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premiers sunday night 9:00 p.m. eastern, here on cnn. that's it for me. thanks for watching. i'm wolf blitzer in "the situation room." erin burnett outfront starts right now. next, the white house backtracks, now insisting north korea meet concrete actions before president trump goes face-to-face with kim jong-un. is the historic meeting in jeopardy? and breaking news, sam nunberg former trump campaign adviser, testified before the robert mueller investigation 12 hours today. and stormy daniels trumps personal lawyer says he used home equity line to pay $130,000 to daniels and still expected to believe he wasn't expecting reimbursement. let's go outfront. and good evening i'm erin burnett. outfront tonight clean up at the white house. dramatic announcement between
president trump and kism get can does the reality tonight. remember trump bursting into the briefing room telling reporters expect major announcement regarding north korea. two hours later the president television producer sent the south korean security adviser out and announced president trump has accepted kim jong-un invitation to meet in person by may. even some of trump's own staff at the white house were caught off-guard by the announce. didn't know it was coming. this was just 24 hours ago. and within minutes the white house staff tried to pull it back. they started by backing off the may deadline with statement saying the date of the meeting was to be determined. try to take the may thing away. and sanders made it clear today the may thing off the table. >> what are the considerations that are under discussion for the location of this meeting between the president hand kim jong-un would take place?
>> as we said last night a time and place have not yet been determined. we'll make those announcements is available. >> is it possible that could not happen? >> there are a lot of things not possible. i'm not going to sit through every hypothetical in the world. >> if it's possible she said it didn't happen. then a meeting at all until north korea takes concrete actions, those are the words, towards denuclearization. here's sarah sanders. >> they made promises. we won't have the meeting take place until we see concrete actions that match the words and rhetoric of north korea. we accepted the invitation to talk based on them following through with concrete actions. this meeting won't take place without concrete actions. the president will not have the meeting without seeing concrete steps and concrete actions. >> okay. sarah sanders is starting to sound a lot like someone trump has been slamming repeatedly.
any time he gets a chance as a complete failure when it comes to north korea. so, now you've heard sarah sanders. listen to president obama, back in 2015 when he talked about his administration meeting with north korea. >> at the point where pyongyang says we are interested in seeing relief from sanctions and improved relations, and we are prepared to have a serious conversation about denukeization, i think it's fair to say we'll be right there at the table. >> denuclearization. okay, ryan nobles outfront at the white house. incredible statement. then a statement, then walk back, now the white house trying to, well, clarify again or reclarify. >> reporter: yeah, erin, confusion is a very appropriate
way to describe exactly what the last 24 hours have been like here at the white house. and certainly the impression during the press briefing by sarah sanders than last night about possibility of historic meeting between donald trump and kim jong-un. and even though sarah sanders seemed to put a number of qualifiers into the descriptors about this event, later white house officials told staff that we should know as of now the invitation has been extended and accepted in terms of a meeting. but exactly what are these caveats, what exactly is the administration looking for before they will set a date, a concrete date for this meeting to take place? perhaps we are getting some indication of that from the vice president mike pence speaking at event in cleveland. this is what he said, a meeting is being planned, but the world should know this, north korea should know this, all options are on the table, and we will
continue to apply maximum pressure until north korea abandons nuclear program once and for all. as you just pointed out, that isn't a whole lot different from the position that the obama administration before donald trump took office. so even though last night it seemed like history was about to be made, it's pretty clear here tonight, erin, that there is a whole number of things that have to happen before donald trump and kim jong-un meet face-to-face. >> right. thank you very much, ryan. and now also breaking at this moment a second message delivered to president trump from kim jong-un by south korea. will ripley outfront with the breaking details from seoul. will, what are you learning about this message? >> reporter: erin, i've just confirmed with south korea presidential office second office hasn't been publicly disclosed, in fact the contents of which kept secret but direct message from kim jong-un to president trump. we are told it was not a request for easing of sanctions or
