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you. you never lost a fight yet. >> you're in the cnn newsroom. thanks for being here on this sunday. we begin with the president letting loose at the washington black tie affair, joking about white house chaos, jared kushner's troubles getting a security clearance and even his marriage to melania, the mood was fn and light hearted but there were some things that may have serious undertones especially the youn ongoing nuclear threat from north korea. i won't rule out direct talks with kim jong-un. i just won't. as far as the risk of dealing with a madman is concerned, that's his problem, not mine. >> the president went on, a couple of days ago, they said we would like to talk and i said, so would we. but you have to denuke, you have to denuke. so let's see what happens. maybe positive things are
happening. i hope that's true. we will be meeting and we'll see if anything positive happens. i want to bring in cnn white house correspondent boris sanchez. what is the white house saying about this call? >> reporter: unexpected news from the gridiron dicnner, it doesn't usually break news that way. kind of surprising the president discussed diplomacy there in the way he did. he was joking but it appears he was somewhat serious about potentially moving forward with direct talks between the united states and north korea. basing it yet again on the precondition that north korea must denuclearize before there are communications between the two countries. north korea was paying attention and put out a statement writing the u.s. that was terrified at the rapid development of our nuclear force and continued to knock the door of dialogue, now fains an indifference and advances this or that precondition.
not being content with it, it insists it will have dialogue only for making the dprk amanned on nuclear weapons until complete denuclearization is realized, that is really more than ridiculous. the north korean foreign ministry not thrilled about the president's stance. cnn has reached out to the white house multiple times to get clarity on president's marks and there's any progress made to an actual moment of meeting. they have yet to respond though. >> boris, at the white house. thank you. so president trump says north korea called up, would like to talk with the u.s. but that the rogue nation would have to denuke first. the president adding he won't rule out direct talks with north korea's reclusive leader kim jong-un. north korea's response as boris pointed out, trump's preconditions for talks are quote, preposterous. let's talk it over with atlantic
council mets zs el and balbina wong. does it look like talks with north korea are going to happen? >> there are some talks with north korea because they are just starting now between south korea and north korea. and it's likely that there could be some interaction between the americans and the north koreans but because of the weakness and disarray of the u.s. administration, the trump administration those talks are going to be very likely on north korea's terms because they are getting stronger in spite of all of the strikes against them and the united states unfortunately is getting weaker because of the disarray in the white house. >> do you think this north korea, change of heart of sorts stemmed from the participation in the olympics at south korea. was that a turning point? >> first, i disagree that i think the north korean position is necessarily stronger because
the u.s. position is weaker. regardless of that, currently in disarray or not, when it domestics to north korea, of all of the foreign policy issues this is the one issue where the united states, the trump administration has actually been very consistent and is in fact rallied a very strong position towards north korea in the multilateral arena and in fact, it has a very strong position towards north korea. so north korea indeed does have a strong position. i will agree with that. and where it is strong is that it is separated out talks with south korea as a separate issue. so i'm not sure there is new news. he didn't really say anything new yesterday. there will probably be talks but this is the exact same position in both sides of laying them out, north korea will not give up the nuclear weapons and united states wants north korea to give up its nuclear weapons.
>> do you want to follow up on why you believe the u.s. position is weaker. >> i completely disagree with my friend, the reason why we're in this weak position is because the way -- the only real leverage that the united states has for pressuring north korea is getting china to do more and because the united states is in such a weak position and the united states is antagonizing our allies and friends by stepping away from tpp and telling japan and south korea in many ways that they are -- that they are on their own, by doing all of the things that are having all of our allies and friends really worried about what we're going to do next, we have very little leverage over the chinese and so we've been not able to get the chinese to do more. the north koreans like the chinese and soviets recognize that america is as weak as we've been in generations and so we are likely going to move forward with additional contacts with the north koreans, not from a position of strength but from a
position of very unfortunate weakness. >> don't you think something is different given the stalemate and ignoring shouting at each other has been broken and now there are even talks about coming together? >> we've negotiated with the north koreans in the past and done it successfully with leverage. the north koreans have always wanted to negotiate with the united states on an equal footing. and if we have negotiations with the north koreans now, it will be on that equal footing because the north koreans aren't going to give up their nuclear weapons, they have already established the status quo of their position. if the united states insists we can't even talk before north korea gives up its nukes, there won't be any talk. already the decision has been made in some ways to accept what the new status quo that north korea has created. that's why i'm saying trump administration in spite of all of the bluster and all of the name calling has actually weakened the united states.
