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politics or whatever as long as they agree with whatever narrative a person host or hostess wants to push. when it comes to race, i do think that there are racial undertones. i watch laura ingraham and watched her response and watched how she tried to show the different people she said shut up to. there were only one or two. but when you say those sorts of things, especially because of our history as a country, we can't say those things in a vacuum. >> i don't know if you saw, benjamin, but i was reading how this group of fans were removed from this hockey game after yelling at this one blackhawk hy player and they were yell basketball, basketball at them. the washington capitals coach responded saying there is absolutely no place in the game of hockey or in our country for racism an i think it's disgusting. nba star dwyane wade over the weekend tweeted, benjamin, they use to try and hide it. now the president has given everyone the courage to live their truths.
i mean you've been playing football for a long time. what's your personal experience? do you think there's any truth to that? >> well, again, i do think that we're in a time whether because of social media or because of the presidency, people are getting outside of, i guess, the pleasantries are maybe the protocol of how to talk to people. it's really disgusting on both sides. it's disgusting to look at my social media feed and see people say stfu or go back to wherever, people say shut up and play. i've had that plenty of times too, depending on what side of an issue i've come out on. i do think that the president has the ability to set the atmosphere and the temperature and the climate for how we interact with each other. whether we agree with him or not, there's always a certain way to speak to people, there's a certain amount of respect we should have for people, for their humanity. when you use obscenities, when you say the sob comments that we talked about earlier this year, that does have an effect on everybody, not just the people
that agree with you but on both sides. it's very polarizing when you have that coming from the top. and i've said this over and over again, whether we agree with the president or not, he is our president and he has the ability, the strength to with one simple word, i'm sorry, i was wrong, my tone was wrong, he has the ability to really bridge the gap and bring us together. >> from the top. benjamin watson, thank you. >> thank you, brooke. always good to talk to you. we continue on, hour two. your watching cnn, i'm brooke baldwin. here's a quote, you're either with us or against us. that's the message to president trump and other politicians that's being chanted all across the country today as students and activists continue to protest for more gun safety, six days after 17 people were killed at douglas high school in parkland, florida. >> there's a time to hold candles and there's a time to raise our voices, and that time is now. and that day is today. as a collective force of pure determination and action, let's
send a message to congress and everyone running in 2018 that we are the majority. we demand meaningful gun safety policy and we're not going to stand on the sidelines waiting for it. >> a source tells cnn the president has seen these protests and says that he wants to do something. we just don't know exactly what that something might look like, but the white house may be signaling some legislative progress, saying that the president, quoting the white house now, the president is supportive of efforts to improve the federal background check system. this as authorities tell cnn that the 19-year-old gunman had obtained at least ten firearms in the past year, all some kind of rifle. so with me now from west palm beach, cnn white house correspondent, boris sanchez. boris, just looking ahead also, we know the president has this listening session with students and teachers from parkland this coming wednesday. tell me more about that and how the president is preparing to talk to them.