compensation, but it was an attempt to build trust between the north korean leader and the president ahead of this summit, which the united states initially said or south korean now said by may, now that is all up in the air. but clearly this is part of kim jong-un to get inside the mind of donald trump to find a way to connect. obviously he got trump's attention with missile launches in the last year and had the opposite effect, instead of engaging with the united states, trump ratcheted up the pressure, now kim jong-un is trying diplomacy and hoping he can pull something off that the two previous leaders couldn't do, do some sort of deal to normalize relations with the united states. >> how far been to north korea so many times. familiar with the leadership there. what do they make of all this confusion from the white house, dates put out, president accepts it, then all of a you had is entaken off the table, then you have to have concrete steps to
denuclearization, which we just played on the face of it almost the same as barack obama position. what do they make of what's happened today from the trump administration? >> well, this really isn't anything new. i mean, remember when secretary of state tillerson said he would be willing to have talks about talks with the north koreans, then president trump tweeted don't waste your time. even now, the fact that the united states is saying concrete action needs to take place, that contradicts. so the north koreans this is the whole point here, they have had a hard time figuring out what this u.s. administration is all about. what they want. what they are willing to give. and whereas the north korean message has been pretty consistent. i've been chatting for three years with officials saying kim jong-un wanted to buildup his arson sal to the point where he sits down with the president of the united states with position of strength and leverage and not from a position of weakness. that's what he's hoping to achieve. but still not clear to them what the united states is going to bring. by the way, they still haven't told their own people, erin,
this meeting is happening. it hasn't been reported inside north korea. >> that's amazing. so the north korea people no report. so they are waiting and watching. that's fascinating. thank you very much will ripley. and now the top democrat on the house foreign affairs committee who has been to north korea twice. okay. is this meeting going to happen? >> your guess is as good as mine. i think i'm more confused now than when i first heard about it a few hours ago. >> so, okay, that is the will question. then what about whether you think it should. should this meeting happen? is this a good idea? >> look, i always thinki that talk something berth than not talking. i know it's something that north korean wanted for a long time. but if we can make head way, why not. what worries me is that for weeks and months we have been
seeing the state department leaving, diplomats are leaving. >> vacancies. >> people are just -- it's a whole mess. when you negotiate something of this magnitude, it usually starts with the diplomats. and they sort of come to agreement. and as the discussions keep going on, as the weeks and months pass, at the very end if you this i there is a good chance of a break through, then the big guns come. this is totally opposite. you have the president announce it right off the bat. now you hear his people denying it today. so i don't really know what to think. i just -- i know that we talked to the north koreans under both the bush and clinton administrations. and we were lied to. >> right. they promised before we'll shut down the main nuclear, stop the nuclear tests. and every time within a period of months to a year it has resumed and they have made progress during that time. >> right. >> so why would it be different this time, other than perhaps kim jong-un has already reached
a point of no return. he's already gotten to the point he needs to get? >> we hope we have slap down sanctions on north korea. i was one of the sponsors of the bill. we have passed several pieces of legislation. they are hurting financially. we know they are. so this might be a right time to do it. but certainly not the way we have been seeing it. the story keeps changing moments by the minute. >> whether they'll talk or not talk? >> yeah. and again i worry the diplomats, seasoned diplomats if they are all leaving in droefs, who will be the people to do the work. we still don't have an ambassador to south korea. lots of people who should be working along with the administration doing this. tillerson just very short time before president trump announced that he was going to meet with kim said that we were far away from that kind of thing. that we weren't even close to it. >> i want to ask you about this. because tillerson talked about talking to north korea before
and the president is like don't waste your time. cut him down on twitter publicly. and as you say hours before the announcement tillerson traveled in africa, announcement made when he was asleep, the u.s. is long ways from talks. words you used. so secretary of state didn't have any idea this was going on. and certainly people in the white house. sarah sanders says that's all a load of baloney. everyone that needed to know now. >> and secretary of state's deputy was in the room at the time these conversations went on. so it's absurd to pretend they weren't like part of this pros stes and haven't been part of this process all along. >> is she right? >> well, no, it's a matter of not being a matter of the process. what is the process? we keep hearing different things of the process. no one really knows what to believe. is there an agreement to talk? is there not an agreement to talk? are we going to talk if they meet certain conditions?
