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that's working well for the gop. to make that decision without the president's support is a troublesome thing. >> he says he's the great dealmaker. it will be a challenge to put this deal together and make it work. thank you very much. that's it for me. i will be back at 5:00 p.m. eastern in the situation room. meantime the news continues on cnn right now. >> announcer: this is cnn breaking news. we pick it up right here on this monday afternoon. listen, you have seen it. big breaking news this monday. we are waiting for the white house briefing to start as the senate reaches a compromise to end the government shutdown which as you all know is in day number three. a short time ago the senate passed a key vote by an 81-18 margin to advance the bill to end the shutdown. the final vote will be expected in a little bit. the leader of the senate democrats gave no credit to the president for the end of the
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impasse. >> president trump's unwillingness to compromise caused the trump shutdown and brought us to this moment. the facts are well known. since our meeting in the oval office on friday the president and i have not spoken. the white house refused to engage in negotiations over the weekend. the great deal-making president sat on the sidelines. >> let's go to cnn congressional correspondent liz rafati live on the hill. how did they find a solution and what did the democrats get out of this? >> reporter: that's the big question, brooke. a contingent of democrats are asking that question today even though, yes, this is a good thing they are pushing towards keeping -- re-opening the government and keeping it funded for at least another three weeks. there is a sect of the
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democratic party that's saying what did we get for all this? the agreement here essentially gives them more time. today, a lot of democrats had to come out in the senate side and vote to keep the governent funded for the next three weeks. they felt they had a pledge from mitch mcconnell to continue negotiating and working on daca and hold the vote on the immigration plans before february 8 when the end of the new spending bill takes effect. we heard from senate minority leader chuck schumer this morning on the floor before the vote. here's what he said. >> the republican leader and i have come to an arrangement. we will vote today to re-open the government to continue negotiating a global agreement with the commitment that if an agreement isn't reached by february 8th, the senate will immediately proceed to consideration of legislation
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dealing with daca. the process will be neutral and fair to all sides. >> you heard chuck schumer use the word "commitment." democrats trying to hold mitch mcconnell's feet to the fire saying he's made promises in front of the world on this big stage. we hope he holds firm to that. you have a lot of, of course, politics at play behind the scenes here. just talked to richard shelby. he thinks democrats over played their hand and this is the off ramp, that they didn't get much out of the deal. senator jeff flake has been key in the negotiations. he said the extra time is helpful and we hope this happens. but he said at the end of the day we have just re-opened the government. there is drama around the vote today and re-opening the government is important, but this in essence is something
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they brought on themselves. >> sunlen, thank you very much. we have been listening to different members of congress in response to the impasse. here is virginia democrat tim kaine. >> i think my critique of this place is everything is run by the caucuses. of course i want the caucuses to be strong. i strongly support my caucus leader. there's got to be noncaucus space where people can work together not just with folks in the same party. all of us in the room felt the same way. we are sitting around in susan's office again and again, dispatching to talk to the leaders, coming back, doing the same thing, shuttle diplomacy. we have a strong degree of trust in each other that we want this outcome of opening the government and finding permanent protection for d.r.e.a.m.ers. even in the room said we have to find permanent protection for d.r.e.a.m.ers and that's important. in terms of trust in mcconnell or you could ask the republicans, trust in schumer, we think this group of 30 helps
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with that. everybody can remember a slight this or that happened in the past. it's unproductive. if you have a bipartisan group of 30 to say, look, we'll support you. we need to move forward, do the issues. we have big budget issues to resolve. today we opened government. we got six years of funding for c.h.i.p. which is deeply important for virginia. we got the guarantee to take up the issue of the d.r.e.a.m.ers on the floor. we didn't get it friday night and we didn't get it until really this morning. >> to those who say democrats caved -- >> there will always be critics just like there were critics about shutting down the government who were afraid of social security disability checks or whether they would have a job to go to. one of the senators said one of the staffers, my most recently hired staff said i can't pay my rent if the government shuts down. this is not a minor matter. there will be critics left and