>> hey there, brooke. yeah, at this point we actually don't know a whole lot about exactly who the president is going to be speaking to. the white house not giving us a ton of clarity on whether these students are actually going to be survivors of that shooting at marjory stoneman douglas senior high school. we only know that the white house promised to give us more clarity as we get closer to the listening session on wednesday. i can tell you, though, that sources tell cnn that the president has been discussing gun control and the issue of gun violence with some of his guests at mar-a-lago over the weekend, including an animated dinner discussion with geraldo rivera and his two sons, eric and don jr. i also tell you that the president is apparently considering a piece of legislation that was introduced in the senate back in november, a bipartisan bill by senators john cornyn and chris murphy. the white house putting out this statement about that bill. they write, quote, the president spoke to senator cornyn on friday about the bipartisan bill
he and senator murphy introduced. the president is supportive of efforts to improve the federal background check system. this bill was introduced as a response to the church shooting in texas in november. it didn't have a whole ton of support back then. essentially what it aims to do is strengthen how state and local law enforcement report information to the nics, the national instant background check system. that would make it tougher for individuals with criminal histories to obtain weapons, as we saw happened in that church shooting in texas. we can say, though, that we've seen the white house get behind certain pieces of legislation before or at least say they're open to it, like banning bump stocks after the shooting in las vegas in october. that ended up not going anywhere. even one of the co-sponsors of this bill, chris murphy, said that he's enthusiastic about the new urgency that he sees when it
comes to pushing for gun control legislation, but he doesn't believe that this bill is enough. he wants to see the white house doing more. now, if the president were to get behind this bill, it wouldn't be the first time that we would see a shift from the president on the issue of gun control. if you recall, back in 2010 he wrote in a book that he was open to banning assault weapons and expanding background checks. so essentially we have to wait and see how serious the white house is about pursuing this on the agenda. brooke. >> yeah, the president has been all over the map in the last two decades really on issues of gun control. i appreciate that, boris, thank you so much. we'll have a bigger conversation. i have phil mattingly here with me, mary katherine hamm and also with me bill press, host of "the bill press show." good to see you guys. to you, sir, first just on what he was just laying out, what the president perhaps could support. that a what are the chances of that passing? >> i think boris laid out in
good detail why this is a complicated issue. first, there's no trust on either side right now. on the right serve conservatives feel like people on the left want to take their guns away and on the left people think they are beholden to the nra and have blood on their hands. now, the bill that boris was talking about, senator john cornyn, senator chris murphy, it's small bore but it has bipartisan support. however, the house passed that bill and paired it with concealed reciprocity. that has no chance in the u.s. senate. it is a major issue that gun rights folks want to move forward. so as long as those two are paired together, there's no future there. i think the interesting element here is can you keep the debate narrow. can you keep it to just a background check and then it has a potential future. if it broadens out and the passions on both sides start to take over, there's no chance on the hill and that's not even factoring in election year politics. i do think president trump if he
gets behind any specific piece of legislation and really tries to shepherd it home, that changes the dynamic. will that actually occur? he didn't actually back the bill that he was talking about, he just said he was interested in some of the changes. >> talking to his friend, geraldo rivera at mar-a-lago about changing military-style weapons like the ar-15, raising the age of buying them from 21 to 18. i want to move off of that because i was just handed a tweet. here is the new tweet, guys. this is
moving to russia. this is the tweet just in from the president who as we know is still down in florida. he says obama was president up to and downthe 2016 election so why didn't he do something about russian meddling. mary katherine hamm, this is obviously in the wake of the mega news from the special counsel on friday, these russian indictments, and again the president's barrage of tweets over the weekend saying this happened before me, you know. i'm president and don't question
the legitimacy of my election. what do you make of this tweet? >> it's better than the ones over the weekend. i think he has not a terrible point. "the washington post" has reported repeatedly how they did get warnings about this and president obama at the time was in a very tricky situation because once you bring this up and how you combat it is very hard during an election while it's happening. look, the president is going to be obsessed with how this plays into his legitimacy or lack thereof in the eyes of the american people and in the media. he will continue to be obsessed with that. >> is part of his obsession, why can't he criticize russia? that is entirely missing from the fact that the country was under attack and is currently under attack when it comes to this upcoming election. >> as always with donald trump, and this is not me making light of what russia did in the election, it is that putin says nice things about trump and, therefore, trump says nice things about putin. i don't think he minds a strong man and some of those tendencies
and putin is nice to him and that's how you get trump to be nice to you. >> that's not good enough when you're the leader of the united states of america and the country is under attack. go ahead, bill. >> first of all, one question. should president obama have done more and informed us more about russia meddling when he found out about it? absolutely. i think we all know why he didn't. everybody thought hillary was going to win. >> including the russians. >> if he said something there, donald trump would have been able to use that to say i told you the election was rigged. let's not change the subject to barack obama. the subject is donald trump. what is stunning is that he lives in such an alternate universe. 17 intelligence agencies have told us russia did this. the united states congress, both houses have said bypassing sanctions against russia for doing it, they believe russia did it. now we have mueller with excruciating detail about everything they did and donald trump still has not acknowledged they did it. he has not condemned them for doing it. and he has not suggested any
