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thanks for being here, i am ana cabrera. robert mueller's team could be days away. the two sides could meet as early as this week to discuss the ongoing investigations. i want to bring in evan perez who helps break this story on cnn. evan, what do we expect to be discussed this week. >> this is a meeting where the president's legal team basically have the special counsel team puts their cards on the table. they want to know where this investigation is going and in particular whether or not or how much longer perhaps this maybe going or whether or not there is any interests in anybody else inside the white house. at this point there is been a lot of speculations about whether or not this investigation is going to
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ultimately target the president and i think one of the things that they want from this meeting is get a better sense of not only how much longer it is going to go because it is a cloud over the president and the administration for the past year but also, you know, how much longer or what avenues are left for this investigation to pursue? >> according to your sources, the reporting that they have reason to believe that this is going to be a good thing for the president. >> yeah, if you talk to the people at the white house, they say there is no there and they are sure that robert mueller is going agree with them at some point. they're hoping this is a meeting that they could get a sign that's the case. now, the problem here is that again this is the president's legal team that is thinking this and robert mueller is a prosecutor who's got a lot of experience in his past.
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he's not really, you know, there is a requirement for him to give -- >> there is no requirements for him to show all his cards at this point. we know there are attorneys and investigators specifically assigned to the question of obstruction of justice, right? that's a big question and not only the firing of james comey but also the trump tower meeting last june with don jr. meeting with the russians promising dirt on hillary clinton. it is a big question looming overall of this. the president's legal team jay sekulow is going to go in there. they hope to have a better sense of where things are going. as you know the president and his supporters are getting impatient. they think this is gone on long enough and the iron of that being and this is only seven months since robert mueller have been in charge of this investigation and there is four
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people who's been brought up on charges. this is moving quickly but not fast enough for republicans. >> also, important to note in the reporting that the president and the vice president, neither of them have been interviewed by robert mueller's team at this point. >> exactly. >> evan perez, thank you for the reporting, i want to bring cnn, adam sanchez at the white house of robert's future, what can you tell us? >> reporter: this concerns dating back to messages coming from the white house. just a few days ago, we had the president saying that what had happened to the fbi was a shame and lamenting the state of the fbi, he was delivering messages that were exchanged between fbi officials during the 2016 campaign and which they criticize the president very forcefully and among others as
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well and they criticize attorney general eric holders and bernie sanders. conservative republicans have taken these messages as a sign that robert mueller's investigation is tainted. one of those officials were on robert mueller's team and later be reassigned. you have democrats including ad adam schiff saying that they fear that these growing calls from republicans for mueller to resign may indicate that somehow mueller is dismissed. as the white house consistently said for months there was no consideration os of firing of t special counsel. if the white house are planning to fire mueller while democrats
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say this is something that they m happen. it makes it that much more significant. >> boris sanchez at the white house, thank you for that reporting. lets bring in michael zeldon. he works closely. and so they have ties with robert mueller and i know you know mueller and how much would he be willing to tell trump's attorneys about his case and where it is at? >> zero would be my guess. mueller is not about to reveal anything to john dowel who i think he does know and he's an institution in washington and a long time crime lawyer and well respected.