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right and you can have a different point of view about these things. i get that. look, i have always been for the d.r.e.a.m.ers since long before i got into public office. my goal is to make something happen. i think given this set-up. we know he's in the white house. it might be different if circumstances are different. but we are living in a reality, i think is the most likely path to find a solution for d.r.e.a.m.ers. you know, i hope they stay at the table. i hope they lean on senators and house members and we get a good senate bill passed. we need their energetic actors to make it come out the right way. >> we have dana bash standing by. out of that tim kaine sound. one of the words i heard over and over was trust. this key question, can the democrats trust the word of the senate majority leader mitch mcconnell. i want to read a quote from the house, congressional black caucus chairman blaming chuck
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schumer for making the issue about immigration saying senate democrats are, quote, getting their butts kicked. are they? >> well, i don't think there is any way to see this as a win, at least in the short term. we might be in a place a month from now where the democratic leader chuck schumer might be able to stand up and say it looked like we got our butts kicked back then. i know the base was mad at me. look where we are now. >> mm-hmm. >> it's impossible to know in this environment if chuck schumer can get from there to here. there is no question that there are many people in his own caucus, not the majority, but many people who were vocal and have a lot of ambition for 2020 who aren't happy with this whole process. the decision to lead the charge to say we are going to stand
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firm and then three days later say, okay, fine, we'll agree to re-open the government from their perspective without getting real hard assurances. >> mm-hmm. >> i have to say for my reporting those voices in terms of the elected members in the united states senate are a minority compared to the democratic senators who appear to have been urging their own leader chuck schumer to just trust this, go for this, do this. >> mm-hmm. >> not so much because of what mitch mcconnell said but the talks going on behind closed doors for the last three days with a group of about 25 republican and democratic senators which is no small thing. that's a quarter of the u.s. senate. >> sure. >> we'll see if at the end of the day schumer can say, i played the long ball. but, boy, if he's looking at his twitter feed, he's not happy
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now. >> it's long game versus short game. we can't see into the future, crystal. i know we wish we had super powers. but what do you think chuck schumer got out of the republicans? >> just to day that's point quickly, i'm never happy when i look at my twitter feed. i feel your pain, chuck schumer. >> i thought you stopped following me, chris. >> never. >> you love the trolls. >> i do. they love me. i think what you get here is dana is right about potential short-term pain for -- actually, no. actual short term pain for potential long-term gain. >> long-term gain, yeah. >> chuck schumer will get hammered on this by the left who view it as a capitulation and rightly so. chuck schumer said on saturday no three-week continuing resolution and we need agreements on planned slovotes issues including daca.
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mitch mcconnell is saying it is my intention to do these things and it is not the same. the way he gets long-term gain, speaking of schumer, is they get some sort of daca/border security funding deal that looks overwhelmingly favorable to democrats. you know, if you see $8 billion allocated to a border wall and some daca protections, i don't know that -- that happens on february 6th. i don't know that chuck schumer has a victory here. i can't imagine a clean daca vote. just daca. just the extension of the program coming up. even if it did in the senate. there is no way that goes anywhere in the republican house. i know chuck schumer knows this, but mitch mcconnell's sway over the house is not considerable. i think it is hope in the unseen by chuck schumer, a hope that mcconnell is good to his word which he may well be.
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and then -- and this is the harder part, think i think -- t house and trump, the least predictable element, find a way to do what democrats want them to do. could it happen? sure. but it is a lot of ifs to shut the government down for three days. >> you bring up the president and i want you both to stand by. we are waiting for the white house briefing to begin. the president's role or lack thereof throw all of this. we'll talk about it. also standing by for the white house briefing any moment. this is cnn. we'll be right back. they came out of nowhere, sir! how many of 'em? we don't know. dozens. all right! let's teach these freaks some manners! good luck out there, captain! thanks! but i don't need luck, i have skills... i don't have my keys. (on intercom) all hands. we are looking for the captain's keys again. they are on a silver carabiner. oh, this is bad. as long as people misplace their keys, you can count on geico saving folks money.