retaliation to russia. that is stunning. in fact he said vladimir putin told me he didn't do it so, therefore, i don't believe it happened. come on, get in the real world. >> right. let me just read another tweet from him. if it was the goal of russia to create discord, disruption and chaos within the u.s., then with all the committee hearings, which you cover all the time, phil mattingly, investigations, party hatred, they have succeeded beyond their wildest dreams. they are laughing their asses off in moscow. get smart america. not once again, not once has he blamed russia, vowed revenge against russia. or acknowledged that he will do something about the fact that they're laughing and we have tools with which to do something about that. >> when you talk to lawmakers on capitol hill, whether republican or democrat, they are for the most part, and this isn't uniform, but for the most part able to separate what happened in the election and the results of the election from the russian
investigation and russian meddling. the president and his aides say this very bluntly, cannot have that separation. he feels like any time you're talking about one, you're automatically calling into question the other. i think until that is in some way resolved or remedied, there's not a proper path forward. if you listen to senior administration officials, senior intelligence community officials, they're on the same page as those on the hill. particularly the senate intelligence committee who acknowledge what happened, believe what happened, believe what special counsel mueller released on friday is the story of what happened and believe things need to be done not just before 2020 but in the next couple of months before primaries start before 2018. as long as there is no kind of coherent message from the top agreeing with that and pushing forward on that, i think there's a lot of concern regardless of party on capitol hill. >> brooke, donald trump hears russian meddling and he believes i didn't win this election on my own. that is driving him crazy, and
that's what resulted in this tweet storm this weekend. >> i think there is another conflation that happens that exacerbates the president's inability to separate these two things and that is the conflation of russian meddling with the conclusion of collusion. and we can pretend like all of the media coverage has just been very straightforward about meddling, it has not. some of it has been wishing and getting out over its skis about the conclusion of the investigation, more of which we know now, not all. but i do think that's some of what drives his ire as well. >> yes, meddled, although i've had people talk about cyber war. they're saying meddling isn't even the right word for it. no, no conclusion on the collusion, case closed. you got it? thank you guys so far. appreciate it. coming up here, moments ago the shooter who took 17 lives in parkland, florida, was back in court for a hearing today. and now the couple who took him in after his mother passed away a couple of months ago is speaking out. what they said about the weapons that he brought into their home. also ahead, i'll talk to two students who survived that mass
shooting. they are meeting with state lawmakers tomorrow in tallahassee, florida, to demand change. and later, former trump aide, rick gates, is reportedly taking -- talking and taking a plea deal, flipping on his old boss, trump campaign manager paul manafort. what this means big picture in this russia investigation. you're watching cnn, i'm brooke baldwin. for your heart...
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revealed something pretty surprising about the shooter. >> he told us he was depressed. we knew he was depressed. >> when you say he was quirky, just give us a sense of what that looked like. >> he was just -- he was just trying to fit in. he was just -- didn't know what to say or when to say it or how to stay it so he'd ask a lot of questions. he'd apologize a lot. if we told him to do something, if he needed to clean up after himself, he'd apologize and say he was sorry. you don't have to be sorry, just do it. >> i want to bring in paula mcmahon who had the first interview with this couple and wrote about it. paula, i read your piece over the weekend and your headline is we had this monster living under our roof and we didn't know. i mean the question is how did they not know, because there seemed to be so many other signs. they acknowledged that he was depressed after his mom died. what did they say to you? >> what james and kimberly snead
told me, brooke, is that they were not aware of any of the warning signs that were reported to the fbi, that were reported to state authorities and to local authorities and the school district. our newspaper has been reporting on that, of course. they said that nikolas cruz was a friend of their son's, they met at school. after nicholkolas cruz was orph at the start of november, their son asked them if nikolas cruz could move into the home in parkland. they thought they were doing something nice. they thought they were doing a good deed. they set up very strict rules is what they told me before they allowed this young man to come into their home. james snead is a former military man. he's comfortable around guns. his wife is comfortable around guns. she's a neonatal nurse, a nicu nurse, and they said that they told nikolas cruz before he moved in, you need to have a gun safe. they bought it on the way as
they were moving his stuff into their home. they thought they had the only key to that gun safe. >> can i stop you, paula. >> sure. >> they didn't realize he had a key. did they realize at 19 years of age that he had this ar-15 style weapon? >> they did. they knew he had that and that he had other guns. he bought that gun legally at a local gun supply store. he went through the background check and he passed it. >> that's right. and so they thought it was all properly locked up, the father thought he had the only key and perhaps it turns out that this young man had one. >> and james -- >> go ahead, go ahead. >> james snead told me that he told nikolas cruz that he needed to ask permission before he could take out any of the guns in their home. he said in the three months that nikolas lived in the home, he asked twice if he could take out the guns. one time they said yes an one time they said no and they were not aware that he was taking them out any more than that.