or just going to talk regardless? i mean, i'm just confused as anybody. what we are hearing from the white house today is totally different than what we heard yesterday. i was briefed today and i don't know what to think anymore. >> so the briefing didn't clarify for you, answer your questions? >> briefing was essentially the announcement of yesterday. what has since happened with the press conference and everything else, they seem to be changing their tune. >> and when the president says concrete actions towards denuclearization, do you think he understands how hard that is? >> when the reality comes you never fully can. not going to happen in north korea. >> when you have a rogue regime who has no respect for anything they say or do, it's likely that it won't happen. but the question now, i think, is what do they really agree to? and how are they going to now move to implement some of these things? again, i'm not against talking,
but you want to know that you are close to agreement. you don't want to have talks and then have them break down. that's where diplomacy comes in. and i worry there is not enough of that in this agreement. >> all right. thank you very much. of course what's also so fascinating about this, for everybody to know, south koreans came out and said this has been agreed to to happen by may. and white house has contradicted that, so not only what they said, what they were told and now made to look at least wrong. so that's a level to this that's pretty significant. and next, donald trump is wheeling and dealing his way to interview with the special counsel. will he do it? we have breaking new details tonight on those terms. plus breaking news, president trump's personal attorney reveals where he got the money to pay off stormy daniels. and nearly 200 troops now helping in the investigation of a poisoned russian double agent, nearly 200. now the name of another spy under scrutiny tonight.
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outfront now the white house reporter for the wall street journal, peter nicolas broke the story and former united states attorney and former associate independent counsel for the white house investigation. peter, you are breaking this story. what else are you hearing? >> what's happening is president's lawyers know that bob mueller wants and trying to see if there could be some concessions they can get in return. one would be to see if they can get a quick end to this investigation. maybe 60 days after the date of the interview. the other would be possibly limiting scope of the testimony. so the president wouldn't necessarily have to answer wide ranging questions that bob mueller might necessarily be interested in. but just answer some more general questions that might avoid a perjury trap, and focus on firing of james comey, see if the questioning limited as possible. >> right. and of course pretty impossible
to think that could fully happen considering they don't know what bob mueller is looking at president's personal finances or whatever else it could be in addition to obstruction of justice. do they though, peter from your reporting, believe that bob mueller will say, okay, sure, i'll agree to wrap up the investigation to you in 60 days. do tle really think that's realistic? >> well, they think that they have some leverage here, erin. and the leverage would be if bob mueller would soviet union the president, they could try to quash the subpoena, go to court and set in motion legal process, some estimates could take a year or two and end up umtly in the supreme court. so bob mueller wants an interview and quickly, maybe agree to some concessions. but talks to experts in this process who say look bob mueller is not necessarily going to agree, let the subject of interview dictate terms. he's got his own agenda. >> right. all right. so stay with me please. kim, if you were bob mueller,
would you agree to conditions like these, whether it's limiting the scope so severely or to ending the investigation into the president within 60 days of the interview? >> no. the second option to me borders on the absurd. there is virtually no way i can imagine that a prosecutor would agree to arbitrarily and artificially end an investigation on a particular date. now we saw this in the white water investigation but that was clinton was served with subpoena and agreed in exchange for volume 3/4ly appearing before the grand jury to some terms. but that was after a four year investigation. and the circumstances were really different. it's hard to imagine that the mueller team would be taking this seriously at this stage. >> and i guess that's the question. who has more leverage. kim, trump's team is trying to move the goal post here again. as is reporting you have this negotiation going on. but trump himself obviously when he's given the chance has tried
to act like i have no problem talking to mueller and don't need any preconditions. here he is just a few of the times. >> would you be willing to speak under oath to give your version of these events? >> 100%. i would love to do that and do that as as soon as possible. >> so here's the story? >> do you have a date set? >> no, i guess they are talking two or three weeks but i would love to do it. again, i have to say subject to my lawyers but i would love to do it. >> kim, do you think an interview ends up happening or not? >> i think that interview will end up happening, just because this is a very thorough team of investigators. now, that being said, we have a president that is used to or has a pattern of flouting the rule of law or not following norms. so no way to anticipate how much difficulty this process is going to take. we also have this looming spectrum of potentially firing mueller. we know that he suggested that to his white house counsel. and that would throw the country
