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the evidence is now really incontrovertible in the russian domain. >> nch launched a misinformation campaign to it wreak havoc on america's political system. >> how many times do i have to answer this question? russia is a ruse. >> why can the russians go to this trouble to help his campaign?
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to try to get to that crash cited. we wi -- site. we will get you more as soon as we get it. president trump is implying agents mishandled a tip about the florida school shooter because the agency is too focused on the russia investigation. >> the allegations are striking but the timing is also key. survives and their parents three days after a massacre at their school raellied to demand toughr gun laws. the president shifted blame to the fbi saying it's spending too much time investigating his presidential campaign and allegations potential collusion here. the president called florida officials last night about the attack. >> cnn's dan merica joins us from florida near the president's resort where trump is spending the long weekend. he is getting criticism for the tweet he sent late last night,
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dan. >> president trump has come down here. he has done the presidential things which includes, you know, visiting the school, visiting the hospital that were impacted by this parkland shooting, but he is also doing things tweeting late last night about -- excuse me. about the blaming the fbi for mishandling a tip that they received. now the fbi admitted that they had gotten information on the shooter in parkland but they did not follow through fully on tip. you mentioned president trump tied that into the fact that he long running campaign against the fbi and let me read what he tweeted late last night. very sad the fbi missed all of the multiple signs by the florida shooter. this is not acceptable. they are spending too much time trying to prove russian collusion with the trump xaun. is there no collusion.
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get back to the basics and make us all proud! what the president is doing is using this shoot and admit mistake by the fbi to undercut this russian collusion, something he has done really the entire time the russia investigation has been ongoing. president trump additionally kind of slammed his national security adviser h.r. mcmaster who is in europe saying the indictment that went through step-by-step all of the campaign of misinformation run out of this russian troll farm. h.r. mcmaster said the evidence is incontrovertible and something we have not hert from president trump so far and trump saying he left something out and this is what he had to say.
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so gnar we have not heard president trump say what he is doing with this. pins much of what was done close to president vladimir putin and something we are waiting to hear from. the white house did issue a statement the president has tweeted about it, but we haven't really heard a full response from him. president trump is going to be meeting with house speaker paul ryan today at mar-a-lago. we are expecting something to come out of a tweet or something but unclear if we will see part of that meeting but certainly be watching does paul ryan bring up the indictment and does something come out of that in regards what the trump administration is going to do to respond to what russia did during the 2016 election. >> dan, thank you. joining us is tom fuentes and cnn political analyst julian zeleny. good morning to both of you,
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gentlemen. and former assistant director of the fbi. legality me start with you, tom. what do you make of the president connecting what happened in florida and what everybody says is a terrible mistake by the fbi and the russia investigation? >> with all due respect to the president, it is one of the dumbest things anybody has said in relation to this horrible tr tragedy. to say one or a few employees in the call center in west virginia made a tragic catastrophic mistake, which is admittedly what happened, to say that was because they were distracted or busy on the russia collusion case is absolutely ridiculous. >> because, to that point, i mean, the gripe was that the tip never got to investigators, so if it never got to investigators, how could they be distracted? >> correct. we don't know exactly what broke down. was it the technology in that center? was it the employees themselves? we don't know. the 35,000 employees of the fbi,
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throughout the world, are not all working on the russian collusion case. certainly not the employees in that call center. >> it's not like the agents who were investigating this case are on leave from their tip line job? >> no. >> just to be clear. i think people are receiving the president's tweet who may think this there is a huge rush of resource to the two investigations and director ray reminded everybody last week now there are more than two investigations going on in the 37,000 employees of the fbi are doing a great job, he says, and we will play that a little later in the show. >> so, julian, i want to bring you in on the conversation. i think that this all just underscores where the president has stood on this russia investigation from the very beginning. afternoon and i do want to throw out the tweet from chuck grassley last my. telling him to quit the cyberwar
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fare interference in our democracy. the question for you, julian, it almost feels as when you hear what mcmaster said, what you're hearing other fellow republicans are saying, this administration essentially is left to respond without the president's leadership here. how unusual is that historically? >> extremely unusual. when you have a national security problem of this sort, and it is a national security problem, to learn that russia was interfering in 2014, and we know they are planning to do so again. to have the president remain totally silent, other than to use this issue somehow to attack the fbi and to avoid a discussion of gun control in florida is kind of astounding and what is astounding is the rest of the administration is no longer willing to be quiet about the threat.