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mueller is not going to tip his hand and it is going to be, i think a disappointing meeting for dowel if that's what his expectations are. with respect to the story, i think what's important, ana, to know who asked for the meeting. if it is a meeting that sekulow and dowel asked for in a sense of status call hearing then i think they won't get all that much from mueller. if mueller requested them to come in, it is more likely to say that this is what i want from you and that's under oath testimony from the president. dowel and sekulow only represent the president. they don't represent the white house. they are the private counsels for r the presidethe president states. >> they are not the white house's counsel. >> we don't know who requested the meeting, we do know according to evan's reporting
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and the sources that he had verified the information with. the president have not been asked to interview with the special counsel or the vice president. the other reason they are optimistic about the president's situation is because a lot of the do you means have not had a direct connection to the president. what's your take? >> well, i think that after evan's reporting is agreeable with me, all of those that you recited, i would say "yet," yet is important. >> it does not mean he's not going to still ask for it and there are a lot of things that are still in play from what we can determine from the public record, most notably in respect to the president and personally is obstruction of justice and i don't know if mueller is at a point yet, seven months in that he can make that determination
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and everything also hinges on what is flynn telling mueller and how they completely debrief flynn to know what they need and still follow up from the white house. i think it is still optimistic on the part of the white house that this is going to be sort of the beginning or the end of these inquiries. >> we have to see. >> sabrina, hecongress schiff i worried the republicans will shut down. the one scheduled for next week is out of state during the votes on the tax bill. congress members can actually do those interviews. they have to send staff members. is there evidence that the republicans are trying to under mind or stop the investigation? >> i see schiff in the way that republicans and some of them in congress have talked about the
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investigation. you are starting to see more and more republicans in both the house and the senate suggest that the special counsel is biassed and mueller is stepping out of his bound and they are not providing any evidence to truly under score and truly support the notion that this is some kind of witch hunt. that's the terminology that we have seen for the past few months from if president. i think what was telling, what was leading the house intelligence committee investigation to russia, when he was asked by the new york times if he was moving and the investigation quickly. he said he had no reason to apologize for concluding the investigation so that sort of suggest that they are looking to wrap this up quickly and i think that there is more bipartisan action when it comes to the parallel investigations, the real question will be as their supporters of the president who tried to delegitimize the
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investigation. >> michael, on that note, do you think mueller's investigation took a hit this week with the revelation of text messages that were speak negatively by one of the investigators by the russia's team that's been removed. >> to the extent that this special agent of the fbi sending text messages of paramore. this agent was on mueller's team for a short period of time. as soon as mueller advised of it, he removed this guy. i don't think there is any tank of this guy brings to the investigation. i understand what people want to combine e-mails of clinton and the mueller's investigation.
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in reality i think that this is not relevant to the integrity of mueller's investigation. all right, michael zeldin and sabri sabrina sadiki, thank you both for being here. >> the biggest legislative victory since the presidency started this past january. we asked trump supporters now how they feel about the president's tax bill. stay with us, you are live in the "cnn newsroom." you can't predict the market. but through good times and bad... ...at t. rowe price... ...we've helped our investors stay confident for over 75 years. call us or your advisor. t. rowe price. invest with confidence. guess what i just got? ♪ ♪ hello again. hi. ♪
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president trump predicting the tax code plan is about to go before congress and benefiting people looking for work. this will be great for jobs and fantastic for the middle income people and jobs. if you look at the whole thing, everybody is going to benefit but i think the greatest benefit
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is going to be bringing jobs to the middle class. >> now these are just a few of the main points of this tax reform bill that may get a vote in the house and senate as soon as tuesday. cnn mark savage took to people to see if people voted for trump last year to see if they are still on board. >> reporter: how many of you like the tax plan you are hearing? >> things start slow. i got one. >> i guess it is okay. it is not a huge saving but it is a saving. >> it is a savings and everyone is going to get a savings. >> i don't know about me personally. >> potentially i believe it is going to be good, too. >> reporter: what do you think you are going to save? >> 1,000 or $2,000 a year.
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>> reporter: that may sound okay. >> it is not a big thing when you spread it throughout the year. >> reporter: i reminded them what candidate trump promised us. the other disagreed and citing all kinds of numbers and especially the deductions that's expected to double. >> that's huge. >> reporter: amy is a teacher and she did not vote for trump. she does not like the tax plan and worrying for those who are not rich or the middle class. i believe it is going to be hit hard with us, too. we are kind of ignoring the population. these factory workers all realize the companies they work will benefit the most and that's okay by that. >> i am hoping in good faith they'll use their money to invest in the people and to hire more people and expand their
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businesses. the thinking is if the company does better, you all will do better. >> it brings everybody else from the bottom up. >> reporter: virgil, do you believe that? >> i believe it strongly. >> reporter: what about the deficit? >> maybe not short term but i am hoping in long-term. >> reporter: you are taking a is a is -- a risk? >> i sure am when i voted trump. >> reporter: they also said they like him to be a uniter and less of a divider but they say it is not just him. they blame the country as a whole as being partisan than polarized. every man says they support trump even more strongly today than they did when they voted for him. >> mark savage in detroit. thank you. joining us now stephen moore
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and the ceo of small business, robin gandhi. stephen, explain to me where the final version is going lead to the middle class benefit that the president is tauting. we see there is a lot of benefits for corporations. >> yeah. >> hi ana. by the way, i agree with that one gentleman in the previous segment that wished trump would not tweet so much. i think there is wisdom and the other gentleman who was interviewed. the idea that we hope that the businesses and companies that get this tax cut is not just for companies, they're going to get a sizable tax cut. that'll be used for reinvestment. when i started to talk donald trump about this two years ago. that was the whole idea behind this. lets make america's business is healthy and profitable and giving them more cash and hire more workers and pay them more.