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it distracts from efforts to ensure the lasting defeat of isis. it could be exploited for resupply and safe haven and it risks exacerbating the humanitarian crisis. we urge turkey to exercise restraint in military actions and rhetoric, ensure that its operations are limited in scope and duration, ensure humanitarian aid continues and avoids casualties. we want to assure assad's regime doesn't return and we will work to end the syrian civil war. in afghanistan where terrorists attacked a hotel in kabul, such attacks on civilians only strengthen our resolve to support our afghan partners. we commend the swift effective response of the afghan security forces. afghan forces with our support will continue to relentlessly pursue enemies of afghanistan who also seek to exporter error around the world. we call on pakistan to immediately arrest or expel the
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talib taliban's leaders and prevent the group from using pakistani territory to support its operations. lastly in regards to the government shutdown we are pleased to see senator schumer accept the deal president trump put on the table from the very beginning which was to responsibly fund the government and debate immigration as a senate issue. we have a statement from the president of the united states here that i will read. quote, i am pleased democrats in congress have come to their senses and are now willing to fund our great military, border patrol, first responders and insurance for vulnerable children. as i have said once the government is funded my administration will work toward solving the problem of very unfair illegal immigration. we'll make a long-term deal on immigration if it is good for the country, end quote. with that, i will take your questions. jonathan. >> how is the president going to work with democrats when he's running a campaign ad calling them complicit in murder?
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how is he going to show leadership on this? >> look, the president's number one focus is our national security. he's been very strong on discussing the need for border security and tying that directly to national security. that's a big focus of both the president's campaign at the time and also since he's become president. in terms of specifics of ad running, those aren't done by the white house. i can't get into details. his position in terms of the need for border security and how it impacts national security is something we have been clear on. >> is he bringing the democrats down here, bringing republicans here, hashing this out? how will it be different? we didn't see him over the weekend. he was only talking to republicans. obviously if there will be a deal by february 8 it needs to be a deal with democrats. >> look, we have been very clear about what we want to see in any legislation. i don't think there is a lot of
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daylight between where we are and where the democrats are. we want to negotiate and get to a place. we are hopeful we can do it over the next couple of weeks. >> senator schumer claimed the deal that was on the table for mitch mcconnell was much different from the one last week. how did the ball move forward if it did at all between friday night and this morning? >> look, i think democrats realized that the position they had taken frankly was indefensible and that they had to focus first on funding our military, protecting border patrol agents, funding vulnerable children through the c.h.i.p. program. these are things they didn't disagree with. they agreed with everything in this c.r. the president stayed firm. republicans stayed firm. democrats, thini think, realize they had to move past that piece of legislation to focus on the conversation they are desperate to have.