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they are talking openly about the facts, while the president is talking really about false things. and so you do have a disconnect. some republicans are finally saying something. that said, will there be any more forceful response to the president's silence from the gop? we don't know. >> tom, the president's allies and staff there at the white house have said consistently that the president's criticisms of the fbi is directed at leadership. how do you read this tweet about the tip line and missing that call or following up on it? do you read that as criticism of leadership as well? no, absolutely not. there is no senior leaders at the director or what we call the seventh floor level of fbi headquarters. they are not out in west virginia taking phone calls. so if we have a mistake made, which we apparently do,
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obviously, do, it's not in relationship to the leaders in washington and what decisions they are making policy guidelines or overseeing complex cases or that. so it's just really there is no relation. so these kind of criticisms now are directed at all of the fbi which is rank in file from the lowest level support employee which may be what happened here in the call center case, all the way to the top. but to keep making these kind of connections is is not correct and to tie it that everybody in the fbi is somehow preoccupied with the collusion case is probably, again, the most ridiculous thing anybody could say about what is going on. >> do you read this as the president does not know the difference between the tip line employees and those who are tasked with investigating for robert mueller's team? or he knows and is intentionally trying to mislead people? >> whenever a major event
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happens whether a school shooting or a plane crash or train crash or anything in the news, one of the first things we hear is the president has been adviced what is going on in this case. fountain president doesn't know, i don't know where that fault would lie or what notification breakdown is occurring there, but if he doesn't know what happened or what possibly happened or how many people are involved in this call center mistake, then he could be looking into that. but to just put something like this out that basically insults the entire fbi over what admittedly is a tragic error in what happened in this case, is just -- it's really not fair to the entire fbi and it's not fair for him to mislead the country about the nature of the way the fbi is working, which he is the executive of the united states government. he should know exactly how this breaks down. >> just really quickly. briefly on that point. let's get -- take the tip line
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and what happened in florida out of this for now and just a larger big picture question. for americans who are seeing, you know, all of the headlines about the russia investigation, does he, at all, again, minus the tip line, does he at all raise a valid point as to whether such a large complex investigation like the russia investigation, does it all take any resources away from people in the fbi looking at any other issues in general? >> what we have seen in the mueller investigation is that resources from the fbi and the department of justice and other agencies were assigned to robert mueller. now no one else anywhere else is directly involved in that investigation other than the mueller team. i worked for robert mueller my last seven years as an executive in the bureau. he runs a tight ship and that is why every single announcement of an indictment of anybody in connection with the mueller investigation has come as a huge
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surprise to the entire media, to everyone, because there have been no leaks and it's been so tightly controlled and still is. so this is not a bureau-wide investigation at all. it's not like a 911 or something where practically every resource around the world is devoted to it. this is a tight-knit team controlled by robert mueller almost leak-proof, as we have seen. even when rosen stein announced he was holding a press conference to announce the indictment of these russians. no one knew what it was about. they are speculating what it was about. >> julian to you. this is another example of the white house attempting to shape and frame the president's response to an issue and then the president usually on a saturday, often at mar-a-lago, sends out a tweet and diverts the entire conversation into another area. no one was connecting what
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happened in florida and that missed tip with the russia investigation. >> absolutely. and that is why, you know, the ongoing discussion that we always have about whether the president will be controlled, the answer is always no. and twitter has given this president a kind of power to act independently of his own staff, of his own advisers, that we haven't really seen in presidential history. and he uses it and he uses it aggressively. so, ultimately, the narrative from the white house will come from the president, himself, and that ranges from political issues to national security issues, and he has constantly undermined his own team and we are seeing it this weekend. >> all right. julian zeleny and tom fuentes, thank you both and we will continue the conversation throughout the morning. >> thank you. president trump seems at odds with his own national security adviser. what does this mean for the white house moving forward a ?
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the washington examiner. good morning to both of you. samantha, let me start with you. forgot, in quotes there from the president, but it would be really unusual for the national security adviser to say something like that. one, it's untrue and, second, it's a political statement. so it's unlikely that general mcmaster forgot to say all of those things? >> exactly. i worked two no national security advisers and they typically don't forget to say things in carefully crafted speeches like the speech that general mcmaster gave in munich yesterday. i felt it should be coming from vladimir putin feed and not the president of the united states. we have a tweet that, against undermines a key u.s. national security official, general mcmaster and it includes misinformation and inaccuracies and alleges there was no collusion and that the investing is not over. and, again, trying to show divisions. that is a tool out of the
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russian's tool kit. instead, this is what the president of the united states is doing? you have to wonder why. >> samantha, you were saying that trump's tweets, they actually play into the hands of putin. >> indeed. >> and intog tdoing the work fo. explain why. >> we know that the russians, directed by vladimir putin are in creating confusion in the united states and demother-in-lawalizid the president undercut general mcmaster saying he forgot something and made an offensive comment about the fbi a few hours ago, indicating that they can't investigate what the breakdown in protocol related to the parkland shooting while concurrently working on the russia investigation.