>> balbina, should the u.s. talk to north korea without preconditions? >> it's a good thing jamie and i are friends. he knows our differences are really about policy, nothing personal. but the premises are simply incorrect. china is absolutely not the only leverage over north korea. if fact it is very clear, it has been clear fon the last 20 years that the road to pyongyang does not go through beijing if we have learned nothing in the last three administrations, it's that china is not the way in which we are going to get north korea to do what we need them to do. number one. the other thing is, nothing has really changed. what has actually occurred and it's been quite consistent, since president bush's administration and president obama did it very consistently and now so has president trump and he has actually racheted this up, which is to increase the pressure on north korea.
so i think that actually that is the position of strength. now, what is interesting is, that south korea and the united states have actually strengthened their alliance. and their position of cohesiveness. despite the fact that president moon is idealogically supposedly very, very different from where president trump is. so i think we'll see but i don't think very much has changed at all in terms of the overall positions. >> but balbina, moon who you point out has been close with president trump and the u.s. and south korea -- >> that's exactly right. >> saying they want to together. but he's saying the u.s. should be willing to talk to north korea without expecting them to give up their nuclear program at this juncture. is it realistic for north korea to say, sure, we're going to denuclearize. do you think that will ever happen, so if they don't would talks even happen at all? >> that is exact lip the stalemate we have been in and exactly why the six party talks
have been frozen since 2008. exactly why president obama, despite the incredible efforts that were put in for eight years, that north korea simply did not come to the table. it's not because president obama didn't try for eight years, it's because north korea didn't want to meet those conditions. the u.s. position has been very consistent. this is one thing the trump administration has not changed and i don't think we should change the position. it is not realistic. north korea will not come to the table jibing up the nuclear weapons. this is why all of this continues and all of this rhetoric back and forth, that's what simply is rhetoric. >> the rhetoric of fire and fury has changed. >> it has. >> jamie? >> it has changed and the rhetoric has been racheted way up. but there is no military option for the united states. the north koreans know it and south koreans know. it everybody knows it, maybe donald trump doesn't know --
>> i'm glad you bring that up because multiple sources with knowledge of white house thinking the trump administration is considering military action against north korea if they successfully develop a nuclear missile capable of hitting the u.s. we heard from cia director mike pompeo in january he thought there were a few months ago from doing just that. >> they are and that is. that is not real, they are bluffing or insane. every time when they play out what a -- whatever a pinpoint attack on north korea looks like, you end up with tens and hundreds of thousands of casualties and these are casualties of american citizens living in seoul. there's all kinds of disruptions, even general mattis and others have played this out. there is no military option. everybody knows the trump administration is bluffing, it's not -- simply not true what bal balbina is saying, relations are at an all time high -- >> i did not say that.