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>> so is it your contention the deal chuck schumer lauded today is no different from the deal on friday? >> i don't see it to be drastically different, no. >> just so we understand, is there and was there no interaction between the president and the campaign committee in the creation of the ad? did he approve it? >> that's something i wouldn't be part of the process. i couldn't speak to it. >> it's an important question. >> it says donald trump approved the message. >> i would refer to you to the campaign. >> would you describe that as an accurate representation of his belief about what democrats are and what their position was during the shutdown -- that they were complicit and would be complicit in future murders because of the shutdown? >> if people are unwilling to secure our borders, they are unwilling to end chain migration, end the visa lottery system, unwilling to fix all of the problems with the immigration system and aren't
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things to fix the system that we know to be problematic then, yes, that would be a problem and certainly allow future incidents to take place. john? >> is the two-year requirement required from the president for defense spending going forward one of his top goals for the budget negotiations going forward? not just this fiscal year but two years on defense? >> look, i'm not going to negotiate with you here. we made clear that it's certainly our preference. >> the president several months ago called on congress to provide a legislative fix for 700,000 or soda ka re s daca re. is it a clean bill or would he insist upon funding with the border wall with mexico? >> we want to make sure the administration has laid out what
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we want to see. a solution on daca into chain migration into the visa lottery system and funding for border security would include the wall. >> on another issue i believe tomorrow is the beginning of the final round of negotiations concerning nafta -- the north american free trade agreement. how are the negotiations going now? what we are hearing is they are not going well, they haven't been going well for the first five rounds. is the president prepared to pull the u.s. out of nafta? >> look, we don't have any specific announcements. we feel things are moving forward. we are going to continue in those negotiations. as the president said many times before, he'll make sure he gets the best deal for america and american workers. that's still the focus and that will still be a topic of discussion as we move in the negotiations. dave? >> after this shutdown episode, does the president feel like he can deal with democrats anymore? for example, senator kuhn
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implied over the weekend that the president didn't know the difference between authorization and appropriation. there's been other leaks about conversations behind closed doors. what is the president's level of trust with the senate democrats going forward? >> i wouldn't say it is the highest level of trust. we are certainly hopeful that we can reach an agreement on responsible immigration reform. we have laid out what we want. we hope that democrats -- we know they agree on most of those components. we hope they'll come to the table ready to make a deal and less focused on playing political games. >> you have the budget, infrastructure, other big things to get done. will that be possible after this fight? >> we hope so. we hope democrats, again, will not play politics and they'll focus and put the needs of the country ahead of the political gamesmanship they have been playing over the past couple of months. we hope to move the ball down the field on a number of issues starting with the budget moving into immigration. peter? >> would the president support a
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pathway to citizenship for d.r.e.a.m.ers? >> we have said we would support a permanent solution for those in the daca program. i think that would address that. >> to be clear you must have some position on this. the president clearly has conviction on the issue. does he support this divisive issue -- a pathway to citizenship for these individuals? >> the number of people in the program, we hope to find a permanent solution to address that. >> legal status versus pathway to citizenship or doesn't it matter to the president? >> that's part of the negotiation process. we want a permanent solution for the program. we also want to keep -- a big priority for the administration is making sure we don't find ourselves having the same battle in two, three, four, five years down the road. we have to have a responsible immigration reform that addresses a number of issues, not just the daca program. >> i want to follow up on that. you said you would be open to legal -- permanent legal solutions for the 690,000 people
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in the daca program. what about beyond that? there was a story last week that said an internal white house memo estimated that what the democrats want would potentially legalize 3 million d.r.e.a.m.ers. where did they get the number and what is the limit the president has on how big the population of d.r.e.a.m.ers is? i think the d.r.e.a.m. act would legalize 1.7 million. where do you draw the line? >> i'm not going to negotiate any more with you than i would with major. this is something to work on with congress and look for the best solution for our country as long as, too, again, don't forget a big priority for this administration is making sure we address this program in its entire entirety, not just the one piece of it. >> you said "this program accounts. there are certain people who had the protection and other d.r.e.a.m.ers didn't apply for various reasons. is the white house open to addressing a deal in this go