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we expect that'll happen and we'll see a healthy 2018 with a lot more jobs and opportunities for american workers. >> robin, you are one of those business owners, are you going to reinvest and hire more workers and give pay raises? >> no, not with the tax increase. what the fiction of the trump add menstruation ministrations administrations, i am highly concerned of the middle class and the thing is every year i already hire people and invest people. they're going to give me a ton of money and the issue is companies like mine and aggregate have $2.3 billion in cash right now. we have more cash than what we know to do with. when i get the money, i am going to invest more real estate which is going to exacerbate the wealth gap. my big question is why did the trump administration choose to
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give $1.5 trillion to the top 1% like me when we have $22 trillion of debt in this country. we have a middle class that's hurting. why not take $1.5 trillion investing in healthcare and investing in that holy grail infrastructure that he campaigned on. they got it completely backward and i think what we saw last week in alabama was what we saw in virginia which is a lot of people bamboozled by mr. trump in campaign of this economi economic -- and story it is going back to democrats. i hope congress shifts in 2018 so we can finally get partnership. >> how do you feel that the theory may not be realized? >> well, look, i go across the
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country and have talked to businessmen large and small for the last two years and they say exactly the opposite of what robin is saying. if they have more cash and more profits and they get this tax cut that they are going to file that money back into the business and that's what small business wants to do. they grow into a larger business and so you know i think this is an out liar company. most businesses, hire additional three or four workers or paid better benefits or if they have more cash, that's typically what they do when they have more money. when companies are financially stressed, they cannot add more workers and expand operations, they have to lay off workers. we discovered that in 2008. >> that's not where we are at right now. we are at a 17-year low unemployment rate. the president likes to point out that the stock market is skyrocketing and reaching record highs. the fed raised interest rates
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for the third time this year. why does corporate america need the help? >> is that a wonderful thing? i remember a year ago i remember being on this show where everyone said trump is going to crash the economy. >> the economy boomed and have not crashed. part of this either euphoria out there and one of my favorite statistics is small business through the roof and national federation and independent business said last week that they have smaller business confidence. >> i am sorry to interrupt, i am running short on time, can you answer my question. >> here is what stephen does not want to say is that i look at the numbers ohnumbers. the bottom 20% of this country that needs so much help, they are going to see a slight tax
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increase. >> that's not true. >> it is absolutely are. >> i think i know the plan. >> that's why it is unbelievable. >> hold on, one at a time. hold on, hold on. >> robin, finish your thought. >> i have no problem if stephen moore or donald trump wants to give $1.5 trillion. what ghouls me is the -- mr. trump is saying me and my rich funds is going get crushed. that's a lie. what we saw in alabama is a reflection that people are starting to see and realize that wait a second, i voted for obama twice and i shifted to trump, that's why he won the election. wait a sepcond, i'm siting here with my middle class jobs and no one is helping me with education and trying to take away my healthcare. that's absolutely ridiculous.
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>> okay. >> i just wish this administration would be a little bit more honest. >> stephen, we got 30 seconds, finish it up. >> every one who pays taxes, if you pay income tax, you are going get tax cut. there is high income people and tax states that may see a reduction in their tax. we double the deduction and we give a thousand dollars per child. robin, i don't understand how that's a tax increase. >> robin, i got to give it right there and i know this debate will go on. >> what i love about america is we get to give our opinions. >> thank you, too. >> merry christmas you guys. >> you, too. >> allegations against harvey weinstein came to light, steven spielberg is now speaking out and why he says we have a long way to go with women's rights. next.
