tv Erin Burnett Out Front CNN November 9, 2017 4:00pm-5:00pm PST
from the very, very beginning. the documentary you did was excellent. thanks for your hard work. we'll stick around and see what is going to happen. that's it for me. thanks very much for watching. i'm wolf blitzer in the "situation room." erin burnett out front starts now. breaking news, the special counsel interviews stephen miller as trump's former body guard makes a bombshell observation. plus, more breaking news. the gop nominee from alabama, a crucial race rocked by shocking allegations of making sexual allegations toward a 14-year-old. is he out? s she was offended by an officials joke and she ran against him. she won. she's my guest. i'm erin burnett. outfont tonight, the breaking news this hour, special counsel
in the russia investigation reaching the top levels of the white house. stephen miller, a senior policy adviser, almost always by president trump's side, interviewed by mueller's team. he is the highest aide in the trump white house, we know of, to be interviewed by the mueller team. at issue, his role in the firing of james comey. miller was with president trump and helped him write a memo outlining the reason for his dismissal. the white house lawyer scrapped that memo, believing it was problematic. this development on stephen miller and the top echelon of the white house is as the long time body guard and confidant testifies about a russian offer to send five women to trump's hotel room during a visit for the pageant in 2014.
schiller telling the house intelligence committee, he told trump about the offer for women and turned it down. they raised the matter because of salacious details in the trump dossier. trump is about to depart beijing where he is set to meet vladimir putin at a summit t. details of that meeting are said to be worked out. assuming those two leaders sit down tomorrow face-to-face, they are going to have big things to talk about including north korea, as well as meddling in the u.p.s. election. see if the president takes him on. we begin with adam perez with the investigation reaching the top echelon of the white house. >> that's right. stephen miller is the highest ranking aide of president trump known to be interviewed by robert mueller's investigators.
he sources told us one of the topics investigators were interested in was miller's role to fire former fbi director, james comey. we know from sources, the comey firing is part of the investigation in possible obstruction of justice. they have shown interest in talking to trump campaign associates who attended a march 2016 meeting where george papadopoulos said he could arrange a meeting between trump and russian president vladimir putin. miller was also at that meeting, according to a source familiar with the meeting. papadopoulos was charged with lying to the fbi about russian contacts during the campaign. earlier this year, miller assisted trump in writing a memo on why trump planned to fire comey. they reported that was scrapped and when comey was fired, the white house cited a memo written by the deputy attorney general.
>> thank you. very important to know what that memo was. evan, thank you. i want to go to the other breaking story. the president's former body guard telling congressional investigators the then, businessman donald trump stopped an offer to send five women to his hotel room. manu rahu has more. what are you learning? >> according to testimony from the long-time body man, he told investigators when trump went to moscow in 2013 as a private citizen, a russian said he could send five women up to the room. he took it as as joke, rejected the offer. trump laughed it off as he told trump about it on the way to mr. trump's hotel room that night. schiller left the room and did not know what happened after that. now, schiller said he did not know who the russian was who made the offer but someone -- he
said it was someone in a group tied to emmitt, who was at the meeting with trump. he is the russian pop star whose father is a russian billionaire and close to vladimir putin. it was him who set up the meeting in 2016 with donald trump jr. at trump tower. erin, the lawyer for him said his client has no knowledge of this offer that apparently took place. lawmakers ask this question because they want to know if russians have dirt on trump. the dossier has all the alleged trump interactions. i want to go to elliott angle. congressman, thanks very much for being with me. let me start here with what we are learning about keith schiller and his testimony. he's saying they offered to send
five women to trump's hotel room. schiller stood outside the door then went to bed. does this put this wholing gags of women in moscow to bed? >> at least the president laughed it off and didn't act on it. i mean, this is another incident which shows the closeness between the president and the russians. i think that clearly what it's showing. that's why i support mueller and his delving into these things. let the chips fall where they may. >> the fact that an offer for five women to go to his hotel room was made and schiller says it was rejected, to you, it is significant that happened? >> well, you know, it's significant, obviously, because the offer was made. this is just one other incident that shows the closeness between