>> and what about this -- his p predilection to killing animals. did they not see any signs there? >> they said they saw quite the contrary to what's been reported about him in the aftermath of this tragedy. they said that they had two dogs and about six cats that come and go on their property. they saw only love shown to those animals. they said he was loving on their dogs and one of the cats used to like to sit on his chest. they never saw -- that's what they told me at least. they never saw any indication. and kimberly told me if anyone came into her home and was mean to her animals, they would be thrown out promptly. >> how awful for this family. we know they're suffering as well. the son at the school and everything that they're dealing with right now. paula mcmahon with quite a fascinating picture there in the "sun sentinel."
thank you so much, paula. >> thank you. coming up next, let's talk about the special counsel, robert mueller, and how he's apparently flipped another defendant in this russia investigation. why the president's former advisors, one of, is pleading guilty and who he will testify against. don't we need that cable box to watch tv? nope. don't we need to run? nope. it just explodes in a high pitched 'yeahhh.' yeahhh! try directv now for $10 a month for 3 months. no satellite needed.
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confirmed that he has agreed to testify against his ex-boss and former trump campaign chairman, paul manafort. you know the story with manafort. he pleaded not guilty to mueller's indictment and is now preparing for trial on alleged financial crimes unrelated to the campaign. with me now, john dean, former nixon white house counsel. sir, always a pleasure. can you just tell me, what is the trump camp thinking when they see now at least three major players plead guilty and agree to cooperate with the special counsel? >> well, i think the latest one is probably one that will cause them some serious thought. they're asking themself how much does manafort know and how close was manafort with gates? in other words, was he likely to share everything he knew with his long-time business associate. if that's the case,what manafort knew will come in -- could come into the case through gates. there are exceptions to the normal hearsay rules when you have a witness who is a part of
a co-conspiracy. and that could be a problem for them. >> do you see any similarities, john, in how mueller took down the gambino crime family when he was federal prosecutor in terms of how mueller seems to be systematically indicting and then flipping these trump associates to cooperate? >> there is. and this is pretty standard with white collar prosecutors working on mob cases particularly where they go to get the lower level people first, try to get them to either plead or indict them and then flip them. this is pretty standard operating procedure. that's exactly what we see in this case, the way he's proceeding. he has spread wide and he is flipping people as he goes and getting pleas as he goes. so this is something like a mob prosecution actually. >> like a mob prosecution but
we're talking about the president and all these different associates and how they keep flipping. what about how the president has been clinging to this unwitting part of the indictment from that bombshell news from mueller on friday, the 13 russians accused of interfering in the election. do you think trump should see that as vindication? >> well, i think he's pipe dreaming if he thinks that it's vindication. all of the case so far has been very carefully crafted, indictments that really don't show the hand of the special counsel. and i think that obviously the special counsel knows an awful lot at this point. they have been on this for well over a year. the investigation has started before mueller came on so there was a good bit of work that can be done. i think trump, that's one of the reasons we're seeing these tweet storms is he's very nervous about what they know and don't know. >> you think it's nerves?