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a journalist came to the u.s. after getting death threats from the cartel he reported on and deported back to mexico. earlier this month, he and his 24 years old son is detained and handcuffed by i.c.e agents. paul sandoval have been joining us and disicussing this. >> the full scope of this story, i need to take you back to the summer of 2008 that's when
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gutierrez asked for help. he wrote a series of stories alleging corruption in the military. not well after that, gutierrez tells me that he was suspected that he's targeted by some of the drug gangs that you mentioned or the government itself. so he fled to the u.s. with his son and seeked f for a asylum. last week, immigration court denied that request. it was not until last thursday that state was issued as we were about to hear from his attorney that he's working to consider gutierrez's case.
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>> there is no protection by the mexican government and even though in writing they have all these laws to protect journalists but in practices, there is no resources. we think this case has merits and that the appeal's court will see that the judge's decision s is erroneous. basically, he had fear and at this time, i request asylum. he always followed the law and entered legally. >> an important point here, journalism in mexico is now one of the most dangerous place to
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one of the biggest names in hollywood is tell cnn of the big sexual harassment have been running around in decades. >> steven spielberg sat down with us about this. >> i was shocked but i was not surprised. if you have peripheral vision, you are going to sense these things out of the corner of your eye. you cannot know that this is been going on rapidly for, i cannot even tell you how many decades. this is something that has been dealt with today and the courage in these women that are coming forward, i have never seen anything like it. >> i want to bring in chloe
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molass joining us now in the way that he's speaking so candidly. >> this is a snippet of a bigger interview of steven spielberg that's going to air in january. we sat down with people having movies coming out and it is for the post about the pentagon paper and the washington post and just to hear him talk about everything that's been going on when it comes to harassment and the rapid issues that we see have been existing in hollywood for so long. he calls it a national reckoning. we are living in the midst of a movemen movement. he has never seen change faster than the past six or eight weeks. he's been making films on it in 50 years and to hear him talk about it is incredible. >> it is interesting of the fact that somebody in a position of power himself where he kind of put his neck out there to even address the issue. >> because there is so many ways he could have skirted this
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question and i mean you know, he said that when you are on movie sets, you have any sort of peripheral vision, you knew something was going on. he said he's shocked but not surprised. >> that's not the only thing he weighed in on. this movie also does not tackle freedom of the press but when it comes to women's issues and you have katherine graham plays by meryl streep of the washington post of 1972, you walk away from the movie saying has much changed sense thechang changed since the '70s. spi spielberg had something interesting to say about that. >> kate graham pretty much shattered an important glass ceiling. we still have a long way to go. we are not anywhere near where we should have been based on the relationships that men and women have and the way women are
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perceived by men or the way power is used or abused. things are changing and they are changing faster than i have every seen changed. >> ana, although women have made great strives and making our voices me heard, we have a long way to go and women need to keep on calling out to justices. the fight is not over. >> does he talk about why the change is happening now? >> you know a lot of people are wondering that since donald trump is president right now with these issues have been coming out to surface quickly. a lot of issues that are tackled right now and it is hard to say why it is all happening as we are living in this moment. it is really nice to say people like steven spielberg weighed in on issues like this. so many men of high power are not willing to speak out.
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>> khlchloe melas, thank you, is good to see you. we'll be right back.
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how are president trump feeling like the republican party after they lost to alabama. >> we gather a group of voters of virginia and alabama. the state that flipped to democrats to get their temperature and their predictions of 2018. >> how many of you think of what happened in al babama of what's
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called the blue wave is democrats riding up. wa what do you think? >> everyone is saying oh gosh, what republicans are doing to get trump in office, democrats are saying whatever they did we are going to do better. >> if tthey got to get rid of b and henry. they can get the workers back. >> i just don't trust the republicans period. >> the republicans shake shethe hands and stab you in the back. donald trump and steve bannon is the reason why we lost the race. >> it is not a party thing. i think humans in alabama voted for humans. alabama is not full of hate or god as a weapon.