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around for a population larger than just those with daca? >> we are open to having a debate on a level playing field on this issue and negotiating that with congress and making sure we get the deal that meets the criteria we have clearly laid out. blake? >> one clarification. the president is still planning to go to davos? >> if all things go as expected this afternoon with the re-opening of the government which we expect they will the president's delegation leaves tomorrow and the president will continue on his trip later in the week. >> the priorities of a daca fix, where exactly does that rank when you talk about what needs to happen for a deal -- diversity, visa lottery program, the wall, daca, ending chain migration. the actual daca solution, how big of a priority is that one component for the president? >> we look at all of those as
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equal parts in this process. that's why we laid out what we called our four priorities and listed that as one of them. >> so a daca fix is on the same level playing field as the wall? >> we know it will be part of the negotiation. that's something the president has committed to do. we don't want to do that without the other three components. it's like having a stool with two legs that doesn't work well. we want to make sure we are addressing this more fully and in a responsible way so we are not just kicking the can down the road but dealing with the issue more long-term. steve? >> we haven't seen the president in a couple of days. what's he been doing behind the scenes as this drama unfolded? >> look, we put out a number of readouts he had, several calls both with members on the hill. he's met with a number of his cabinet to manage the shutdown. that was a big priority for the president. it was making sure this was well managed and that it wasn't as director mulvaney calls it
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weaponized as it was in 2013 and making sure we could make the impact of the shutdown have as little effect on americans as possible. that's been a big priority for the president. it went much smoother than in the past. also, the president was putting pressure and standing firm on what he was willing to do and what he wasn't. it clearly worked. we are back where we started on friday basically. the democrats have now allowed this to move forward. hopefully the house will move this through quickly and it will be at the white house for the president to sign. we can start immediately on discussions on immigration reform. >> when will we see him? >> we'll keep you posted. we'll certainly make sure you guys are aware when that time comes. >> will we see him sign the thing? >> certainly possible. we'll let you know. the timing of that isn't finalized. we have to wait on the house
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piece. there is also omb and legal reviews that have to take place before it actually finally hits the president's desk. a little bit of that is a timing and formality issue. >> will we see him today regardless of what the house does or doesn't do? >> we'll let you know. maggie? >> just going back to the nafta discussions does the president still have faith in wilbur ross? >> absolutely. i spoke with the president directly this morning. he has 100% confidence in secretary ross. he loves wilbur, thinks he's doing a great job and has been a strong advocate for the administration and been a great leader when it comes to the trade discussion on steel, aluminum, and certainly his involvement in trade across the board with the administration. >> the president was clear back in september when he said d.r.e.a.m.ers have nothing to is that still the case? >> i think we have been pretty clear that we want to find a solution on the daca program.
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we are going to hope that democrats are willing to work with us to make sure we actually resolve this issue. john? >> there are a lot of d.r.e.a.m.ers in this country who are living on pins and needles, not knowing what their fate is and has in store for them. what's the white house's message? >> they should storm capitol hill and protest there. that's the place that's held up the discussion. democrats are the one that shut this discussion down by forcing a government shutdown, by being unwilling to fund the government. we lost four days over this process of the conversation that should have been focused on immigration reform fighting over this c.r. if they had been part of the solution instead of part of the problem we would have already been further down the road in our negotiations on that package. hopefully we won't have problems like that in the future. john? >> thank you. two questions. first, the obvious. congressman tom cole, a member of the republican leadership
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said over the weekend that to a member republicans in the house were committed to the three priorities the president laid out in the process of re-opening the government. is the president in cement on those three in the negotiations that are going to follow ending chain migration, the ending of the lottery and appropriations for the wall? >> yeah. we have been clear. those are our priorities when it comes to immigration -- >> nonnegotiable? >> these are the priorities we want to see in the package. we'll negotiate it with congress. we have been pretty up front. i think i have said it 30 times already today. those are the priorities and principles we have outlined that we want to see in any legislative package the president signs. >> my other question, sarah, is on a different subject.