>> i think trump has got some problems. i don't think mueller would have taken the case if he didn't see a serious problem here. >> okay. john dean, the expert in all of this, we'll come back to you. thank you so much for jumping on on to holiday monday. coming up next, students demanding change on guns, from a lie-in, look at that, at the white house today, to florida where two survivors of the shooting are meeting with lawmakers tomorrow. we'll talk to them live. >> when we were in that closet altogether, i was just thinking we're going to be that school. we're going to be the ones that everyone talks about. we're going to be the school that got shot up. >> with this title now that everyone knows the name of the school, we can use that and use it to make change. [ clock ticking ]
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really hi presidency as a whole, two professors surveyed a group of political science experts on how president trump stacks up against his predecessors so far. joining me now, the co-author of that survey, justin vaughn, and cnn's presidential historian, douglas brinkley. justin, beginning with you since you're the one who did this, let's take a look at the party breakdown. trump still ranking toward the bottom across the board for democrats, republicans and independents. tell me more about that. >> yeah. we expected that republicans would view trump more favorably than democrats, of course, and they do, but only a little bit. they still have him in the bottom five, whereas he's at the very bottom for democrats. >> but your survey, and i'm sure you've seen some of this feedback on social media, one critic made this point, trump hating has become so unhinged that political scientists are willing to rank the man lower than james buchanan, a president whose failure was so complete
that he failed to prevent the civil war. is this ranking a tad premature? is that unfair to conclude that the current president is last here when he's just a year in? >> well, i think it's certainly early. he's been in office for a year and this is the very first slice that we have of telling the trump history. certainly buchanan's accomplishments or lack thereof have him at the bottom for a reason. but trump's low ranking i think is a reflection of just how anti-presidential his behavior has been. he's being judged more on his demeanor and his approach to the office, i think, than he is on the substantive accomplishments of his administration, like we would for buchanan. >> doug brinkley, what's your take on these results? >> i think there are a lot of different polls out there and i think they're all consistent. abraham lincoln is usually number two and george washington number two, fdr three, and then theodore roosevelt four.
what jumps out to me at this excellent "new york times" poll, i found fascinating to look at is how ronald reagan is being accepted by democrats as a great president or near great. barack obama has had a huge leap up in the "times" poll, up ten points. but you see the power, i think, of history and media on these polls. i mean ulysses s. grant is up because rob chernow has a best-selling book about him. lyndon johnson has had a lot of movies and one-man plays and celebrations for 50 years of civil rights and voting rights legislation and lbj is up quite a bit. if i have a disappointment in the poll, it's just how low the war of 1812 president, james madison, is. i always thought of madison as top ten and he's not that anymore, instead eisenhower and reagan and lbj have superseded him. >> bush 43, justin back over to
you, bush 43 was one of several presidents who also saw a bump as the years went by. trump still has three years ahead of him. what are the chances he places better in future rankings? >> well, he can't do worse, so the chances are certainly that he could go up. it's up to him really. if he moderates his behavior, if he strings together some more victories like he did with the tax cut bill, i think he could go up quite a bit. certainly as we saw with george w. bush, over time emotions fade positively and especially negatively. so between some substantive accomplishments, better behavior in office and democrats finding someone they like even less than the road, trump should zoom up in those polls. >> i'm wondering, doug brinkley to you, these are political scientists who were surveyed instead of historians, do you think there would have been a different outcome on this fascinating poll if historians
were actually interviewed? >> well, i work with c-span and that's what we do, we use historians. they're quite similar. i looked at them. you know, what you never want to do is be ranked below william henry harrison who was only president for one month. donald trump has been -- donald trump is that, so that's a problem for him in perception. but i think a consensus is emerging in this country that dwight eisenhower was a great president. it's not that many years ago, maybe a decade or so ago, ike was not thought of as that way, but now we're putting him up there in the top ten. john f. kennedy to my surprise is slipping while l.b.j. is rising. but by and large these polls are a fun exercise to think about other presidents. you know, you'll see because andrew jackson is liked more by republicans now, he's a big democrat because trump has a portrait of him and democrats
don't like andrew jackson anymore because of the trail of tears, the native american indian removal and some of his attitudes on race. so contemporary affairs bleeds into these types of polls. >> justin and doug, thank you very much. i want to take you now to parkland, florida. let's take a peek here, live pictures in florida where so many people have been coming and dropping by and paying their respects to the 17 people who were killed at douglas high school. we'll talk to a survivor who is demanding change from her lawmakers, next. you might take something for your heart... or joints. but do you take something for your brain. with an ingredient originally found in jellyfish, prevagen is the number one selling brain-health supplement in drug stores nationwide.