>> i'll give you the last word. >> it is not true to say there is no military option. there always has been and always is -- >> no palatable military option. >> that i agree with. however, the military option is there and that is precisely the point. the point is that right now north korea and actually quite a number of other countries in the world are not sure if this president is willing to use it or not and that is exactly why north korea is willing to entertain talks. >> that's exactly why -- that's exactly why we might finally be able to move forward. >> i disagreknow you disagree. >> thank you both. you both have so much expertise and different opinions, why we brought you together to hear it all. >> we're still friends. >> exactly. >> china of course is another big topic related to north korea. president trump also trying to put the pressure on china with these tariffs that he is -- that
he is saying he's going to impose. and now he's also reacting to a bold move by china's president to end term limits. trump's remarks coming at the weekend fundraiser at his florida resort mar-a-lago, let's listen. >> china is great and xi is a great gentlemen, now president for life. he's great. look, he was able to do that. i think it's great. maybe we'll have to give that a shot some day. >> those remarks following the event that upset the stock market, may have set the stage for a potential trade war with china a few days ago. his surprise move to slap tariffs on u.s. imports of steel and aluminum. let's bring in will rip ley live
in beijing's tiananmen square. tell us about the big event there. >> reporter: the national people's congress is set to kick off at this building right over here, the great hall of the people. we've already had to pass through two layers of security to get to this point but you can see the chinese military keeping us and everybody else a far distance away. there are crowds out here. you can see a lot of people came earlier to see the flag raising. one thing you will not see here are any pro testders who oppose the move that china is about to make, abolishing presidential term limits, allowing china's xi jinping to be the president for life. a lot of people, pro democracy activists hoped he would allow the peaceful transfer of power after the second term but instead setting up a scenario they fear could return to the brutal dictatorship that saw millions die during the cultural revolution. his portrait still hangs here. this is a country that doesn't
allow political dissent and communist party that must be encourage the hearing president trump, the leader of the free world saying he supports the idea of a president essentially ruling for life. somebody who's supposed to represent the voice of democracy, saying he's on the side of authoritarian china, saying they disagree saying china has banned a lot of terms that would allow people to criticize or make jokes what's going to happening behind me. even cnn's coverage as we speak right now in china is being blacked out. we have a piece of video when i was filing a report for cnn international. as soon as we start to talk about this, the sensors cut our signal to black. that's how it works here in this country and we're seeing -- yeah -- am i right? we have credentials here. we're good. thanks, you can see it's sensitive for us to be here. plain clothes police, there are police officers, people listening to what they are saying and don't like us talking about tiananmen square, the
scene of a brutal crackdown in 1989. people died here when pro democracy activists turned out. you don't see any protesters here today and that's the way it works in china and apparently they have the backing of president trump, ana. >> will ripley, thank you for that reality check. >> a rough week for the president, one of the top advisers resigns and public battle with his attorney general and now trump's allies are soundsing the alarm that the president may be spiraling. we'll discuss. stay right there. whatever you're doing to stay healthy... there's something you may be missing. a key part of your wellness that you may be... overlooking. it's your eyes. that's why there's ocuvite, from bausch + lomb. as you age your eyes can lose vital nutrients. ocuvite helps replenish those nutrients. ocuvite has lutein, zeaxanthin, and omega-3. nourish your eyes to help them be their healthy best. ocuvite eye vitamins. be good to your eyes.
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alone against the wall. i want to bring in curt bardella and markay and michelle goldberg. the president said i like chaos, it really is good. the question everyone keeps asking is, who is going to be the next to leave? steve miller or melania, that is terrible but you love me, honey. i won't tell you what she said. the president, michelle all joking aside talking about the stacked turnover there. all of the chaos something to joke about or dangerous what's happening inside the white house? >> of course it's dangerous, it's extremely dangerous. we have a president whose even his allies agree is unstable and on the verge of starting a trade war on the spur of the moment because he had a bad day which is scary, although thank god it's a trade war and not a war-war. that performance last night was
sort of disgraceful for establishment journalists to be joking around with this man who is so hostile to our profession, who is so you know -- who is so violently opposes the tenants of a free press. none of this is a laughing matter, not even a laughing matter to humiliate his long suffering wife. >> do you think it could be a step forward the fact he is now willing to minger with the president? >> no, i think of course it's not a step forward. it would be a step forward if he was willing to give a press conference or if they were willing to show even kind of minimal levels of transparency. what he did by going to this dinner is he got a lot of jourmists to sort of ratify what has been a disgrace if the departure from ordinary noms of openness and candor with the media. >> going back to the issue of
the turnover, a brand-new cnn poll found 61% the president has done a poor job of assembling a team of top advisers at the white house and 70% say they are very or somewhat concerned about the number of white house employees that don't have permanent security clearances. for someone who campaigned on the promise that he would hire and have the best people possible around him, what kind of impact does this have? >> well, i think what people either understand the staff level is so important and makes the government go and puts policy into action. and when you have a staff that constantly turns over, a staff that doesn't have the confidence of the president, the star at war with one another, we spend more time talking about the internal mechanics of the white house and the back stabbing and the back and forth that goes on than talking about public policy. that is a terrible and dangerous thing. the gross instability we're seeing every day on display in the trump white house is one of the most dangerous things happening in this country right now. it's a president who is growing
