home and hear from liberal activists at town halls telling them they don't want them to support the bill. i think there is a little frustration there that the president is not taking the lead on this.
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>> melissa, what's next, if the president calls them chuck and nancy back to dinner, trying to work out a deal with democrats. the president, of course, appreciated the praise when he came up with the deal relating to the debt ceiling and harvey aid. not so much the pushback from conservatives on the daca deal, but is that potentially in the cards? >> i think we'll have to see. in terms of health care, republicans are pressing up very quickly against a september 30th deadline and senator cassidy has said he wants to continue and push forward and ideally pass a bill overhauling the health care system, but like you mention, republicans have a very packed agenda in the next few weeks. we have a march 5th deadline in terms of when daca will be rescinded, we have a budget deal expiring at the beginning of december. we have heard a lot of rumblings for months now about an infrastructure plan, tax reform, so whether or not republicans decide to put health care aside in the next few weeks and shift to these other items on their
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very lengthy agenda is ultimately up to senate republican leaders. >> chuck and nancy, of course, being the democratic minority leaders, chuck schumer and nancy pelosi. back to you, this was about a lot of things last night, but it was supposed to be a full-throated endorsement of senator luther strange and his run-off on tuesday, and i have to say, this was probably the most unorthodoxed endorsement we've heard of a candidate. i want you to listen to what the president said about his support for luther strange. >> we have to be loyal in life, you know, there's something called loyalty with these folks. and i might have made a mistake, and i'll be honest. i might have made a mistake. because, you know, here's a story. if luther doesn't win, they are not going to say we picked up 25 points in a very short period of time. they are going to say, donald trump, the president of the
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united states, was unable to pull his candidate across the line. it is a terrible, terrible moment for trump. this is total embarrassment. i mean, these are bad people. and by the way, both good men, both good men. and you know what, and i told luther, i have to say this, if his opponent wins, i'm going to be here campaigning like hell for him. but, i have to say this, and you understand this, just look at the polls, luther will definitely win. >> i mean, you put a cherry on top at the end. what's under that cherry is the question. maybe i made a mistake, i'm dragging him across the finish line, and, hey, if my guy doesn't win, i'll be here for the other guy. the interesting part here is, all of it's true. and if luther strange loses on tuesday, we will say the president was unable to drag his
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candidate across the finish line, just as the president said. >> i've been watching politician endorsement rallies for several years, and for them i've never seen a single one say i might have made a mistake by coming down here and rallying for this guy. and so, you know, trump returned to his comfortable, you know, room where he likes to bash the media. that's his -- he loves that line. and so -- but it doesn't seem like he was doing luther strange any favors last night. seemed more people were there to see trump than strange. so the opposition may very well win on tuesday. >> i'd love to know how many of those people in that venue last night actually are going to vote for roy moore but just came to see president trump. daniel lippman, melissa quinn, thank you. >> thank you. we have to tell you about
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thanks for being with us today, i'm christi paul. >> i'm victor blackwell. good morning to you. >> let me tell you about the usgs that says a magnitude 3.5 earthquake has been detected in north korea. this happened near the country's nuclear site, as well. >> two south korean officials say so far their analysis shows
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it was a natural earthquake, not manmade. one official says there is, though, a slim possibility that it was caused by the collapse of the nuclear test site. meanwhile, north korean state media is lashing out at president trump, the speech specifically at the u.n. this week calling it an open declaration of war. here's what they said. "we will throw the irrational war fanatics of trump's gang in the fire of justice." this morning thousands of people changing gears here, we have to go to puerto rico, to talk about the people under this emergency order to evacuate after officials there warm of an imminent dam break. >> this is according to the governor. a dam located in the northwest part of the island, you see that on the map there, has suffered structural damage. here are the pictures coming into us this morning. this, of course, happened after hurricane maria hit, and the island, top it off with the fact they still don't have power. many parts are already heavily
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flooded. military officials don't know how long it's going to take iffer communications and power to be restored. >> joining us from puerto rico, nick paton walsh. nick, first let's start with the dam and what we know about that and then broadly the devastation across the island. >> you mention lack of power. that's complicating the evacuation efforts. obviously, 70,000 people were last night potentially affected last night if the dam breaks. it held. roads flooded, cables in the way. overnight some good news, flood warning for all of puerto rico lifted, but still in place the 8,000 most directly affected by the dam. the broader question, of course, is for the outlying areas that had little assistance so far, how do they begin to cope. croix, a u.s. territory, to see the devastation and the sense of despair they feel to some degree left to fend for themselves.