the president and russian authorities. i mean, what else can you say? we are hearing a lot of things nowadays. people are pleading guilty, people indicted. it is going step by step by step closer and closer to the president's campaign. so, you know, again, i think that mueller is impeccable in terms of his reputation and we should let him call whoever he wants to call and let him see what, you know, let things go where they may. >> on that front, stephen miller, we know, has been interviewed. the most senior person, currently, in the white house to have been interviewed. a top policy advise zer. he was with the president when the president drafted the memo about why comey should be fired. a memo the white house counsel thought was problematic and they
didn't want to use it. what does this tell you that stephen miller has been questioned? >> well, it's getting closer and closer to the trump campaign. closer and closer, perhaps, to the president himself. again, i think the more people he calls, the more there seems to be some kind of linkage with the russians. i mean, we know now, beyond any doubt, there was a connection between the trump campaign and the russians. the question is, who initiated it, how deep is it and where is it going end? everybody should want to hear the truth. >> yes. >> when mueller was appointed, everyone said he's the perfect person for the job. there are attempts to disparage him. i have confidence in him and he will do the right thing. >> we have reported, when you talk inner circles with the white house, they are asking questions in interviews with witnesses about kushner's role in comey's firing. asking people about what he
said, what he did, obviously see if it goes to the level of jared kushner, a hugely significant development. how important do you think jared kushner will be? >> well, we do know he had meetings with russians. we know he met with the ambassador. we know he met with one of the lawyers that had close ties to the kremlin. i think it's logical, again, he is someone of interest. i think he'll be interviewed, he'll be grilled and the truth will come out. i don't want to prejudge anything. i just want to say i have confidence in mueller. i think he's doing the right thing. i think he's asking the right questions. i think the truth will prevail. >> thank you very much. i appreciate your time, congressman. i want to go to chris cillizza. chris, two developments here today, right? one, stephen miller being questioned by mueller's team, highest person so far in the white house, close adviser to
the president, worked on the comey firing. shilling testifying an offer for five women to come to trump's hotel room when he was a businessman. it obviously came up in the context of the dossier. two big developments today. >> two huge developments. the stephen miller thing, you hit on it. this is closer and closer to donald trump's inner circle. the news cycle moves so fast, we forget jared kushner, they are asked about jared kushner and his ties to the comey firing, same with stephen miller. that's where this investigation is focusing more and more of its energy. the schiller thing, look, i don't know it says that much about donald trump, but at least someone in russia as manu said, schiller took it as a joke. not clear whether it was meant as a joke or if it was meant as a joke only because it was not
accepted. the point is, someone in russia is doing something, this process of gathering compromiseing information on targets. it doesn't say much about trump. >> himself, what do we know about trump himself. he is saying he is not under investigation. nobody knows whether that's the case or not. >> right. we know he called "the new york times" out of the blue to say, i'm not under investigation, please report that or please write that. we don't know much more than that. i will say, the one thing we do know is trump's insis tans that the dossier is garbage, fake news, none of the more salacious elements are confirmed by cnn or anyone else. there are elements that have been confirmed by u.s. intelligence officials. it is not all junk. it's throwing the baby out with the bath water there. it's not all junk. it is stuff being pursued by mueller, by the congressional
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touched her and got her to touch him. there are graphic and explicit details. say it again, she was 14 years old. three other women said moore pursued them between the ages of 16 and 18. he was in his 30s at this time. they called on moore to step aside. the latest, moments ago, ted cruz, who endorsed moore and senator john mccain saying moore should step aside whether it's true or not. the allegations are disturbing and he should step aside. moore's campaign rejected the allegations calling them fake news. moments ago, moore doubled down tweeting the obama/clinton machines launched the most vicious and nasty rounds of attacks against he i ever faced. we are in the midst of a spiritual value. the forces of evil will cheat,
steal and shut up christian conservatives like you and me. martin savidge continues with the coverage in alabama. martin, that is a stunning rebuke of the allegations. >> reporter: it is, but not out of character for him. i covered him many times on the alabama state supreme court, not once, but twice. he is a man who would take this on everything he stands for. he believes this is really a fight and a cause. this is just everything you would expect by standing up for what he believes is right. this is the courthouse. this is, according to "the washington post," the youngest at the time, 14-year-old girl, says where she first met him was inside here, on that bench. we came back to this town to look and talk to her and get her to tell us the same story she is telling to "the washington post." i knocked on her door, she