more and more unstable. he looks around and there's nobody left there that he's going to even know their names are. we see what happens when he feels that closed in walls and lashes out. he started a trade war as a temper tantrum because he's not happy with how the week is going. questions need to be asked about the president's mental fitness. >> in terms of replacing hope hicks who a lot have said was one of his closest advisers inside the white house, who's going to want the job of communications director now? he's been through three prior to hope hicks and we know not only is it difficult to deal with the president who goes off script, but this is a job that could potentially get somebody one way ticket to an interview with the special prosecutor? >> well, anthony scaramucci and hope hicks, that's a tough act to follow. her -- the request quality that made her indispensable her ability to speak the language
trump speaks and translate the inner workers into a format that the president would understand, one that he would respond to and there are very few other aides in the white house who possess those qualities and would take the job. kelly ann conway is the only one who comes close and she's eyeing something more senior and said she wants to work on policy. does not want to work in communications. you're right, the pool of talent this white house can draw from continues getting smaller. we spoke with a republican operative who likened it to a white house running on the sort of b team staff you see in year seven or eight of administration and this white house is operating that kind of staff in year two. it doesn't look like it's going to get better because it never does. this white house happens to be further along down that line. what guy who hung in there, jeff sessions, in the middle of a public feud for quite some time. here's what reince priebus and
former trump adviser chris christie said about sessions today. i don't think it would be good for the president for attorney general sessions to leave but i think the president has made up his mind in regard to how he feels about the recuse at. he feels like that was a first sin, the original sin and he feels slighted by it. he doesn't like it and he's not going to let it go. >> the president has the right to do what he wants to do. if the president has no confidence in the attorney general, then the president has to act. not just criticize but act. >> so michelle, do you think it's better that jeff sessions goes or stays? >> i can't believe i'm saying this because i think jeff sessions is one of the truly worst people in public life but i think that he should stay. first of all, he believes the
attorney general is his own conciliatory, a person who wouldn't recuse themselves isn't fit to be attorney general because by all ethical -- all of the ethical standards of the department, it was a no brainer, there was no other option but for him to recuse himself. what trump is trying to do is bully him out of this position to appoint a new attorney general who then in turn can shut down the mueller probe. and you know, jeff sessions, it's one of the very strange plot twists in this over the top episode -- over the top season of america. that jeff sessions who is i think to most liberals again, a truly loathsome character has nonetheless shown a strange sort of stubborn integrity in the face of trump's even greater assaults on the rule of law. >> i want to talk about policy now. the president rattled republicans this week with mixed messages on guns. here's a reminder.
i like taking the guns first and go through due process next. it doesn't make i have to wait until 21 to get this weapon but can get it at 18. >> i would rather have you come up with a strong, strong bill and really strong on background checks. >> so he said that on wednesday but then a top nra official tweeted this, potus and vice potus support the second amendment and strong due process and don't want gun control. curt, do you think the nra will win the battle or is this time different? >> we've seen this before, with daca and dreamers when president trump held a public meeting and negotiated in public and seemed to move to a more reasonable position and challenged congress to give legislation to fix daca dreamers and walked it back a day or two later. we're seeing the same thing with guns, some would consider reasonable things and true things about the state of gun reform in the country, there's
an appetite for it and people want it. then after a public pressure and getting denounced by some conservatives and meeting with the nra in private, he walks it back again. negotiates with whoever is in front of him that second. whatever he tells you is only as good as long as you're in the room. the minute that somebody else walks in the oval office he's just as likely to change his opinion and contradict himself. >> i have to leave it there. i hoe yowe you a question first time. thank you all. >> this week's before the bell, president trump's tariff talk sends a nervous shock through wall street and our american workers getting a pay raise? christine romans looking at those stories for us. hi, christine. >> hi, ana, the big story, will the president follow through on the trade threats last week said the president would impose a 10% tariff on aluminum imports and said trade wars are a good
thing. it is not a good thing for stocks or investors, the big question now, will certain countries be exempt, what are details to be flushed out. on friday the jobs report, the last report sparked a huge wave of selling on wall street, wages grew at the fastest space since 2009, raise fears of inflation and higher interest rates. were those wage gains an anomaly or sustained rise in paychecks? if it's the latter it could trigger more selling. friday happens to be the current bull market's ninth birthday. it's already the second longest bull market in history. despite february's swoon, the s&p 500 is up more than 300% since march 9th, 2009. will this bull live to see its tenth birthday. that's the question many investors are asking. in new york, i'm christine romans. >> evangelicals are a big part of trump's base but now they are split. are they going to stick with this president or not? let's begin.