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>> a remote world of daydreams and caribbean sand. st. croix suffering silently so far. the u.s. aid effort is only just reaching now. >> remain on this frequency. >> that is fema flying over st. croix today. making their assessment. we've just flown in from the east, where damage looks less heavy, but now west, which appears to have born the brunt of hurricane maria. from beach resort to ghost town in a matter of hours. a curfew emptying the streets. the exact time this world changed caught by the clocks broken hands. but at noon, they and their anger, at nature and a government they think is underplaying their suffering emerges. >> feel like everything is okay. everything is not okay over here. >> it ain't no aid. ain't nothing going on right about now. everybody just trying to survive. >> just two days ago this was
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paradise, but now everyone here is just trying to take stock of exactly what this new world means for their daily lives. when will the power come back? when can they reopen their business? and when will they realize, again, they haven't got to worry about what they have to eat? already the search for food. >> i think the worst was when the rain started coming in and the winds were still howling and the noises outside and not knowing. >> curfewed in. >> jamie and brandon went to the nearby island of st. thomas to help after hurricane irma, yet had their house torn apart by maria. they drive us around their devastated world. >> they told everybody to let their horses go before the storm. >> this is not a world prepared for disaster. a lost dog is lost for now. no electricity means no ice, means no business, and there are bees in the refrigerator. >> the first day after the hurricane, dodging telephone poles and trees trying to get
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here, took the generator and what we could. they wouldn't let us come out here yesterday, so we were just hoping there wasn't any looters. >> we survived. we're trying to make the best of it. >> tell them. >> what is it? ♪ i'm still standing yeah yeah yeah ♪ >> life was easy, about vacations here. that's gone. >> we went to the big grocery store on the west end, and the line was all the way out to the road. they are letting people in one at a time. >> it's going to look like this for months and months with no power. how are we even going to be able to get tourists down here so we can make a buck, so we can buy food, buy gas? i mean, what the hell are we going to do? >> the west took the full force of maria. being resorts had been their livelihood for tourism, but now is their curse. we fly over huge lines for emergency food, but when we land later, it is all gone.