into a make irrelevajor crisis. so that is something that they have to take into account. >> do they believe that an interview will happen? >> they are divided. there are some lawyers on trump team who really don't want to see an interview. i mean, they feel this would set a dangerous precedent also for future presidents. if trump agrees to interview, future presidents might be under that same standard. they understand they have a client that could be chatty and color between the lines. and that cob problematic in interview because that could perhaps present perjury problems. mueller has shown he is willing to bring perjury charges. but others on the trump team more silent about prospects of interview and willing to do it and think it's one way to shut down, close this investigation out early. if an interview with trump is
missing piece in the puzzle, why not provide it, give mueller what he wants, then have him move away from trump. >> that's of course been their hope. whether that happens or not. kim, today, there was a lot going on in mueller land. former campaign aide nunberg spent six hours testifying before grand jury. he said he would do no such things. it would take 90 hours. it didn't. just took six. did not speak to the media afterwards. was mueller flawed to have nunberg there? or did he make it harder for himself after the debacle of earlier this week? >> well, what nunberg did earlier this week was rather unprecedented. and i think most people watching understood that it was uncomfortable at best. so it's hard to say that it made it harder for mueller. they know what they are doing. and they have a wide and broad investigation. and i think it's important to keep in mind with respect to the president as well that mueller has the cards here.
mueller has the power of the subpoena behind him. and the grand jury. and so even president trump doesn't have a lot of cards to play in terms of stopping that. sure, he can go to court. but i'm also a constitutional law professor there isn't an argument listen that you can't put a president before a grand jury for any reason. >> thank you very much. i appreciate your time. next trump's personal attorney. we have a big development tonight has used his home equity line put his home on the line literally for stormy daniels. took $130,000 from heloc to pay off the adult film star. why would he go to such great lengths? unless someone was paying him back. and then the me president. >> to what do you owe this recent openness to talk? >> me. i'm just worried about the house and taking care of the boys.
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evidence showing personal lawyer was using trump organization email account to arrange $130,000 payoff to keep stormy daniels clients. until now michael cohen says he did it himself. and that the president or the trump organization were not involved. it's thought the payment was to keep stormy daniels from talking in the days before the election about allegations she had a sexu sexual affair with trump. stormy daniels attorney had this to say. >> because we'll obtain documents and testimony to show i am highly confident at all times trump knew what was going on. >> email stream shows that it was paid into the account forwarded to the lawyer as time that the proof was coming. >> when we entered the room, he grabbed each of us titlely in a hug and kissed each one of us
without asking permission. >> the scandal surrounding the hush money signed by stormy daniels has bizarrely widened to include another porn star. just a month before the 2016 presidential election, drake accused then donald trump candidate of sexual harassment at the same lake tahoe golf tournament where they both met and took this photo. at the time trump spokesperson fired back says mr. trump does not know this person or remember this person and would have no interest in every knowing her. but drake has pictures of her and trump showing they at least met. and drake's legal name, angel ryan is listed on the nondisparagement agreement and the alleged sexual relationship
with team which his team has denied. adult film ac rest elana evans was also in tahoe in 2006. >> how do you know they actually met in 2006. >> stormy daniels told me that day that i saw her in tahoe. it was part of her story when donald came to the booth jessica ran up to him gushing all over her, excited to see him. and that he was nice to her. but said that he wanted to meet stormy daniels and pointed right at her. >> as for what a lana evens has seen as far as any kind of emails or text or photos, she hasn't she hasn't seen any herself. but wait until stormy is able to tell her story. one more thing, when it comes to the emails sent by michael cohen from the trump organization, he says that he sends emails from that email account to lots of different people including family and friends. and he talked about the fact that he had already told everyone that he had paid from
his own money into stormy daniels attorney account. those were his words. back to you, erin. >> thank you very much sarah. now editor in chief of the federal election commission. all right, michael cohen personal lawyer for the president who was personal lawyer for a long time says he used home equity line to pay off stormy daniels. do you believe someone would do that, go to their home equity to do it without expecting reimbursement? >> who among us erin has not taken out a loan to pay off stripper before an election? totally normal. and if you are not getting worried about getting paid back, why would you dip into your equity line? this is absurd. payoff days before the election to shush up someone.