wasn't home. went to where she works, they say she isn't there. she dropped out of sight and said she is aware the media is looking for her. she does not want to talk, at least at this moment. we are going continue to knock on doors and continue to dig. right now, she is dropped out of sight. >> i know the reporter from "the washington post" is going to talk to us about these allegations. you have had a chance, marty, to talk to people in alabama about whether this matters. capitol hill has been overwhelming. even ted cruz, who endorsed him, said if this is true, you are out. what are voters saying? >> reporter: everybody knows it has serious implications on a dramatic campaign with national consequences. a lot oaf people, when i first approached them, they didn't know. they hadn't heard about the story. they don't know whether to
believe me or the story they heard. most of them didn't know what to make of it. some of them seemed to be supportive of the young woman who is now 53. others very much in support of the candidate. >> thank you, martin savidge for pursuing that story on the ground and out front now. one of the reporters that broke the story, beth reinhardt. i appreciate your time. your report is about four women, all teenagers at the time, making these accusations against roy moore. talk about lee, she was 14 when roy moore approached her, initiating a sexual encounter with her. what does she say happened? >> reporter: so, she says she met roy moore in the courthouse in 1979. he was an assistant district attorney. she was there with her mom for child custody hearing. she says roy moore introduced himself, offered to watch her while the mom went into the
courtroom and then chatted with lee, asked for her phone number, called her a few days later, picked her up around the corner from her house, drove her to his house in the woods, offered her alcohol and they made two -- he took her to his home twice. on one of those occasions, she says he undressed. he took off her clothes. he touched her and guided her hand to touch him. >> she was very explicit about what he was wearing, details, people can read your article but they are very explicit. she had a very clear memory of this. >> reporter: she does. >> you talked to her and other women and people in their lives that would know. you have run it down. two questions for you on this. when did you start? when did you first hear of this. i would imagine you clearly wouldn't have put this in the
"washington post" if you did not believe it all to be true. >> reporter: it was roughly a month ago when "washington post" reporter was in alabama reporting another story when we started hearing these rumors at that time, that roy moore pursued teenage girls when he was assistant district attorney, decades ago. two of us spent weeks in alabama chasing these leads down. in our, you know, when we first met, the women quoted in the story, they were reluctant to speak on the record. they would only speak off the record. you know, they know that roy moore is popular in alabama and a powerful man and they were worried about the repercussions. it was only through multiple interviews that they agreed to speak publicly and, you know, felt like they had to in order to show alabama voters that
there's another side to roy moore that they felt they needed to see. >> it's pretty shocking, 14. look, that's pedestriophile, to clear. he said thesie allegations are false. the tweet i read a couple moments ago, i don't know if you had a chance to see it, but it continued saying this is part of an attempt by forces of evil to lie, cheat, steel to silence him. he went on to mention it was about the liberal media and the clintons. what do you say to that? >> reporter: we spent a month working on this story. we thoroughly investigated everything that these women told us and many of the cases, what they told us was kor corroboraty
family members and friends. we vetted their backgrounds to see if they had a political vendetta against moore. that wasn't the case. this is a story we took a lot of time with. as we point out, these women did not come to us seeking attention. we found them and it was only through weeks of interviews that we felt our reporting was solid and we were ready to publish the story. >> beth, thank you very much. obviously a lot of hard work went into that. thank you so very much for that. let's go to the alabama secretary of state. i appreciate your time. what is your reaction to that after these incredibly damaging charges against moore? >> it's inappropriate for me to comment on the allegation that is have been made because i wasn't involved in the investigation. today since i have had a fire
storm of interviews i have had to go through about what will happen if certain things occur in the process of ballot activity and if judge moore can remain on the ballot. i have been dealing with those things all through the day. i think it's interesting and a little odd that this story is now being introduced to the media at this time in the campaign. >> these women are saying though, you heard this, they felt they had to come forward because it is of such importance. lee was 14 when she says this happened. she voted for republicans in the last three elections, she voted for donald trump. she did almost come forward in a supreme court, when campaigning for supreme court, she decided against it because her children were in school and was afraid it would be humiliating to them. she didn't donate.