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i'm reading these tweets and confusing pe ining and he is ta page out of the putin's playbook. >> what we read a few moments ago the president's tweet saying the fbi were distracted by the russia investigation, they needed to get back to business, this president also has called on or at least criticized the justice department for not investigating uranium one and hillary clinton's emails and on and on and on. >> one thing about these indictments is that it does not address the dnc hacking as well as the podesta email hack ings and gone to wikileaks while they point out no americans knowingly colluded with the russians, it could be absolving hillary clinton's campaign in a sense, specifically what the charge that president trump makes that hillary clinton colluded with the russians. so, of course, we don't know
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exactly if these indictments completely absolve the trump campaign, but as far as we know, that hasn't really been addressed with respect to them colluding with the russians. >> do you get any indication that with this indictment coming out and these details, as far as just how sophisticated these russian trolls were, any indication that he will actually feel the pressure to do something, in other words, more sanctions? >> well, he did have the opportunity to impose more sanctions back in january and chose not to. and i think that an area of concern going forward in how president trump handles our relations with the russians. of course, i spoke to members of the senate who believe that this is somewhat of a card he is carrying in the back of his pocket to use in case the russians misbehave. >> if that wasn't misbehaving
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what we saw in the indictment, i don't know what is. do you think this gives him an extra nudge? >> possibly. i mean, the thing is that, you know, according to the people i spoke to in the senate, basically, not im -- more additional sanctions on russia is a tool to kind of get them to behave and, in their view, they think the russians are now behaving since president trump has been in office. >> passage of the law but the -- >> in the same law the sanctions against north korea and iran which were imposed. >> samantha, out to you. what does this tweet, the president now going directly for general mcmaster, what does this mean for every member of the national security infrastructure who is in front of a camera? i mean, will they have to answer about emails and uranium one and the podesta emails and what is all listed here, the dnc in the president's tweet? >> i'm sure they are nervous about this but i can tell you
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went to work at the white house for yur answers he never was worried about the president of the united states would be tweeting about mere inaccuracies. i think that there is concern from folks that i've spoken with at the white house about legal proceedings and whether they are going to be caught up in any kind of investigation related to any number of issues. again, let's be clear. that distracts away from any time retention that they are paying to actually doing national security work. >> samantha and siraj, thank you for joining us this morning. today on "state of the union" with jake tapper, congressman adam schiff and governor john kasich are on the show with jake tapper today on
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"state of the union" at 9:00 a.m. on cnn. in florida, they are demanding tougher gun laws at this rally. we will let you hear what they have to say. plus, the politics of gun control. what could the impact be in the november mid terms? that is all coming up.
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fountaif the president want come up to hme and tell me it ws a terrible tragedy and i will ask him how much he received from the national rifle association. everybody taking donations from the nra, shame on you! >> very strong words from a survivor of the florida school shooting to the president. you saw the huge crowd there. you'll see more of it that turned up at the rally calling for laws to ban assault weapons.
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>> this banner seen flying over miami beach read, shake on you, marco rubio, and the nra. rosa, live from parkland, florida, tell us more about the emotional rally we just saw. >> there is so much pain in this community that students took all of that pain and put it into words. they are asking politicians for gun control. they want the type and the style of weapon that was used here to kill 17 students to be banned. they want high capacity magazines that are used for maximum carnage to be banned and they directed mayor message to voters, asking them not to vote for lawmakers that are not for gun control, especially those who are funded and who fund their campaigns by the nra. and senior emma gonzalez had this powerful message to say. take a listen. >> politicians who sit in their
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house and senate seats funded by the nra telling us nerve could be done to prevent this, we call b.a.! >> reporter: she also said why is it more difficult for us to plan what we want to do on a weekend than it is for others to buy guns and ammunition? >> rosa, the principal of stoneman douglas has a message for the people. >> reporter: it's not normal for parents to have to bury their students and same for the principals. they see the students as their children. he had a strong message to youtube to thank his staff and law enforcement for arriving so quickly. he also had this message for students. take a listen. >> eagles, i promise you, i will
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hug each and every one of you as many times as you need and i will hold you, as long as you need knee to, for all 3,300 of you and your families and we will get through this together. our community is strong. our students are strong. we will persevere in these trying times. >> reporter: and very trying times, indeed. we learned from the broward county public school's website they will allow staff to return to this campus by the end of the week. but you can imagine, that, in itself, is a difficult thing for them to do. >> the president also spoke with the mayor there in parkland. do you have any idea of what he said and what that conversation was about? >> reporter: well, president trump called several leaders here in this community to offer him condolences. as you mentioned, he spoke to the mayor and a commissioner to
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thank them for their leadership and he also called the principal, the gentleman that we just heard from moments ago, to praise his resolve in the face of danger, because, again, he was in the front lines. he was with these students and now he is the leader that they are looking up to. >> rosa florflores, live for uss morning, thank you. parkland, florida, mayor will join us live to share more. the victims still hospitalized after that shooting on wednesday, the last patient in critical condition has improved to fair and only two others are still in the hospital. meanwhile, the parkland community is getting ready for 14-year-old jamie guttenberg's funeral today. diane gallagher is in deer beach, florida, with more details. good morning to you. >> reporter: good morning.