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500 fed, but many still searching. you hungry? >> no. >> you're all right? >> yeah, man. i'm a soldier like you. >> later we see two huge c-17 cargo planes land at the airport, where the u.s. marines are moving in as yet limited access to the west. help is coming, but the future remains bleak, and the past a much more comfortable place. this is a months-long challenge about lives that need to be rebuilt, economies in the balance, and behind me you can hear the noise of construction, people are trying to get things together, both focused for the federal government and its support has to be there long after the tv cameras move away. back to you. >> all right, nick paton walsh for us in puerto rico. thank you so much. and we have to go from there to mexico here, because there are frantic searches going on right now, live pictures for
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you, as they look for survivors after that horrid earthquake. the death toll is approaching 300 now this morning, and families are there in tents holding out hope that the people they love, that the people they can't find, are going to be pulled out of the rubble. rosa flores is live there near one of the collapsed buildings. rosa, what are you hearing this morning? >> well, christi, some very intense moments. i want you to look behind me, because this is the first big piece of debris that is being lifted this morning here at this site in mexico city. families here, as you mentioned, have been here for days hoping and praying that their loved ones will be pulled from this rubble safe and alive, and for the first time this morning rescue workers here are using a crane to remove some of the big debris. now, a lot of the worry here was that rescue workers were going to be using big pieces of
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debris -- excuse me, big pieces of machinery to remove debris, and as some of the family members wait and look, and as you mention, they are camped out here hoping that they are going to be seeing signs of life soon. so, christi, we're going to stay here and continue to monitor these developments as these pieces of debris are being removed and hopefully we'll be seeing signs of life. >> we hope so. holding out hope for all of them there, too. thank you so much, rosa. president trump is going after arizona senator john mccain this morning, saying he is letting his state down by saying no to the latest republican repeal plan. that's not all the president is saying. copd makes it hard to breathe. so to breathe better, i go with anoro. ♪go your own way copd tries to say, "go this way." i say, "i'll go my own way" with anoro. ♪go your own way
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next week senate republicans are going to try to pass a repeal of the affordable care act, but that has become an awful lot harder now that senator john mccain's announced he's a firm no, which leaves zero room to lose more votes. john with us now, as well as steven moore, gentlemen, thank you both so much for being here. i want to start with what we're hearing from the president this morning, primarily on twitter, as he tweeted just in the last hour, couple hours or so here. he said, "john mccain never had any intention of voting for this bill, which his governor loves. he campaigned on repeal and replace. let arizona down. large block grants to states is a good thing to do. better control and management. great for arizona. mccain let his best friend l.g., lindsey graham, down." let me ask you, steven moore,
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what do you make of what he's talking about here, not just about john mccain and the support he does or doesn't have, but specifically about block grants? there are questions about their effectiveness. >> couple things. first, christi, i want to assure your viewers this is not over. i think that there's still a good chance that rand paul can be turned around. i worked with rand paul on the presidential campaign. he is fervently in favor of getting rid of obamacare. his feeling is maybe this doesn't go far enough. >> but steven, he just tweeted yesterday i will not vote for obamacare light. >> i know, i know. >> and let me get to that since you mentioned it, real quickly, the president tweeted today, "i know rand paul and i think he might find a way to get there for the good of the party." what happened between yesterday's tweet from rand paul and this morning's tweet from president trump that changed? >> the fact is, i think rand paul is holding out. he's using his leverage to get the best deal that he can, but i think at the end of the day if
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it comes down to 49, you know, 49 yes votes and 50 no votes, i don't think he's going to be the 50th vote to take this down. this is the last chance to reappeal obamacare. on john mccain, it is a little bit mystifying. there's no state, christi, in the country that's been more harmed by obamacare than arizona. you know this, arizona has seen premium increases of as much as 100%. so a doubling of the premiums. now, the rest of the country is more like 30% or 40%, so it's really been bad for people in the rest of the states, but arizona especially, and it is also interesting, look, lindsey graham is the protege of john mccain. they've always voted together, and it is kind of strange that he is abandoning lindsey graham on this, but one other thing is, look, the block grant approach, i think, makes a lot of sense. we did this. i'm old enough to remember when i was in washington in the mid 1990s, we had a bipartisan deal between bill clinton and a republican congress where we block granted welfare, remember,