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m monsanto and behr are preparing to merge. their ceos met with the president. many fear this is going to lead to a monopoly for them and in the seed industry and raising the prices hurting the farm community. is the president in favor of the merger? >> i'll have to get back to you. i haven't spoken to him about that. >> i understand you guys laid out your criteria for what you want in a deal. is the president saying on march 5 he doesn't get what he wants from the democrats in those other areas he will begin to deport d.r.e.a.m.ers? >> we haven't determined that. we are hopeful we don't have to do that and we don't have to get there. we would like democrats to get serious about solving problems. they say they want to have the conversation, negotiate, so much so they were willing to shut
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down the government. if they are that willing to go that far surely they'll come to the table and talk about real solutions and get something done. the president enforced the law. that's his job as commander in chief. he did that. >> one other question -- >> let's be clear. that's because of congress's failure to actually address the issue. they are the ones that actually pass and make the laws. the president gave a six-month time frame in order for them to do that. now i think all of america is counting on them to show up and make sure it happens. >> one more. the president's son eric said the shutdown was a good thing for us meaning politically it was a good thing for the president and the party. does the president agree? >> i haven't spoken to him about those comments. >> what's the guidance on how soon workers could expect to come back to work and national parks and other closed facilities would re-open?
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>> most of the parks, they tried to keep open. unlike other shutdowns they tried to minimize impact on the american people. as far as the turn around time as we said earlier we are waiting on the house to vote and clear. then it will go through the omb budget process and a legal review to the president's desk which we expect late afternoon, early evening which would make most government offices already closed so they would start back in full capacity tomorrow morning. if that changes we'll let you know. that's what we tentatively expect at this time. steven? >> i want to give you a chance to respond to the criticism senator schumer lobbed over the weekend. saying negotiating with the president is like negotiating with jello. today he said the great dealmaker sat on the sidelines. was it a concerted effort for
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the president not to reach out this weekend? >> what the president did clearly worked. the vote came in 81-18. i would say the numbers are more in the president's favor than in senator schumer's favor. i'm not sure what changed for him and what he gained other than maybe nancy pelosi taking republican members out to dinner to celebrate their shutdown. i'm not sure what other positive things came out. >> democrat members? >> i'm sorry, yes, democrat members. >> just following up on that in addition to chuck schumer saying the president negotiates like jello, he wasn't clear on where the president stood when it came to negotiation priorities. is the president shifting his policy positions behind the scenes under pressure from his conservative base? >> not at all. the president and the administration have laid out clearly in a three-page memo what the priorities are, what the principles are for this process. we have been very consistent on
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that front. >> is there veto power? >> jason miller doesn't work in the administration. the only person with veto power is the president. thanks, guys. >> and she's off. let me bring back dana bash and chris cillizza. it's important to go back to her first talking about a meeting between the president and the democratic leader in the senate, chuck schumer, saying schumer accepted the deal that the president initially put on the table. is that the case, dana? >> if that's the case why didn't the president take yes for an answer? >> i don't know. >> i wasn't sure where that was going at all. it didn't make a lot of sense. it sounded like what she was saying was that the way senator schumer described the last sort of 12 hours or so before the government shut down was he thought he had a deal. he did agree to the demands
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that -- many of the demands the president put on the table and yet the white house pulled it back. that didn't clear things up for me at all. i think it made them, if possible, a little bit more muddy. >> what do you think, chris? >> no commitment on a pathway to citizenship as it relates to daca. republicans believe they won here. i don't think donald trump did a lot, candidly. maybe it was a strategy. i'm skeptical to give strategy credit when he often just does things. he was not heavily involved and told cnn that was a good thing. >> right. >> i think if you look at this, dana and i were talking before the press briefing, brooke. i just really don't see what chuck schumer got today versus what was on the table on friday. it feels roughly like the same thing.
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the c.h.i.p. six-year expansion was there. he said on saturday he wouldn't accept a three-week c.r. li that's what this is. you are putting a lot -- a lot if you are chuck schumer and the other democrats who voted for this on mitch mcconnell's word and intention. that's the word he used sunday night and this morning. my intention is to proceed to daca. it will be a level playing field process. even if he holds to that and he may well before february 8. there is the other chamber that republicans control. >> right. >> and a guy in the white house named donald trump who is a republican. >> yeah. i'm surprised. >> when i heard -- i want to hear from you, dana. talking about diversity visa, ending chain migration, the wall, daca. but she wouldn't elaborate in talking about a permanent solution but not necessarily a pathway to citizenship.