are you comfortable saying you don't believe a month of investigative work doesn't add up? >> i didn't say that. i can't say whether the allegations are true or false. i think time will determine that. as more information is introduced, it will be clear what the true picture is. >> ted cruz said roy moore should step aside if it's true. he's not alone. here are 3 of 20 plus senators who said the same thing publicly. here they are. >> if there is any shred of truth to the stories, he ought to step aside. >> allegations true, to me, he needs to step aside. >> if that's true, i don't believe there would be a place for him in the u.s. senate. >> i know, secretary, the ballot can't be changed this close to the election. you can't put another name on
it, technically, but do you believe roy moore should withdrawal from the race as those gentlemen do, if this is true? >> it's a decision judge moore and miss kayla and his family and campaign team will have to make after consulting with a number of people on whether or not they need to advance their campaign. there are other things that are under consideration. the state party's position on judge moore's nomination and what should happen. the code in alabama is clear on his candidacy. he will remain on the ballot as the republican nominee because z it's within that 76-day window in the code. >> so you can't change it? >> yes, ma'am according to section 17-621 section b. >> let me ask you, secretary, you point out the state party. the state party, the gop could request that you, the secretary of state disqualify a candidate
on the ballot, even if they want to stay on the ballot. from his tweets, doesn't sound like he is going anywhere. if they make the request to you, will you honor it? >> well, he would not be removed from the ballot. then again, there's a number of other things that follow protocol if the party takes that step. if they do, we will adhere to their request and honor their request as we should, by law, then make sure that the proper adjudication of the process is adhered to as the election continues. >> if he is alleged to what he has done is disqualifying? >> most of the people in alabama would be very disappointed if someone that had been alleged to have engaged in that type activity had been proven they engaged in that activity was
representing them in any formal capacity. >> i just want a clear answer, yes, you think it's disqualify sng. >> yes, ma'am. >> i appreciate your time. >> yes, ma'am. tonight on cnn, don't miss a live town hall hosted by alison. it is a mara schiavocampo watch. next, changes on the tax plan. republicans are saying they can't cut anymore for the middle class. this is how a top white house official put it -- >> we have cut their taxes significantly. you can't go much further in the tax system. the rand paul attack case is getting stranger tonight. what really happened.
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tonight, senate republicans unveiling their tax bill. there's seven tax brackets instead of four and complications with the estate tax. it's just like the house tax bill. it's about corporate america and does a lot to help corporate america. gary cohen was on the defense today against accusations that republicans aren't doing enough for the middle class. cohen, in an incredibly telling answer, said they cut so much for the middle class, they can't do anymore. here he is. >>
the median family in the united states, a family that earns $60,000 in the united states, the speaker spoke of an $1182 tax cut. a family of four is paying less than $500.
we have cut their taxes significantly.
you can't go much further in the tax system. >> phil, both the senate and the house, look, they are fighting about a lot of things. at their core, this is about a corporate tax cut. >> reporter: yeah, look, there's no question about it. if you talk to republicans, they talk about middle class tax cuts. a centerpiece, the centerpiece of the plan is a dramatic cut in the corporate rate. erin, there's bipartisan agreement that the corporate rate is too high. it's the scope of the cut, how dramatic it is slashed is raising concerns. what john harwood was trying to lay out, why do something this dramatic when perhaps you could give financial aid elsewhere. here is where republicans diverge from democrats, that is it will spur investment and grow
wages. that is difficult to show in a tangible manner as you are trying to sell the bill. democrats are unified in opposition, republicans who are staring at in the five, six, seven year future time frame, individual cuts for people change into individual tax increases are questioning, is is this really going to create the growth, particularly on the wage side that will actually help this plan? if it doesn't, republicans are in a bad place right now. erin, i tell you, why you see house and senate republicans doing this, it is extraordinarily important to the president. the president wants a 15% rate. something the republicans couldn't afford. he made it clear, the corporate rate is one of, if not the most important part of the plan. >> thank you. one for republicans is the estate tax. senior economic adviser of the trump campaign and gene sperling. okay. steve, let me start with you.