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to the states, and that was, i think, almost everyone agrees that was one of the great public policy triumphs. >> that's rubbish. >> we took 60% of americans off welfare and put them into jobs. that's a pretty good accomplishment. >> i know you have a lot to say. we have to -- jonathan, go ahead. >> so, number one, i want to remind people that this isn't just about john mccain the maverick and the confection that washington likes to think about him. it's really about susan collins and, frankly, lisa murkowski who have held the line basically on repeal and replace, which happened before the skinny repeal and today. and i believe both collins and murkowski will vote no. i think this is dead, and i think portman might, in fact, vote no, that there will be one or two other republicans who don't want to see their state devastated by this crazy block grant. let's be clear, the block grants, and i'm quoting from the kaiser family foundation, so
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we're not just talking about rhetoric. this is probably one of the most reputable sources. the graham/cassidy proposal revamps and cuts medicaid, redistributes federal funds across states, and eliminates, eliminates, coverage for millions of poor americans. the republican party and donald trump do not care about killing millions of americans and making them sick. that's the reality. and it is amazing, christi, that here we are talking about the hero john mccain that all he has done is agreed to vote no on a proposal that will take away health care from millions of americans. block grants -- block grants don't work. stephen, you had your chance. >> yeah, but we did it -- >> go ahead, jonathan. >> stephen mentioned welfare. it did not work. it actually threw millions of people into poverty. that's a republican lie. welfare reform did not work, and
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it's one reason, by the way, that progressives like me do not support, if you will, clintonomics. they went after poor people. block grants hurt millions of african-americans and people of color, people i know the republican party does not care about, and if you take that same strategy and move it forward, it's again going to take away the health care of millions of people and hurt the american public. >> stephen, go ahead. >> so, i think you would both agree that the brookings institute is a pretty liberal think tank. >> that's eccentric. >> what happened after welfare reform, and i'll recite the facts. we moved -- >> not true. >> we moved 60% off welfare into work. we saw a record decline in black poverty. yes, we did. >> jonathan, let him finish. >> look, i will ask -- >> stephen, you are lying. this is a lie. >> jonathan, let him finish,
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please. >> i want you, christi, to publish this -- i'm going to give you the citation from the brookings institute, because i just looked at this study yesterday. it showed a record decline in the number of black families in poverty. it saw a record increases in black incomes, and we moved 60% of these families out of welfare into work. why was that a bad thing? and one last thing, let me make one last point, you just said this would kill -- hold on, you said -- >> this is false information, stephen. >> let him finish. >> you just said that if we did this block grant to the states, that it would lead to republicans killing people. christi, i'm old enough to remember in the mid 1990s when liberals, because a lot of moderate democrats voted for welfare reform and block grants, i remember when they said exactly the same thing, maxine waters said on the house floor this would end to children starving to death and it never happened. we shouldn't believe them today,
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didn't happen then. >> i'll wrap up for you, christi, the fact is, every reputable source, the cbo, others have said it would throw millions off health care rolls and we know that will cause death and illness across the country. the republican party doesn't care about that, i understand that, and democrats have held solidly, not a single democrat will vote for this, and quickly on the '90s, part of what happened is there was no safety net, which would happen here, there was no safety net. when there was a recession, in fact, many people fell out of work and there was nothing to support them. so the republican strategy of the 1990s to disenfranchise and impoverish people is now exactly the model they want to use here, and i urge senator collins and senator murkowski, vote no next week. >> they are as far as we know so far. jonathan, stephen, sorry, we've run out of time. i know we could talk about this for an awful long time, but thank you so much for being here. we'll be right back. get between you
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people together in an affordable, accessible way? we focused on the issue of homelessness and housing and food insecurities. it was one soul at a time. >> welcome to the jbj soul kitchen, with two locations. here, each meal is a mission. >> we have created what we call a pay it forward model. >> that would be some way you could participate and help us. >> a nonprofit within jon bon jovi's soul vocation, this location welcomes everyone at the table, regardless of ability to pay. >> no prices on the menu. if you are, in fact, in need, volunteer. that pays for a meal for you and your family. should you choose to enjoy a meal, we suggest you buy a pay it forward card so you not only affect change by paying for your meal, but the one next to you. >> you don't know if somebody is dining here because they are in need or pay it forward. everyone is treated the same. >> howard, how's that meat loaf?
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i'm michael smerconish in philadelphia. we welcome our viewers in the united states and around the world. last night president trump repeated his claim that the russian meddling story is a hoax. >> no, russia did not help me. i call it the russian hoax. one of the great hoaxes. >> the actual


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