he was expecting it and is owed it. >> and so, larry, what's your take on this? now he's saying it's a home equity line? pretty easy to find out that he used that home equity line, whether he was reimbursed or not? or is it easier than it seems to hide say in the form of bearing the pay back in something like a bonus? >> he could bury it. but if he wants to prove that he used the home equity line. he can do that. he can provide documentation and show where the money came from. but i agree with john. absolutely. this is kind of ridiculous story at this point. and it is also incredibly hard to believe that the president's lawyer and been business lawyer, personal lawyer, would do all of this without telling the president, without the president's knowledge. and if he did do it without the president's knowledge he hassett iks issues without telling his client. >> but isn't that a disbarable thing in new york state, actually? ? >> yeah.
>> without telling the client. >> lawyers are obligation to tell clients fg they do on behalf of their client. he prepared an nda nondisclosure agreement supposed to be signed by trump and supposed to be watching out for trump's interests and yet expecting us to believe trump didn't know anything about it? and took money out of his home equity line to pay stormy daniels without telling trump, it doesn't fly? >> it does seem absurd. we learned michael cohen used the trump communication email to communicate with stormy daniels lawyer to pay off. he says i use that for other things. does that matter? or was this an illegal campaign contribution? that's why the story matters whether it was a violation of the law, a crime. >> correct. and the question about whether it's an illegal campaign contribution, i think it is, really revolves around one point. why did they do this?
did they do this because it was right before the election and afraid this would hurt the election campaign, and therefore they paid the money to stop her from hurting the election campaign? now, the idea at this point that about the email account, at its worst for them, what it means is the trump organization may have been involved in this, was he doing this on trump organization time, then they may have made an illegal contribution. but taking at word that they used it for other things, shouldn't be that significant. it is significant in another way. which is we are dealing with a family business. and it's an insular business and use of the trump organization email for personal business, the idea that he's being represented by a lawyer right now, that did work for the trump campaign. all of this shows really insular family business. and from everything we understand the way trump runs, and impossible to believe he doesn't know what's going on something this important. so i think the email is important in terms of questions about what the organization involvement was. but also is evidence of just how
they work at the trump organization. >> it certainly defies disbelief the president wouldn't know. some of them are damming. such as this happened so much time he didn't know. that's not where they want this to go. the press secretary sarah sanders is face ago lot of questions. and she has dodged every time by saying they have addressed it extensively. here she is. >> did president trump win? did president trump after that photo see stormy daniels? did he text? email? do you have any other information? >> i don't. we've addressed this extensively. and i don't have anything else to add. >> he said from the podium you acknowledge the president to follow up on april's question knows about the arbitration involving stormy daniels? so does he remember speaking to his lawyer about that or meeting stormy daniels? >> i've addressed this extensively. >> i don't have anything else to add. >> of course they have not addressed this. in fact barely addressing this
at all except for talk to the lawyers. and add mitd there was arbitration between trump and daniels which is admitting something to arbitrate about. and some kind of a connection between the two. >> can the white house get away with ignoring this is it. >> look, sarah sanders is trying 20 play a bad hand as best as she can. but the fact she's saying we have addressed it extensively. the same language. this is the go too talking points. not denying t not denying it. >> no. >> but also trying to sort of classic tool. this is old news. may not be fake news. can't say that. but they can say it's old news. and therefore pretend it's not an issue. but it's not going to go away. and more uncomfortable facts going to emerge. >> of course, stormy daniels suit moves ahead, there is text, emails, nondisclosure thrown out, pictures, god forbid. thank you both very much. in the next hour cnn attorney for stormy daniels will join anderson discuss these new
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tonight president trump, the me president. >> do you believe that north korea recent willingness to talk is sincere, or is it an effort to buy time for their nuclear program, and to what do you owe this recent openness to talk? >> me. no, i think that -- nobody got that. >> okay. and he also says he alone is responsible for a lot of good things. it's not new for him. here he is on the economy, the deficit, and what of course he calls the rigged system. >> i'm the only one, believe me, i know them all, i'm the only one that knows how to fix it. nobody knows the system better than me, which is why i alone can fix it. >> outfront now former candidate for governor, national affairs correspondent joan walsh. thanks to both. joan, you are closer so gets the
first question. he loves the words i and me. but all jokes aside, because no matter what your political persuasion, have you to laugh when you hear someone talk about that. could he be the savior here? >> he could. let me say republican, democrat, if these two countries are talking farther away from war, this is a good thing. i root for this initiative. however, it is very early to give him credit for anything. i mean, it's true presidents going back to bill clinton have gone from tying to negotiate tougher sanctions, obama had tougher sanctions before he left office, and trump did even more sanctions. i'm not really to give him credit. if he brokers a deal, you'll have me back and he alone will fix it. but way too early for that.