john harwood asked the question i thought so well. he basically did the math. add up the business tax cuts and the estate tax, it's $1.2 trillion. then the cuts for individuals, regular americans and you get $300 billion. that's four times more going to rich people and corporations than to regular americans. that's how he phrased the question. let me play the operative answer from gary cohen one more time. >> $60,000 earner, family of four is paying less than $500. we cut their taxes significantly. you can't go much further in the tax system. >> really, steve? >> well, it is true, erin, that if you look at the tax system today, it is highly progressive. we have one of the most highly progressive tax systems in the world. people make less than $40,000 aren't paying much income tax today. one of the things we do in this plan, erin, millions of additional americans will take
their income tax liability to zero. if you are -- let's take a family that makes $85,000 a year. in a lot of places, a schoolteacher married to a financial person. that family is going to save $2500 to $3000 a year. that's significant. i would simply say this, we have talked about this on the show before. we do believe the business tax cut is central to this because we think that the system we have today is putting america in an uncompetitive situation. we have seen business zs leave the united states. if those businesses do come back and the factories come back, that is going to be good for workers. it will raise z wages because there will be more jobs. >> there's been a lot coming back, that's a separate conversation. the overall point is, did steve convince you or is it better to look at it is four times more when you look at the amount of money spent on the tax plan,
four times more goes to rich people? >> i think what steve said, what gary said is telling. their view, they might as well say this to any struggling american out there, the number one problem in your life, the number one thing they want to do for you is give a major cut to the corporations of our country. it's not that we have a different philosophy. over 16 years, corporate profits almost doubled while employee compensation has gone to nearly a record low. there's been no connection. so, what they are doing is they are saying the main thing we are going to do for your wages, we can't give you more of a significant tax cut as gary cohen says, we are going to unconditionally give the same major companies hundreds of billions and we are going to hope and pray they do more. most people are saying give us a tax cut for child care, for jobs, for skills, for things
like infrastructure that directly helps americans. >> can i play what gary cohen said? he used the words trickle down. he says that's what it is rksz he's not ashamed to admit it. >> workers get paid more. workers have more disposable income. the workers spend more. we see the whole trickle down through the economy. that's good for the economy. >> steve, can you tell me why, if you give a corporation a tax break they would spend it on wages as oppose zed to executive pay or buybacks or dividends or just -- i mean, why do you think they would give it to people for raises? >> the congressional budget office, my friend gene would agree, it's honest. i think it's against us. the congressional budget, look at advise your viewers to go to the report on their website that shows they estimate when you cut
the corporate tax rate, 60% of the gains of that goes to the workers in the form of more jobs and lower wages. we have a system that encourages -- let me finish. when companies leave the united states, they don't pay any wages to american workers. they paying wages in china, ireland, mexico and japan. we want to bring the jobs back to the united states. >> it's going to be cheaper to hire people there no matter what you do to the tax code. >> that's not true. we know a lot of these companies are leaving because of the tax code. they can pay half the tax if they go to china or mexico than here. they tell us why they are leaving. >> all right. can i make one last point before we go? i have to get both of you to weigh in on this. there's a loophole not on the table. there's a lot of wheeling and dealing going on. the golf loophole. this is a tax break for people
who oun golf courses. if you build houses across from it you get a tax break worth $600 million if it's close. we know who is beneficiary of this. steve, why can't things like this get closed? >> you know, this is my frustration with this bill, frankly. you know, i think there's a lot of good things, but i wish the republicans would have been more aggressive in getting rid of these incredible loopholes that go to mostly rich people. i wrote a piece saying why can one of the richest men on the planet give $18 billion to his foundation and gene, that's money that was never taxed, not a dime of tax. that should be taxed. >> gene, you agree with him on the golf hoop hole? >> when you look at the simplification loopholes, you see a lot about people's values. you see a $448 billion loophole for people paying a lower rate
who are not small businesses, just well off americans, nearly a half trillion dollars. $170 billion for an estate tax cut that goes to people over $11 million. at the same time, they are going to take away the medical deduction for people dealing with alzheimers or children with cancer. these, you know, simplification is a word that hides value choices. the value choice in this bill is to benefit the most well off and corporations and the middle class, the working families are an afterthought. many are going to get their taxes raised and find themselves getting $5, $10 tax cut. >> i have to leave it there. i have to leave it there. i have to leave it there. we'll be back. thank you. next, i'm not guilty plea today from, i'm just going to keep going. the man accused of breaking six of senator rand paul's ribs. was this fight really over yard