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small country church outside nashville. >> to the evangelical church with god -- >> reporter: pastor greg lock preaches to pews full of white evangelical christians, most voted for president trump. >> i'll vote for him again. >> reporter: his support is falling but the vast majority have stuck by him as he repeatedly tests the limits of christian values, racism, adultery and support for accused child molester roy moore. >> to what xebt ee van get cals are saying, he may not be born again but he's getting done exactly what we want to get done so that's all we need. >> that's a lot of it. whether he is or isn't, he's giving evangelicals a platform and voice we've always wanted that i think we lost for a lot of reasons. so i think with a lot of evangelicals, it's the end justifies the means. >> the way he stands for vist yan values -- >> she won't say whether trump
is a crihristian but as one herself, she is quick to forgive. >> there's none of us without sin. >> according to the pugh research center, tennessee has the highest percentage of evangelicals. former democratic governor fill brett sen will be one of the most closely watched and evangelicals are a critical voting bloc. trump was elected with 80% of the vote and today approval stands at 63%. still solid but cracks are showing. ♪ >> grace point church is a haven for christians who no longer feel at home in the evangelical movement. at dinner they tell us there's an existent shal crisis. >> when we call it a para dime shift or whatever we want to call it, the phrase is used earlier this morning, this thing is disappearing in front of us.
>> we're seeing people say enough is nuenough. we're not going to stand for tearing people down. we're not going to stand for bullying people. >> dan scott is a pastor at nashville as evangelical christ church, a conservative and harsh critic of the president who agrees trump is fueling the break-up of evangelicalism. >> what do evangelicals want? >> do we want to spread the gospel of christ or want power. >> the reverend graham stayed away from politics. do you think the core of evangelicals these days have lost their way? >> i do, it's a phenomenon mostly of white churches and been a mistake, it's prostaitutd our faith i would argue. >> you sound frustrated and disappointed? >> i am. i think they are losing their way. >> no one can say what an evangelical is. for decades it has become more and more of a political term rather than a religious one and
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breaking news in the west virginia school strike, moments ago the state department of education canceled all public school classes again tomorrow. that means eight days students have been kept from classes. now the teachers wants a 5% pay raise this weekend lawmakers debated this issue and came up short. i want to bring in kaylee
hartung, any sign of some kind of settlement? >> there's no sign of a settlement at this hour. over the weekend emotional arguments in the west virginia legislature while the senate approved a pay raise of 4% for teachers all that did was infuriate teachers and house rejected that bill. they had already given the okay for the 5% raise. the focus of frustration is now on the senate gop members, the ones who say the extra 1% which would cost the state 13 million is a bill they cannot afford. teachers witnessed the legislative process in the works yesterday from the gallery and it left them feeling disheartened and confused. we're playing with people's emotions and livelihoods and directly accouffected our stude let's do this right. let's do it to keep attract and
retain teachers in west virginia and keep our service personnel at the living -- get them to a living wage and this is unprecedented and it's confusing and it's just really again, i think they are disheartened by the process. >> to put this into context, teachers in west virginia make about $45,000 a year. they are among the lowest paid educators in the country. the 5% increase that they are asking for, that would give each teacher an extra about $2,000 a year. that adds up to a $50 million tab for the state to pay annually. now what happens next? after this impasse that was stopped at over the weekend, well, a legislative conference will convene and that likely means that each chamber will appoint a three-member team and it will be their job to resolve this four versus 5% difference. we don't know when this legislative conference will meet but what we do know is classes are canceled for an eighth day
with 300,000 students left oust classroom. >> i'm sure a lot of students are cheering but parents are saying this is awful and those teachers too, fighting for this. thank you for the update there. coming up, california agents knocking on doors, looking for guns and legally seizing them. >> how do you feel right now? >> stupid. they appear out of nowhere.