grief and activism as the students of florida's marjory stoneman douglas high school bury two more of their own. funerals today for 14-year-old elena petty and luke hoyer, who was just 15 when he was killed by a school shooter. activism already on display all across this country. these are pictures out of washington where students are holding what they are calling a lie-in to show support with florida teenagers demanding tougher gun laws. in chicago, thousands filled the streets sunday carrying signs that read moms demand action and chanting "vote them out." >> vote them out, vote them out, vote them out. >> those chants heard all across florida as well where survivors of the school shooting launched
never again msd, msd the letters for marjory stoneman douglas high school. its aim, reform gun laws in this country. let me bring in co-founder sophie whitney as well as jacqueline corin. ladies, thank you for being with me. >> thank you for having us. >> let's get right to your message. sochi, let me start with you. tell me about your group, never again msd. who are you and what's your message? >> never again msd is like a solid 5 to 20 of us students from marjory stoneman douglas who we're strong enough after te shooting to stand -- to make the difference. we started social media, we're reaching out to everyone possible. we're doing all the interviews we can because we know this is the last -- we can't let this be something that happens normally in our country. >> no, we can't. are both of you getting on buses tomorrow to go to tallahassee? is that right? >> yes.
yes. >> i'm the one that organized the whole trip. >> well, then let me ask you, jacqueline, as the organizer, you know, you tell me who you guys are meeting with and i want to know specifically what are you asking of these lawmakers? >> okay. so basically there's 100 of us heading up there along with over a dozen chaperones, and we are going to be meeting with the speaker of the house, the senate president, along with so many other members of the senate and house of representatives. we are working on meeting with rick scott actually. basically what we are going to be asking them is to really reconsider previous -- pre-existing bills that they have not considered greatly because it hasn't really affected our state that much considering this is a huge -- the first huge -- well, after pulse, they just haven't been able to listen. they haven't -- people from
pulse didn't come together and make a movement and obviously we are fighting for them as students together. we are fighting for the victims of pulse. we are fighting for the victims of newtown. we are fighting for the victims of las vegas. and we are going to be emphasizing the need for gun safety and the need for mental health education because both of them are equally as important because together they cause huge destruction and we hopefully are going to be able to bring up new ideas to the senate in hopes that they will form a special session in the coming months that use our suggestions to create new bills. >> jaclyn, let me jump in because i was talking to a dad last hour who lost his son. this is what he said for me to say to you. he ifull of hope listening to your young voices, but what are you going to say when these lawmakers say guns aren't the problem, people are. what do you
>> well, hopefully they won't be saying that to us considering we are using an emotional appeal and they've only ever heard the logical appeal. in the event they do say that we'll say right back that we do not need you. we are students that created this movement and we've already been getting so much media attention, so much support from high powers of the entertainment business, of the political world, from people that do support us, and we're just going to say if you don't support us, we don't need you. we've done enough and we are continuing to spread this movement worldwide and we've already planned to march on march 24th. if we can do that without you, we go do everything without you. >> you may need them though in terms of of enacting or changing laws. i admire you with your, you know, it takes guts to do what you're going to do and i admire you with your message. in fact, back to you.
some in your group, you're saying, i'm not going back to class unless my discussion with these elected leaders results in action. is that right? >> yeah. why would we go back to a school that isn't safe? that the gun laws aren't strong enough? we witnessed five days ago 17 people in our school die is that they expect us just to go back to school normal when i no change. where's the common sense in that? >> but we also want to emphasize the importance of education. and we will be going back to school eventually because obviously we're teenagers and we have to finish high school. but we are really prioritizing this movement because it is affecting the entire country. >> i admire you. my heart goes out to you. best of luck. let's talk again. good luck in tallahassee, ladies. thank you so much. >> thank you. >> we'll be right back.
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it has taken hollywood a while to catch up to the fact pop culture has embraced black culture and put them in the super hero roles they deserve. so this is something that should have come earlier. it is happening now, finally. >> all right. christopher farley, thank you christopher farley, thank you for being with me. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com breaking news in the russia probe, the investigation in the white house, in the family and in the finances. the interest in jared kushner growing. he had an arsenal. new information today on the florida high school shooter as young survivors of this massacre back new generation of activists. plus, they infiltrated news