>> you have to broker one and give them time. >> cheated every time. >> he does lufrs the words i and me. >> you know what, i'm thinking of the godfather. and there was a great few lines in there. first of all, keep your friends close, and enemies closer, that's what we are doing here. but fray dough, remember he said i'm smart, i can do things, that's where he's leading to here. he can get it done, watch me, i can try and do it. didn't end well for frado, by the way. >> that's a terrible analogy. that's something i might say. >> but i do think, look, as joan mentioned, there has been so many failures by conventional ways, that the country has stepped forward to try to deal with north korea. clinton failed. bush failed. obama failed for all different reasons. access of oils, ol iive branche.
i think kim jong-un thinks that this guy, trump is kaiser thcra he is. i don't know what to get with this country. i might as well sit down and talk. >> we'll see if that happens. to make it happen, we don't have an ambassador to south korea. we don't have the kinds of people -- >> trump doesn't care because he wouldn't let the guy or gal do anything anyway. he put this right at the top. >> and he picked someone who he then rejected because the do you was too much into negotiation. he wanted to talk. he thought it was time to talk. and so, you know, he got put out on an ice flow. this is the thing, he hasn't been able to build the policy strength and personal strength, the knowledge to carry through yet. maybe he'll surprise me. i would love to be surprised. >> all right. so the president has just tweeted about north korea, which
he's done a few times today. this one coming out now. he says the deal with north korea is very much in the making and will if cleated a very good one for the world. time and place to be determined. okay. let's keep that up for a second. >> that's interesting. >> rob, here's the thing. you want talks and even congressmanening congressman engel who was here earlier says you want talks. what's interesting about this is how much it sounds like obama. deal in the making. we'll work on it. if it's completed it will be a good one. time and place to be determined. everybody comes in a sense from the same place on this. >> right. >> but conventionally, as i said, obama had eight years and didn't do anything. and kim jong-un just played us like a fiddle. played clinton, bush and obama, right. and eventually -- >> well, from the father to the son. >> that's what i meant. we started with we have nothing. then they started testing. getting sanctions. you know, everyone was screaming
at each other. then all of a you had is enthis -- all of a sudden they have the bomb now. so i think for the president to sit down with him is a good thing. but i think the chaos in this respect is also working to this advantage. >> so the president said things before i went to ivy league school. is it easily laughed off is actually allowing him to succeed where others have failed? because people don't take him seriously. >> the bar is low. >> the bar is very low. >> how can i take him seriously? >> then maybe you under estimate? >> come on, the three of us can agree, the truly smart people we know don't go around saying i'm the smartest. >> that's true. >> that kind of disqualifies him. i would also point out that tweet is a little bit again backtracking. we saw sarah sanders backtrack and say they are going to be conditions.
there are going to be -- we want to see concrete action. he said time and place tbd. not may anymore. sarah sanders said no maybe it's not may. now may is not in the tweet. >> now time and place to be determined continuing to back off at least what he authorized or what he told the south korean 24 hours ago. thank you both very much. >> thank you. >> and next the poison russian spy and his daughter are alive cleani clinging to life. but the mystery is developing. and b11 years ago today, vanished in iran. costill be alive?
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