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the next person that's elected in the midterm for the president, is about the person and not the party. >> it better be. >> it should always be. >> in a perfect world. >> do you think this race had national implications? >> yes. >> it shows that the people are not really -- i think the raps a raps -- republicans are on their way out. as long as they are donald trump there, they'll continue to lose. >> you were all donald trump's voters, how many of you today regretted in part? >> three of you have regrets. mike, you are interesting, did you really regret it the next day? the day after he won? >> after hearing about him talking and the way he was coming out of the cia and he just began to turn me off right there and then. >> so inauguration you
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began to regret it. >> he changes his lines so often and sometimes he says and does things just to change. he does not think of the consequences. >> everywhere from obama to clinton and to bush and all of them. it was just the same thing over and over and deeper deficits or more government interventions and spending and more messing up the world. i see something different in trump and he's doing everything he said he would do. >> saudi arabyou changed your p order to vote for donald trump. you were inspired by him. >> i love the fact that he's an outsider and not em bbedded in e political system and that i give my hat to him. >> but now you regreatet it?
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>> yes, some of the things and especially his cuts in the arts. those programs were hugely impact full on my life. >> the other interesting thing that i should mention about you both is that you are married to each other. >> yes, ma'am. >> so you are now a someone of a regrettab regretter and how is that going? >> goes fine. >> we are true intelligent people and understand that politics are not it all. at the end of the day, we have different opinions and we still love each other. >> when it comes to an african-american -- african- american are being slaughtered in this country by policemen who are not prosecuted and to polarize america society and make it look like it had something to do with the national anthem and failed to listen to the reasons why they were protesting.
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>> donald trump alienates people and next day he's trying to justify himself. he keeps on alienate people as he goes along. how do you think republicans are going to win if there is an election tomorrow. >> that leads me to the next question. we'll play a little game. you will finish the sentence. >> so in the year of 2018 will be the year of blank. >> well. humanity. >> i think that the world needs to take note, we are done. we are done. >> done with what? >> hatred. pure and adult hatred, just the way you look or dress or how you act -- we are done! it is a human thing now. >> you are hopeful. >> i believe in people.
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>> steve, 2018 will be the year of. >> i think what she just said. >> you are hopeful, too. >> that's pretty powerful. >> you are hopeful, too, you are optimistic. >> gymjim mymy, what do you see? >> i don't think republicans are not going to hold the power. >> it is the economy. >> so mike, 2018 will be the year of what? >> of democrats. >> oh, we are still thinking of party. >> they can win back virginia and alabama is an indication that they are on their way. i don't know how people can vote for republicans. >> 2018 will be the year of? >> it is going to be the year of progress. >> darius. >> the year of americanism. >> what does that mean? >> meaning kind of what she says, there is no parties. again, me coming up in urban areas and being with a single
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mother and little sister, i see one side hiding under tables from gunfight outside and her trying to give us a better life over here. there is connections with the people that we are landowner whether it is white or black or spanish. we did not have these problems. i hope with your political talk that we can just kind of tamper it down and start bringing people together and start understanding similarities rather than focusing on differences and get to a better place. some breaking news now, just coming into cnn. another member of congress stepping aside of sexual harassment allegation, we are talking about democrat of nev a nevada, kihuen, he sexual harassed two women. he firmly denies the allegations. he looks forward in clearing his name. coming up, we'll have the latest
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you are in the "cnn newsroom," i am ana cabrera. new this morning, president trump announcing there is no plans to fire robert mueller who's leading the russia investigation. we are learning that president trump's lawyers are planning to
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meet with mueller and detect signs it is ending soon. lets get to boris sanchez and our justice correspondent adam par jer p perez is with me in new york. what is this coming from of firing mueller? >> all of this is stemming from several comment that is were made by the president and the republicans. just a few days ago, the president was speaking to reporters lamenting what he sees of the state of the fbi saying that it is a shame what is happening to the fbi and he was alluding messages back to 2016 during the campaign that was critical of the president among other lawmakers and one of those officials ended up becoming part of the mueller's special coun l counsel. after

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