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that bit of good news about only three remaining patients is met with solemnness here in parkland because of the funerals that continue to happen in this community. at the exact same time that people will be saying good-bye to 14-year-old jamie guttenberg, they will also, at another chapel, be saying good-bye to 35-year-old teacher scott feigel. according to his students, he died saving their lives by trying to lock the door and to keep the shooter away from them. this is something that so many in this community are having to do each and every day, victor, go to these funerals because of that shooting. >> dean gallagher for there in deer field, beach, thank you. join us for a special town hall for students and parents and others impacted by the florida school shooting. "stand up." it airs live on wednesday at 9:00 p.m. eastern only on cnn. social media is lighting up after the florida shooting.
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fall midterm elections. let's talk about this with senior cnn media correspondent brian stelter and cnn political analyst and history professor julian zeleny is back again with us. you know, first to you, julian. you know, the president is talking about democrats and what they did when they had control of both chambers of congress. but it is worth noting, you know, he is saying they are all talk. he hasn't even talked about guns up until this point. he has talked about school safety and he has talked about mental illness. but to this point, no mention of guns. >> look. he is right in that many democrats have not been very strong with gun control, like many republicans, they have been scared of going against the nra fearing the electorate repercussions. right now republicans control both the white house and
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congress. this issue is in front of us. and the president has almost gone out of his way in the last few days to avoid any discussion of gun control. so the ball is now with him and this is an opportunity to actually move forward on some kind of restrictions that much of the public supports but washington can't seem to produce. >> actually, the president makes a point here about what the democrats prioritize in 2009. it was a time, as he is correct, the democrats had with the white house and both chambers in congress. i want you to listen to then attorney general eric holder. it was the first full month of the administration, the tenth anniversary of columbine and ten years after the virginia tech shooting and this is what attorney general holder said. >> as a president obama indicated during the campaign, there are just a few gun-related changes that we would like to make and among them would be to
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reinstitute the ban of the sale of assault weapons. >> in 2009, democrats prioritized health care. the president tried to go back to the idea of an assault weapons ban in 2016, but by that time the politics had moved on to the election. brian, the response with the re >> here is the congressman's tweet. look. i think what he ask doing here he is going down to trump's level with name calling and i think a lot of people who see this tweet react to is saying do you have to stoop that low? two ways to react to president trump. one ask reject his tactics and try to go above it. the other is to embrace and copy trump's tactics by being a
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name-caller, by being on twitter and responding in that way. that is clearly what the congressman is doing. what he is responding to is the president suggesting there is a link between the fbi missing the tip about florida and the russia investigation. this is a nonsensical claim that the president put forth overnight and what the congress is responding to. the idea that for some reason, because the fbi is one aspect of the is looking into the russian attack on our election they somehow missed the tip about florida. the fbi has 35,000 employees so a nonsensical argument from the president and caused that democrat to respond in such a harsh manner. look. he is getting awards and praise for it from some liberals and some of his voters but i think a lot of criticism as well for being so personal, using the word psychopath. >> stay on the topic of tweets, i mean, it wasn't just that tweet. it was also a retweet of
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facebook executive who essentially contradicted what was in the mueller indictment. we have that tweet there. so let's pull that up on the screen and you can see here this is, again, facebook executive essentially saying at this whole operation was not about influencing votes. it was more so about causing divisions. the president retweeted that. i guess to you, brian. you've been keeping tabs on all of this. is it even clear whether companies like facebook, have they done all they need to do, seeing as how we are inching closer and closer to the midterm elections, to prevent this sort of thing from happening again? do we have a good handle on this? >> facebook says it screwed up and it learned valuable lessons from the 2016 election and putting those lessons in place for the midterm. facebook says it's getting baek to recognize when someone creates a fake profile. if anybody in any country tries to make a fake profile to send