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his lung. they say it's impossible to believe it was a feud over lawn clippings. the paul's haven't talked to the suspect for years. drew griffin is out front. >> are we going get an explanation? >> reporter: he silently entered court and pleaded not guilty and slid out the back door with his attorney, avoiding a dozen members of the media trying to get one question answered, why did you do it? he is accused of blindsiding u.s. senator rand paul last friday, tackling him while the senator was cutting his own lawn landing him in court and the senator recovering from six broken ribs and fluid around his lungs. for 17 years they have been neighbors, sharing this property line in a gated community just outside bowling green, kentucky. an investigation is continuing and his fourth degree
misdemeanor assault charges could become more serious due to senator paul's injuries. >> the bond conditions include 1,000 foot stay away, 200 feet stay away if he is at his home. >> reporter: he is a retired anesthesiologist and democrat who has anti-trump messages on his shutdown facebook account. paul is a staunch republican. that is enough to fuel right wing speculation, senator paul was attacked for political reasons. the senator piling on retweeting two articles that raise politics as as motive. rene's attorney say that is is all bunk. >> this has nothing to do with politics, any liberal versus conservative or republican versus democrat. it's just not about that. it's a personal dispute between two neighbors. >> reporter: the attorney says the motive was in line with what cnn already reported, that the
two men who share this lawn have a long-standing dispute over landscaping. senator paul's advise zer, not providing more detail says, not true. as to reports of a long-standing dispute with the attacker, the statement read, the paul's have had no conversations with him in many years. the first conversation with the attacker came after senator paul's ribs were broken. this was not a fight, it was a blindside, violent attack by a disturbed person. >> they had not spoken in years. i'm certain you can have a personal dispute without having spoken. it has to do with the maintenance of each other's property and the disagreement that two neighbors, two adjoining neighbors had over that. >> reporter: capitol hill police came to bowling green, kentucky
to interview rene asking about the attack and the fbi is interested in the case. as of now, this case remains local, in the criminal courts of kentucky and do not involve politics or federal charges. erin? >> drew, thank you very much. next, winning an election, the best revenge. a political newcomer defeat the incumbent after his putdown inspired her to run. she's outfront. anthony boar dane who changed how and what we eat in this country. >> complete re-evaluation of not just american food and ingredients, but food. (avo) when you have type 2 diabetes, you manage your a1c,
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for them to cook dinner? just asking. didn't go over well with women in new jersey. dozens confronting him at meeting demanding apology. here is how he responded. >> i am and always have been a supporter of women. i'll grant you, i made a bad choice. in bad taste but it was just that, a joke. >> just a joke. next guest was not laughing at it. instead deciding to run against carman and she won. show you video when it was announced you won on tuesday night. how did you feel that you actually pulled it off? >> well, thank you erin for having me. i was so shocked. i wasn't expecting it by any stretch, and so i think i'm
still shocked at this point. i've pretty much -- that is kind of the trend this entire process for me. i never expected to do this. so then to win and have the support of my family and former classmates and former teachers and friends and neighbors has been everything to me. truly humbled and grateful. >> i know you were motivated by the facebook post, woman cooking dinner and comment about women's protest being over in time to cook dinner. here he is at meeting you attended because you were angry at this. >> you know what this has made me realize? how blessed i am. women i'm surrounded by, my family, friends and colleagues, are all strong, confident women who are sure of themselves.
didn't get offended by this. they looked at it, they looked at it, saw it for hadwhat it wa. if it hurt your feelings, wasn't intended. wasn't posted. >> okay we're leaving. >> you were there. and among the women we see walking out here as he was saying that. what was it about those comments that made you decide to go from being a concerned citizen, someone who showed up to town hall, to actually run against him? >> sure. what happened was i had wrote him a letter when i first saw the post and didn't get a response. so i went to the meeting, and i waited to hear what his response was going to be to everyone who showed up. as you showed, that's what we got, the people that he surrounds himself with were strong. in turn means what to the rest of us offended by it?
are you saying we're weak? i didn't like that. so i walked out because i took vacation time to come from work to hear what he had to say. and it just felt like a waste. i walked out. and i went home and i was still upset about it. and my family said why don't you run? i said why don't i. because it comes down to whenever there's something that is offensive, we always tell the person who is offended, lighten up, it's a joke, don't be so sensitive. but never talk to the person doing the offensive thing or saying the offensive statement to not be so offensive. so why is the accountability always on us? >> you turned the tables indeed ashley with your big victory. congratulations and thank you for being with us. we wish you best of luck. >> thank you so much, thank you
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