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you can't have guns anymore? >> yeah, in the court. >> reporter: how do you feel right now? >> stupid. >> this bust coming at the end of the daily mission for these california department of justice agents who door knocked targeted homes in search of weapons in the wrong hands. >> only in california do we have a law that permits us that seize these weapons. it's the only system of its kind in the nation. the arm prohibited person system or aps flags those who previously registered firearms but later deem unfit to own a gun of a felony conviction, domestic violence restraining order or found to be mentally unstable. >> using the app's data, agents visit pope who now likely faces a new set of felony charges including the possession of so-called ghost guns, home made weapons free of serial numbers officials use to track guns. >> can you imagine these guns got in the wrong hands through a
burglary? >> california's department of justice has recovered 18,000 firearms since the program began. more than 10,000 people are on the list statewide. as the country is again embroiled in the gun control debate, some point out aps would not have caught the mass shooters in san bernardino and isla vista. there some who say the aps program would not have stopped that. what do you say that? >> it's impossible to measure the success of this operation because nobody knows whether or not one of the guns that we seized would have been the next mass shooting. >> another concern for second amendment advocates, how well the database is kept up to date. >> the people that are prohibited are appropriately notified and given ample opportunity to get rid of the firearms and ammunition so they are not in further violation of the law. >> reporter: but after a night like that, these officers believe aps is a good place to start and other states should follow california's lead.
stephanie elam, cnn, los angeles. today the world is marking the passing of sir roger bannister, in may of 1954 the british medical student did something no human being had done before. many thought it was impossible. the 25-year-old ran a mile in less than four minutes. his exact time, 3:59.4 seconds and made front page news all around the world. other runners have done it since but he was the first and he has been an inspiration to athletes around the world, including myself. he soon quit running to focus on the medical career as a new neurologist and knighted by queen elizabeth. he died at his home surrounded by his family. he was 88. we'll be right back. ♪ i'm walkin♪ wow! nshine ♪ i'm walking on sunshine ♪ wow! ♪ applebee's handcrafted burgers. any burger just $7.99.
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finally this hour, a beloved decades old cartoon character is making a comeback because of president trump. here's jeanne moos. >> reporter: the president who once said he was proud to call jeff sessions attorney general now calls him mr. magoo. according to the "washington post," president trump privately refers to sessions as the bumbling cartoon character so near sighted he mistakes a mounted moose for a man. >> is this hodge poj lodge? >> cue the split screens, they are now all over the internet as someone imagined mr. magoo saying turn on the tweeter i'm trending and others having magoo declare i'm not being compared to that thinken pop. he was created in 1949, millennials are saying magoo
who? the original created by left leaning anmaters rifting on corn conservatism and president trump is catching flack for using the childish nickname, our cartoon president, read one comic, from comedians, i would laugh. from the president, that's not leadership. comedians like stephen colbert -- >> please welcome attorney general jeff sessions. >> >> thank you. >> some see a resemblance to the keebler elf. >> these insults co s tut m s c quick to my fudgy center. >> and kate mckin none plays him as an o possom like creature. >> my trusty little tail will get it. >> reporter: sure mitch mcconnell has been compared to a turtle for years. >> you carry your house around
on your back. >> reporter: at least he doesn't have the president on his back calling him names. >> twinkle toos magoo they call me. >> jeanne moos, cnn. >> i'm not elf on the shelf, i'm jeff sessions. >> new york. >> it's 7:00 eastern, 4:00 in the afternoon out west. you're live in the cnn newsroom. so glad you can join us, we begin with the president letting loose at the washington white tie affair. joking about white house chaos. jared kushner's troubles getting a security clearance and even his marriage to melania. the mood was funny and light hearted but there are also some things the president said that may have serious undertones, especially what he said about the ongoing nuclear threat from north korea. i won't rule out direct talks with kim