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out messages, facebook says it's getting better about tamping down on those a lot faster. that said, there are a lot of critics that the company is not doing nearly enough and this response over the weekend from facebook's vp of ads saying, hey, hey, what the russians were doing was so discord and not necessarily a new thought. we have known that for a while. however, it is very clear and the executive also acknowledged that the russians before election day wanted president trump to get elected and win. that is very clear. the fact that the operation is so disaccord and chaos after election day underscores how dangerous and seriousness this election was and how brazen the russian trolls thought they could keep going after election day and keep so -- causing a division in the united states. i think the through line for the president's tweets, it's fox news. the right wing narrative that is trying to ensure him he is right and the others are wrong, whether attacking the democrats,
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whether it's saying the russians were out to do something else. what we are seeing is the president talking points from pro trump media. >> julian, i want to talk about the gun control legislation tweet and the president context the party that control of the three levers of power. of course, that is the case now with the republicans holding both chambers in congress and the white house. the first and potentially only piece of legislation the president signed that relates to gun control was one that overturned an obama era law that made it more difficult for people with mental disabilities to be able to get a gun. it would have made legislation through the rule actually from the obama administration would have added roughly 75,000 americans who are deemed mentally incapable of handling their financial benefits through social security. everybody in the senate voted it to null if i have the obama rule and so did these democrats that
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i'm going to put up on the screen. angus king is an independent who caucuses with the democrats. the four democrats there are all up in 2018. they are all representing states that trump won in 2016. what does that mean for them with this now passion that we are seeing to get stronger gun control laws? and you've got these four democrats who voted for that legislation. >> well, it's unchelear if activists who are now demanding some kind of gun control legislation to move us out of this nightmare that we keep reliving will have the pressure and the grathe ability that the have in the electorate of those
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members. it is possible for grassroots activists to overturn the power of the status quo. let's remember. we have lived through this many times and there is outrage and there is horror and many tears are shed, but the legislation doesn't change. the legislation doesn't change. >> can i suggest that it's like showing up to a garbage dump, promising to clean up the dump with only a broom or a mop? it's a nice effort, a nice thing to try, but we are not going to get anywhere with these tiny conversations about tiny changes and that is why i think the students in florida are so important. look what is going to happen later today. these students are going to launch their new organization, never again. they are going to speak out on "state of the union" and the other programs because they are not burdened by these debates we have been having for decades. they are not burdened by all of this old thinking. i wonder what new ideas the students might have have. >> i sat down and spoke to a few of them and they have new ideas. quick break.
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lebron james firing back at a fox news host who said he should, quote, shut up and dribble and not discuss politics. >> andy certi, you spoke with l about this. what did he say? >> good morning. lebron said he is never going to just shut up and dribble and continue to speak his mind on social issues giving the plarm platform he has as the top athlete in the country.
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he has been critical of trump and he thinks the president doesn't understand or care about the people and that is what prompted fox news host laura ingram saying lebron should, quote, shut up and dribble and not discuss politics. i asked lebron yesterday what he thought about those comments. >> we will definitely not shut up and dribble. i will definitely not do that. i mean too much to society. i mean too much to the youth. i mean too much to the -- to so many kids that feel like they don't have -- they don't have a way out and they need someone to help lead them out of the situation that they are in. for me to sit up on the greatest weekend of the nba all-star weekend and i get to sit up here and talk about social injustice, equality and why a woman on a certain network decided to tell me to shut up and dribble. so, thank you, whatever her name
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is. i don't even know her name. >> the all-star festivities continuing here last night in los angeles with nba all-star saturday night. the highlight of the night is always the slam dunk contest and larry nance jr. paying tribute to his dad and putting on his dad's uniform. he won the slam dunk contest in 1984. and mitchell wowed the crowd with high-flying dunks all night long and executing perfectly to win the slam dunk contest. tonight is the nba all-star game and for the first time we will not have east versus west. it's team stuff versus team lebron. the all-star game tips off at 8:00 eastern. >> looking forward to it. andy, thanks. next hour of "new day" begins after a short break. e commute i. you and that john deere tractor... you can keep dreaming up projects all the way home.
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