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i'm left with a cartoon with the head spinning around. how will this not be groundhog day in three weeks because of your point about the other chamber and the house? game it out. what do the next three weeks look like? >> listen, that's a good point. because we have seen what's happened when the republicans and democrats have relied on the president to show leadership, my sense in observing both mitch mcconnell and chuck schumer and talking to sources around them is that this is taking the reins back and trying to force a solution. mitch mcconnell has a history of doing this. it's different now. he has one of his own party and the us who. but he was the guy who struck many deals with joe biden when he was vice president. they kind of forced it down the throat of the house republicans. again, it is a different
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scenario now. there is total republican control. but there is a history and an ability for mitch mcconnell along with his republicans in his caucus who want to get a deal and democrats who also want to get a deal to make it happen. i go back to the point that i have made so many times and one that sarah sanders didn't clear up today which is how is the president going to get it over the finish line? they can pass what they are going to pass, even with a big giant majority. it's going to be up to the president to help give house republicans cover for anything that passes the senate that looks and smells like what the republican base would call amnesty. >> yeah. >> to add to day that's point, at the end of the briefing sarah sanders said, i think the president got what he wanted. whatever he was doing was working. he wasn't -- i mean, ask republicans in the senate. he wasn't doing much of anything. >> the negotiations were all on
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capitol hill. he was on the phone -- >> chuck schumer said in the statement on the floor announcing an agreement had been reached, i haven't talked to the president since the meeting on friday. >> let's call it what it is. the president stumbled into a political victory here. >> right. >> he did and he did it with the help of mitch mcconnell working with chuck schumer and the pressure chuck schumer was feeling from democrats in his caucus who wanted this resolved because they felt they were losing the battle. >> he needs to do more than stumble into victory in three weeks. >> particularly in the house. >> that's substance, not politics. >> in the house he has potentially, as dana mentioned, the only way to get the house republicans on board with this -- i don't know if trump could, but to say i need this, i'm behind whatever deal emerges on immigration, i need your votes. i don't know if it works. it almost certainly doesn't work without him. >> yes. we are listening to hear his message. it matter.
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especially the house republicans will be looking. chris cillizza and dana bash, thank you very much. ahead on cnn we'll talk about the role of one of the president's most controversial advisers who senator lindsey graham said disrupted everything -- this guy, steven miller. also ahead we take you live to one of the landmarks defying the shutdown by staying open. we are live on a ferry boat near the beautiful lady liberty next. my lineage was the vecchios and zuccolis. through ancestry, through dna i found out that i was only 16% italian. he was 34% eastern european. so i went onto ancestry, soon learned that one of our ancestors we thought was italian was eastern european. this is my ancestor who i didn't know about.
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government shutdown or not, the nation's most powerful business is open today. new york governor vowing the
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chaos over the last couple of days in washington will not shut down lady liberty. he said we won't let them close the statue of liberty. the statue of liberty is one of the greatest new york attractions. the state will pay the cost of operations to the department of the interior. let's go to liberty state park. allison cosick, a beautiful shot on this monday afternoon. vowing to stay open no matter what. >> absolutely, brooke. vowing to stay open no matter what. the statue of liberty, ellis island were closed on saturday and sunday. governor cuomo made an arrangement with the interior department to open monuments back up. you can see beautiful lady liberty over my shoulder here. we were pulling up to ellis island as we speak. what's interesting is you look at new york harbor and think about what happened here. back in 1892 through to 1954,
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more than 60 years, million s 1 million immigrants went through here on ships. the first thing they saw was, yes, the statue of liberty. very poignant. [ audio interruptions ] >> i think we lost her. i said it was a beautiful shot too soon. we see the point and we are glad lady liberty remains open. allison cosick out on the hudson river. as we wait on a deal to re-open the government for three weeks lawmakers have to decide what to do about d.r.e.a.m.ers. republican senator lindsey graham who put the bipartisan plan on the table is blaming one specific white house adviser for the roadblock. senator graham said steven miller convinced the president to adopt views that are too extreme to negotiate. >> the reason we yanked these
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things back is mr. miller -- i have known him for a long time. i know he's passionate and an early supporter of the president. i'll tell you, his view of immigration has never been in the main stream of the senate. we are never going to get there as long as we embrac concepts that cannot possibly get 60 votes. one of the concepts i just completely reject is that we have too much legal immigration. mr. miller wants to restrict legal immigration at a time when we have a worker shortage where a declining population, we need more legal immigration. >> a little bit of background here on miller. he was the architect of the white house's first travel ban. he is one of the president's primary speech writers. with me to talk more about this central figure, this survivor from the west wing is cnn special correspondent jamie gangell and with me alex conant, former white house spokesman
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under george w. bush. great to have you on. jamie, this 32-year-old former senate aide turned influencer -- right? within trump's inner circle. republican senator lindsey graham calls him an outlier. is he? >> first of all, that's republican senator lindsey graham. it is very unusual for someone to call out a staffer in this way. he may be an outlier to lindsey grah graham. i don't think he's an outlier to donald trump. he worked on the campaign. he's written speeches. let's remember, donald trump ran on immigration. this is immigration.
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he's so frustrated. they share similar world views at all. >> sounds to me, we are reading more about him. this goes back to ap history
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class and senior year of high school, according to his classmate, this is how he felt for a long time. alex hit on it. he says one of his longest service adviser. why do you think he has such the power. >> well, we are told that president trump likes him and likes his combative style. one of the things that's interesting here is alex is completely right about where he is on immigration verses those in the senate who's been trying to make a deal. donald trump was about building the wall. they've been singing the same song for a long time. there is something that came out in the last news cycle about him. you will see critics of stephen miller calling him president
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miller. when was the last time we saw president steve bannon. no, when you want to needle with the president, that's the kind of thing that you do. >> yeah, cannot be out shishine. we have seen so many people have gone when it has. >> alex, i want to ask you on the passing and clearing and opening the government back. how do you see from the perspective of republicans, are they secretly saying, chuck schumer, we got you where we want you. >> look, this was a big short term win for the republicans. we got basically everything we wanted to get here and the democrats have nothing to show for it. i say it is a short term win because presumptively we'll be back in the same situation a couple of weeks from now and again, we want a deal with the dreamers issue but i don't think
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we are closer of having an agreement on that. it is highly likely that the government may shut down agadow over the same issue. it is bad for everybody clearly of this and worst for the dams. i don't know if there will be a guarantee for the democrats again in february. >> alex conant, see you in three weeks. and jaime gangel. thank you very much. we are also getting some breaking news from the pentagon. a russian spy ship has been spotted off the coast of north korea. what's going on? we'll find out. we danced in a german dance group. i wore when i first got on ancestry i was really surprised that
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the guild awards, of the me too movement dominated. a woman chosen ever to host the award, kristen bell joked about being the first lady of hosting. >> you know there is never been a host for this award show before. first time, first person, first lady, right? i honestly never thought that i would grow up to be the first lady, but you know what, i kind of liked it. i think my first initiative as first lady will be cyber bullying because i have yet to see any progress made on that problem quite yet.
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>> ouch. both men and women talked to the podium called for truth and change. >> this is cnn's breaking news. top of the hour, you are watching cnn, i am brooke wall. a short while ago, the senate passed a key vote to advance the bill in the shutdown, a vote on final passage is for a little bit now. a leader in the democrats gave no credit for the president's for the end of the impasse. >> president trump unwillingness to compromise and caused the trump shutdown and brought us to this moment. the facts are well-known. since our meeting in the oval office on friday, the president and i have not spoken. the white house refused to